_me back then:_ this was based on a Middle Eastern show, so it'll be fair and balaced towards Islam _me now:_ this was based on an Israeli show, so no wonder it was Islamophobic af
if you cant understand how using money made from preaching socialism to buy a mansion fundamentally undermines the movement at its core, as one of its biggest public figures, then idk what to tell you. much love
@@purplism4857 Yeah comrade!, socialism is when you are virtuous and poor, exclusively wear tattered rags and trash bags, and live in a hole you have dug in the woods. Look, I don't even watch Hasan. But the dude made a lot of money, without stealing the surplus value of a workforce's labour by ~virtue~ of owning the means of production. He didn't undermine socialist ideals at all. Unless you consider "experiencing success" to be a betrayal. I'm not a fan of flash cars and huge mansions, but that just means i'd be spending that money of different, but equally frivolous stuff in his position. Honestly, it makes socialism look bad when you act like being able to obtain luxury items is antithetical to it's principles. Don't play into the stereotype that leftists want to create a drab, joyless, world where everyone is equally miserable. What would you have him do instead? give it all away to [CAUSE YOU LIKE]? if that's such a grand moral imperative, why aren't you doing that? you definitely own things that you don't need, why didn't you donate that money instead? How much would he have to give away before he got back in your good graces?
@@PumkRock his checks are being written by jeff bezos, and his platform exists because his uncle runs a billionaire funded corporate media network masquerading as anti-establishment. just because someone says "public ownership of the means of production" every so often does not make them a socialist lol. and making money isn't even really the problem so much as spending it on a mansion and a luxurious lifestyle, and since consumerism is the beating heart of the capitalist dilemma, it does fundamentally undermine everything he preaches to live in such a way. not to mention he has some pretty imperialistic takes and is moderate when it comes to real action.
@@PumkRock there is nuance though, socialism is not when no house, socialism is certainly not when driving his newly bought porsche down skidrow and laughing at the peasants. do you really just have to say "marx is based" to justify your hyper-consumerist capitalist lifestyle? what a joke, its just a rich white circlejerk to pretend they give a shit about the rest of the world.
God the ending of this episode was depressing. I remember libs back in 2000-2008 talking about how GWB was the worst president ever and basically evil incarnate. Then Obama got elected and we just forgot about him.
The only analogy that makes any goddamn sense for bourgie electoral politics in the US is pro wrestling. It's all fucking kayfabe designed to trick the working class into thinking the two main parties aren't essentially a ruling coalition that's captured 99.5% of the federal and all local and state governments, if not a single neoliberal party with two rival factions that loudly disagree over the details. Pro-wrestling kayfabe has sufficient explanatory power for the "never-Trumper" GOP phenomenon: I can think of hardly any other context to explain the likes of Dubya doing a heel-face turn without actually changing his politics or interrogating his own role in creating the massive surveillance and homeland security infrastructure Trump inherited. Likewise, the pro wrestling analogy perfectly explains rotating villains like Manchinema (or Joe Lieberman back in 2009-2010) scoring what look like own goals against the Democrats: 8 other senators are also "blue dog" fiscal hawks but only 1 or 2 are needed to openly oppose bills like BBB to make it look like Schumer can't get them passed without Republican support. Mapping the rotating villain phenomenon to the "team sports" analogy doesn't work: an NFL player who deliberately and openly throws the football for the opposing team to catch, and who makes a show of going out of his way to grief his own team, would get sacked _very_ quickly. At no point have I heard talk of censuring Manchin or Sinema, or outright expelling them from the party, for this sort of open sabotage. No, party discipline only exists as a force to suppress succdem House Dems like AOC who actually want to score victories for working-class voters, but who fail to recognize that they're essentially Stone Cold acting as controlled opposition for Vince McMahon.
@@discountchocolate4577 hey I've been touting this idea for a long time elderly MMA let's make Donald Trump fight Barack Obama and whoever wins gets to be the king of the blacks
I think another example of fucked up Muslim representation from that era was the Muslims on Lost. Sayid, one of the main characters, worked for the Iraqi military as like a torturer. He betrays the Iraqis to the US military to relocate with his gf and by """"pure coincidence"""" he just so happens to run into an old friend of his living in Australia and he tries to recruit Sayid into a terrorist attack they're planning on the Syndney opera house. Sayids a well written character and Lost is a great show, but god it has that early 2000s energy when it comes to how it portrays Muslims.
I remember watching thiswhen it was airing. I was I guess what you can say right leaning libertarian and even at the time I was like "Yeah but like, you cant just walk around thinking all Muslims are still loyal to the country they came from, that is definitely wrong and sounds like the antisemetic trope of dual allegiances" and I think it triggered a sleeper agent liberal in me, lol. Thank Ayn Rand that my copy of Atlas Shrugged was there to remind me I must not stray from my ways. Such horrible literature. She died a leech on the state according to her definition, as she had social security,
I would have been a libertarian if I could find a copy of Atlas Shrugged in my tiny local library. Unfortunately I could not and the world was saved another sub-stack blogger
The discussion of mental illness, identity politics and the portrayal of the CIA in this episode gets me wanting to hear the boys talking about Inside Job (the Netflix animated series)
I love that one,!!!!! One of, if not the best new cartoon's made, since Aquateen Hunger Force!! I realize the latter is of the ledge & not the same category,quite, pretty close in some respect s., Oops forgot " Archer" lmao definitely on the lever with Aqua teen, lmao never gets in old ,e be en after 11 seasonsBut even the theme song for " inside Jo "" is also killer , lmao, Almost there lol with " I am Shake zulla, the Mike ruler " too much, I pray they get several more seasons out of it.
socialism = internet aesthetics We all have to like and dislike the right people in order to display the correct social cues. Engaging in anything beyond twitter arguments is bourgeoise and counter revolutionary
@@polishedpebble4111 blood? And what state department talking points? I guess you have no, absolutely no idea where that reference is coming from, right? And how dare he buy himself nice things, right? Hasan is the reason, we haven't established anarcho communism in the US, right?
I like both of these guys, their sociopolitics are fine; but was this a bit incoherent for anyone else? Had no idea what Felix was describing, kept wondering Who What Where etc, like in a dream. Thanks for hanging out though.
Unrelated question for Chris: what is the track you used at the end of ep601 Convoy feat. Dan Boeckner? I keep trying to search the lyric "the cattle have eyes fashioned of steel" and all im coming up with is npr articles about how drawing eyes on cow's asses keeps predators away or something... I must have this bop! Thanks in advance, -Shrieking Hog
16:35 It's really more of a spartan agōgē situation, where they deliberately make entrance conditions almost impossible so the only people who pass are those with the necessary skills to cover up their actions and falsify records.
As an extreme ginger myself I reject the claim that Damian Lewis is “the most ginger man is the world”. Clown statement from a big clown man in a big clown house and a tiny clown car.
the first 3 seasons and nothing else is the perfect way to watch this show. Im so dedicated to this religion ive created, I will never watch beyond that beautiful season 3 finale. what a ____hanger
Time for my stories is a good show! They should stick to movie and TV commentary. I lost a lot of respect for their political analysis when the opposed ForceTheVote
Yeah I like the show. I like Taken too. Sometimes dirty propaganda is just fun. (And honestly on the grand scheme of Hollywood war crimes, this one wasn’t so bad.)
propaganda is fun if you know what you're watching. to me the problem is i think lots of people forget that or don't realize. since Americans only watch TV, so many think shows like this are real life; maybe not the specifics but in broad stokes. they conclude that, in general, the country is always under threat of evil foreigners are trying to infiltrate and the Intel/military institutions are generally oriented towards stopping that sort of threat. they replace understanding with watching and consuming
@@pantsedjuniorhayseed4816 If it’s ineffective propaganda that makes it even easier to watch though. Like I genuinely think in Homeland the creative forces that aren’t on board with the politics of the deep state got more out of the relationship with the CIA than vice versa. The key question is who the hell watches this show and A thinks the lead characters are heroic, and B leaves with a positive enough impression of the CIA to the point where they’d sign up? In Season Four she’s known as “The Drone Queen” and in one part of the show she considers drowning her own child. Honestly the main takeaway I got from the show was you’d have to be mentally ill to wanna belong to those psychopaths.
There’s only two ways they can go, noble curly haired forest angels or they look like the help staff of said forest angels that are forced to live below ground
Wait, I'm supposed to pronounce Morena Baccarin's name as Moreena Bakaren? I've been pronouncing it as Mohr-enna Bac-arren this whole time. Maybe I'll just pronounce it as Inara Serra from now on.
I think I only got about 5 (?) Seasons into this show. It got too ridiculous on top of the original ridiculousness it set up in the beginning. I could sympathize with the strain of a service member adjusting to being home after being in a VERY high stress environment for years, and the family adjusting to their Dad acting abnornally - but he came back and REENLISTED, was somehow home all the time (when he should have at least been attending every training briefing he missed over the last years). Then someone tells him he should run for Congress and he quits the Marines? AFTER REENLISTING???
love Hasan. fave himbo. He has the classical handsome looks and funny anger, Felix has the brains. together they'd make for a good buddy comedy maybe who tf knows
Please use the term anti muslim bigotry instead of Islamophobia to call out bigotry We can criticize and mock any dogma-cults,religions,etc We must not criticize or mock any believer of those dogmas
There is no meaningful difference between a religion and the people that practice it. A religion is defined by the concrete praxis of the community that practices it. As such there is no way to hate Islam and not hate muslims. Islam doesn't exist abstractly, but amongst a real community of believers. "Anti Muslim Bigotry" would normalize that you can hate the "idea" of Islam, and as such plays into far right rhetorics of figures like Sam Harris. Islamophobia is a good label.
@@GormTheElder So criticizing and mocking a movie is same as mocking criticizing the fans of that movie. Please rethink what u said Before u start to reply
@@luker.6967 It is to say that to hate capitalism is to hate your boss. When we criticise capitalism for being violent, we don't just mean the abstrsct idea of it. When we say it's exploitative, we don't just mean the abstract idea of it. When we say it's imperialistic, we don't just mean the abstract idea of it. We mean the people that benefit from it. Who carry it out. We mean the bosses and enforcers. We mean that they as a class are all of those things. Anyone worth their salt should know this. To say that Islam is inherently violent is to say that muslims are inherently violent. To say that capitalism is inherently violent is to say that capitalists are inherently violent.
Interesting; I never considered this before, but it makes sense. And I would find it unintuitive to use equivalent constructions like Hinduphobia or Christophobia
We need to cancel these grifters like hassssan. calling themselves socialist on the internet, to make big money. Even Friedrich "factory owner" Engels portrayed himself as socialist, just so Marx would let him hit that bussy.
@@noname_1377 Shut up, cancel culture doesn't belong in the left. There are enlightened elements among the rich. If they contribute to the socialist, cause so be it. Without Engels Marx's would be nowhere. You really need to work on your ignorance.
