They Say Using This Camera In Gran Turismo Is CHEATING

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Is third person camera unfair in Gran Turismo 7 or should we accept these advantages?
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@JDavidChilders 6 месяцев назад

What's wrong with choosing the view that works best for you? Maybe they're all 'right', depending on the driver.

@Kireth 6 месяцев назад

nothing wrong with this in my book!!

@2SK3TCHY 6 месяцев назад

slow content day

@NinjaNovice 6 месяцев назад

Nothing wrong until racing against other people who don't and would never use third person (grand theft auto) view for GT7. What's wrong with racing without third person view? Can't you just equal the viewing and playing field by adopting a view that a great majority of your competitors are using? Cheers!

@ccramit 6 месяцев назад

@notdonwon2 Video games are all about manipulating code and pixels. If you want to make yourself slower by driving in a less than optimal view then go ahead. But don't try and force others to use it or act like you only lost because you decided to handicap yourself.

@Fer-ct9hp 6 месяцев назад

@@ccramit 👍👍👍

@dohnjoe9211 6 месяцев назад

It's not cheating if it's in the game. If someone thinks chase cam gives such an immense advantage, they are more than welcome to use it.

@michaelmonstar4276 Месяц назад

He literally explained that you can do more in third-person, like exploiting track-limits to... well, the limit. - I feel that discredits the entire organization of the tournament, or the game itself even. - Why bother pretending it's a "simulator" when you can float behind a car like some kind of ghost?... Doesn't make any sense at all. It's the same crap as when in PUBg you can look over walls in third-person. - Sure, "if it's officially in the game, it's not cheating", but I just disagree, because in practice it literally is. The game is just broken in my view. - That said, I don't think it's AS bad in racing, but if they allow that in tournaments, that's just not right.

@dohnjoe9211 Месяц назад

@@michaelmonstar4276 you're more than welcome to go play a sim. I never even claimed this game was a sim. Unless tournament rules state that using an in-game mechanic is cheating, then it isn't cheating. For example, a lot of people think shotguns are unfair in FPS games, but using one is not cheating unless tournament rules specify that it is. Many fighting games have broken characters: you know what people do? They ban those characters in competitive settings. Go ahead and petition for a ban of chase cam. Otherwise, stop whining.

@gseric4721 6 месяцев назад

The fastest drivers in the world use bumper/front of bonnet. I will never do that. I will always drive in cockpit mode, regardless of whether I'm losing half a second a lap or not.

@BL4K_B4BIES 5 месяцев назад

Legend

@BsCurious 4 месяца назад

Exactly. You don't see Lewis Hamilton jumping out an stapping himself to the outside the car (that would be funny) during the pit stop because he's driving slower this time.

@johndifool2985 6 месяцев назад

One issue with cockpit view for me is that, in a real car, I am able to defocus the framing around the windshield as I look out into the outside world. In a 2D sim tho, I cannot do that, but my mind keeps trying to, which as a result typically leads to some rather severe tension headaches after awhile behind the wheel.

@younglink309 6 месяцев назад

being locked in cockpit view was my biggest reason to quit iracing. Sure, it's realistic...except in real life i can TURN MY HEAD AND CHECK MIRRORS.

@stormmeansnowork 6 месяцев назад

Totally agree with you. Not sure if VR headsets change anything (as I havent tried that myself) but even so, I doubt it simulates sufficiently the real life experience

@user-zc9zt2vl5s 6 месяцев назад

thats why you play with PSVR2, super amazing!

@nsp5258 6 месяцев назад

VR is great for immersion and with time you can have good awareness with it, but it still doesn't give you much as peripheral vision/awareness like IRL. Blind spots are exacerbated in PSVR2 due to the fact that your mirrors do not change what you see in them depending on the angle your looking into it, meaning you only see what directly behind the mirror at all times limiting its actual real world effect. It's still managble but not true to IRL.

@therealsyxx 5 месяцев назад

Exactly. I dont use cockpit cam at all. They feel like im cheating so be it.

@ibrahimsahin8003 5 месяцев назад

Thats why u use a triple monitor setting

@TheSerphmx 6 месяцев назад

For years I have adopted 3rd person camera only for arcade racing like NFS and FH but for more inmersion and competitive gaming I stick to cockpit/first person camera, specially when playing with steering wheel. Somehow my skills are different lol

@michaelsmith4534 6 месяцев назад

Good video but I think you should have covered bumper cam. The view is pretty similar to bonnet and you quickly learn the dimensions of the car and can accurately put the wheels where you want them without having to see the bonnet. And you get the big advantage of the rear view mirror which I find essential, especially for close racing.

@littleinkling4604 5 месяцев назад

I'm bumper most of the time, but If the car is too low you sometimes can't see anything when behind another car. Switching to bonnet cam is then the same height as 'normal' bumper cam.

@jasonmoody2746 6 месяцев назад

As someone who's been driving daily for 20+ years and just started sin racing what you've said makes sense. The cockpit views are just not right senses wise. The hood (or bonnet) cam is most realistic to me and my fastest laps. The 3rd person view I wreck every turn. It feels so weird.

@Kireth 6 месяцев назад

🙌🙌

@awakeandwatching953 4 месяца назад

i started with the bonnet and felt i was quicker but started using the cockpit view got quicker with much more immersion

@michaelmonstar4276 Месяц назад

So you've been putting your head on the hood for 20+ years then... Very realistic.

@BL4K_B4BIES 6 месяцев назад

Wish we had cockpit only dailies

@christophersauer1939 6 месяцев назад

Most people wouldn’t play them, far too restrictive……

@vectorx777 5 месяцев назад

@christophersauer1939 That's the only way I play. I feel like it's the most realistic not only visually but feeling wise. I feel perfectly centered like driving in real life. May be a bit restrictive especially with the hypercars but just watch your radar and listen for the other engines beside and around you. Also use the damn brakes. A lo5 of drivers don't understand sometimes its better to pull back and let someone overtake you than to cause a crash.

@BL4K_B4BIES 5 месяцев назад

I think a lot of people would like to play on cockpit view. There are a lot of competitive people on GT7 who would like the emergence and level playing field that would offer.

@vectorx777 5 месяцев назад

@@BL4K_B4BIES I agree.

@kamielbuize4048 6 месяцев назад

If GT7 would make dialy race with "in cockpit" it would be a hole different story for some drivers. But the thing is in many cars the mirrors inside sucks.

@tristanwiegand5280 6 месяцев назад

If it's not cockpit view it's not really a simulation. I don't remember drivers being strapped to the roof of a car and getting around bathurst. Anyone that doesn't use cockpit view can only be playing an arcade game.

@NinjaNovice 6 месяцев назад

Exactly. It's really like a driving experience...or straight up video game sillyness watching the car like you are a bird flying behind it. Third "person?" lol.....more like first pigeon view....or first hawk view if manage faster cars.

@gseric4721 6 месяцев назад

But that is simply what makes them the fastest in the world, and that pace usually somehow transfers over to real life in most cases. Though this is true, I will always be a cockpit driver.

@nobodyimportant7380 6 месяцев назад

Bonnet view gives the most accurate to what a human sees in real life driving. For me personally the only time to really use cockpit view is VR.

@focussport 6 месяцев назад

I don't remember drivers having 2D static objects taking up their field of view like cockpit does. Cockpit in 2D is not realistic at all because it artificially limits your view, thats just fact. Bonnet may not seem the most "real", but when compared to cockpit in 2D it is much more representative of how our 3D vision eliminates stuff around us. I play VR only, and the view in 3D is NOTHING like 2D cockpit. It's not even the same world. Bonnet in 2D is the closest we'll get to what our eyes see IRL.

@videditorEB1 6 месяцев назад

@@focussport how exactly is a completely unobstructed view remotely close to what you see IRL??? In real life you look over a dashboard, through the windshield, over the hood of the car. There’s absolutely NOTHING artificial about the mass of the car in front of you blocking what you see outside. To claim otherwise is ridiculous. Please show me the car that you drive with zero obstructions to your sight line? I’ll wait…forever, because there is no such car. Nice try though.

@sithmetal3930 6 месяцев назад

Eesports should be cockpit view, manual transmission only.

@Argy_V 6 месяцев назад

Unless you have a triple screen or an ultra wide screen, cockpit cams of all games are wrong. You can't see what you could see in RL. Everything is to restricted. So, using another cam has a logic. I do use cockpit cam 99% of the time but i can understand your point.

@sonyx5332 5 месяцев назад

When it comes to the cockpit view in racing games on console, the best one or that I have found to prefer and like more is the one in ACC where it doesn't show the steering wheel, just the dashboard with the rev lights. Much better than the one cockpit view showing the steering wheel.

@Argy_V 5 месяцев назад

@@sonyx5332 i use this one too, in almost all racing games i play ( on pc ) . Feels more natural

@maximusdecimus5371 5 месяцев назад

its like looking trough a tube

@michaelmonstar4276 Месяц назад

It's also a matter of setting the camera position and FOV properly, because few people realize that often the camera is in an equivalent position of putting your face pretty much up against the rim of the steering-wheel, which would be idiotic to do in real life. Your head should be near the headrest of course, which some games at least allow you to do, and then you can already see more in width, as well as over the hood and plenty of the environment in front, plus if you tweak the FOV (but not too wide or everything in the distance will just become too distant, besides things will distort) you'll be able to have a good overview of everything critical. - But I bet most people don't bother and have that default "face-to-the-wheel" view and just feel it sucks, because it does. I didn't realize this for the longest time, but once I found games that let me change it, it clicked that it has often just been wrong in games and I could finally get the view that's more equivalent to real-life. - And yea, it really helps to at LEAST have 21:9, as it allows for about 30% more information and it feels a LOT more natural.

@billdaniel8310 6 месяцев назад

Last year Tidgney did some time trial testing with different views, and for him the bumper camera was the fastest.

@JeffWeselyan 6 месяцев назад

Not for me mine is top of bonnet

@me5969 6 месяцев назад

First person whether it be a shooter, RPG or racing game is not remotely like real life anyway. VR might be different but I've never used it so I have absolutely no concept it but your pov is limited and you can't move your neck and body in which when driving in real life is key. Maybe them massive rigs some people have that's pretty much a car have a decent field of view but if you've got one of them then you're at an advantage anyway. Anyone who plays the Elder Scrolls Oblivion and says "this is just like real life" needs a lobotomy and that is exactly the same for anyone who thinks driving in a cockpit in a game is like driving in real life.

@NinjaNovice 6 месяцев назад

In VR2 you can move you're head around and see everything. You can sit in a car and turn around and look at the back seats if the car has them. You drive like you normally do and turn your head to see the side view mirrors...it's a gigantic leap in "gaming" / racing. To me the VR2 is actually mind bending how good / "real" it actually feels and looks, especially with a basic wheel set up....no crazy movement rig...just a wheel set up and VR2.....scary good bro. scary good.

@nadeemb3300 6 месяцев назад

IMO 3rd person and bumper are easy mode. I prefer cockpit view, I hardly ever win but I like the challenge.

@BL4K_B4BIES 5 месяцев назад

Bonus points for cockpitview. Needed

@mickeymouse-kj3mb 6 месяцев назад

In gt7 u can move the camera around in the cockpit I have mine set higher up and further back

@CharlieBravoHotel 6 месяцев назад

I have a very good sim setup and I use 3rd person view, and I nail just about every corner. Remember we are talking about a racing game here and not real life. In reai life I get behind the wheel and drive, a racing game in 3rd person view for me because it's a racing game and not real. When it comes to playing racing games players can choose what ever driving view they want, because it is only a game and there should be no argument about what driving view you should or should not use.

@hardbreaktwo 6 месяцев назад

I like the drivers seat cam the most but when driving online im using third person to see what the idiots around me are doing😂😂

@feffe1312 6 месяцев назад

It is possible to get a better view from inside the cockpit if using the 'offset' .. Would be nice if 'no hands and wheel' was an option in cockpit view.

@tokenplays7334 6 месяцев назад

I hadn’t known this was an “issue” for some ppl, I love the bonnet view, it like a lot more precise

@iankaranja7765 6 месяцев назад

Personally, I prefer bonnet view because of the sound 😂😂 right next to the engine

@HelloMyNameIsZON3 6 месяцев назад

Use whatever camera you want but in terms of the official tournaments I personally think that it should be forced cockpit view

@Fer-ct9hp 6 месяцев назад

Keep dreaming about that, GTWS finals don't enforce cams, that's why Valerio Gallo uses external cam

@robwr737 6 месяцев назад

No, use what works best for you, you don't wreck others

@indigodoctor77 6 месяцев назад

When I am driving a real car I have the ability to look around… When you are stuck in a car looking forward then that is unfair in a racing scenario. I don’t know why people are even arguing this.

@michaelhumphrey8573 6 месяцев назад

I always use bonnet cam. Because then its good to know how far away you are from the car in front of you and how wide your car is to. And use Rader and the little red dots that come up when someone is close to you.

@BsCurious 4 месяца назад

My thoughts are if you go around saying your a sim racer and not using the inside cockpit ( I use the VR ) then its not sim racing. "Simulation, true to life" "Realistic". Thats sim racing. Using the real proper camera from the cockpit. If you were to translate this to racing in real life, you would be left behind

@RTR_R_T3MPO 6 месяцев назад

It’s just a preference IMO For me chase cam (3rd person) I can see all around me, how the car reacts and so on, but most roll with bumper or roof cam. It’s not actually on the bonnet which a lot of people think.

@Kireth 6 месяцев назад

flexible!!

@christianpereira875 4 месяца назад

If u wana be the GOAT drive in 3rd person , if u wana play for fun drive in 3rd person .... So we only use cockpit or bumper if we want to be mediocre?

@valkyriedd5849 6 месяцев назад

In GT bonnet cam is the most realistic for me because when I am sat playing my peripheral vision sees the room I'm sat in and my TV screen becomes the windscreen; I drive faster in bumper cam and the dials are better.

@michaelmonstar4276 Месяц назад

Except the screen isn't separated from where that camera is, so you're essentially saying that the windscreen is on top of the bonnet as well and your head is on the dashboard. - Thing with virtual images is, it already creates space between the virtual camera and whatever objects there are in front of it, which is an image that gets projected onto your eyes. Which in turn means that it simulates where your head is, and the space between the monitor and your real-life head does not count. - The virtual camera should be where your head would be in the virtual world, period, as it's first-person (not "in front of the person"). And then you're looking through this "virtual window" (which is your character's eyes) and how large that window is depends on the monitor's aspect-ratio as well as the FOV-setting. - So the correct camera-position (which is in front of the head-rest) plus a proper FOV-setting (so it's at least not too "zoomed in" like most games) is how it's "correct". - The only problem with this is, if you're far away from the screen, it makes it worse, and if your monitor is small, it makes it worse yet. I mean, if you can't get the virtual steering-wheel to be nigh life-size on the screen (as it would be nearest to the virtual camera or character's view), that's basically too small. But there ya go, my two cents.

@oppos727 6 месяцев назад

As a bit of an admitted comment-section critic on your videos, this is honestly one of your best works. Correct FOV would be a good addition to this subject and how to use an online FOV calculator to maximize a realistic sense of speed, making the most of a 2D first-person POV.

@codyroberts4010 6 месяцев назад

Chase cam driver here but because I'm on controller and can't really feel what the car is doing so I have to go off of sight, if that makes sense.

@emceeschwartz 6 месяцев назад

Been playing Gran Turismo 4 on my steam deck. Only with the bonnet cam can I get my fastest times. But I only play Gran Turismo 7 in VR

@chrisdettanascar9264 6 месяцев назад

To be honest with the ground view or bumper view is what I have used for years it gives me that sensation of realness

@theloungeroomracer1015 6 месяцев назад

I drive 3rd person as that’s how I played “pole position” on Atari, I tried bumper but I find I spin easier as I can’t see the rear rotating. If I changed I’d go bumper so I can have a rear view camera, I sometimes do time trial and daily A in bumper cam; but in serious stuff like gtws I’m 3rd person as per your benefits. I feel bumper and bonnet u see brake markers better

@FarmGuy343 6 месяцев назад

I started in roof camera. When I switched to bumper cam, I instantly became faster. I feel like I'm more in the track, I guess

@gseric4721 6 месяцев назад

bumper cam will always be faster. Sure, you have to adjust, but you will always find more speed in that cam and front of bonnet because you know exactly where the dimensions of the car/tyres end.

@SquiggyWigginz 6 месяцев назад

Saw my Maserati MC20! Didn't realize a game had that. I own a Cielo version in white. Fun car. 😁

@DanDiMaggio 6 месяцев назад

Who is "they" and why do they have anything to do with how you or anyone plays a game they payed for? The real argument that causes the controversy is this: Do people driving in cams like chase cam give that person an advantage over someone who drives in the cockpit cam. The answer to that is yes, and it's for all the reasons you mention here. Everyone do what you want. It's your game and you payed for it. I've said this before and I'll say it again. There are two types of sim drivers. Those who want as much immersion as possible and those that want to win at all costs. Neither is wrong imo. I just wish they would split them up when racing in competition settings.

@videditorEB1 6 месяцев назад

Also, the difference in left and right-hand drive can’t be simulated when your camera is stuck in the center of the car. Bottom line: Cockpit cam is more difficult. If it’s TOO difficult for you to deal with, then you’re not a sim-racer. You’re not simulating anything. Sorry, but facts.

@SuPerArCtiK 6 месяцев назад

Like he said, unless you get a huge screen or VR, the cockpit camera doesn't give you a vision as wide as you will get irl so it's also far to be close to reality ...

@videditorEB1 6 месяцев назад

@@SuPerArCtiKlike I said, cockpit cam is the most realistic view available in any sim. Is it totally realistic? No. Is there a view more realistic?? Again...no.

@martinbaker9277 6 месяцев назад

I agree with you Kireth, the hood cam gives me the closest to how I perceive driving a real car. Have you tried Forza's "driver cam", I find that's better than the cockpit cam, which always looks like the same as when you're in the back seat of a taxi!

@leightonmorrell3597 6 месяцев назад

NONE of the views are totally realistic. As when we drive a car at the limit of grip in real life we depend on feel. It's about feeling that back end start to lose grip. No sim can replicate this. Some professional racing drivers are hopeless at sim racing. Ben Collins says the two are so different. So any visual advantage probably makes up for the lack of physical inertia felt when driving at speed in real life.

@bc8648 6 месяцев назад

Best thumbnail of 2024 so far ❤

@Kireth 6 месяцев назад

STOP THE COUNT

@_macheton_dc4_ls563 5 месяцев назад

You earned yourself a new subscriber and like just for the thumbnail picture alone 😂😂😂

@Fer-ct9hp 6 месяцев назад

Use any camera that you want and don't criticize people like me, Valerio Gallo and others for using external view cam only because you want "immersion and reality"

@hoodzzeee 6 месяцев назад

I was today years old when i realised "Big Camera" controls SimRacing. Great vid mate.

@MuscleCarLover 6 месяцев назад

Roof cam is the only one I can drive in in GT7. Interior cam has the delayed steering animation that throws me off, I can't position my car properly in bumper cam and in a racing game chase cam is just all sorts of awful for my driving

@fred420 5 месяцев назад

Thank you! been saying this for years that the cockpit view in sim games is not like real life at all. When I'm driving IRL I don't even notice the dashboard as such I always use the bonnet/hood cam which is much more accurate..

@knallpistolen 6 месяцев назад

That thumbnail is golden 😄😂

@Kireth 6 месяцев назад

😅😅

@SSRT_JubyDuby8742 6 месяцев назад

Since GT Sport I have only driven in roof cam, except for cars like the Mini, and for the reasons that you said. Whereas as before, GT4 for example, I was always a chase cam racer, but now I am thoroughly converted 😅. Like deployed 👍

@LehRockz 5 месяцев назад

00:05 What car is this?

@jibrilxisreal8037 6 месяцев назад

I wished they let us customize which cam show when you swap I’d like to have just two views third and cockpit. I hate having to cycle between all of them

@JoyManoppo 6 месяцев назад

When i was a kid i was playing gran turismo on hood cam

@shougaijin 6 месяцев назад

Completely agree about the bonnet camera. It's definitely the most like being in a car based on my setup.

@videditorEB1 6 месяцев назад

You have a car with a completely unobstructed view in front of you? No dash? No A pillars?? No windshield??? Lol. Funny. The view that’s most like being in a car, is the view from IN THE CAR. 😂

@nicolasoliveira4903 6 месяцев назад

@@videditorEB1 we dont see that in real life. F1 drivers dont see the Halo, humans dont see their nose.

@waynedaley7738 6 месяцев назад

Not cheating just not realistic when people want to race as real as possible

@Fayt262 6 месяцев назад

You should use which ever cameraview you want. Tge game allows it so its not cheating. Its a game not real life. In real life i can turn my head and see out of all the windows not just half of the front wind shield and driver's side window.

@martinbaker9277 6 месяцев назад

Absolutely love the thumbnail pic, hilarious 😂

@Fpvpilot928 6 месяцев назад

Definitely think that inside car is the best advantage. You think that any F1 driver sim race in 3rd person or bonnet view? Do they lose?

@SteveBrandon 6 месяцев назад

I want to like hood/bonnet-cam but, short of maybe bumper cam, it's the camera that gives me a motion sensitivity headache the fastest. There are a handful of games like Need for Speed Shift (yeah, I know it's approaching 15 years old but I haven't played any serious racing games since 7th gen) where I do like playing in cockpit view for a while but I generally have always preferred third-person camera even if it's generally looked down upon by purists.

@duainedouds-tilley4823 6 месяцев назад

What is that orange car?

@JubbatheHatt 6 месяцев назад

In the car works best for me either cockpit hood bonnet as i can feel the cars rear end losing grip in chase cam i am shite 😂im sure chase cam costs laptime too but whatever floats your boat

@ogbob1 6 месяцев назад

Whatever camera view makes you faster then use it 👊🏻 I use 3rd person 👌🏻

@JunoBuh 2 месяца назад

That thumbnail is just so good.

@CharlieBravoHotel 6 месяцев назад

You can choose whatever views that works best for you, I did use roof cam for years in GT Sport. Now I use Chase cam view in GT7 all the time and I loving it, ok it is not real and it is only a game sitting in my driving simulater.

@DiariesOfABadDriver 4 месяца назад

My argument is that, especially when using a single monitor, ALL of the cameras are wrong in some way. But the cockpit is the least wrong.

@coruptgovt 6 месяцев назад

I use 1st person, which you didn't mention, gives the most view of the road to come, i feel most comfortable in 1st person and know exactly where my wheels will touch on the side, just my opinion.

@venomousx8964 6 месяцев назад

Assetto corsa camera customisation is great , shame gt7 isn't as good with its options with camera adjustments

@bradmeyers2103 6 месяцев назад

I play mostly in vr so I'm kinda used to and race better in cockpit cam

@GalactusTheDestroyer 6 месяцев назад

So I'm normally a cockpit, only kind of guy. But the other day I was racing not in vr but the citreon car cockpit was atrocious. That was the first time I went to the bumper cam and actually had fun.

@Kireth 6 месяцев назад

ONE OF US

@loganm2766 5 месяцев назад

Thumbnail is hilarious

@StephenSecretSSmith0007 6 месяцев назад

Yes ! Wheres the IMMERSION In 3 person !?

@NinjaNovice 6 месяцев назад

in a bird's beak i presume

@channydin 6 месяцев назад

I have way better reaction with cockpit. Something about seeing the wheel move with track makes the driving feel smoother.

@sonyx5332 5 месяцев назад

Anyone saying that using that camera view equals to cheating is a damn first class special kind of eedeeot (as Niko Bellic would say).

@arnymon9340 4 месяца назад

I prefer realism, cockpit when i drive with wheel. Sometime third person when im on controler.

@carston101 6 месяцев назад

Normally I prefer third person or cockpit cam, but in GT7 the ONLY way I can drive even decently well is hood/bumper cam. I absolutely cannot use the 3rd person cam in GT7

@ExodiaNecross2 6 месяцев назад

3rd person all the way for me

@therealsyxx 5 месяцев назад

I'm using 3rd person. I like to see my entire car. The way it feels and the way i have to drive is still sim. But my reaction time seems quicker in the cock pit or the bumper.

@GergelyJurasits 6 месяцев назад

and what about cockpit camera offset mode? Am I the only one who use that? It feels me the best compromise in 2D ever!

@painful1978 6 месяцев назад

ACC and project cars have the best cams

@KainsTorment 6 месяцев назад

Cockpit view looks cool but it’s impossible to race as you can’t see especially in a Lamborghini where you can’t see over the dash so you can’t see the track. Plus the door/window struct blocks your view plus you get distracted by the windscreen reflections and the nobs and dials. I’m in a wheelchair and often on roads and the view without any car is the easiest for me as that’s just what I see. However in The Crew Motorfest I prefer the bonnet cam but the cockpit view is easier than GT7. If GT7 made the Cockpit View much higher then I would actually use it.

@rdeh1678 3 месяца назад

I prefer realistic, so I just use cockpit view, but me rig is a full motion platform, and I have wind generator to simulate speed , and in vr

@indigodoctor77 6 месяцев назад

If it claims to be a simulator then I require the ability to drive with full visibility and that’s about it. If I’m inside the car then I can’t see much so I need full visibility if I am going to accept this as a simulator. It’s that simple. Conversation over.

@carlosrusso2126 6 месяцев назад

I only had to make 2 cameras, when you play with remote control the camera 3 person only with remote control, and if you play with the steering wheel the interior of the car, only that 2 .it would be logical

@AmitDebnath09 6 месяцев назад

The best camera is VR. My VR laps are more consistent, faster, and just more engaging.

@CamelCanada 6 месяцев назад

Why was this view not discussed. It is the most realistic. Most YT players don’t use because they can’t interact with their chat. I only use VR. 🇨🇦

@juniorlelis8010 6 месяцев назад

Just one detail, because the bumper camera is actually on the roof of the car, close to the windshield, there isn't even a hood camera

@focussport 6 месяцев назад

You are 100% right here K. The people arguing for cockpit being the most realistic are COMPLETELY ignoring how our eyes parse visual information. "IRacing does it" is not an argument for anything. If people are arguing for "realism" then VR would be the only way. Like you've said, having a 2D interior template blocking a third of the screen that you cannot see past is in no way realistic at all. Bonnet is 100% the closest GT7 gives us to a realistic driving vantage. 3rd person is definitely the least real of any of them, and is the only one I would point at as being a "cheat", but it is a fun way for people to play and see the car in action, so who cares if that's someones preference. Great vid!

@MightyMikeVR 6 месяцев назад

I don't care if other people play in 3rd person but I would never feel like I do sim racing if I played in 3rd person, that's videogaming to me. In my opinion, simulation is about making it real and 3rd person doesn't feel real at all. I think VR is the best way to go if you want to get as close as possible to the real thing.

@littleinkling4604 5 месяцев назад

I was always chase cam up to GT4. It was always more fun, but then my friends and the AI were always worse than me. Things changed when it went to online and went bumper cam. Despite the better competition the joy wasn't there so much. That PP isn't used in daily races is just anti-GT in my opinion. Mixing up cars is what GT used to be all about. Its still a great game but it tries its hardest to be corduroy and beige.

@pyy9316 5 месяцев назад

I don't think the cockpit view in GT7 is realistic, unless you have PS VR2. Cockpit view without a steering wheel like we have in AC and ACC is way better.

@mattikake9859 5 месяцев назад

I use bumper cam because it's the only view that comes with a rear view mirror. No other reason.

@mikeschmitt4957 6 месяцев назад

Thank you for this information

@Kireth 6 месяцев назад

thank u for this comment

@nsp5258 6 месяцев назад

Bumper or cockpit cam are by far the best overlays in this game if your on a wheel. There is technically no difference in fov between the cockpit/bumper and bonnet. So from an fov perspective which is by far the most important detail for immersion, bumper and cockpit are the best by far and still leave a lot to be desired as far as realism due to any real adjustments in the game. There are great videos out there on FOV if you actually want a proper understanding of how to get an immersive sim racing experience on a 2d screen. Psvr2 by far takes the cake with gt7 though, I've not played the game without it since I got mine.

@madsnorway0251 5 месяцев назад

In acc you can adjust ur sight inside your car. In gt its limited and not enaugh. But anyways not to brag but i drive just as good in firstperson, roof and hood view. Its not an issue for me. Just gotta look around more inside the car to look for people beside you. And teach ur cars width…

@kiblanjofski 6 месяцев назад

People complain about views but when I go in my cockpit view and max out the FoV so i can see 180° around me, then they complain again, just drive as you wish and that's fine, haters gonna hate, you can't and never will please them all, for instance I like the chase cam

@NinjaNovice 6 месяцев назад

Third person view is like you're controlling an RC (radio controlled) car and not actually driving anymore. If you don't use a wheel and you use third person view, then I'd say it's closer to the Matchbox cars video game; that only has third person view. Races should have equal view. I only want to race against other people in VR2. The VR2 view is even more limited in that the road, corners, other cars, etc. will all be more out of view than on the bumper cam, roof view, and third person views from flat screen. I'm only in it for the full immersion. To each their own. If third person makes you happy, great. But I do believe it's unfair to allow people to drive with different views. Same view (whatever it is) should be how the races are set up.

@Reynolds730 6 месяцев назад

Dude, I can't drive in anything but bumper cam. I've tried and an easy slower in every other view. Also bumper cam has the added advantage of the best rear view mirror in GT7. I disagree that other views give the advantage of knowing where the car is versus track limits. That is solved with practice.

@Riotdrone 6 месяцев назад

hood camera is the best for me. so much easier to read what the car is doing than third person

@michaelmonstar4276 Месяц назад

Problem is, you don't really get the feel of the car (at least I don't) when your head isn't "center" of it. Having it stuck to the hood is just that, like you would be putting your head there, being thrusted forward by this machine. But if you have the camera set properly near the head-rest (and not the often default face-to-the-wheel, which is why people hate it), you can get that "being one with the vehicle" feeling and get a better feel and control over it. At least I do. - I feel way too awkward and "detached" with some weird mounted camera and suddenly using a wheel doesn't make sense to me.

@nickn8812 6 месяцев назад

Driving in 3rd person is just wrong...especially with a wheel just seems demented to me...Unrealistic. 3rd person is for using a controller no one driving a real car on the road or track wants to be driving their car in 3rd person. In ACC you can move your seat in any way you want so you can bring it forward if u want. Also you can bring FOV in and with tripple monitors it will restore the wide field of view. Best of both worlds. Oh I forgot... Can't do any of that on console.. What a shame 😅

@smoothlyrough512 6 месяцев назад

Proof people will cry over ANYTHING. If you think it's cheating, don't use it, I'll continue cheating. 🤦

@bryangk42 6 месяцев назад

Does GT7 allow for FOV changes in cockpit view? It looks like the FOV is all wrong and pushing whats down the track to be smaller than it should appear IRL. I use cockpit view just because I like to be a realistic as possible. But ultimately at the end of the day I can't see how it's cheating if any of these camera views are available to everyone. If it's faster or "cheating" then use the bonnet camera, or the roof camera, use it all to your advantage to be faster on track.