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Episode 738 - They Smile In Your Face feat. Corey Robin (6/5/23)
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Today we’re joined by Professor Corey Robin, author of "The Reactionary Mind" and "The Enigma of Clarence Thomas," for a conversation all about one of the most powerful reactionaries in the world: Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas. We discuss the origins and contours of his conservative ideology, and how they reflect the development of race, class, law, power, conservatism and liberalism over his lifetime.
You can pick up "The Enigma of Clarence Thomas" here: us.macmillan.com/books/978162...
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@Mark-jr6ld
@Mark-jr6ld Год назад
Uncle Clarence Tom Sowell X just practices the dark side of black girl magic
@joshuamarx8209
@joshuamarx8209 Год назад
A true sorcerer in the Yakubian arts.
@robsands6656
@robsands6656 Год назад
You have to be sliding an open briefcase stacked with money across a desk and laughing maniacally to get caught with a bribery or corruption charge in this joke of a country.
@dangerousd1312
@dangerousd1312 Год назад
even then, conservatives will cope and make up a story to exonerate them. see january 6
@Gum_Cuzzler
@Gum_Cuzzler Год назад
It’s pretty common for ethnic nationalists of all stripes to be open to relationships with women of other races. Like the alt right fetishes Jewish women, Latinas, and Asian girls all the time. The real thing they take issue with is women of their own race having sexual encounters or relationships outside it.
@Praisethesunson
@Praisethesunson Год назад
Exactly. It's good old misogyny. These men want access to as many women as possible. The only option they want for women, is those racist men.
@TheOfficialVIDI
@TheOfficialVIDI Год назад
@@Praisethesunson It's also not always the case that race purity (in their wierdo ethnonationalist context) is compromised by male heads marrying women of other ethnicities, sometimes it's seen as expanding the race/diminishing others. Source: balkan lul
@cryptbeast3222
@cryptbeast3222 Год назад
I would also add that he may not view his relationship being a major deal since he never had children with her. To a lot of people against interracial relationships or flings often make an exception if there are no kids from it.
@xalrath
@xalrath Год назад
"segregated communes, integrated bedrooms," i've heard it called before it's a pretty common trend in these spaces, something about fearing and also personally desperately wanting to fuck the Other
@ozymandias___868
@ozymandias___868 Год назад
I see you got the message from my lawyers Mr.Chapo. This episode is over an hour long as I asked for. Keep it up or you'll hear from my lawyers again Mr.Chapo.
@bobbie3713
@bobbie3713 Год назад
that challenge is of DUBIOUS LEGALITY
@julymagnus493
@julymagnus493 Год назад
Thank you for fighting for us. The last episode sucked and this one was fantastic. You're really doing God's work, or Yahweh, as your lawyers would probably say.
@GenoAtkins
@GenoAtkins Год назад
Goooooooorka!
@thomaspollack7451
@thomaspollack7451 Год назад
@@julymagnus493 nah lawyers are atheists and satanists 👺
@binghamtonblows
@binghamtonblows Год назад
Get em rusty
@2009worstyearever
@2009worstyearever Год назад
Will is such an Upper East sider intellectual kid - the most excited he get is about gossip. "How does Clarance Thomas fuck"
@adamrutherford8523
@adamrutherford8523 Год назад
It's fascinating how boring and stupid the evil of Clarence Thomas is.
@joshuamarx8209
@joshuamarx8209 Год назад
A real Sambo; if you will...
@GoblinGuard
@GoblinGuard Год назад
@@joshuamarx8209no
@joshuamarx8209
@joshuamarx8209 Год назад
@@GoblinGuard yes
@joshuamarx8209
@joshuamarx8209 Год назад
@@GoblinGuard Moron, read Uncle Tom's Cabin and tell me this asshole isn't an exact copy of the novel's character Sambo.
@OrangeStrayCat
@OrangeStrayCat Год назад
I feel like Thomas's beliefs are just a string of personal excuses for him being a hate filled prick who never met anyone he didn't want to see pay for something.
@thomaspollack7451
@thomaspollack7451 Год назад
Me when I'm feeling like a third worldist 🐸
@supermarx
@supermarx Год назад
The real joke is the idea black nationalists were ever of the left.
@nicoles3166
@nicoles3166 Год назад
@@supermarx stfu next you’re gonna say black nationalism is just like white nationalism did ya forget about self determination?
@Taurox220
@Taurox220 Год назад
I love that they point out how stupid the criticism of him not asking questions was.
@ringo8410
@ringo8410 Год назад
For those who are enjoying this look at Thomas' viewpoints, I can't recommend enough a video by F.D Signifier: "The REAL Faces of Black Conservatism". It's a long video; even longer than this one. But FD goes into the ideology of people who think similarly to Clarence Thomas and why they think that way. I think it's a good companion to this Chapo episode.
@southparkking2
@southparkking2 Год назад
F.D.'s video was chad shit. Good to understand the nuance of how reactionary culture can get into the oppressed. Hell just seeing this mindset reminds me of my father (poc father, white mom). That cynical futility is especially a moment that hits too close to home.
@Dawt_Calm
@Dawt_Calm Год назад
Thnks for the recommend. An hour in, lot there I hadn't considered.
@Radjhitoocool
@Radjhitoocool Год назад
Oh so he’s like a hotep guy that’s Christian instead of Muslim
@Radjhitoocool
@Radjhitoocool Год назад
@@sisyphus1326 i’ve been hearing him out he’s made his position very clear with his rulings. I just assumed he was your average black conservative but the black separatist roots were new info to me. But considering how old he is I should’ve known
@condor237
@condor237 Год назад
Kanye is a Christian hotep
@joshuamarx8209
@joshuamarx8209 Год назад
Even more disgusting and pathetic, except he's got authentic power.
@FunkMcLovin
@FunkMcLovin Год назад
I dont see the "god felix is so unfunny" guy. Can someone do a wellness check on him 😢
@dameongeppetto
@dameongeppetto Год назад
His therapy has been working. Felix's humor has been less forced lately, so no need to diss him. Only haters whine about everything. #makeKarensrightwingagain
@banjo304
@banjo304 Год назад
I consider myself deputy "Felix is unfunny" guy and I'm worried about him
@berdyderg900
@berdyderg900 Год назад
I don't get fake internet niceness, just say you're glad hes dead lol
@sheriffliberty9302
@sheriffliberty9302 Год назад
The "Planned Parenthood is a Margaret Sanger plot to kill black people" were common conservative Facebook memes in like the late 2000s
@technologic21
@technologic21 Год назад
In Thomas's view, individual freedom and rights are determined by how deep one's pockets are. One is only as 'free' as one can afford. That is NOT freedom, that is tyranny. He views human liberty and rights as commodities, to be acquired and administered through the medium of capital, bought and sold. This strongly contradicts his life's lived experiences, with regards to the oppression, slavery and murder of his ancestors. There is a deep pessimism, self-loathing, and resentment. One is reminded of the historical trauma some Jews probably felt, being forced to hose down the bodies of their kin in the camps. To really put it into perspective: Stephen meeting Django for the first time.
@JDMPhil87
@JDMPhil87 Год назад
That’s the long run attitude of bourgeois society. He is thinking as intended…
@technologic21
@technologic21 Год назад
​@@JDMPhil87 ​ yup, he's helping perpetuate a morally and ethically bankrupt system, its allowed him to exert his bourgeoise resentment onto other groups of people, now he's cracking the whip.
@condor237
@condor237 Год назад
Rights are commodities. There is no such thing as god given rights, anything can be given and taken. Be in a near death experience and you’ll realize this
@technologic21
@technologic21 Год назад
​@@condor237 horseshit, atomized take. Humans and their rights aren't commodities, they are universal. The defense of them is required in the face of tyranny, that's the prime example of a near life experience, sacrifice. The pathology you've employed here appears to justify tyranny, slavery, exploitation and its agents. Capitalism is as it does, and what it does is destroy everything around and within it.
@joshuamarx8209
@joshuamarx8209 Год назад
@@technologic21 Yeah the suburban slobs in the West gave up on any kind of human solidarity a loooooong goddamn time ago. It's fucking nuts.
@BigHomieGayAss1917
@BigHomieGayAss1917 Год назад
Corey in the House, the Trap House with El Chapo that is
@corylarsen5788
@corylarsen5788 Год назад
Thanks for having Corey Robin on again
@gandalftheincontinent5252
@gandalftheincontinent5252 Год назад
Fantastic discussion guys, thanks for putting it up.
@verysurvival
@verysurvival Год назад
Am I the only one that thinks driving your RV to a beach is normal but camping in Walmart parking lots is bizarre? He is so abnormal Thomas doesn’t even realize visiting the beach on holiday is the most normal thing possible, making a safari of Walmarts is weird AF
@Gum_Cuzzler
@Gum_Cuzzler Год назад
A lot of people with RVs stay in Walmart parking lots because it’s just a free place to spend the night. It’s not too uncommon or weird honestly.
@verysurvival
@verysurvival Год назад
@@Gum_Cuzzler fair enough. I live in Sweden so I guess that's why I think it is weird.
@bigbrother787
@bigbrother787 Год назад
@@Gum_Cuzzler ​That's like saying people being homeless isn't uncommon and weird. It's not, but most people don't *chose* to be homeless. Choosing to be homeless would be 'bizarre'. That's the point. Most people don't stay in the Walmart parking lot because they want to, it's because they can't afford to stay anywhere else. Thus, *choosing* to stay in a Walmart parking lot *for a vacation* is utterly bizarre.
@Gum_Cuzzler
@Gum_Cuzzler Год назад
@@bigbrother787 I mean, spending the whole vacation in a walmart parking lot is definitely weird but spending a night or two isn’t . I’m just saying for people who live or trip in vans and RVs spending a couple nights in Walmart parking lot when you enter a new place before you get the lay of the land isn’t weird.
@djangoturismo
@djangoturismo Год назад
@@Gum_Cuzzler that's not what he's saying, he says he prefers the Wal-Mart parking lot to the beach. The truth is you stay for the night, locking everything up as tight as possible, then in the morning you leave. Saying you enjoy Walmart parking lots is more indicative of having never actually stayed in one.
@AdrianMendoza23
@AdrianMendoza23 Год назад
This brotha is crazy. Thomas' philosophy is such a cold, lonely, angry, petty one.
@Vscustomprinting
@Vscustomprinting Год назад
Affluence (power) can lead to inflammation in the frontal lobe.. Its like ptsd, another inflammatory condition related to autoimmune function, but affects hardwired empathetic responses. You see similar degradation in substance abuse.. the way these conditions manifest is arbitrary, not to mention practically infinitely variable. Plenty of dots to connect through neurology and primate studies to elucidate the predictability of sociological outcomes.. as well as how bullshit we all are; things are mundane and we dissent from that.
@SinclairPoppins
@SinclairPoppins Год назад
I’m going to make taco mix and enjoy burritos and tacos for the next few days. Already have ground beef.
@ChewyThomson
@ChewyThomson Год назад
Hell yeah king 👑
@zyguit
@zyguit Год назад
Inspiring
@footballpharaoh5469
@footballpharaoh5469 Год назад
Wow, Thomas' vision is so dark, I actually kind of feel sorry for him....He actually is a victim of internalized hopelessness...A victim who aims to spread misery to others, wittingly or unwittingly, but still a victim.
@kevingriener7441
@kevingriener7441 Год назад
Plenty of victims don't become sociopaths with the deaths of millions on their hands.
@Ricky-Spanish
@Ricky-Spanish Год назад
I found myself feeling oddly sympathetic towards him too. Behind every monster there's often a tragic backstory.
@technologic21
@technologic21 Год назад
"A young Jedi named Darth Vader, who was a pupil of mine until he turned to evil - helped the Empire hunt down and destroy the Jedi Knights..."
@KarmaPaym3ntPlan
@KarmaPaym3ntPlan Год назад
24:46 🗣️
@condor237
@condor237 Год назад
Boohoo sad black man 😂
@legzdiamond2356
@legzdiamond2356 Год назад
How was he born into poverty with a grandfather who made good in fuel oil and property ownership?
@Praisethesunson
@Praisethesunson Год назад
Cause grandpa didn't like to share and beat conservative shame into Thomas.
@legzdiamond2356
@legzdiamond2356 Год назад
@@Praisethesunson I see. You’d think the take-away’d be “Gosh, capitalists are cruel and belligerent” or “fuck me, money makes people weird”. Anything but “I’d like to make my living softening the legal exposure of people like gramps”. The essential strangeness of CT is staggering.
@calisto789
@calisto789 Год назад
Because his only customers were incredibly poor black people
@90sStarterJacket
@90sStarterJacket Год назад
Legit thought that was Herman Cain
@soseumaen
@soseumaen Год назад
watched the first 10 minutes or so of like an hour-long Thomas Sowell video not knowing who he was a while ago, and you can tell he spent a little time in the Marxist tradition because he starts with bits and pieces of a dialectical materialist framework but then comes to the conclusion that capitalism is the liberating force anyway
@ultravioletiris6241
@ultravioletiris6241 Год назад
Some of the Sowell clips that go viral are shockingly racist
@thomaspollack7451
@thomaspollack7451 Год назад
He's a national socialist. That's what they do
@thomaspollack7451
@thomaspollack7451 Год назад
​@@ultravioletiris6241noooo you misunderstand him. He thinks the "degeneracy of black culture" was absorbed from poor scots. He's a pure classist sir.
@akumakorgar
@akumakorgar Год назад
@@thomaspollack7451 The notion of "degeneracy" as a cultural phenomenon in isolation is a fascist concept. Leftists understand that societies are shaped by the economic realities that lie under them as a foundation
@thomaspollack7451
@thomaspollack7451 Год назад
​@@akumakorgaryep.and educated fascists have class first politics
@chazblank2717
@chazblank2717 Год назад
It’s always very funny seeing comments from the people here who clearly never had public radio in their lives 😁
@dangerousd1312
@dangerousd1312 Год назад
the similarities between thomas and kanye west are pretty interesting
@technologic21
@technologic21 Год назад
Thomas is the institutionalzed form of black nationalism, racism and injustice. He's right at home alongside the white nationalists that permeate the swamp. Nothing brings people together more than mutual hatred. Two peas in a pod.
@cornerstore_d
@cornerstore_d Год назад
Good show. Black nationalism is different in America because there was never any national identity to strive for. Garvey rode on a wave of new African history that was popular at the time, but also real in the division of Africa colonies after ww1. He was neutralized by the state not because he opened some businesses in Harlem, but for the threat of labor organizing in the Carribean. Islam became the next thing because it offered a historical narrative. When the NOI became a business and malcom went against that, we know what happened. Du Bois ended up a communist in exile because he was constantly rebuked by white instituions. I can imagine a similar fate for Thomas if a few things go differently for him, and vice versa.
@Radjhitoocool
@Radjhitoocool Год назад
Afro pessimism is a new word to me. I thought I was just seeing reality lol
@dangerousd1312
@dangerousd1312 Год назад
it’s a great description of these ideas. i hear these arguments all the time by old heads and never knew how to put it to words
@Radjhitoocool
@Radjhitoocool Год назад
@@dangerousd1312 my old heads just say they’re Jamaican not American and America hates black people. Make money and return home kinda thing
@condor237
@condor237 Год назад
Afro pessimism? Lmao they have to make up new academic terms for black people being sad 😂
@Radjhitoocool
@Radjhitoocool Год назад
@@condor237 I kinda get it tho. It’s like black people have a materialist reason to be more pessimistic towards American politics compared to other groups. A white supremacist could be just as pessimistic but they’re complaining from a more unfounded place
@Radjhitoocool
@Radjhitoocool Год назад
@@sisyphus1326 I feel like I’ve been hearing different versions of it since I was born
@undeniablyfunk5497
@undeniablyfunk5497 Год назад
East coast sigma grindset kings in this comment section
@nicolev2028
@nicolev2028 Год назад
to quote sonic youth i believe anita hill the judge can rot in hell
@zachflame123
@zachflame123 Год назад
Black identitarian thought was right wing and Thomas is still right wing today. Not much change
@howwitty
@howwitty Год назад
Excellent to know that the children are the future of this country.
@jnakhoul
@jnakhoul Год назад
The wolf, the fox, and the lap dog
@joeyhause8077
@joeyhause8077 Год назад
I just want to smoke to new Chapo
@dangerousd1312
@dangerousd1312 Год назад
cheers
@alancham4
@alancham4 Год назад
This is all overthinking it. Thomas got his. After you sell your soul, then your only comfort is excuses about how you had no other choice because that’s the way the world works.🤷‍♂️
@emmy8526
@emmy8526 Год назад
That 'painting' Harlan Crow commissioned just captures this perfectly, ironically. Just a bunch of fat cats sitting around divvying up the country. And if Thomas wasn’t a SC Justice, he wouldn’t be there.
@Matt-ru5rw
@Matt-ru5rw Год назад
Yep, some lib professor over thinking people that want to just be rich and shit on other people.
@keithjackewicz8423
@keithjackewicz8423 Год назад
@@Matt-ru5rw Socialism is not about flattening and simplifying motivations into a flat friend/enemy distinction.
@Matt-ru5rw
@Matt-ru5rw Год назад
@@keithjackewicz8423 Thanks, while you circle jerk about not flattening the motivations you can be flaccid for 60 years like Chomsky. Useless would be the black and white wording of it.
@totonow6955
@totonow6955 Год назад
Watch out parking in Wal-Mart parking lots. That may not be the free benefit that Thomas sells anymore.
@jaydinledford6990
@jaydinledford6990 Год назад
"uncle Thomas" copywrite that immediately please
@johnanderson8714
@johnanderson8714 Год назад
Great stuff
@nathanialmynameisajoke
@nathanialmynameisajoke Год назад
Champagne sharks had this guy on YEARS ago
@noahklinger7083
@noahklinger7083 Год назад
26:00 The high schooler's name is Cedric Jennings. Ron Suskind wrote a whole book about him.
@henfencey5751
@henfencey5751 17 дней назад
16:48 Thats literally true though. Wage labor won out against slavery in the civil war. That's the whole reason the war happened to begin with. Not that we should celebrate modern capitalism though
@Hamun002
@Hamun002 Год назад
damn, I'm smarter than Supreme Court Justice, who would have thought. still broke though, he is better at securing the bag, can't beat him at that
@Praisethesunson
@Praisethesunson Год назад
The man climbed up the ladder to grab to bag. Then kicked down the ladder so no one else comes after.
@Hamun002
@Hamun002 Год назад
@@Praisethesunson He didn’t just kick the ladder down he bombed the ladder and bombed everyone building another ladder
@basedgamerguy818
@basedgamerguy818 Год назад
@@Praisethesunson well to be fair he kinda bypassed the ladder with affirmative action and he's been bitter about it his whole life
@jq9056
@jq9056 Год назад
first, i’m really fucking gay
@thomaspollack7451
@thomaspollack7451 Год назад
Kinda sus dude?
@ananousous
@ananousous Год назад
Deuteronomy, givе my ass a lobotomy That's sodomy, diggin' deep, archaeology My theology, I like to know that Hе's watchin' me Fulfill me up like a prophecy, put the fear of God in me
@lilid95
@lilid95 Год назад
46:00
@reddeserted13
@reddeserted13 Год назад
Sounds like James Brown conservatism. He loved his Georgia Bulldogs, folks.
@campfortson4387
@campfortson4387 Год назад
Vince Dooley's junkyard dawgs baby
@reddeserted13
@reddeserted13 Год назад
@@campfortson4387 You know what I'm talmbout
@coreygolpheneee
@coreygolpheneee Год назад
Which is frankly, the coolest form of conservative
@Mannydamon
@Mannydamon Год назад
No audio in the video. Fix it please
@Mannydamon
@Mannydamon Год назад
Thanks, fixed! You guys are great 👍
@bunyipz2040
@bunyipz2040 Год назад
No watch the train for an hour
@zainmudassir2964
@zainmudassir2964 Год назад
🙂
@bunyipz2040
@bunyipz2040 Год назад
God Felix is so unfunny, oh wait
@SUPERBURLBOYROY
@SUPERBURLBOYROY Год назад
If you split the money evenly poors will stop shoplifting.
@thomaspollack7451
@thomaspollack7451 Год назад
I won't
@SUPERBURLBOYROY
@SUPERBURLBOYROY Год назад
@@thomaspollack7451 we got security footage of you stealing DNA at the sperm bank 🏧 you're going straight to prison Mr Pollack.
@condor237
@condor237 Год назад
They wear $2k shoes while shoplifting. I don’t think money is the problem
@miskatonic_alumni
@miskatonic_alumni Год назад
​@Condor I don't think I've ever met someone that spent 2k on shoes. But even assuming for a moment that your bare assertion is true, what is the problem in your opinion?
@SUPERBURLBOYROY
@SUPERBURLBOYROY Год назад
Ya maybe they stole the shoes hey
@legzdiamond2356
@legzdiamond2356 Год назад
How is it not a critical intellectual shortcoming to fail to grasp the importance of the political sphere? Black, white, capitalist, socialist…Whatever the nature of the cohort, failing to activate in political spaces by political means puts that cohort at a disadvantage. The idea that black peoples can somehow operate effectively as capitalists without political capital and without political acumen is so absurd, one would think it embarrassing to give voice to it. It’s like telling somebody “just sail. Pay no attention to the ocean, it’s currents, the weather, your ship, it’s fittings, your charts, destination…”. I refuse to accept that Thomas really believes in this ridiculous concept.
@Praisethesunson
@Praisethesunson Год назад
It doesn't have to make sense. It serves the interests of the existing power structures. So that brand of BS is allowed
@genericyoutubeaccount579
@genericyoutubeaccount579 Год назад
The Irish tried to get the middle class lifestyle through politics and it took them a long ass time. The Italians got the middle class lifestyle by ignoring politics and going into business.
@legzdiamond2356
@legzdiamond2356 Год назад
@@genericyoutubeaccount579 I’m not sure that’s accurate. Boston’s machine politics were pretty much an Irish enterprise, and for a while every cop on both coasts was an Irishman. As for Italians, the black hand was as much a political organization as the DNC for a looooong time. I think both Irish and Italian nationals used politics to their advantage as regards class struggle. Also, I’m not saying it’s impossible to for black folks to succeed in business without a political interest to back their play. I’m saying for Thomas to suggest / believe that blacks should turn their backs on politics and just seek capitalist means to secure the future is ignorant at best. If white capitalists and black capitalists are competing for market share, and white capitalists cultivate political capital to bolster their ascendancy where black people don’t, the white people are going to win the market by legislating to destroy the black people. Don’t take my word for it. Like the man said: “Look out any window”.
@basedgamerguy818
@basedgamerguy818 Год назад
@@genericyoutubeaccount579 yes "business"
@Will_Moffett
@Will_Moffett 11 месяцев назад
The reason Thomas discourages black high scool students from attending prestigious schools is not, as Robin claims, because Thomas has concerns about liberal softcore racism. It's because Thomas knows those students are likely to lean Left politically and he doesn't want who he sees as his rivals to be empowered with a degree from an elite school. Taking what Thomas says about his motivations on face value is a critical mistake in trying to understand him.
@warmlycalculated390
@warmlycalculated390 Год назад
slightly better than the Goop interview, amirite?
@supermarx
@supermarx Год назад
Questionable.
@factanonverba7547
@factanonverba7547 Год назад
First not gay
@thomaspollack7451
@thomaspollack7451 Год назад
Suuuure
@factanonverba7547
@factanonverba7547 Год назад
​@@thomaspollack7451 "and don't call me surely"
@66Nexus
@66Nexus Год назад
"ya know"
@iamcino
@iamcino 2 месяца назад
294 times
@michaeljordaniii2039
@michaeljordaniii2039 Год назад
I imagine the hosts all blushed when the guest correctly called out the “do it because you’ll lose” left wing moralism considering they made that exact speech multiple times during the bernie campaign
@alecjones4676
@alecjones4676 Год назад
Just so you know, admitting you're wrong does not make you a weak or unintelligent person
@c.andrew3944
@c.andrew3944 Год назад
It's not that it's pointless to have morals be a part of your political movement, it's just that it's not going to capture as many people as one might naively hope when self interest is the prime motivation.
@0ptimuscrime
@0ptimuscrime Год назад
When they made that threat on the skullduggery podcast, it felt like they jinxed something. The DNC knew that Bernie’s base weren’t going to just disengage from politics that easily.
@Vscustomprinting
@Vscustomprinting Год назад
Some good points, but they dont address the fact that you cant fix a flawed system from the inside. That would be giving in to cataloging as a distraction. You are also arguing from a flawed position by rationalizing the personal feelings of others. These are the product of decades of middle ground fallacy utilized to push national economic interests. Everything we "talk" about is just a distraction from our refusal to deal with our addiction to affluence. Thus your paralleled dueling from left/right football politics due to their connecting fundamental flaw.
@thomaspollack7451
@thomaspollack7451 Год назад
Cornell West and the People's Party 2024!
@undeniablyfunk5497
@undeniablyfunk5497 Год назад
Hell yes
@thomaspollack7451
@thomaspollack7451 Год назад
​@@undeniablyfunk5497they're taking donations and volunteers. This will be my first to do either and I'm so fucking hype
@undeniablyfunk5497
@undeniablyfunk5497 Год назад
It’s pavement pounding time!
@thomaspollack7451
@thomaspollack7451 Год назад
And as a little personal treat this will help force the fake leftists in our lives to admit that they were always just Dems who talk too much :)
@nohbuddy1
@nohbuddy1 Год назад
They have no ballot access. Good luck paying into a grift
@cathyosbourne6986
@cathyosbourne6986 Год назад
Read a comment that says you don't get into his wife so I won't bother listening
@cyberspace667
@cyberspace667 Год назад
Based Clarence Thomas
@Will_Moffett
@Will_Moffett Год назад
This isn't the right take on Clarence Thomas. Sorry. Ultimately it doesn't predict his actions or reconcile them and you can just dismiss that and call him an enigma. It's a good effort in that it focuses on Clarence's personal history vis-a-vis race, but ultimately it is way too generous to Thomas's character and motivations. Thomas takes the same basic orientation to society as Obama, and neither of them are anything much more than extremely cynical nihilists who became that way because that is how the inescapable hopelessness of being black in America manifests itself in many of those black men who happen to be born with brilliant minds. Neither Obama or Thomas actually have ideological beliefs. They are just playing their avatars. They are trying to optimize what they can get for themselves and the reactions they can get by way of their manipulations like the main character at the end of The Stranger. Both of them gave up on this society sometime after college after getting a taste of real life as a black men in a prison of white perception of them in lieu of a physical prison.
@yevheniyamachnovsky3472
@yevheniyamachnovsky3472 Год назад
You really don't think this take at all is a way of reconciling or considering this cynical nihilism in the broader context, and how specifically it could be formed? I mean you think that waving your hand and going "eh it's just cynical nihilism" is a great insight, or?
@ILoveEvadingTax
@ILoveEvadingTax Год назад
i really don't know how you listen to the episode and come away with this. it couldn't be more obvious that clarence thomas _did_ have very strong ideological beliefs and things like that don't go away overnight, it's a historical development like any other. you can dismiss most things on the grounds of pure cynicism but leaving it at that is just intellectually lazy
@Will_Moffett
@Will_Moffett Год назад
@@yevheniyamachnovsky3472 How am I waving my hand when I positing how he arrived at cynical nihilism? While I don't consider mine a great insight I think, unfortunately, it helps to be black to see it. And I'm not one of those people who seeks to preserve some cultural divide between black and white people. I'm pro cultural appropriation which I see as the main benefit of living in a diverse society. I don't see a substantive difference between black people eating Asian cuisine and white people wearing dreads. I'm absolutely not saying it's a black thing and you can never understand, but I do think I have a little insight here which is somewhat rarefied but still shareable. And I know that by identifying myself as a black person it instantly devalues what I am saying in your mind which, ironically, supports my point. There is posited some kind of promised land for black people which they can get to if they run this intellectual gauntlet. Like if you pass the tests of merit one of the rewards is some segment of white people will see you as equal and you will be granted some social mobility. What actually happens if you get there, however, is a "reward" you get is a vantagepoint on American racism that sees it take on the character of like a Mandlebrot or fractal graph, like the closer you examine it the deeper layers of racism and this never ends. Thomas (and Obama) looked at this and said ok white people are broken, but they run everything, so eff it. I was trying to be measured in my critique of Robin, but actually it's absurd to think anything Thomas is doing is driven by an unbroken connection to his black militant youth. Thomas is a living troll. He doesn't believe, at all, in anything he is doing and makes that clear to those open to hearing it. He hates black people. He hates white people. He is the end boss in the game Racism, which in his mind is better than being a player in that game and his way of acknowledging that it can't be beat.
@Will_Moffett
@Will_Moffett Год назад
@@ILoveEvadingTax In my experience, and this agrees with academic studies on the subject, the consistent thing about people is the strength of their beliefs, not the beliefs themselves. Recall that the author explained how Thomas made a drastic change in beliefs among entering school when encountering that new environment. He simply did that again when he got into the real world. I'm saying that cynical nihilism is Thomas's belief system, explicitly. Nihilism isn't having no beliefs. It's believing in not having beliefs. Thomas believes that white people have constructed a social world where beliefs don't matter and he curses himself for ever being so stupid in believing in the white fabrication that they do matter.
@christophergiofreda564
@christophergiofreda564 Год назад
@@Will_Moffett, thoughtful comment. Thank you.
@mattmahler9756
@mattmahler9756 Год назад
How do you "not get into" his wife? The existence of their marriage refutes 80% of what they're talking about.
@berdyderg900
@berdyderg900 Год назад
Disagree, tons of white supremacists fetishize asian women or whatever. Slave owners regularly proved your point wrong sexually assaulting their slaves also.
@xalrath
@xalrath Год назад
the thoughts "our peoples are eternal enemies, who must be separated from one another if we are to thrive" and "oh man the thought of fucking one of them is so hot" have always been close to one another. 'arab porn' was not a category before 9/11, and there's a reason the English have always been nauseatingly horny for the French
@gapsule2326
@gapsule2326 Год назад
How?
@basedgamerguy818
@basedgamerguy818 Год назад
@@xalrath the English are horny for the french for a different reason. It isn't because of the taboo but because the English are pretty repressed sexually and the french are comparatively sexually liberated
@nicoles3166
@nicoles3166 Год назад
nah look at dr umar
@nicoles3166
@nicoles3166 Год назад
just started but clarence sounds very influenced by garveyism
@World_Wide_Web_Wyyzrd
@World_Wide_Web_Wyyzrd Год назад
First. Also I’m gay
@glorpfruncus2180
@glorpfruncus2180 Год назад
Not first bro damn that must feel pretty bad
@ozymandias___868
@ozymandias___868 Год назад
and my
@World_Wide_Web_Wyyzrd
@World_Wide_Web_Wyyzrd Год назад
@@glorpfruncus2180 eh whatevz
@rf3471
@rf3471 Год назад
Stav would be proud of you
@metrodonkey8093
@metrodonkey8093 Год назад
i'm a big fan
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