They're changing the townies in The Sims 4?! 

They could give Johnny an angry sentiment with his parents! Would be a cool scenario to either make up with his parents or not as well. Like become mortal enemies with his parents.

absolutely iconic of mortimer to just throw on sunglasses for hot weather and gloves for cold

i like that they are updating the townies, i just wished bella would have kept her iconic dress

Age up Alexander, then look at him from the side. They did him dirty. You'd think after 8 years of this game they'd know that toddlers and children don't look anything like their adult form. There's even a CAS "toddler to adult" challenge because of this.

My only complaints about the Goth Update are that Bella is no longer in her Signature Red dress, Alexander ages up poorly and while I appreciate that Bella and Cassandra have darker skin tones, they look a bit ashy

I’m so glad Cassandra got new hair and looks like a normal teen now

Wouldn't be a GREAT idea to do the same thing with the houses too??

If they had given the townies lore from the get go this wouldn’t be so time consuming for them 😅

Okay, I’m from Alaska and the moodlet lamp is like Happy Lights! In places that don’t get a lot of sun, happy lights give you UV rays that simulates sunlight to produce natural Vitamin D that you’re probably lacking in higher latitudes. So this tiny detail is actually so cool and realistic!

The irony is the problem with Bella was that her skintone was not warm enough and they actually made it cooler. darker yes, but cooler. Bella is meant to be Mediterranean with a warm olive tone, they did not meet this expectation and instead it comes across as ashy (which given their track record with skin tones is very disappointing) ESPECIALLY since they got this feedback of her looking ashy when they revealed the concept art questionable paint over that people were already not vibing with as she was not recognisable as Bella!

They did Alexander dirty! He’s spot on as a kid but as a teen he’s a completely different sim!

Despite all of our disagreements, we can all agree they did Alexander dirty.

Sentiments are a great way to add lore that they should take advantage of!! Like johnny zest and the Landgraabs could have that festering grudge sentiment. I really hope they use their own mechanics to bring these townies to (better) life!

I am also annoyed that they did not add likes and dislikes. I also thought that Cassandras black and grey wardrobe was a rebellion against her Mom and her obsession with red. So it seems weird to me that she now suddenly also dresses in red and black. I also hoped that they would give the family some more skills and maybe relationships. That was a reach goal but it seems odd to me that the NPC have such random skills that make no sense to me. Bella should have some parenting skill if you have Parenthood and Mortimer is supposed to be a writer but no writing skill if I remember correctly. Makes no sense for someone this established. We are not allowed to start a game playing with the NPCs anyway so why not give them a better fuller backstory with real careers and skills. It would be funny to me if the Goth household had already a maid service and if I started playing with them it would just show up.

im still feeling a little 50/50 on the “updating townies” idea, it could be a good thing but ill still miss the old charm that a lot of the original townies bring. ill admit that bella goth got yassified like hell and it came out amazing, but it’ll be surreal seeing the familiar old faces in the sims have complete wardrobe makeovers.

I like how Kayla is happy about "iconic hair of Bella" being kept for formal wear.... When it is not THE hair. 😅

9:14 the issue with the lamp’s “lighting” is that it isn’t actually lighting. It’s a translucent image on a flat plane that’s locked to the angle of the camera, but it cuts through the floor which is why it looks like it stops so suddenly.

Even if they dont go and revamp all of the townies, i would love a fashion update. 2014 fashion feels so outdated already, specially on townies like the laandgrabs and the calientes, that are supposed to be fashionable. Like the Calientes are supposed to be these pretty, young ladies and i feel it would make sense for their outfits to reflect that in 2022 context. The landgraabs are a rich family and i would love their clothes to reflect that too, like Nancy could definetely feel the kind of woman who shows her wealth through her straight-off-the-runway clothes. I thnk that would be pretty nice.

Old Bella: in her late 20’s New Bella: in her mid 40’s

I love their new appearances and make up but I prefer their old outfits tbh

You know now that you mention it, this whole thing is kind of odd. Cause if you were just going to add some new outfits and skin tones you probably didn't need a year to roll out one family. Appreciate you doing it though. Also I started playing the Sims when the pandemic hit so I had no idea seasons only came out in 2018????? Seems like that should've been one of the first expansion packs.

This video is EXACTLY a year when we got likes and dislikes!!! When Kayla said “over a year” I was like, there’s no way, feels like yesterday. I have no concept of time anymore, everything is a blur.

I want changes and genuine improvements that aren’t skin deep… Give us lore, character, gameplay, complex personalities/desires, etc. not just a clothing change and poor makeovers

I was playing Sims yesterday and was astonished when Mortimer had no mustache!! I don't even like mustaches in Sims but it's iconic for him

I hope they remake the landgraab and zest households and make it so they're actully related in the family tree

OMG THIS IS SO EXCITING! I am so excited that they are doing stuff to the base game for players that can’t get the packs or don’t want to spend money on the game

Ngl I kinda liked the fact that Alexander’s eyebrows didnt used to match. I liked the fan theory that I saw once where someone said it was like the Goths had had him dye his hair black to match the rest of them haha. But all laughs aside I am super stoked that even one family of townies got refreshed :)

i hope eliza and bob are updated!! i want their relationship to actually reflect their lore, and i think it’d be great for eliza to start out being pregnant and not know! how does their relationship change if iggy arrived unexpectedly? i feel like it writes itself, i don’t know why it wasn’t already like that

imo just because content is free doesn’t excuse it being poorly made, personally id rather have no free table than a free table that they either half-assed, or weren’t given the time to finish properly

Feels a wee bit awkward only doing one household at a time though, are they trying to update us into submission? 😂

I like Cassie’s new look. But I actually prefer Alex’s OG base look, especially when he ages up.

If I was Morty, I’d want a paternity test the minute that kid aged up, lol

New lore and appearances will be interesting but this is huge!

Bella’s new hair for her new formal wear *isn’t* her original hair from before, Simsie. Lol!

Could probably use that new moodlet light for Stanley when you're trying to make money and he's just uncomfy!

I remember the Goths in the sims 2 they are still my top fav townies.

I know they already have the Calientes planned for a refresh, but I REALLY hope they change Liberty’s skin tone soon because they whitewashed the hell out of her compared to her MySims counterpart (+ arguably Yuki too, although they only really share the name 🤷🏽‍♀️

I like the idea of them refreshing the townies, but if they refresh ALL of them, I wouldn't like that. People like Nancy and Eliza are just to iconic to change.

oh the moodlit lamp looks just like the sun lamp I use for my SADS in winter! I like that it gives off a cheerful moodlet.

Kayla has been in the sun lately! Her freckles are so cute!!

The new chair will go really well with the dream home decorator stuff.

I just wish they hadn't made Bella look older without actually aging her up from young adult to adult. And her iconic mini red dress :(

There was nothing wrong with Bella's old dress, Mortimers outfit too

Personally I've been with the TS4 Goth Family since before ghosts or pools were even in the game. It's been about 8 years at this point. I'm ready for something new and I actually like their take on Bella in a lotta aspects. I don't think I've ever seen a realistic take on her like this. She might not wear the dress she had on when Cassandra was still a child, but she's definitely got it locked up somewhere safe. Body wise, I know my own mom had reduction a while after having 2 kids. Bella to me has always felt like a natural beauty rather than someone who'd get a lotta work done. I think that fits Nancy Landgraab way more. Tbh I think Mortimer got the worst outfit. The old one made him look like he lives in a cold haunted mansion. Very formal, but kinda comfy. But now he looks real plain. He definitely stands out, but he looks like he part of Mobwives and his winterwear makes me think "oh he's definitely gonna murder his wife". The old family are still in the game. The Gallery especially wouldn't let them disappear. It's a bit of a pill to swallow knowing that brand new player now may be unfamiliar with the Bella we've basically grown up on, but it's ok. Things change, new ideas are thrown in. It'd be impossible for them to please everyone.

I'm happy that you brought up what they actually said about the townie makeover, because I remembered they mentioned it, but forgot how detailed they told it would be. I would not have realized how meh this update was compared to what was promised without you pointing it out!

Another thing u would like if they updated the sims again would be for like Johnny zest to have like a red bar relationship with his parents instead of like not knowing them

I prefer them now and I think the Caliente's need a refresh. I hope they don't make Don uglier. However, I would prefer EA added more options in CAS like making lower noses, bigger foreheads, more eyes, lips, cheeks, etc. Also, individual bios and create a style. The skin tones and the likes and dislikes updates received fandom's great reactions that are evidence CAS requires more options to be added.

Still miss Bella’s iconic dress and hair. I do like the skin tone change tho. It fits her original design better. And Morty looks good too. Cass didn’t change too much, but my gosh Alexander looks so bad in comparison-

The sdx drp furniture could be great for a kid's hangout place. Like cafe where parents can have a cup and lots of toys and activities for the children (toddlers). Those things exist irl so it might be cute.

Also, I saw in the start up menu they have added East Asian facial features

I LOVE that they're updating townies! Although I'm a little annoyed about the timing since I just caved and updated the Goths for myself literally last week. As far as the not-bump-mapped table, is it likely done that way on purpose to reduce the polygon count? I learned from lilsimsie videos that part of the reason some of the EA-made houses are so terrible is because they test them to run on minimum-spec computers, so I would think the new table has a simplified mesh for the same reason? I'm also intrigued by this idea that they've somehow managed to do Alexander dirtier than they did before. Old Alexander looked ABSURD as an adult, and I wouldn't have thought they could make that worse. Half of me wants to go age him up and see, the other half wonders if I would rather not know. Thanks for the existential crisis, RU-vid comments section!

I don't know how I feel about this. Obviously the acknowledging of the white washing and changing that is a good thing, but it feels like they made them too different from how they were before, especially Alexander. Like, that's a whole different sim

I love Casandra but she's a little bit darker than Bella and personally when I played the sims 2 Casandra with her hair down and without glasses is literally like Bella, even tho, I like her but it's a little bit weird, and PLEASE SIMS TEAM give her proper ponytails :'((((

I would love them to add a lot more lore, I would even like to see things like a couple dead relaitve in the tree, like maybe some people that are ALREADY ghosts in the game, or just to see in the family tree some past ancestors of people

I update my townies anyway. For example, I use the Eco Lifestyle pack to update Moira Fyres because it seems to fit her much better than her given outfits. I am going to have to save some of the townies before they change them to something I don't like.

Also lore wise- I'd love to see Johnny Zest have like 1-2 class credits in university showing that he dropped out.

I love how you miss her iconic hair and "found" it in formal wear, even tho that is NOT her former hairstyle ... so it couldnt have been that iconic xD

I wish they could remember their relatives after they move out.

I'm just going to save the Goths to my library in one of my old saves, and every new save, replace these new ones with the old.

Hi Simsie, I just wanted to say thank you for putting captions on your video's. I find it helps me better understand videos and I find I remember more information that way. Thank you so much :)

The townies really need an update, so I´m happy that they finally get around to that. Imagine with all of the talk about werewolves, they come out with a pack with Evil unicorns. Hehe, that would be sweet.

i love how the only cc kayla has is peppa pig suit and that green blob thing from hotel transylvania

I don't know how I feel about this honestly... Other than fixing the whitewashing, that's a definitive positive. But other than that I'm not sure how much I like this. Not that any of it is bad, I just don't do well with change, even in video games lol

I wish that they updated all the townies in one update, or at least by world. I hate having to update every time I open my game. Maybe that's just because of my slow internet. BUT IM SO EXCITED IF FOR ANY WEREWOLVES. It gets in so well with sims AND I can finally have my Twilight dreams come true

My headcanon: Johnny Zest is either Nancy's little brother, or he's her cousin via the other Landgraabs referenced across the rest of the game.

simsie, alexander goth was not supposed to have dark skin tone but the same as mortimer, just like TS2. bella and cassandra are okay though

For Bella's formal hair, it's not the old one it's a different one

As someone who has only ever played the sims 4, this freaks me out… I’d love for them to add lore but they COMPLETELY changed Cassandra and Alexander. I will definitely go to the gallery and change them back everytime I play with them…

I have no clue what Cassandra goth was supposed to be, but if she was supposed to be a nerd then her clothes wouldn't have to be "trendy". Not all Sims have to be trendy, but for some reason they all end up being fashionistas.

bella and cassandra look ashy and whoever did alexander paid no attention to the way he looks aged up, his features are exaggerated and he doesn’t look related to the family.

You can use that lamp when they are mourning

They probably waited this long because TS4 is coming to an end and they just have more time for it now. Also the likes/dislikes...they probably left them blank so WE can give them instead of having them already being there.

love that they look more natural now (not bella's body but just the way they all are dressed)

I never play with townies, so had no idea that Johnny Zest was related to the Landgrabs (and I've been playing since Sims 1)!

Unpopular Opinion: I LOVE the new Goth family update. I kept seeing people on Twitter complain about it and saying that all they needed was a skin-tone update but really, the styling and makeup of the Goths looked outdated. Also I feel like if the team just updated the skin tones and nothing else, people would still find something to complain about anyways, so you really can’t please everyone. And yes, Alexander looks unhinged when aged up but again people are acting like that can’t be fixed in CAS. Don’t want this to turn into a think-piece, but I love this game and happy that the sims team are bringing really good updates lately.

6.21 I actually know people who look like that Kayla. Granted they do have really bad anxiety and body issues. But they still have that body type

Hello! I would like to thank Kayla and all of you for donating to St.Jude THANK YOUUU!

That line on the lamp happens on all the stuff that has like a glowing aura. The aura collides with the surface and it gets cut off.

Thanks for always updating us Simsie 🥰 I wouldn’t know anything new about the game if it wasn’t for you

not me waiting for her to see what alexander looks like aged up and then she doesn't

Everyone is so excited but the Goths have been dead in my game for generations now 😂

I'm not familiar with modelling for games but as a (student 3d artist for 3d animation movies, I do know the quality is often less demanding. If someone's curious, here are some small technical humble fact: The round table being angular is how you model objects at first and then you build up the details (aka add more polygons) and finally you smooth the object or part of it if needed (like when you need something to look round....) Also, the bumps maps seems to be replaced by the normal maps, that has more details basically but maybe (some) games still use bumps. I've only heard about normal maps tbh

candy behr's body type is exactly like candy asmus' body, and shes a real person, id just like to see even more diversity. more very thin sims, more highly heavy sims, the more diverse the more realistic, the problem is all sims kind of look the same pre-townie update

I assume next will be the Pancakes since they already have a sort of updated version with Iggy on the gallery, either them or another super iconic family like the Landgraabs.

Love the lamp. It's a SAD (Seasonal affective disorder) Lamp. My mum has one for the months October - March as we don't get a lot of sunlight in the UK during that time.

An idea for the moodlit lamp is to use it for an indoor pool-type area. Having a laying lawn chair with 2-4 moodlit lamps around the chair as a mock sun station. Cheers :)

The Caliente's desperately need a makeover

The moodlet lamp reminds me of Vit D lamps people use in winter.

I love how Kayla has a peppa pig costume from cc 😆lol

some of the hot weather outfits my townies wear are hilarious... i'll be at the cafe or bar and townies, especially elder ones, will come waltzing in wearing whole ass velvet lingerie i downloaded for sleep for my sims 😭 it's ridiculous but until they update it it's worth it for a laugh sometimes lmao

I don't like that they can just go in and change the game like this, I'm going to miss the iconic looks of the families that we've had since the beginning of the game.

Cassandra looks so cute now 🥺

I think because the sims team has been working on the revamp for such a long time, possibly even before the likes and dislikes.

I wanna see yuki and candy LOOK LIKE THEIR ORGINS LIKE DJ CANDY AND MY NON WHITEWASHED GOTHY YUKI

I actually liked them more before this refresh because their looks were so iconical

In all my saves I spend some time to add Johnny Zest to Landgraab family, because it feels right

side note, but you look SO good in this video!! your eyes are shining and your hair is extra cute and your skin is is glowing

I saw the moodlet light yesterday when I was redoing my sims room and wondering why I never saw it before. Guess this is way 🙂

I like the Goth family refresh! I like that they brought back elements from older games, like changing Alex's glasses. But i agree that it is strange that they didn't address likes and dislikes.

2:37 not the pepper pig outfit😭🤣