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THI Theoretical Bounce to Mainland using 2 Goombas without Misalignment 

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I show that we can use 2 goomba bounces to get onto the item block on a corner of it towards the cliffside, which doesn't have a misalignment. And from there, we can get onto the mainland. Note that I used hacks to place the goombas, because it's currently questionable whether we could naturally get them to fall into these positions.
Originally, I had showed that we could get onto the item block using 2 goomba bounces and a misalignment ( • THI Theoretical Bounce... ). However, an issue with that plan was that the misalignment corner of the item block is on the opposite side from the cliff, and so we can't really reach it from bouncing on enemies that fall straight down from the cliff. Later, I showed that we could get onto the item block without using the misalignment if we used 3 bounces ( • THI Theoretical Bounce... ). After that, Marbler ( / supermarble94 ) pointed out to me that item block walls are so vertically thin that the floor hitbox is available to access just under the upper wall hitbox. Thus, I re-examined the situation, and as it turns out, 2 bounces are sufficient for getting onto the item block from the side nearer the cliff. In relative terms, setting up 2 bounces should be much easier than setting up 3 bounces, but in absolute terms, it's still questionable whether this is possible to set up, given that one of the goombas won't naturally walk this far away from its home. So the next question is whether we can use a goomba escort to make it possible.

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Комментарии : 104   
@Kain128
@Kain128 Год назад
I misread Mainland as "Maryland" when I read the title so I was very disappointed when Mario did not in fact bounce his way to the 7th state of the United States.
@moth.monster
@moth.monster Год назад
aww hell no Mario went to Dundalk
@catmacopter8545
@catmacopter8545 Год назад
🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀
@Naftoreiclag
@Naftoreiclag Год назад
I can't wait for the follow-up in a few hours that shows how to do this in practice.
@SeanCMonahan
@SeanCMonahan Год назад
I'm from the future; it's no longer just theoretical! Pannen posted a TAS for this strat as a Christmas gift ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-NofsiJ6nCLs.html
@genderender
@genderender Год назад
Very promising improvement, excited to see if the escort works out. Would be a massive time save
@RizzlinHD
@RizzlinHD Год назад
sounds like a good weekend
@genderender
@genderender Год назад
@@RizzlinHD like most of these videos I expect pannen to figure it out in a stroke of genius lol
@RizzlinHD
@RizzlinHD Год назад
@@genderender as do we all I'm sure haha. I was making a joke about using the word "escort" out of context here though lol
@bwburkeGaming
@bwburkeGaming Год назад
Still only theoretical, but interesting.
@ToonyTails
@ToonyTails Год назад
Seriously Mario 64 should have it’s own section in physics classes
@JorgetePanete
@JorgetePanete Год назад
its*
@ToonyTails
@ToonyTails Год назад
@@JorgetePanete Unnecessary*
@davidthecommenter
@davidthecommenter Год назад
seriously super mario 64 should have "it is" own section in physics classes
@aloysiuskurnia7643
@aloysiuskurnia7643 Год назад
More people should document technical stuffs on Ukikipedia. It is the closest we can get for a "physics class".
@tails183
@tails183 Год назад
It is'sn't've physics.
@aughlnal7333
@aughlnal7333 Год назад
"So the next question is whether we can use a goomba escort to make it possible." I've watched this channel long enough... looking forward to the next video in a couple of days
@MarsofAritia
@MarsofAritia Год назад
what do you reckon their rates are?
@imaginaryboy2000
@imaginaryboy2000 Год назад
@@MarsofAritia 1 coin
@user-mi5hj9ev9c
@user-mi5hj9ev9c Год назад
The sound of progress my friend.
@avasam06
@avasam06 Год назад
"whoo-hoo! Ya-ha!"
@supermarble94
@supermarble94 Год назад
I'm sure you're well aware, but it'll probably give you more flexibility to come at this with an angle 45 degrees to the right, since then you could side strain into the corner for 10 units per frame instead of what your speed is limited to, to cover the gap between the goomba and the corner since you cant be too close to the box with positive vs or it kills your vs and breaks it. This could potentially make things slightly easier for the exact heights of the goombas when you bounce on them, since it looked like you had a couple dozen units to spare for the peak of the second bounce.
@ShaunDreclin
@ShaunDreclin Год назад
*sits down to enjoy a new pannen video* *looks up, it's over* oh :(
@dittomario
@dittomario Год назад
i miss watching this guy
@ericdanielski4802
@ericdanielski4802 Год назад
Nice theoretical bounce.
@sagacious03
@sagacious03 Год назад
Neat video! Thanks for uploading!
@KaeraNeko
@KaeraNeko Год назад
I genuinely do like the videos where the description is longer than the video itself
@marksmithwas12
@marksmithwas12 Год назад
It's all coming together nicely 😌
@gamerboygaming
@gamerboygaming Год назад
time to wait a few months for a new THI route update video then lmao
@DanRoom27
@DanRoom27 Год назад
Whatever you presume to do in Mario 64, know that Pannen is always at least 4 parallel universes ahead of you.
@Rolodzeo
@Rolodzeo Год назад
I dont even know wtf did I just watch but it's ok
@trevise684
@trevise684 Год назад
did anyone think the thumbnail for a split second was of Super Mario: RPG? i coulda sworn april 1'st wasnt going to be for a while
@PuffyOne1898
@PuffyOne1898 Год назад
In today’s episode of “pancake man does a thing,” tiny goombas can make really good steps.
@arkadyshersky8704
@arkadyshersky8704 Год назад
this "pancake man" shit blows
@UwUmeTG
@UwUmeTG Год назад
OMG IT'S GETTING CLOSER
@st4rx611
@st4rx611 Год назад
Bro is back
@violetasuklevska9074
@violetasuklevska9074 Год назад
This might sound extremely stupid, but given the explanation in the description, in TTC, would it be possible to DR into a fireclone bounce from the highest spinner onto the 3-coin block? I know pannen showed that you could get from that block to the next part of the clock from there using a bob-omb.
@supermarble94
@supermarble94 Год назад
Not only are there a plethora of problems with this, but it wouldn't actually do anything since we can already get up to RitC renewably, 0x, without a bobomb, and while keeping the HOLP intact.
@violetasuklevska9074
@violetasuklevska9074 Год назад
@@supermarble94 Yeah it's only a RitC timesave at most. Not to be completely outdone on 2 platforms, my new idea is slightly better, a bomb-glide from the spinner with a firebounce might cover the horizontal and vertical distance which in theory is the fastest method to get on the block for 1 frame.
@supermarble94
@supermarble94 Год назад
@@violetasuklevska9074 the issue is that a fire bounce means you can't stay on the block
@Duck_VadR
@Duck_VadR Год назад
Goat
@Luckingsworth
@Luckingsworth Год назад
Insert generic "wow this seems useful too bad its only a theory right now" comment here
@lorenzobarletta7760
@lorenzobarletta7760 Год назад
Thx youtube recommendations
@xRockLobster75x
@xRockLobster75x Год назад
pog
@Yaanu.bno1
@Yaanu.bno1 Год назад
Well, I was right about a follow-up video needing two weeks to make, but I guess we still need another few days for in-game confirmation.
@KoopaKaper
@KoopaKaper Год назад
Facts
@lololordjr
@lololordjr Год назад
👍🥔
@waffle5422
@waffle5422 Год назад
Could this be used In SM64 speedruns going forward?
@aphztic
@aphztic Год назад
there's already a "too much" faster method, but this is for time saves on ABC so on 70/120 Stars Speedrun (except RTABC) should be slower
@yt_is_a_pussy
@yt_is_a_pussy Год назад
I see big potential on this last one
@fusion67
@fusion67 Год назад
How do you walk backwards to do that DR at the beginning?
@slipperynickels
@slipperynickels Год назад
if you mean that very first step before the dive, it looks like a one frame forward input. it doesn't look like mario _actually_ moves backwards but it sure seems like he does every time i rewatch that.
@supermarble94
@supermarble94 Год назад
It's 5 frames of a minimum forward input. This is called eru walking and it actually moves you net backwards after 5 frames, and you stop getting the net backwards movement after the 9th frame.
@BFree961
@BFree961 Год назад
prog
@xwddydfy_3
@xwddydfy_3 Год назад
how can this theory be proven through rng manip? and how long would it take to manipulate the rng? or am i missing something here that doesn't make it possible as of right now
@anonymousanonymous6214
@anonymousanonymous6214 Год назад
Rng manipulation wouldnt work here
@bramble553
@bramble553 Год назад
Goombas are hardcoded to drop any form of pursuit or wandering if they stray too far from their "Home" area and prioritize returning to it. the goombas needed for the bounce are simply too far away from that home position, so no amount of RNG manipulation will let the goombas get even close to falling off the ledge.
@bluemew22
@bluemew22 Год назад
@@bramble553 and as a result, this tactic will revolve around a new breakthrough in Goomba Engineering Logistics: the Goomba Escort
@genderender
@genderender Год назад
@@bramble553 You can arbitrarily move goombas outside of their home (assuming Mario is still in range ofc), but it is very specific and touchy. There's a video on this account where pannen shows a goomba escort in a test room, very cool to see in practice
@enochliu8316
@enochliu8316 Год назад
@@bramble553 One Goomba does go to the edge, which makes the current strat to go to mainland possible.
@cowcat8124
@cowcat8124 Год назад
Yeah
@vanity_.
@vanity_. Год назад
Bounce
@pokefabri
@pokefabri Год назад
This would be a time save from collecting the 100 coins star, right?
@cameronbigley7483
@cameronbigley7483 Год назад
Possibly, really depends on how fast it could be executed in theory. Aside from that, potentially opening up a star dance clip could be helpful
@Letorin
@Letorin Год назад
it also could save things like 5 itty bitty secrets and basically any star that requires a start on the tiny version of the island, though that might be every star
@CookieFonster
@CookieFonster Год назад
yes, and indirectly every other star
@violetasuklevska9074
@violetasuklevska9074 Год назад
If this works out there will be no need for repeat star collections. ABC currently needs to collect THI 100 coins 5 times.
@raydarable
@raydarable Год назад
A press save, here we come.
@arkadyshersky8704
@arkadyshersky8704 Год назад
This saves time, not an A press.
@ptnsmuls9393
@ptnsmuls9393 Год назад
How did you clone the Goombas
@supermarble94
@supermarble94 Год назад
it's a hacked setup. this is to demonstrate that it's theoretically possible if the goombas can fall correctly at the right time.
@olivius8891
@olivius8891 Год назад
So þis has þe potential to save an A press?
@fusion67
@fusion67 Год назад
no, just a time save
@olivius8891
@olivius8891 Год назад
@@fusion67 still good
@JK17-1
@JK17-1 Год назад
81th
@Hue_Sam
@Hue_Sam Год назад
14 is inching ever closer towards reality with each find
@arkadyshersky8704
@arkadyshersky8704 Год назад
This saves time, not an A press.
@Hue_Sam
@Hue_Sam Год назад
TTC Stomp on the Thwomp @ 0x A press. That had just been confirmed an hour ago at the time of writing.
@LeonAlkoholik67
@LeonAlkoholik67 Год назад
They're coming from a parallel universe
@SCMabridged
@SCMabridged Год назад
This video is too long!
@littleawesomeapple
@littleawesomeapple Год назад
Theoretical poop.
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