They Want To DESTROY Artistic Freedom 

Nah, it was int he old days. Now they tell a man that he is a baby if he wants a steak, because real men eat soy.

@@ObIitus ^this. the point of censorship is to control people

Today's censorship advocates are actually thinking we must ban the steak so that we can be pure as baby. Sounds insane? Then ask any woke.

payment processors should remain neutral. its not their job to enforce laws. if you are a terrorist, a pa@dophile, a gr@pist, snuff videos, a drug dealer, they need to process your payment. its like an water utility denying you service because you are a commie, or white supremacist. even if illegal, its NOT THEIR JOB to regulate stuff like this

Or the entire plane's passengers can't get served peanuts because one person said is allergic to it

Same old comment but hey glad you’ve saved this comment to be armed and ready to send this whenever the topic is censorship

Could you say that louder please?

@@shmagojirafan5607 for the people at the back

yep,

Its designed to remove any criticism of their social engineering agenda

don't forget that these payment processors can just economically destroy a country by stopping service in it on a whim. They never should have the right to do that, yet they already did, and, if they want, can do it again. To anyone.

​@supershid464 an alternative needs to be made.

Many of us allowed them to block payment for protesters and continued to use them. What did you think would happen?

​@@ceshmate1953tere already are alternatives.

​@@ceshmate1953 We need a new payment option! If there's anyone, ANYONE, that can make a new payment method...I pray that person can be found...

>Imagine you can't buy meat because the payment processor is vegan. You laugh now...

@@Code7Unltd That will definitely become reality. I'm not joking.

@@MrAstrojensen There's a reason that people say that the Babylon Bee is only a few months ahead of reality, despite that publication being social satire.

Once upon a time, a lawmaker tried to make it so that it's illegal to have a second serving of rice when you eat in stores (from restaurants to tiny stalls). Of course, that didn't go through. But the point is, if you give power to the wrong people, they will abuse it. And there's a lot of wrong people in high positions.

You VILL EAT ZE BUGS

Obviously not.

god that takes me back...

This is by design. They are doing this on purpose.

Evidently not. These idiots never learn their lesson. And it's either moral guardians trying to push some hypocritical agenda, or some people who think this'll please shareholders. Morons, all of them.

No but it will be funny watching them fail so badly after being told time and time again this is a bad idea 💀🍿

Turns out, the companies who only profit from contemptible usury are still owned by the people who invented it.

99% of them, doesn't matter what kind.

insurance companies are also evil

They always were evil, first they fed on creating debt now the censor. Next they will bankrupt anyone who's esg is too low.

they're evil in more than one way.

It's less of an actual culture of people and more so that the husks who control these corporations are puritans themselves, and so these dinosaurs and fossils force their extinct values upon new generations.

As i said in my comment, BITCOIN is going to crash, and people are just going to pay via money order.

You can't really tank paypal since they can get money from practically any product sale, and there are a lot of non 18+ products on the internet.

@@linusgustafsson2629from what I'm hearing Paypal will go bankrupt soon. Too many people are dissatisfied with them. Apparently scam and stealing people money etc. All it take is many influencer suggesting to move to this other platform and they're done.

They get paid by the government through ESG.

Because enough couple of people own the majority of the shares that's why

Because it's not the same people enacting the ban and getting hurt? Patreon, gumroad etc aren't the ones deciding to ban nsfw, they're caving in to pressure put on them by big credit card companies. Mastercard doesn't care if Patreon or Gumroad lose half of their traffic, it's a drop in the bucket for them.

That's not how the world works. Allegedly, someone like Former Vice President joe biden gifts a massive amount of money to enemies of the USA. Then, allegedly, that money is used to push ideas like this. So in a way, we voted for it and we're paying for it. Allegedly.

Payment processor shareholders are told the advertisers are hurt by being "associated" with this content, so they vote to keep their money flow going, even though voting this way hurts their income. At least that's what I'd like to say. The reality is that in my opinion the majority of the shareholders never bother to vote their shares so they by default automatically approve whatever the board wants. The boards are in the pockets of the advertisers, who want to be able to put their kid friendly ads on these sites with millions of clicks ... completely ignorant of *why* those sites are getting those millions of clicks. Again in my opinion, for what little it's worth lol

@@manicmarauder They don’t care about kid friendliness. Woke consulting firms are gatekeeping the NSFW industry.

Sounds more to me that the people who fetishize consent want something to get off to and enforce their morality on others

Amen! 👃🏻💢

Bankers, The same kinds of people who stayed hush about a certain island owner; if not, outright aiding We are certainly ruled by evil

@@ChronoSquare you're Jewish

It's not morality, they just simpy want to take away your fun (don't look at young fertile depiction of women gºy!) meanwhile they protect the "undocumented" who do the worst things you can possibly imagine...

Bruh, Tumblr's like 90% back to how they were before that dumbass purge. Basically, just keep the hardcore or hyper-fetishy stuff on another site you link to and you're fine with all the lewd shit you want.

i didnt know people still used tumblr loooooooooooooooooool

What's Tumblr? Is it edible?

​@@duskdovahkiin5814i think its for storing drinking water

​@@daMillenialTrucker It's calmer now, and you can have somewhat spicy content on there.

Yes. What’s illegal is loli art, even digital. So companies are doing what they need to do. Stop defending illegal content.

@@xbon1 nobody here even mentioned that stuff, what are you talking about?

​@xbon1 Loli stuff is not illegal cause it's a cartoon depiction not a real child.

@@xbon1 illegal? Where?

@@xbon1 why won't people think of those poor pixels?!?!?!

That's why censorship always goes down a slippery slope: once what is considered the worst of the worst gets banned, something else down the line will become the worst of the worst in its place and get banned as well, and so on and so on.

Bruh, what the hell? Grey is a sexual color, haven't you heard about "50 shades of grey"? Ban it too! Squares should bee colorless!

You monster.....how dare you show children a Shade of Gray outta the lewd 50

You mean the notorious Sexagon???

The fact that I can see this happening... Maybe in Facebook rather than a broadcasting of a town hall meeting, BUT STILL!

This precisely.

It'll never happen, though, because those bastards have all the politicians in their back pockets.

If someone decides to go for legal precedent, they have to phrase in terms of "business freedom" and "capitalism hurray!" rather than "freedom of expression" or worse "sexual liberation". Just a tip.

This. A million times this. Companies have way too many rights these days and it's starting to have severe, negative impacts on the overall well-being of our society.

They need some kind of "payment neutrality" principle. Who is to say it will stop at adult content? Could eventually be anything they don't like. And it's not just a question of is it right, it's a matter of it will just make a huge mess to do business.

Especially when it's not even coming from people honest enough to tell you they're operating on faith-based values, with no history whatsoever of proving their particular ideals' utility to society. Quite the opposite, really.

Puritan culture have been alive for decades

​​@@crowe6961you might be shocked, its not just the wokes who are advocating this puritan shift, its also appearing in some conservative circles that wanted push this puritan shift. Learning that, i realized that I'm a centrist in the end. I really wished for the culture we had during 1998-2007.

worst thing is they are a hypocrite themselves.

.... its the DNC faking it for extortion

Sadly we see *real* children get harmed quite a lot, especially in certain things, but no one seems to care about it. So instead, these people target something that is fictional and doesn't cause any actual harm.

@@Suisfonia Spot on. It only makes the whole situation even more infuriating. The idea that governments and authorities are even thinking about fictional characters when human trafficking is alive and well makes my blood boil.

Personally, i'm against anything loli. That being said, since no one is getting harmed, who am i to tell others not to dwell in it? It seriously freaks me out how so many people won't even try this approach.

There is a huge difference between a compnay not allowing some things within their services, and the government doing that.

@@MrTomyCJ same shit.

Ur not immuned to the propaganda

That’s why the book said vengeance belongs to god

Strange since by the looks of things you should be rejoicing this since pr0n is being censored.

Because it's a very short trip do them using it against anyone else. Just imagine getting your accounts blocked because you're the wrong flavor of Christian denomination, just completely blocked lutherans from accepting credit cards.

Christian Conservative and I totally agree. I may not agree with the views and morals of every kind of content creator out there, I also believe in a free market enterprise and as long as nothing illegal is happening, let them have their cake and eat it too

@@midknight3350 I'm glad to see there are Christian conservatives like yourself as a lot of religious conservatives I've seen(at least the ones on social media) tend to act like the woke left in the sense that they feel the need to act as nosy moral busybodies towards people watching or consuming adult entertainment(even if they're all between consenting adults).

I mean, surely there is overlap in the behavior of people who "enjoy" both things?

@@jamespadgett8660 Yeah, bad people exist. So what?

​@@jamespadgett8660 prove with proof and statistic. Not ur assumption. Go on, do your own research

Aight lets ban video games, surely theres overlap with violent crimes

@@fluffymoonbunny These prudes think that sex is more "sacred" for some reason.

What platforms do you use ?

Good. Local communities encourage more social cohesion.

How do You do that?

@@Rey-zx7jz I've tried replying to this comment twice, and each time RU-vid seems to swallow the reply... not sure if you even saw them, but basically the links to them are in my channel/profile description. I guess RU-vid doesn't like the links I'm posting.

I freakin' got frauded three times using their service. Each time it was just an apology letter. Obviously I dropped them, but if they can't freakin' keep their customers safe, they ain't getting my service.

fat luck if something gets wrong, no support or anything

​@@user-sn1hi7my7x i used to have a FREE account years ago when it was young. Now my account is locked down and I can't unlock it to close it down unless I give a photo ID. I decided to not do a single damn thing because the only currency I had on it were gift cards which are now expired and have already been spent elsewhere and destroyed when empty.

Who uses PayPal anyways? Only frauds

​@@therealjaystone2344i do. i have 20 grands on it. should i take the all ?

you, if you keep using them.

​@@FleetingDream755the big problem is we don't even pick what cards we get. Banks/credit unions give you whatever card they use and they all use the same 2 or 3. How else are we supposed to support people over the internet if not through credit cards.

​@@danteglory95indeed

@@danteglory95 crypto. it sounds like im a crypto shill but legitmately, crypto. For a lot of the currencies not even the creators of them can control their price. Its basically slightly simplified stocks.

​@@danteglory95 mail, mail em the money, make sure the mail is triple sealed so it doesn't get stolen from and sand so it looks less suspicious.

*AI generated images

@@BloodrealmX It's still art.

​@@RedAISkye images

@@ManjigumiVirus Yes, digital art are all technically images.

@@RedAISkye no it is a image, it does not have human art skill used just some words

Nor can they "not consent". You have to make sure they understand this. They are not people, they are not things, they are mere intangible ideas, lines, words, NOTHING more. Because everything is possible in fiction and could happen behind the scene, any character could always be actually +18 and only pretending to not consent. They CANNOT prove otherwise, force them to. On the other hand an artist can prove it by depicting it. Ask them to go talk to these fictional characters. They'll still try to say the depiction alone is too much, however.

This is what happens when you employ weak people who are bullied in high school.

That actually was already something popping up last year on my Patreon. I decided to paint an image for my Patreons that was a document of the fictional character consenting to all very lewd actions for fun. xD

Lol the brain of this person who do this law is rotten

@@hoppa_2184 "That actually was already something popping up last year on my Patreon. I decided to paint an image for my Patreons that was a document of the fictional character consenting to all very lewd actions for fun. xD " (your words quoted for context.) There have been movements like this (pro-censorship) since the beginning of this nation. They used to not survive Constitutional scrutiny. I'm not sure what happened along the way, but something has definitely changed. I love anime' (grew up in what is now a Japanese prefecture...) and I don't want to see anime' adversely impacted by this wave of neo-Puritanical xenophobia I see taking place.

For how they treat customers, they might as well be children.

I imagine they ship/process quite a few children though (on the down-low).

That's the insane part.

i mean its for irl grown up pedos

Ah well you see clearly everyone is just a child now and need to be protected by big Corporate from themselves because they know best.

Eh, I guess it's kind of similar to how some places have 18 content banned or restricted in a certain way. I guess some sort of party of people just hates it so much that they just begun pushing it to everyone

Always was. Or more accurately, George Orwell was being anti authoritarian whilst satirising elements of the US, USSR, and other countries around at the time. Why do you think every house had a TV showing propaganda 24/7 which could never be turned off? TV was becoming popular and was often brodcasting "patriotic" news and films which always showed your country (or close, recognisable allies) fighting against theenemy countries and/or people who looked and sounded like they were from there. A constant talk about a war somewhere far off against some big "enemy" which never directly bombed anywhere people lived, just fought over third world places like Africa? nobody really new much about them other than the locations they generally controlled on the map? Thats the cold war and it's proxy conflicts. "Big brother is watching you"? Try "Uncle sam Needs you to Join the Army". Or just pushing religion where god knows your sins and thus you must repent. It's not sinister, Big brother loves you. He's watching out for you. If times are hard, Uncle Sam will Protect you. More things change, more things stay the same.

So much repeat history during that era.

I know, right?

Politics were always ahead of our time

Do something about it.

EU must save us once again!

I heard Google Pay and in-app purchases in the Pixiv app still work. but really we need a payment processor to step up-they will literally be the most successful one by far by simply not having an agenda and just doing their job

and no one will mourn lol.

The largest shareholder of PayPal is Blackrock/Vanguard. PayPal is not going anywhere, sorry to break it to you.

How PayPal have zero conpetitors😢

i saw a artist affected by patreons rules where - they made a character "too young looking" (when they showed a comparison, it looked the exact same height, body type, etc to me and the artist) - even though they had made special "i consent" stickers to put on their 1 piece art, it still wasn't enough.

It's very weird you think it could be the blue hair werido?

They do go after it, it's just that in most cases those forms are willing to eat the huge f33s (because their talent has nowhere else to go) while the art sites decide to either ban content or drop the processor.

Because small flat cap owning funny people own P0rno sites. and these same people own all your Banks and cards.

Well uhh, some US states have forced CornPub to pull out of them. Like Texas, Mississippi, and North Carolina for example

The huge company that owns every p0rn sites are the problem. In Texas, they banned p0rn hub too.

Don't need money when you have a high social credit score. They hope they can stay afloat long enough to make that the reality.

But where does that money come from?

@@PaladinCiel That’s a bald strategy, let’s see if it pays off for them.

@@PaladinCiel Well, as seen with quite a few companies, this year, a high SC score isn't enough.

@@PaladinCielUnfortunatently for them, it's not going to work out as they hope and will severally damage them in the long run.

Gumroad

Fr if only pixiv didn't comply they are soft

What happened with Pixiv?

@@og_3rd_st_saint_gat what happened?!

bruhh

PayPal got sued over that and finally had to back down over that. Little FYI that they tried to keep 'under the radah' but failed dramatically at doing.

I think paypal also withheld like 500 000 dollars from Eric July when he had a massively successful comic kickstarter. But hey, that was friendly progressive racism about how a black man can't possibly earn that much money legaly, and it must be a scam.

I literally got banned by PayPal for no reason a few years ago.

yes my payment was withheld to him, I was mad​@@linusgustafsson2629

And that's why we need crypto currencies payment method. Never let any specific organization/company control your money.

I couldn't agree even more

And then what, exactly? These companies hold basically ALL of the world's credit transaction. There's pretty much no way to escape things like Mastercard and Visa without going back to the barter system

I couldn't agree more if I tried. This comment is straight up facts here

Not all, because the medium starts with the credit card they require you to add to use their site in the first place, eventually an actually reliable source comes along who despises their actions, and makes a more trustworthy currency transfer medium. Then those untrustworthy ones, eventually die out from lack of money and attention. Again, they made things political towards the main groups that are not fans of politics being added, which means, they bit the hand that feeds them, that means they don't need money anymore, they need to be shown that the same hand is the only reason their sites survive.

@@PocchiMocca Yeah, but this isn't something physical like groceries, car parts, or whatever... This is digital artwork and supporting an online artist putting their work out there and in some sense a freedom of expression.... Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't that go against the 1st amendment? There's no way we can get rid of these credit card companies, they are unfortunately a necessary evil for some people... but all people want is for them to remove these policies. Who the fuck cares what people are using their money on? Why should a payment processor/credit card company care with what people spend their money on?

Just sexual only if it was me

Bye bye horror and gore content.

Not even R18G.

Image all of the consent forms being signed at a Halo match.

i bet it was those damn knights that pushed for this one

Start working on that parallel/grey market economy. We might have to resort to shit like bitcoin wallets for example, and other decentralized payment/hosting methods.

@@nerdicusdorkum2923 damnit I was really hoping it wouldn't involve bitcoin or other digital currencies and shit but what else is there even-

This mentality is what over time allows this, if all just banded together and found solutions, these corporations would walk over all over us like a carpet.

@@lavalord96 crypto as a concept isn't even that bad tbh. It's just get rich quicks scams and similar shits that are bastardizing it

with the current system? not much. all that can really be done is starve the beast over time as lawfare wont produce the results you want. out of all the payment processers paypal is the most vulnerble. while this is going down ignore them as they will flail about once they start taking damage, expect a simalar response to the sweet baby mess thats ongoing... that is defamation and fear tactics with a side of wagon circling and dog piling. they will not actually change, as the requirements to become a payment processor is so onerious they know realisticly its improbbable new competion can set up shop, a common tactic used by current corperations... to stifle competion by lobbying for things they can absorb but a smaller start up cant a tactic that creates an oligopoly rather then a monopoly. so thats a lotta text eh? sorry i tend to ramble. there is no clean solution to this mess, side step them with alternative payment methiods and use their service as little as possable. learn what a money order is and use that instead of paypal, make payments with privacy focused crypto like monero and avoid using exchanges with a "know your customer" requirement, because when these become popular they will increase the attacks on crypto with regulation attempts. the last thing you need it to be suddenly branded a criminal becuase you happen to own crypto or be left with a milstone you cant get rid of. however something to note paypal is just a bit player in this mess, who you want is visa and mastercard and a certain ratfink.

It's more like a parasite affecting us all.

Humanity is humanity's greatest enemy.

After watching the art commentary community for the past 6 years, I very much agree with you. The rise of AI is clearly the consequences of the power hungry individuals who would rather be a victim and victimized others. It's not a coincidence the rise of AI arrived after 2020 where almost everyone has their mental health declined, the rabid puritan culture (of a certain leaning), rampant cancel culture and the hubris of the entertainment elite. In this day and age, feelings are more cared about than creativity as long as it's not them that get hurt.

"What I fear is not Artificial Inteligence, but the Real Stupidity of men." - Someone, 2024.

Please A.i, save humanity from their own stupidity.

The thing is, paypal is not a bank, and they are not required to do business with your favourite grocery store. What YOU are free to do is take your money into your own hands, drive to the grocery store and give them the money yourself.

​@@deamon6681what if your grocery store is online? The purpose of online payment methods is to be a mirror of real life and yet here we are

Exactly

@@deamon6681 Credit cards, on the other hand, DO sign a contract with you that makes them a go between of your money to points you select. Paypal can go leap off a cliff, I've never used it, but credit cards are a NECESSITY in most major transactions these days, and no contract I have ever signed with one gives them any right to decide how my money is spent shy of illegality being involved.

You are the one missing a big point: if you use their service, you are agreeing to the terms of use. If you don't like their terms then you're free to take your money elsewhere. It's like if you were trying to force me to sell you my car in exchange for your money "because you can do whatever you want with your money".

Stupid is an understatement

No... more like once artistic freedom is regulated, payment processors who do NOT adhere to this overly moralistic bullshit will be created.

​​@@christopherkidwell9817 and immediately get deleted out of existence due to government interference, competition eating them or some other bullcrap

@@christopherkidwell9817 won't happen. It will not be backed up by banks.

@@christopherkidwell9817 Go ahead, create your own, everyone is waiting.

@@christopherkidwell9817 Payment processing is one of the most heavily regulated industries out there. 'start your own' would be substantially difficult for someone with Elon Musk levels of assets and legal council. It's easier to get into DoD contracting than payment processing.

Look I'm just saying that would be a great basis for a comedy. Specifically with a character like Darkness from konosuba. She would be so mad, I think she would actually figure out how to hit the broad side of a barn.

Still baned (if she signed), as it would fall under "consensual non-con", which they still won´t allow. It´s insane.

I can just imagine The tentacleo after is the main character, and they're going on an adventure spanning dozens of countries to try and find a wife, but they have absolutely no charisma, and end up going the route of "if anyone lets me fuck them, that's a keeper"

Did my original coment get removed? I only had 1 swear in it, comeon RU-vid, lemme express my first amendment to make jokes.

@@shirothefish9688 certain words or combination of words hides it to where only you can see it. If you can't see it then it was deemed bad enough to be removed in seconds.

Maybe you can find out when you're invited to their private island party.

hypnosis is like a top 10 category on nhentai and other doujin sites. NTR, drugs, blackmail, hypnosis.. those are all MASSIVE categories, its impossible to even get away from them so the post makes sense. what doesnt make sense is that its about 2D drawings about fictional made up characters. whats next, we cant make movies about it? we cant make games about it? some of the best and highest rated movies ever have those themes in them. why does it only apply to a drawing lmao.

Fictional characters cannot consent to anything, period. So the rules that they’re adding are completely delusional and paranoid.

Why would a capitalist swine company want you to unionize like a communist exactly?

and this shit doesnt even matter when they label most anime as CP

Court orders should be the sole exception. If you don't have a signed order from a judge, though, then it's not your problem.

Devil's advocate: "But underaged characters are illegal!!! Panic panic panic!!!"

​@@Solrex_the_Sun_King *any woman who doesn't look visibly old and fat af is underaged* is basically these people's mindsets

But rules are made to be broken ​@@Solrex_the_Sun_King

@@Psydkik *bonk with a grey baseball bat* (I got the reference, right?)

imma paraphrase andrew jackson here: "You tell me that if I take the deposits from the bank and annul its charter, I shall ruin ten thousand families. That may be true, gentlemen, but that is your sin! Should I let you go on, you will ruin fifty thousand families, and that would be my sin! You are a den of vipers and thieves." payment processors are a extension of the big corporate bankers, and the big corporate bankers are run by the central banks of the world.

That quote is 🔥

@@alegame135 yea benjamin franklin was a destroyer of his time, and a giga-chad.

@@Zeakthecat Ben Franklin was a philanderer's philanderer, but he was also a polymath and a brilliant one, at that. Strange how those we look up to as "genii" (plural of genius) are as flawed and as limited as we are, isn't it?

​@horusfalcon True, but that's why we mostly admire what we think are their genius or good aspects, rather than every.

They think they have a monopoly but as soon as reliable alternatives pop up as a result of this type of behaviour from them, they're done.

Nah, this feels more like a puritan stance against sexual content all around. Pushing your weight around and strong-arm companies to follow your agenda because God forbid your site has 18+ content is seen by kids "Accidentally".

The people who are pushing for this are not motivated by money...

They already exist. Host the platform yourself. Accept monero. Painful, have to learn new ways to get from point a - b in terms of money nothing is changing

@@TearThatRedFlagDown That's not going to happen though, because they do have a monopoly and anything that is a competitor gets wiped out immediately. The only current alternative is Cryptocurrency, but who knows how long that will last if people actually start switching to it.

A company "censoring" how their own service can be used can be a retarded policy, but is nowhere near as dangerous as government imposed censorship. People should be free to determine the terms of use of their property, even if the terms are stupid.

The government is audibly against 2a at this point.

The government will especially intervene against this bullshit if the credit card companies stop doing business with gun manufacturers and munitions manufacturers that manufacture MILITARY weaponry! These credit card companies would be going WAY TOO FAR if they infringe on our military readiness by refusing to service military hardware manufacturers.

That's why freedom is important: it ensures that if enough people want it, an alternative is possible and allowed.

The problem is that they have so much money, they won't even feel it.

​@@alegame135 Who knows. Pretty sure if a half their customers take out their money and use it to fund an Lawsuit against them that'd work.

Do it. You won't.

What should be, doesn't matter anymore. What is right, doesn't matter anymore. This is the Great Reset. The powers that be are enacting a grand plan to tear down all of society to its very foundations and replace it with a worldwide dystopia. Paypal is just one of a million cogs in the massive machine that is rolling over us.

​@alegame135 it's a bank. It relies on ohter peoples money. If everyone takes out their cash then they'll go 'bankrupt'.

Well considering who's in power right now we all know that wouldn't happen the dems love having that kind of control over those they disagree with.

Look into Operation Choke Point and FOSTA-SESTA. That's one major reasons for this. The other is the high ch4rg3b4ck rates and other small things that makes our industry considered to be "high rlsk"

We used to have common carrier rules; but those are pretty much dead.

Neutrality laws are S-Tier, that would be ideal

@@Lunk42 Same thing with republican like they any different.

Shimoneta was a GREAT series!

I haven't heard that name in a while.

It's all sexual art that doesn't have 1 party formally requesting and agreeing to engage in sexual tomfoolery.

Agree lol.

pretty sure it actually is illegal in the EU. which could set this right.

Yes. It’s very authoritarian and puritanical of them to do this.

If it is something illegal, that's the government's job to sort out, not the payment processors.

@@GeraltofRivia22 The same government that doesn't function properly, nor work towards the needs of their constituents and instead kowtow to their corporate masters and lobbyists and never pursue meaningful progress regardless of political affiliations because their loyalties lie in their corporate overlords who stuff their pockets full. Payment processors are untouchable, they lobby harder than any other corporation or entity.

Our brains are complicated

​@raynalldoprime enjoy spending 2000 rubles for 1 slice of bread

sorry what? masturcard aint working fam. Im using piss a and thsnkfully it still working. but i dont know for how much long

@@Bos_Meong Dammed autocorrect

And apparently the entire government too with the "domestic terrorism" on videogame

Hard but true, a wise statement in fact

like what? like in twitch artistic adultery?

But they already do. If that wasn't the case we wouldn't be here now.

​@@TerminallyAliveIf you convert your time from typing to learn of white collar crimes like FTX, Credit Suisse, George Soros, Blackrock, and Microsoft - you would have hit puberty by now.

​@@defaulted9485They're a trolltard don't respond

Reminder that moving lots of your own money around is considered a crime.

They tried with internet, there was a thought with the telephone cables, and now they try to cut money line. Power corrupts people.

Or maybe, just maybe, they got too many cases of underage people buying adult things using their credit card because they allow kids to have credit card but not drinking or smoking. So the parents complained and claimed it's bank's fault that their kids have access to those things. Or the famous cases of [my kid just swiped $20 on mobile game! It's mobile game's fault!] or [It's bank's fault for not stopping it!]. Then eventually, through twists and turns, they come to the conclusion that it must be fictional characters' fault and never theirs. Crazy, I know.

pretty sure this actually is illegal in the EU. which means when they catch wind of it paypal and mastercard would be forced to about face.

​@@varnix1006 Power doesn't corrupt that's a misconception. The truth is the corrupt seek power the good don't.

And that's why they hate Bitcoin. Increased acceptance of cryptos like Bitcoin is the literal nightmare of these companies because it breaks their control over your money.

Also to note Visa and Mastercard often worked together for the purpose of fixing charge fees or coordinating block of payments. They've been so symbiotic in the past two decades they may as well be the same thing.

@@NewNecro There's definitely some slimy and illegal cartel stuff going on between them. Even here, they obviously decided on a single position before they acted, or the people would just switch from one to the other if only one of them decided to force their puritanical morality on clients.

@@SovietsniperYTAnd why they love digital currency.

How much I wish it wouldn't. Banning NSFW wont erase a problem, it will make it a 100 times worse.

One of the artists I occasionally come across for their artwork has a mini profile in the corner stating "I consent." I wondered why for a while now, this explains it.

When rules ruin interactions

​@@falcongamer58 Yep. 😂

​@@PhillyCh3zSt3akLOL. 😂

It´s clear with the "consensual non-con" ban. They don´t care about actual consent, they just want to get rid of anything they don´t like.

it's allegedly about making a constitutional capitalist republic look worse than communism. You know, the failed system that's "never truly been tried."

It's all about ESG and mitigating any risks. They can't get in any legal trouble or controversy for platforming NSFW content if they straight up ban all the adult stuff.

Inch by Inch, Day by Day

Fucking torment nexus, seriously...

So basically what that tells me is that their payment processor's executives just got a great big ESG cheque in the mail.

@@BloodrealmX Or received a bunch of quiet words that amounted to "Take the coin, or take the razor." Then they elected for the coin.

It's not about convenience, some of us are in countries where it's PayPal and master card or nothing. Being in a region hit by "Not available in your region" makes these companies far from a choice.

Name an effective alternative that's widely accepted. There are none. We need to start holding companies accountable instead of pointing fingers at each other.

Exactly!

100%

aye, and this shit is getting old

Yep. I'm in one of the nanny states that put an age verification system in place. So far in my experience it's just affected the big name sites though. Why is it the "party of small government" is so dead set on controlling what I do? Pretty hypocritical imo.

Exactly, the Goverment is the problem and they're corrupt.

Why would it be illegal for a company to determine the terms of use of their own service? You want to ban stuff just because you disagree with the way a company is offering their service? That's an authoritarian mentality

so since trump got elected and the right wing are also the ones that are trying to ban porn, people are blaming the left for paypal and master card behavior but it's probably the increase in right wing policies that are doing this

It's always that year, isn't it? Censorship on all kinds of things massively increased after November of that year, I wonder what made all of the most powerful industries come together and agree to censor the internet back then?

PayPal has been anti-adult content even in the Bush era. Look up Marc Perkel.

@@SimonReeves2black rock and it EGC score nonsense they need to ban doing business anywhere they one pushing anti lewd garbage.

@@SimonReeves2 think it was in part chokepoint?

The idea that fictional characters need to be consenting is absurd, ludicrous and baffling on a level that is unmatched. But it's possible to fight them with their own bullshit.

​@@Dice-Z Consent and Fiction is an Oxymoron. 😂

The person quit right when saying " peopela see Fictional character are real being. Meanwhile seeing Real being as Fictional character" This statement will be a Quote for sure and there will be Law rules out for this as people will stand together to go to the government

Maybe you should think about making a payment but the access for the good stuff is on something like telegram or discord. Like this: you make a plan, you add the visit button on it like discord, share the stuff on discord ect. Annoying thing will be to care about who still paid and who don’t to take the access away.

Obama is from the same cloth cut as the current Censorship enablers

dickballs! -winston churchhill

Luckly for me "I have never been nor have I ever been associated with comm....err making art for monetary gain, because I suck at practically all skills."

@@jackalenterprisesofohio If food producers ever stopped working, would you not care because you don't ¨produce food¨ or would you logically care because you still eat food

@@SpecterNeverSpectator I grow my own food and its deffinetly a lot and not just two blue berry bushes....or did I get rid of them.....well I know aloe Vera is a type of eatable.

You damn right it’s not an answer. Women are sighcoes now.

I completely agree with you. Speaking to women nowadays can be more costly than Adult content online.

Because of all the content made to cater to their ego. Remove their options and money and suddenly, women are trad housewife material.

Agreed. We live in a time when even the craziest anime yandere is still safer than most real women since the anime yandere is fictional and therefore can't damage your life with false accusations the way real women can

even if you "meet a real woman", consuming pr0n is normal and healthy, almost everyone does it