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They Have Done the UNTHINKABLE... (The Rise of James Madison Football) 

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James Madison football has done the unthinkable this season. As a team transitioning from the FCS level to the FBS level, the Dukes appeared in the AP top 25 after starting the season 5-0. They beat Appalachian State on the road this season and are sitting at 7-3 with a 5-2 record in the Sun Belt. They should be playing for a spot in the Sun Belt title game this weekend against Coastal Carolina and should be a lock for a Bowl game. Yet, they may not get the opportunity to play in either game no matter the results which may open the door for those in power to make a push for a rule change. But how did James Madison, a team that was playing at the FCS level last season, shock the world and why does the NCAA need to change its rules? Stay tuned to find out.
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Комментарии : 71   
@EmbracetheGrind
@EmbracetheGrind Год назад
Should the NCAA change the transition rules?
@Blaze-cz1eu
@Blaze-cz1eu Год назад
yes definitely because JMU did so good this year and the app state come back was unbelievable to watch as a fan!
@oddoperator3524
@oddoperator3524 Год назад
Yes it should not even exist
@domtom9594
@domtom9594 Год назад
I would say 1 year translation period so every deal and etc is done.
@pjposton5001
@pjposton5001 Год назад
Of course. It's stupid to punish a program for improving. I have supported JMU for many years and I know I'm biased, but this is a stupid rule.
@titansboytc
@titansboytc Год назад
Yes
@williammcconnell8428
@williammcconnell8428 Год назад
And now that JMU has even done another impossibility (beating the snot out of Coastal Carolina and taking the 1st place spot in their division of the SunBelt) just adds another reason why they should be allowed in the conference playoff. How do you explain why a team has played and finished this way is denied the chance to go further?
@iredi2214
@iredi2214 Год назад
In Marshall's first season in the FBS in 1997, we won the MAC Title and played Ole Miss in the Motor City Bowl. Going 10-3 on the season. The rule was changed after this. I hate it. I tip my hat to JMU.
@davidr5658
@davidr5658 Год назад
The "Marshall Rule" needs to go with the new transfer rules now in place.
@iredi2214
@iredi2214 Год назад
@@davidr5658 Facts
@j.o.6271
@j.o.6271 Год назад
Much rather see JMU in a bowl game over a 5 win team. Good TV/ good story lines
@haydenhorton9036
@haydenhorton9036 Год назад
They should change it because st Thomas the division 3 school the moved up to fcs finished 8-1 and didn’t get a chance to go to the playoffs
@essextaylor
@essextaylor Год назад
Yeah, at least maybe make a rule where if a transitioning team wins their conference they get a playoff spot due to the autobid, but if they don't win conf then they aren't eligible for an at large bid since that's more subjective. I just don't understand an outright champ of an autobid conf being left out.
@seltzerwater9174
@seltzerwater9174 Год назад
to continue with the sunbelt discussion, it would be interesting to see a video covering south alabamas season. went from a previous best regular season record of 6-6 to currently 9-2 with 10-2 being a real possibility. to put things in perspective, they had 9 wins total for 2020 and 2021
@therealnathnath154
@therealnathnath154 Год назад
Almost beat UCLA on the road too. SAU is i think the best example of a ‘typical’ move-up, not immediately competing nor a consistent laughing stock. A decade passes and now they’re on-level with their conference. Clearly there’s not an inherent advantage or disadvantage post-move-up, so a special ruleset seems redundant. To deny them the FCS playoff rights in ‘stage1’ of the transition seems more than enough.
@alaskanyeti907
@alaskanyeti907 Год назад
If you're moving down, then the rule makes sense. But if you're moving up, it makes zero sense at all, considering that on paper that school would be at a major disadvantage.
@NewLeaf88
@NewLeaf88 11 месяцев назад
JMU Alumni here, Go Duuuuuuuukes! BEAT UVA!
@timarrington2245
@timarrington2245 Год назад
James Madison will go straight up
@JmacJSGuru
@JmacJSGuru 8 месяцев назад
And now we’re sitting 9-0 as of Nov 4 2023 and ranked 21 in the AP poll. This rule needs to change
@Ramen_Hibachi
@Ramen_Hibachi Год назад
I wish North Dakota State would join the Mountain West
@MrGA555
@MrGA555 Год назад
They should have made the jump LONG ago
@lordhegamonster6931
@lordhegamonster6931 Год назад
NDSU would rather be a big fish in a small pond, unfortunately.. 😢
@essextaylor
@essextaylor Год назад
I think the rest of the FCS has wanted that for awhile too 😂
@robserrano8971
@robserrano8971 Год назад
NCAA should use REGULATIONS to improve college football in all divisions.
@williamsewell6094
@williamsewell6094 Год назад
Montana bout to clap NDSU in the playoffs
@austin_l
@austin_l Год назад
Marshall University's first year back in 1A (now fbs) they Won the MAC and played Ole Miss in a bowl game. I don't know if their situation was different or not. They were the first team I knew of making the jump. They were a 1A school that dropped to 1AA for about 12 seasons or so and dominated after about a decade of not being competitive after the plane crash.
@davidr5658
@davidr5658 Год назад
That Marshall team loaded up on transfers (such as Randy Moss) immediately before releveling. At the time, transfer rules between IA and IAA were less restrictive then within the IA. The other members of the MAC felt that gave Marshall an unfair advantage. The result was that the NCAA created the very rule discussed here limiting JMU now, as well as App and Ga Southern in their first FBS year. Now that transfer rules have changed, the "Marshall Rule" as it is informally known is out dated and should be dropped.
@Taubull422
@Taubull422 Год назад
I live in the DC area. JMU wasn't suppose to play in the SBC until 2024 & continue to play FCS with no playoffs & championship game however the state of Virginia stepped in and overturned the decision so JMU could began SBC play this year. I still believe they're not allowed to compete in bowl & Championship games until 23-24 season.
@michaelperriccio4721
@michaelperriccio4721 Год назад
Great work. "The Dukes are Deserving"
@Clintondmb
@Clintondmb 8 месяцев назад
Got denied again this year. Maybe enough pressure and attention will change things this season.
@daleshipman7139
@daleshipman7139 Год назад
The "Dukes" definiteyl are the Best team in the Sunbelt.
@tallowatt34
@tallowatt34 Год назад
If you appear in the top 25 at anytime in the year then you should be eligible for that year. If not the ban continues to its conclusion
@cripple9860
@cripple9860 10 месяцев назад
And NCAA denied their application to make the transition period just 1 year instead of 2 years... crazy
@RIPJimmyA7X
@RIPJimmyA7X Год назад
Even though we got our asses kicked I'm glad we got one last playoff matchup with them before they moved up. I knew they were going to win 8+ games their first season at the fbs level, they haven't been fcs talent wise in about 7 years
@RFMaster6
@RFMaster6 Год назад
They knew the rules when they went into the season. Georgia Southern ran the conference table in 2014, won the conference as a 2nd year reclassification school. Still, didn't go bowling until 2015. You don't get to change the rules because suddenly your school is the one.
@GitCuppaJoe
@GitCuppaJoe Год назад
The only thing that is good in Georgia is the peaches.
@v10mclaren
@v10mclaren Год назад
And the ncaa denied a waiver for a ‘23 post season….
@penguinskits3698
@penguinskits3698 Год назад
High school 2.0 football for me
@Supernova2464
@Supernova2464 Год назад
I figure bowl organizers wouldn’t look to a team that played half its games against FCS opponents, I guess what I’m saying is, isn’t this a self correcting problem? After just because you have 6 wins doesn’t mean you make a bowl game. IDK maybe I’m talking out my rear
@CDeeez94
@CDeeez94 Год назад
I'm a Troy fan and holy moly do I think James Madison got robbed. They definitely deserved to play us in the Sunbelt Championship and it definitely would have been a much better game had they been given the chance.
@silvericiclez
@silvericiclez Год назад
go dukessss
@lowercherty
@lowercherty Год назад
One way to avoid NDSU, bail out to FBS.
@NukaCola6962
@NukaCola6962 Год назад
Wait a decade and they will be capable of hanging around alabama, ohio state and Georgia
@soa1
@soa1 Год назад
This bs rule hurts recruiting as player want to play for post season. The rule doesn't make sense s if u win ur conference then u should rep ur conference. It's doing more harm then good.
@toomanygeebs
@toomanygeebs Год назад
im in my last semester at Jmu and this shit sucks cuz i know damn well next season we may not have a winning record... we losing a lot of players like our QB
@InterUnited
@InterUnited Год назад
ditto and were getting mccloud... he might be solid under cignetti
@evangeffner1194
@evangeffner1194 Год назад
They absolutely destroyed unc btw…they were easily the best sunbelt team
@j.thompson9345
@j.thompson9345 Год назад
That rule is stupid. If you move up from D3 to D1 or FCS to FBS, shouldn’t you technically be at a disadvantage? Especially from a depth standpoint. The NCAA should have committees at every level to evaluate each program individually. Then determine if the program would be immediately eligible for championships, bowl games, etc. This stupid rule sucks for programs such as Georgia Southern (No bowl appearance), App State (No bowl appearance), JMU (No bowl or championship appearance) Bellarmine (No Tournament appearance), etc. who all we’re competitive or won their conference in year one. That Georgia Southern team in 2014 could’ve went 11-1 but lost close games against NC State 24-23 and Georgia Tech 42-38. And would’ve been left out of post season play due to the rule. Complete joke. If they can compete immediately, don’t punish them. Evaluate the entire program from the time they submit their applications to move up, to right before the CFP rankings are released.
@robserrano8971
@robserrano8971 Год назад
The bug schools control everything unfortunately
@christophermilner1808
@christophermilner1808 Год назад
That's a stupid rule. They moved up, not down.
@thomastrain7311
@thomastrain7311 10 месяцев назад
Really dumb rule. So stupid. JMU plays good football every year. Go hokies!
@HEC892
@HEC892 Год назад
forget this team they absolutely sold the two weeks I wagered on them! haha
@jasonsire3823
@jasonsire3823 Год назад
They lost to 3 and 5 team Georgia southern thats probably why they did not make it.
@InterUnited
@InterUnited Год назад
That ga southern since went 6-6 and made a bowl game, what are you saying lol
@jasonsire3823
@jasonsire3823 Год назад
@@InterUnited just saying the reason JMU probably didn't make it into the playoffs was that loss, not saying they're a bad team they're very good team
@InterUnited
@InterUnited Год назад
@@jasonsire3823 woah woah no one is arguing they should be in CFP playoffs lol that would be insane, were saying they should make a bowl game, which all other cfb teams do when they win 6 games
@jasonsire3823
@jasonsire3823 Год назад
@@InterUnited ahh gotcha I took that wrong then my bad
@jamesjarrettt3995
@jamesjarrettt3995 Год назад
Done the unthinkable ???? What ? Won a game ?
@brianwilliams6865
@brianwilliams6865 Год назад
They joined the top 25 AP poll and won the conference in their first year. Thats never happened before.
@campegriles7125
@campegriles7125 Год назад
They destroyed teams that they weren’t expected to beat…
@campegriles7125
@campegriles7125 Год назад
Example… ranked 23 coastal Carolina who they beat by 40…
@vultorgetstoscore6976
@vultorgetstoscore6976 Год назад
you must not know much about college football, so why even comment on a topic you don’t know about ?
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