THEY REALLY ASKED FOR PERMISSION TO PASS! (SHOULD YOU?) 

Been riding for more than 30 years. Asking for "permission" to pass another rider/group, is about the DUMBEST shit that I have ever heard. 😂

Lifetime rider here. Find this ridiculous. The issue is that groups of riders (usually on cruisers) act as rolling roadblocks (and they don't care). That's what's discourteous. The idea that I should have to get permission to pass someone that is already acting in a discourteous manner just isn't right. These groups feel they can impose their riding style on others - that's not OK.

Fuck no. I pass wherever and whenever I want, and I do it safely. It's a free country.

I was making leisurely miles in Northern California on my BMW RT when a fair-sized group of East Bay Dragons came up on me. I moved over to allow them to pass and was surprised to have two or three members wave me in to join them! I rode with them for several miles after joining them and felt the community of riders had reached new horizons for me. When my exit came up, I saluted all and received smiles and salutes in return and have remembered this little incident (about 25 minutes or so) with pleasure ever since and am sorry that circumstances didn't allow me to meet these fellow riders.

I like to signal that I’m about to pass by lifting the front wheel. 😂

Good video, my brother. I don't know that I've ever asked permission, but I don't pass until it is safe. As I pass I always give a short wave. I think all riders are my brothers, regardless of race, creed, or bike. Thisis the creedo I follow on every ride, for over 325K miles...Ride on.

I just happened upon your channel. I am an old 1%er biker from the East Coast. What 99%er MC’s do not realize is that as a 1%er club we are constantly scanning our backs, sides, and front. Not only do we scan for motorcycles but cages (cars). The 1 %er lifestyle is full of other rivals that can pull up on us and cause problems. We are always weary of fast approaching motorcycles (esp since we cruise at 80-85(open highway). We scan for vans, trucks, etc. we scan for cages with multiple guys inside. Even scan the colors of the cages and bumper stickers etc. it could cost us our life. Secondly, when approaching a 1%er pack it is HUGE respect to know the road protocol as this video teaches. There are Saftey issues as mentioned but a the biggest is RESPECT. I have never, in 40+ yrs of MC seen anyone denied permission to pass when offering this respect. This is good educational stuff right here! Thanks

As a solo rider, I can see asking permission if we are on a one lane road. But if there are multiple lanes, I'll gladly wave at you as I pass by.

I've been riding for 25 years and I have never come across this or a big group of motorcyclist where I had to be concerned about this. Very Interesting and good to know.

These videos of Harley riders, losing their shit thinking they own the road, are hillarious. Keep right, dont block the passing lane. No problem.

Now if your group is on the left lane and I’m alone on the right lane and someone from that group wants to hop in my lane to stop me from passing them. Thats just foolery. I’m passing you no matter what, the right lane is already open, I don’t need your permission to continue on that lane I was riding on.

No. End of discussion.

I ride a Hog. I’m not a 1%er. I get passed without permission and I’ve passed without permission. I always give respect by nods and gestures, many times not getting it in return. No, I won’t ask for permission. I give respect while doing my thing. “‘Murica” !

Hell no, no one owns the road and we all pay taxes. If they don't like it they can try and catch me. Im riding doing my own thing and have no idea who they are. just like a car I signal and stay straight in my lane I wave or nod at bikers but that is as far as it goes. I don't drive places to meet people and play stupid games. Respect is for people I care about not random strangers. They get what I expect, what drivers sharing the road deserve and not more

😮 ask permission? No way, group doesn't own the road. Everyone has the right to ride free. Free of this BS.

No matter how crazy the world gets, courtesy and respect never really go out of style. Consider it a bonus that this is for both party's safety.

HD's biggest enemy...the tools who ride their bikes

This is a great video! This addresses some stigmas between bikers on the road (especially new riders). Just about everything revolves around safety and respect. Ride safe!!!

I started riding in 1981 and I've NEVER heard of asking another rider for "permission" to pass. I just ride my ride. That's my business. I'll acknowledge other riders always with a nod or a hand salute depending upon the posture of my motorcycle (am I in a sharp turn or straight and level), but I won't ask permission to pass. That's what slow lanes are for. I do ride the speed limit, so 99% of the time, others are passing me, but I've never encountered anyone asking my permission. I just that it's ridiculous. They don't need my permission, and I don't need theirs.

Been riding all my life. Cali, Texas, deep south. I never asked a damn thing.

I’m curious. This is an honest question. No pun intended. Do Highway Patrol motorcyclist have to ask for permission to pass motorcycle groups by? If not, why should others have to? Have anyone “seriously” told the highway patrol “no?” If so, what was the outcome, if any?

Last group I passed riding in a single lane was at 200kph and I didn’t ask permission … 😅

The more I learned about 1%ers, the less I wanted anything to do with that. The whole point is supposed to be freedom. You take on a whole extra set of rules and restrictions. I have never once had to ask permission to ride through territory, pass a group, etc. I ride where I want, when I want, with who I want. I have no one to answer to or ask permission from.

NO! You NEVER ask thugs for permission for anything! Thugs don't own the road. Never bend the knee to these type of people.

Having respect and showing videos like this is really helpful for me as a new rider, most of these bikers are experienced and this video educated newbies like myself about looking out for these moments. I love the riding community and appreciate this video. Love from Brooklyn NY

Hey Bro. I definitely feel you. And respect and peace to you’re falling brother . Peace to everyone one the chat and blessing Too all.

I think it's more about the respect and safety rather than a permission to pass. Because at the end of the day getting home safe is rule number one. Stay safe...

The only "permission" needed is to use your blinker, and drive safely. Other than that, kiss my ass.

I aint scared of old men just pass

I’m just getting into riding and I just absolutely love the respect and the care that bikers have over car drivers.

Brother, have never experienced that before out on the trail, but that was a great gesture by them, and equally as cool to respectfully acknowledge them back. That’s what our community should always look like. We all love riding, let’s enjoy it and each other.

I never really understood this as a new rider, but after some close calls, it makes sense. The point about safety is very true at the 2:18 mark on your video. There was some debris that a biker in your group had to quickly maneuver around. If he/she was aware of other faster riders passing by, the swerve could have caused a bigger issue.

Permission to use a dam public road? You can stand on one foot and whistle Dixie if you think I'm going to. How stupid. Grow up and get over this gang BS.

Man. I'm not asking to pass shit. Me and the boys won't mess with your crew and won't mix between another group. But other then a head nod or a quick wave. That's it while I'm going by.

Most Definitely! It’s all about respect & most importantly, safety. I was always taught that the “permission” procedure was reserved for passing OMCs.. but since becoming the Road Captain of my chapter, I get the yes or no from all MCs. You never know what moves they need to make soon or what the conditions are up ahead! Stay Safe.. Stay Dangerous!! - Trouble2Times✌🏽

Im a free American, I own me and my bike, I am not in a gang, I do not play by your games! Just because you want to be a bully means nothing, I hate bullies! I ride where and how I want! But.... I do highly believe in respect and love for my Fam on 2!!!

Safety and being Respectful always a good thing. Thank you for that Video MY MAN!

I ride with a club so we ask for the pass. At a minimum we will acknowledge the group with a hand waive. When I ride alone, I acknowledge the fellow rider, whether he is wearing a vest or not. There is nothing wrong with being nice and respectful of other riders.

While doing the poker run in the Florida keys I had mixed experiences. Some groups would show etiquette while others just zoomed by recklessly. I guess it depends on your character.

This education needs to get passed on to everyone. Now some times, you might run into a crew that don’t want you to pass them. Now for any reason you feel you need to pass them and it’s safe…what do you do? This is why I will always keep a fast bike cause you might have to scoot on pass them. I’ve heard of situations but never experienced them.

Appreciate you teaching us new riders the proper protocols for this new endeavor. The way most of the MC fellas roll, I am the one being passed, never passing. Thanks my bruh, another great video Mane.

Absolutely! Mutual Respect, for them to ask and you to not hold them up.

Courtesy on the road especially between MC’s goes a long way. Discourtesy on the other hand causes unnecessary problems.

I’ve been riding for 40+ years and never signaled to pass anyone. I just ride safe and pass. I do acknowledge the other bikes with a hang lose hand gesture.

All about respect and safety. This made me smile.

I've been riding for almost 25 years and I'm just now hearing more and more people in the community bring up this question. I've always acknowledged every brother and sister on two wheels that I encounter and the only time I wait to pass is if we are running the corners in the mountains and they're slower than me. I feel like if you're coming up on a large group ride that obvious, of course give way. Over all as long as we respect each other the community will continue to be a place of a passion for riding.

You should have 200k subscribers right now fam. Your videos too well put together 🔥🔥🔥

I don't know if this is a USA thing but if anyone driving or riding doesn't need permission and nobody has any right to object to overtaking in a safe manner. I for one am not asking anyone for permission, I've been riding for over 30 years and I've never heard anything so stupid.

I get acknowledgement, specially for safety, but not asking for permission. If i have to pass a group, ill make sure they know im there, but im not waiting for permission.

Thanks G I have heard that riding through a group of MC'S is disrespectful and could cause some problems. I always want to be respectful at all times✌🏽✌🏽

If it's a big group, we hang back if they are in the fast lane. If it's just Kake and me... and the group is in the number two lane, we have never asked for permission to pass because maybe they are riding at a slower pace for a reason. However, we still acknowledge them. If we are riding with a group, and we approach another group, (on their right) then we ask for permission to pass. As you said, it's common courtesy and we thank them.

Just G-KUE, informational and done well. I always enjoy your videos. I see you closing in on 10k subs. That's only a milestone based on the potential this channel has. Much respect keep doing what you do sir!

I don't ask. Pass me if you want.

I usually hang back if they moving good down the road. I seldom pass cause i'm seldom in any kind of a hurry. I'll pull in at the next fuel stop and introduce myself. Most of the time i'll get invited to ride with them. We have a lot of HOG chapters around here. There's 9 HD dealerships in a 110 miles radius. I'm 55 and I feel like a pup compared to most of those guy's. I definitely show respect where it's due. They do tend to be a little on the slower side and have a lot of rules, but I can dig that because they been out there doing their thing for a long time.

I greatly appreciate you pointing this out to us/me. Your content, as usual, is not only entertaining, but informative. Keep up the great work!!

Being polite is never wrong, Its respect & thats really all we want♥️🧡💛💚💜💙

Another informative video my guy. Its always easier to get others to listen and understand when the "why" is explained. Good vid.

Should I ask for permission if I want to pass a group of a cars?

Nope, I'm grown. I dont need to ask a bunch of criminals if I can freely drive along.

One RU-vidr who didn't know about protocols almost got kicked off his bike. Black Dragon spoken on that incident especially coming up on a 1%er club. He said hang back and the tail gunner will ask what your intentions are ? And you ask if you can pass, he will tell you hold and ride up front and then drop back to you and he will either give you the ok or no. If it is ok then you proceed and roll by and give them a nod and go on about your business.

I like the mind state you are in and on the video I could see the mutual respect between the 2 biker groups ✊

I bought my first bike in 1973, a wave, a nod and a hand shake goes a long way in showing respect to other riders. I never had any issues from any other riders.

My first 1% encounter when I use to ride I was on a Hurricane flew up and past them they chased me for a long long time 😂I had no clue as to why guess after all these years now I know why

I see you’re taking full advantage of your educational skills. Thanks so much for putting your own special spin on How and Why. Of course you started today’s lesson with a historical Lesson, that made me want to keep watching until the end.

You raise some wonderful points that I hadn't even considered like a huge group and maybe they will be exiting soon. Thanks for that!

More of this! Been daily commuting for just a few years on a big bore bike but I totally agree with everything you say. If anything rules, common sense and courtesy get you home safe. Took out a few mirrors, brake-checked here and there but soon realized that was not going to solve anything. Liked and subscribed. Understanding one another and learning to communicate is key.

I am surprised to see any courtesy shown by these outlaw bikers.

drop a gear and disappear, wait for that outside lane and go. these guys are clowns

It’s just about safety and respect, something all of us need to practice more ✊

Do you believe you should ask for permission to pass? lemme know below. Check out my last ride to Daytona Bike week here ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-gJ0hS9AT_is.html

I'm a sportbiker who worked on Harleys for years, I ride alone and always show respect when passing a club or group of riders.

Sounds like Harley high school bullshit

Not today not ever.

I haven't ridden for about 20 years, and then I mostly rode solo. The only hand signal I ever saw was the hand down with a peace sign or to fingers down, to indicate "keep the rubber side down" or just "stay safe." However your post did remind me of an ancient post I got off the Internet back in the 80's or 90's. Presented here for your amusement: The Best Thing About MotorCycles The best thing about motorcycles is that they are a reasonable, economical mode of transportation. When I first bought my cycle, I tried to ride it as much as possible in order to save the money I'd otherwise be spending on gas for my car. Well, actually, my cycle only gets 40mpg, but the comparative maintenance costs would have been much lower except, well, I got run over by a truck the second month I had it. Dang thing just backed right over me in a parking lot. Not pretty, at all. I mean, if he'd gotten me out on the highway where I would've had room to run, I could see some sport in it. Instead, he lurked in his parking spot til I rode by and then blam!, backed out and nailed my butt to the ground. I derived some minor satisfaction by breaking some of his glass with my hand and shoulder and scraping paint off of his tailgate with my knee, but all in all, it was not a growth experience. The hospital costs and repair bill weren't nearly as discouraging as the fact that the motorcycle shop kept my machine for many, many months. But I did get to make trips to the motorcycle shop where I met other cyclists and began to acquire the cycle-riding mystique. I bought a pack of cigarettes to roll up in the arm of my T-shirt and learned to insert the syllable "fuk" at rhythmic places in my sentences. That's the best thing about motorcycles, the instant comraderie you develop with your fellow riders on the road. I remember the first time an oncoming rider waved at me. It was so surprising, such a warm feeling to be accepted by a stranger, merely because of my choice of conveyance. It happened again, and again, over the course of my riding career until one day, feeling outgoing and self confident, as a rider approached me, *I* spread out the fingers of my left hand in the unmistakable sign of cycle fellowship. As he ignored me and sped by, I yelled "I was just reaching for the clutch, mutha fukka!". That's the best thing about motorcycles, nobody can hear a thing you're yelling while you're riding one. I mean, you can yell, curse, sing, whatever, and the wind and engine noise carry it all away from the ears of anyone but yourself. Personally, I like to make "vrrooom" noises. I know, it's childish, but I think it's the child in people that makes them want to ride. Whenever I pass a car full of kids, they all stare in awe at my cycle. It's a daring vehicle, something their parents warn them off of, like drugs and making early CD withdrawals. So, there I was at a stop light. Beside me, a truck full of college males, drinking and harassing the people in the vehicles around them. I revved the motor slightly, using what I had learned about the motorcycle mystique to project an air of toughness. Unfortunately, I had forgotten to turn on the gas, the engine sputtered, and I found myself sitting on a dead cycle, yelling "Vrroooom, vrroooooom" into the unexpected silence. That's the best thing about motorcycles, people don't mess with you no matter how you act. And with good reason, for many normal, everyday riding tasks can be misinterpreted as signs of extreme courage or lunacy. Many people are afraid to drive *cars* in Huntsville, let alone ride on a motorcycle. My ride begins at the bottom of a steep hill which is my apartment's parking lot. At the top of the hill is a blind turn onto a two-lane road which was recently repaved so that the patrons of the nearby drinking establishment can acheive higher speeds in their pickup trucks and Trans Ams. This road leads down to the Parkway, a black snake of death, where the ditches are littered with the vehicles that failed the ordeals of the day before. Yes, a cycle rider in Huntsville has a certain amount of respect, implicitly. I guess you can't really grasp the great thing about motorcycles until you've got one. I could make you a good deal...

Respect goes a long ways ✌️

When I started riding, I had a good friend who was part of an MC give me the proper protocol just for this. I'm grateful that he took the time to educate me on the things of this nature.

This video was random as hell but even more informative then I could have imagined. I'm a Ryker rider and never considered this but now I know about this unwritten courtesy. I always do two or three wheels down salute when I see fellow riders but this is nice to know. Thanks for posting

I would pass you guys slow a$$ With my ZX10R lmao

I use my turn signals that's about as courteous as I get.

Respect as always... Thanks for sharing the protocols.

Bullshit! I caught up to a six pack this morning. I waited for a passing lane to go around them and they blocked both lanes. I had to follow their slow asses all the way to my turn to the twisties. Bikers are thugs and once they put that vest on and join their group they are suddenly tough guys. Having to deal with slow cars sucks. Having to deal with thugs on bikes is just stupid!!!!!

I ride. F the clubs and their fantasy etiquette.

You don't need permission to pass. Just ride a sportbike and pass everything without hesitation.

A bunch of manboys in leather. Now i will make it a point not to ask. 😂😂😂

I will acknowledge other bikers on the road ,no matter if they are riding in the same or opposite direction . If i see a group of bikes on an obvious funeral or memorial run , I wouldn’t overtake them anyway . If they are just a group out for a ride ,there is no way I would ask any permission to overtake them. I am not in their club ,nor have any intentions of joining any, they are welcome to their rules , as a non member they don’t apply to me . I have no intention of asking a bunch of hog jockeys or anyone for permission to overtake .

It’s not discourteous of me to go about my business. I’m not asking permission and their leather vests don’t mean shit to me lol. Semper fi.

Bunch of children on motorcycles

We live on a busy state hwy and spring and summer means motorcycle groups doing their outings. I would say that most are respectful owners and riders. But there's always the wanna be dudes and gals who are more interested in riding "cool" than being safe. Riding in very tight groups and of course trying to make as much noise as they can so people notice them. There was a serious accident a few years ago when a group of riders like that experience some sort of obstruction on the road when the front bikes braked suddenly and the bikers toward the rear of the pack could not react in time. A female rider on the back of one of those bikes died in the crash. She was not wearing a helmet or good leathers. Just street cloths and not very much of that. Gotta look hot you know.

I’ve been riding for 176 years and this is about dumb. 😅😂

If I see a huge group of Harley’s while in a liter Bike you already know I’m finna show them what speed is

This is respect in pure form ride on

Sport bike rider here Yamaha Fz1… typically cruisers don’t wave so I don’t ask for permission when I see them on the hwy💨💨💨💨

If someone is in another lane and they pass you up, why does it matter if they look and point or ask to pass? Wouldn't their having to do all that take their focus off the road?

They are not in control of the roads and people should not give them that authority…. Pass them

Simple no. Do you ask permission from a convoy of trucks if you can pass them or even a bunch of R.V.’s that are part of an R.V. Club, of course not. So why is it any different for motorcycles. Overtake, enjoy your ride and have fun.

The age old question is HOW OLD ARE YALL?

Most definitely. I had to this experience just coming back fromn Daytona. i caught up with some Wheels and was in a rush. I signal to the lead and he appeared more than happy to give me the green light. 30 mins before that I was behind some Mongos. They took up both lanes, even slow traffic to 40 mph. I knew passing them wasn't an option. So rather than endanger my wife and i, we just chilled back until our exit came.

If the lane is clear, I'm passing. I'm not asking for permission.

Do you ask other drivers to pass when you drive a car 3:15 ? Or to turn? Or to stop for gas? You cultists are sooo funny. 🤣

Get elected Road Captain. You have an obligation to the group you are leading. It certainly involves more than letting people pass. The bigger the group the more important it becomes. Leading 800 bikes is a bit different than leading 4 bikes. R.C. & President up front with an experienced & trusted member riding Drag.