I've had to run and grab a dudes rifle to redirect the muzzle. I never cussed. He was instantly apologetic. I said "don't worry, nobody saw but now you know, don't do it again". There's no need to be a psychopath about it. Even if your dad used to beat you, let it go man.
May just be my own observation but, it seems the baddest dudes on the planet (MARSOC, SOCOM, SF community in general) are almost always the most accommodating instructors on the range. They may be sticklers for safety and fundementals but always check their ego, recognize who they are (and are not) working with and make what could be intimidating for some a really enjoyable time and ultimately, make us all better shooters.
Good stuff John! I think many instructors want to be so serious and uptight and it almost makes students be more unsafe bc they get nervous. Even when i went to SWAT school, our instructors were so tight and angry acting that they nearly made you make safety mistakes when guys usually wouldnt.
Pretty cool. I've heard him say several things that show he's all about teaching and helping. Guys getting hurt on unnecessary jumps, the experienced guys holding back helpful skills til you earn them... impressed.
One great carry over I picked up from being a musician is " When in doubt, sit it out". If you aren't sure what to do, doing nothing is less harmful than doing something you aren't sure of.
@@davidwarren719 So an accidental discharge because skippy got excited and shot someone in the gut is more valuable than someone taking the mindset of "I don't know, therefore I won't do this before I do"? Yeah...gonna go with OP and agree. The lesson is, if you don't know something, learn until you do. Taking initiative only applies if you actually have the knowledge to...initiate something worth a shit.
Thank u Sherrif for being welcoming to new shooters. Im a Californian who loves shooting (yeah I known lol) and early on I was almost discouraged by aggro range masters. Some ranges are cliquey and don't take kindly
Watched this dude drop the hammer on a target. He had forgotten to put his ear pro in after a break and was alarmed by the sound and pain. He was like OMG as he's turning around waving a gun in all directions with his finger on the trigger. Instructor got ahold of that weapon real fast, but not before everybody had been muzzled. The instructor was very professional in how he handled it. Nobody else said much about it, but I'm sure they were as uncomfortable about it as I was. Guy obviously realized his error and felt bad about it.
yes we need so much more of this. everybody looks so serious all the time, even in the adds. chick with a pink gun has a death scowl on her face. wtf. lets have some fun and be safe.
It's not what you say,it's how you say it... belittling anyone over a mistake on the range is a mistake. Pull them to the side,away from others,be firm but positive. We all started as novices. People took the time to teach us correctly,with respect and humility. Let's pass on what we've learned to new shooters so we may prevent them from making the mistakes we once may have made. I've been shooting 40yrs now and range manners are getting worse all the time. So take a minute and show them the right way. It may save their life or that of others. Thanks for listening and a good video j mac.
That's what happened every time I went to the Marine range in Coronada decades ago. Kept my focus on the 5"'/54. Wish I was aware of how these guys trained.
I had a negligent discharge at a range back in the day when I first started shooting. But I was following rules (accept keeping my finger off the trigger with a cocked hammer), the revolver was pointing down range so when it went off, the bullet went where it was suppose to. NEVER had another ND since!
I once flagged all my buddies with a 12 gauge shotgun. Their reaction was priceless, they all dropping on the ground like flies and yelling at me and cussing. I was just excited and oblivious to what I've just done. I don't do that anymore though.
These rules are the same as the swedish police teach. 5th does not apply since we dont use a gun with a normal safety. The Sig Sauer has two but they are connected to the trigger.
yeah, I remember the first time I was at training, the guy next to me was a bit nervous, after we were told to cease fire after the first rounds went off - of course he let off one by accident (thank god it was down range) and BOY did he get his ass chewed off,,,,,,,Big time.
I would probably train under the instruction of this man if I had the opportunity. He knows how to treat people with respect. There is a time and place for everything. Entry level beginner firearms class for civilians who just want to learn how to protect themselves, their families and their homes from bad guys is not the time and place for Marine recruit boot camp type training with all its yelling and screaming, although there may come a time after that when tougher training is called for. Some trainers out there have big personal issues, are grossly insecure, put on the macho act to cover it up, and make themselves feel good about themselves, and wrongly run even their elementary beginner classes like boot camps, screaming and yelling at and denigrating their entry level students. You can find two of them here on their own RU-vid channels. I'm not saying that students need to have their feelings tip-toed around. I'm just saying that everyone has the right to be treated with respect. If I'm going to go into a ,and be screamed at, then the instructor needs to pay me a fee rather than me paying him.
There is always that one guy who fans his gun before or after he takes a shot. Makes a lot of us nervous. This is why I get the lane farthest away from people
Treat-every weapon as if it were loaded. Never-point a weapon at anything you don’t intend to shoot. Keep-your finger straight and off the trigger until you’re ready to fire. Keep-your weapon on safe until you intend to fire. OORAH USMC
Always good to be reminded of the basics. I've only had to have one person removed from a class; he was a joker and not safe. No one was sorry to see him go. (But I was nice about it.)
The basics are the corner stone laid on bedrock. If we don't start there and maintain that the structure will crumble. Houses built on sand fall. Bedrock first.
I’ve had to redirect a muzzle before quite a few times but I never get pissed about it I just talk to the person and make sure they understand what happened if they do it multiple times then I’ll get a little more aggressive not full on assrape I still won’t cuss at them but my tone is more aggressive
How about a demo. Take it from uncasing the weapon(s) to finishing the drill, safely stowing your gear and collecting your brass without disrupting others. DO NOT PASS THE FIRING LINE TO COLLECT BRASS ON A HOT RANGE!!!
John is the Real Deal Holyfield!! He realizes this is not Delta Force and people are there to learn!! Most people are not tier one soldiers like the Shrriff of Baghdad!! 😂😂😂😂
Before you ever even handle a gun you should know basic firearms safety. If you don't have someone to teach you those rules this is the information age and it's easy to find them out on your own. Tactical classes aren't meant to teach you which end the bullets come out of, you should already know the basics.
Jamy McTaylor you are probably one of those guys who grew up being yelled at and denigrated from the time you were a little kid, yelled at and denigrated by some asshole parent who took their own troubles out on you. It screwed you up. There is a time and place for yelling and denigration, like in the making of a Marine. But little kids aren't Marine recruits.
It is always great to listen carefully to explanations from people like Shrek. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and expertise in this kind of footage! Thanks to Trigger Time TV! On a side note, it would be helpful to non English speakers, if you enable your videos for community contribution.
I mean, that you could enable the option for community contribution in your videos, so anybody could provide a translation of the subtitles. support.google.com/youtube/answer/6052538?hl=en
"Shrek" vids put out good dope, bring him back for a new series of vids in 2021. Additionally, leave the "ass raping" for DI's. Look at it this way, "Ass raping" a paying custom, does not a 'Great five star' rating on your school testimonial, or a returning customer make. Oh, yeah, and its not polite on a guys first date to class.
What would you consider reasonable when it comes to carbines with safeties? After you shoot you should be able to put it on safe and have it pointing down while leaving the shooting stance. Or would you consider it better to clear the weapon first after each session?
I have always wondered about the "always keep the gun on safe until you're shoot" rule when it comes to Remington 700 series. What is the purpose of not being able to put the weapon on safe until it is chambered? I don't know if this is a "feature" on all Remington 7 series, but it certainly is on my 710.
I know I was in the Army but I think that is actually what you civis need. I was getting rodded off the range first time with M16. I started to turn towards drill sergeants so they could inspect my rifle...i proceeded to get slammed to the ground and yelled at and smoked. I never have flagged anyone since. I just think that that's the best technique. I obviously agree with Mr. McPhee on everything he is just giving an actual what you can do with society
jason shink I wasn’t the Pvt who flagged anyone, but I was standing right there watching the choke slam that ensued and that was enough of a deterrent for me not to fuck up on the firing line, or even when it was clear, for that matter. Making an impact like that isn’t always bad because it’s gonna leave an impression vs a soft tone coddle.
I'd like to say that our licensing system here in Canada with the courses you have to take prevents this sort of thing, but the reality is that between writing the exam and getting your license it could be 3 to 6 months before you get a gun and are on a range. New shooters, even in our system, are notorious for these sorts of fuck ups. I agree though that yelling at someone is NOT going to help them or anyone else!
one more thing if your new to shooting or just never been on a range other then out behind the barn ,if you don't know ask someone that works their they'll explan the range rules to you that's what they get payed for don't endanger others just becouse you don't know and are to proud to say so all of us and the range masters were the new guy once apon a time
I trained at an NRA HQ range, I came off the line with an unloaded weapon, and a hooah civilian came straight at me with his hands up, essentially in my face. Instinctively I took an offensive posture. Well, needless to say I was in trouble, told I had committed a range violation.
