The thing that bothers me about the movie freaky fusion is that they never covered up the butterfly effect or in the mh world the bat effect. They interacted so much when they time traveled without causing any troubles. My guess Is that when they traveled back in time and messed with the time line the reboot happened.
@@edin6380 Oh that's a good one. Yes I always wondered about that. I guess in the past Frankie went back and stopped her grandpa? Well honestly...I never understood time travel because how do two times run at the same time?
At 6:09 for goulia (I don’t know how to spell her name) she can only was born a zombie confirmed at some kind of event but there is a clip out there where it does say Goulia has a zombie mum and zombie dad who loved each other very much and then they had a zombie child who was once a zombie kid and is now a zombie teen This is why she does not rot
10:27 isn't Ever After High also in the same universe as Monster High? There’s an episode where Cupid switches schools goes through a portal to get to Ever after high and her body changes, the same thing happens when characters go to the wonder land dimension and “Ghost” dimensions.
The fact that Ever After High and Monster High were supposed to have a crossover but it never happened just irks me. Idk the reboots don’t make sense to me and the cancellation of EAH after ticked me off. We were robbed of what could’ve been the biggest and best thing in cartoon history. I need my closure. I’m pretty sure a lot of fans would watch both shows had they been started up again with the original plots. Idk I just feel like a piece of my childhood is missing and we were robbed of the answers we needed.
My guess the reason why for the cancellation of EAH is because of Disney descendants. They’re both similar in comparisons and everyone focus was on descendent so ever after high couldn’t continue competing. I would love to see the crossover movie cause MH and EAH mentioned each other in episode/movies. As well as continue watching ever after high.
That's the thing we're being robbed left and right, yet there's some people saying to suck it up. Move on because they're no longer going to be catering to the older Monster High fans, we're allowed to share our thoughts/ opinions regardless though. 😃
Vampires don't age. Read draculaura's backstory, she's not the biological daughter of Dracula, she was born human from human parents who died, dracula then turned her into a vampire to save her from the plague. Vampires are in the undead category.
@@kingdomorange2 Her backstory says she and her mother lived with dracula for years after her father died when she was a baby, then her and her mother got the plague while dracula was away, her mom died before he got back and so he could only save draculaura
@@kingdomorange2 she was turned into vampire, not an original yet. She had to go through the process slowly and I guess it finally finished when she was 16/1600 yrs old which then means she stops aging.
In "Frights Camera Action" it didn't really bother me that nobody recognized Elissabat as Veronica. What bothered me was that Elissabat and Draculaura had been close friends in the vampire court, but Elissabat didn't react at all to seeing Draculaura walk through her door after 400 years. Draculaura hadn't changed her name or her appearance. So why didn't Elissabat react with some kind of shock or surprise, or try just a bit too obviously to hide her face from Draculaura in case she recognized Elissabat?
I think she did but she hid it. Right before she shows herself in her trailer, she hides away her glasses, showing she had time to prepare her reactions.
Probably bc she wanted to move past her previous life as a different person I mean she is an actor so I suppose she can control her actions and emotions before it’s expected, I guess she was sincere enough to offer an autograph instead of getting them kicked out of her studio lol
I love this video, but I think there are some things that I can clear up. 1. It was confirmed somewhere that Ghoulia was born a zombie. With that in mind, I think that zombies age, but not at the same pace as most mortals (I heard this *somewhere* but I can't find a source ATM) 2. Draculaura does not age. In her diary, she was born a human was turned after almost succumbing to a plage that ravaged her village. Dracula turned her in order to save her life 3. I assume Gigi is Immortal due to how genies tend to work in fiction and Rochelle is undead as... she's a rock. I imagine that Honey and Jinafire do age and die. As for how they age? I have no clue. 5. Mu guess for whether Monsters are a minority or not? Both, depending on where you go. I think that Monster High was built in the human world and the catacombs are a portal into the monster world. In the human world, monsters are a minority with a few communities in certain places and other portals into the monster world. In the monster world, places like Scaris, Hauntlywood and New Gorleans can exist. I think most of the continuity errors are just because Mattek is lazy and forgot things later down the line as they continued to make more movies. Even so, it still makes for an interesting universe!
Yeah and not only that at the time that was the most successful they stop the line of monster high and decide to do an reboot, I think that if they had continue with the original seria, I think we would have more explanation of this and more facts.
if i remember Jinafire could technically be an immortal bc shes based off of chinese dragons. they were seen as gods in the mythos but i’m not entirely sure
@Cincoat I never meant that they were oppressed, or anything. I was just assuming that there were completely separate worlds based on the existence of New Salem as a "human city" and other cities only having monsters
TBH the main thing I don't get is why Draculaura is in high school because she is 1600. Yes, she she may not be aging much or at all, but even if you don't have you should still *graduate.* Seems Draculaura has been flunking her classes over and over until she's become a super senior to an extreme degree lol.
I mean, not all cameras use mirrors, specially nowadays. Also, Vampires do have reflections, they just aren’t reflected by silver, because silver is a pure metal.
Well that may be true in mythology...but the MH cartoon clearly showed that Draculaura couldn't do her makeup easily because she couldn't see herself in a mirror or during picture day, we couldn't see her face in the picture... What I remember though is this entry in Draculaura's diary where she said that she was so hyped because Cleo found a spell to make her visisble in mirrors... So vampires could achieved to be seen in mirrors, photos or films thanks to certain spells
I read that she was tricked into being mummified alive (along with her dad and sister) with magical bandages or something and that the bandages are what keep her able to live a semi-normal life but if she takes them off then her true age shows and she'd likely die Of course... my memory is pretty bad so I could've gotten things wrong
Cleo and Ghoulia are literally besties and she can also understand her, I guess she just doesn’t speak it verbally in the webtoons or movies. Also mummies and zombies are little bit more different but the reason why Cleo may not act like Ghoulia may be because she isn’t autistic. It has been confirmed that Ghoulia has autism, but I like how in the diaries she tries to differentiate herself from her disabilities.
One thing that I never got about monster high is Opereta as a character, in both the phantom of the opera musical and novel the Phantom himself isn't a monster nor a ghost, he's just a man living under the opera house with a facial disfigurement hence the mask. it's just odd to me that considering this opereta is considered a phantom herself
@@waifau9093 While they did not specify which Phantom it's heavily implied even by her name that it's the Phantom of the Opera . Even just by her name being Opereta. But it could just be a fun reference and not actually facts.
Forget my previous comment it is actually stated in her description that she is in fact the daughter of The Phantom of the Opera and someone else who isn't known.
I was lowkey hoping that you were going to talk about how Robecca Steam's heart is diffrent in frights camera action and ghouls rule, that little part never made any sense to me and it slightly annoyed me. Of course it's a small detail that I think not many noticed but i feel like it would make more sense if they made her have a similar and/or same heart instead of a completly diffrent one
I think the heart thing was more of a false one like a trick or that the vampire heart really isn’t what powers robecca but what give her emotions as we didn’t see Ghoulia putting Robecca together at once
8:47 I headcanon that Viperine and the makeup team use cosmetics so Elissabat shows up on camera, contacts and powders and such. That brings up one thing that has always confused me, the inconsistencies with vampire makeup in MH. Draculaura can be wearing a complex eyeshadow design that doesn't show up in a mirror but have blush on her nose that does at the same time. It just can't be explained
Maybe its like real life where fancy vampire makeup is super expensive and high end and since shes only a teenager she uses the cheap stuff that they sell anywhere for anyone
Something I don't understand about the reboot is that that only kept a few humanoid looking characters. A lot of the characters in the films don't look like dolls at all, there's a slider knockoff, cartoons skeletons, and a plushy fluffy yeti monster that looks really weird next to Abby in the show. It's hard to sell dolls if your characters aren't doll compatible.
Maybe their “monster age” is based on their physical age and all the monsters (except for the immortals) age differently. As for vampires maybe they age like normal humans until about their teen years and then it slows down.
Honestly I think MH is one of those stories that you don't try digging too much into and you just have to accept it as is. It has so many versions,dolls,films ,web series etc I think it's natural that this would happen. I don't think it was created with too much deep philosophical world building and whatnot, it was just for kids(and us) to enjoy. But it's nice to see the theories, questions and head cannons people have.(and see a group of overthinkers like me lol) And now...to watch the video
Here’s something that sort of never made sense to me that involves Monster High and Ever After High. At the end of Boo York Boo York, Astra Nova is seen talking to Raven and Apple (I think) and it was made clear that no one in that universe believes that Monster ?High exists until Astra ended up there. Seems logical until you remember that C.A. Cupid originally was a part of Monster High before crossing over to Ever After High. Did Cupid seriously never talk about the Monster world? Or anyone question where this random girl who literally appears out of nowhere came from considering everyone knows everybody and their families’ stories and history? This is a huge plot hole that definitely needed to be explained in either franchise.
I remember hearing that but it is annoying that the people of Ever After High don’t believe that Monsters exist considering they are storybook characters and do have some monsters and creatures found at Monster High and Cupid appeared one day out of nowhere literally to those same people and no one ever questioned where she came from. I just want to hear why the people of Ever After High don’t believe in Monsters existing.
8:48 Actually, it's believed that the reason vampires cannot be seen in mirrors is that traditionally, mirrors were made using silver and vampires cannot touch silver as it harms them. As in modern times mirrors aren't made with silver, vampires could hypothetically be seen in them, or at least through other means such as photos or film. While Monster High clearly doesn't use the silver explanation, since vampire cannot be seen in mirrors and it is safe to assume they use modern mirrors in the school, a similar line of reasoning could be why Elizabat can be filmed. That or it's just for plot convenience
In regards to the Dayna Treasure Jones thing, I’m pretty sure that whole line was originally designed to be part of G1. The Monster High reboot was so rushed that there wasn’t time to prepare certain doll lines, so they reused some of their original design and ideas. They probably forgot to edit Dayna’s bio, especially since there was no movie for this doll line. I also believe Garrett stated that there was suppose to be a Return To Skull Shores movie and people have speculated that these doll lines were suppose to be that.
Oh my god! I didn't know there was a Return to Skull Shores movie planned! Thats exciting! I do have a weird feeling like it would've been kinda boring though ....or maybe not
I think one of the biggest problems we tend to have is our association with classical lore. For example, it is true that vampire do not reflect in mirrors in the "general" lore and in Monster High, but it does not have to be like that always. Vampires do not have to be intolerant of garlic just because it is what is usually believe. For example, Ghosts. In general terms, ghost can not have kids but it is obvious that in Monster High they can because although we know that Spectra was human and die, other ones is implied that they are the sons and daughters of other ghosts. This is the same that with zombies. I think, in general terms, there are two ways of becoming a monster. You can die and transform into that creature in some cases like vampires, ghosts, zombies, mummies and maybe even werewolfs or you can be the son or daughter of a monster. All monster can reproduce, even though for us can be weird. Anyways, I have written to much. Your video is fantastic! I love it! PD: Why Scarah and Operetta are not translucid? Simple, they are tecnically not ghosts. Banshees are part of the fae tradition of Irish/Gaelic mythology, they are more connected with fairies than ghosts and although Operetta is the Phantom of the Opera's daughter...the Phantom of the Opera is tecnically not a ghost, it is just a very dramatic name. Why are they see as "ghosts" although they are not? Probably because banshees are very connected with death like ghosts. Operetta is more complicate though.
Honestly I think MH is one of those stories that you don't try digging too much into and you just have to accept it as is. It has so many versions,dolls,films ,web series etc I think it's natural that this would happen. I don't think it was created with too much deep philosophical world building and whatnot, it was just for kids(and us) to enjoy. But it's nice to see the theories, questions and head cannons people have.(and see a group of overthinkers like me lol) And now...to watch the video
Btw, most of my knowledge of banshees is from "Teen Wolf", so I agree with you on that part. Banshees are basically just creatures that warn humans about someone who's at the point of death by screaming. So they're technically not ghosts like you said. However, Spectra(or the reaper girl) mentions in one of the MH films(the one where they go to haunted high) that banshees are a type of ghost. Anyways...
I think the ghost world thing shouldn't apply to banshees at all because traditionally they are fae, not spirits, tho in MH they are some type of ghost
i just rewatched mh: great scarrier reef and i noticed one thing that bothered me the whole day. when deuce tried to petrify the kraken, it just backfired and got deuce petrified instead. i really didn’t get it because wasn’t it medusa’s stare the very thing that killed the kraken in mythology?
Also, the monster in the myth wasn't a kraken. It was a sea monster called Cetus. It is sometimes called the Kraken, but that's been used as a catch-all term for sea monsters I've noticed. I'm guessing you're more familiar with the clash of the Titans movie?
Ok, I got this, I have been waiting for this! Check this out: Using the source material of Operetta's father (yes, we're talking about the OG Phantom of the Opera) The reason she's both is because he's both. Confusingly depending on which version of the source You've seen (ahem, 2004 movie) he is usually depicted as a fully solid normal human man just with a messed up face from either a Birth Defect, or a horrible fire. *BUT in the original book!* He was described (the few times he actually appears in his own book-) as being both. The short version? Ghosts are ALWAYS non-solid. Spectres (Hence Spectra) are non solid and can partially become solid/interact with physical objects. Phantom's though! Can seamlessly transition between the two with little to no trouble! Hence why Operetta and her father are BOTH! :D The original phantom could walk through walls, and even appeared to fly at one point if memory serves, from when I read the book like 8-10 years ago. Hence why Operetta is solid but can become a non-solid later in the ghost world.
One thing I didn’t understand is, how in “New Ghoul at School” when Frankie tries out for the fearleader team Draculaura and Clawdeen are already in the team, but in a webisode where most of the fearleader team quits (Toralei, her friends and some other ghouls) and only Frankie stays, she asks Draculaura and Clawdeen to join the team, because they weren’t part of it yet.
I always thought that Monster High took part in a separate dimension from the human world but the bridge between those dimensions became weak during Halloween which would allow each being from those dimensions to cross to the other
There are a lot of parts of g1 monster high that contradict one another, so the way I think of it is that there are a few different timelines (diaries, movie timeline a, movie timeline b, webisodes, etc.) that only overlap if they explicitly reference each other (ex. Torelei’s basic doll diary). Some doll diaries, ofc, would only be canon to the movies or the webisodes, but things might make more sense if you think of it this way (it also explains how a character might be completely different in the movies than they are in their diary and stuff like that). Also, to go into detail in the separate movie timelines- there are some (the early ones) where monsters are a minority, and there are others (the later ones) that imply monsters are a majority. These are incompatible ideas, to some degree, but it makes more sense to me to have them take place in different timelines.
I think there are also different timelines in the movies themselves. Like ghouls rule is in a diff universe from the location movies (spec. Boo York, Scaris, Frights Camera etc)
Frankies age is clearly a source of stress to most writers because most agree she’s 15 days old when she meets the others but bringing up her age after that means they gotta put a timeline on thing and open themselves up to plot holes
With ghosts and zombies, I feel like there might be two types: 1) ghosts/zombies that were born human but died would maybe stay the same age forever, and 2) ghosts/zombies that were born as such and age incredibly slowly, possibly stopping once reaching adulthood (adulthood could be taken as maybe the age of full cortical development [25 years, and honestly kinda debatable for zombies] or maybe mid-age as an arbitrary set point)
The age gap between Draculaura and Clawd. She's 1600 and she used to baby sit him when he was a puppy. My mind was blown when that revaluation came out. Since she baby sat him, that means she would have changed his dirty nappies and saw his.... You know... So awkward....
really?? because I remember a similar line that Clawdeen told her younger sister when she was having a crush on another werewolf during the moon season or something.
My daughter was barely born when Monster High first came out but through youtube, bargain dvds and ebay finds, she absolutely loves the original characters and toys. I can already tell that she is not going to like the new stuff if they've changed it so much.
In general ancient Egyptian history, who ever was mummified was someone who could afford it. Royalty within Egypt, had their servants either executed to join them in the afterlife or had paintings of servants in their tombs to join them.
I mean in all honesty they could've been really distant cousins as it wasn't uncommon for siblings to get married, but I'm highly confident Monster High would never ever touch on that topic.
in the live action movie, there is the ''monster'' and the ''human'' world, they are separated by the portal so it gives more sense to boo york, scaris but not to ghoul rule
In 6:50, I think Rochelle is undead/mortal. Her stone body may have physically ageing. Jinafire is similar to Draculaura. She may age slowly Honey swamp and Gigi is mortal. Gigi no longer be a genie that make wish. She may starts ageing.
You have to keep this in mind, the show and films were made with the purpose of selling toys, they don’t care about consistency and lore. You’re going to get plot holes and unanswered questions.
Reccently, in my college writing class, the professor asked us to do a film review as it would be relatively easy. I decided to write it on the second generation film Monster High: Electrified because when I orignally watched it, I found that the writing or plot wasn't enough or done right. The main problem is with the first film and ITS problems. So do monsters have a civilization or not? Because we are told that monsters went into hiding and whatnot but they also have a monster internet/web? Not only that many of the monsters are very "civilized" and while it might be dumb or kinda weird to have monsters act "not-human" at the same time, what would be the point of acting human if they are not human if that makes sense. Obviously the other problem is the writing. For example, why do Frankie and Draculaura (and her friends) want to befriend humans? Their original goal was to make a school so that other monsters could live "normal" lives like humans. Humans shouldn't even be something they want to deal with. If the writers or whoever were the ones that wanted to make it more "kid-friendly" where everyone should be your friend or whatever, they should have at least done a better job. In Welcome to Monster High, when Draculaura talks to the pop star (i forgot her name) and the star acted scared of her, wanting to blend in, it made Draculaura upset but eventually we found that she is a ghost (so a monster) that wanted to be part of the human world and whatnot. They could have easily used that point or idea for the next film, in Electrified. Maybe in the next movie, Draculaura is scared because she doesn't want her friends to get hurt, which could be emphasized with the fact that in the opening scene humans are chasing a wolf (who is a werewolf named Silvi). She tries to kindly discourage her friend Clawdeen from creating her fashion/beauty salon in the human town so her friends convince her to visit the town with them to look around in the town for a nice place to make it. She is terrified at first but eventually starts enjoying the town and its culture and people but an accident occurs where it terrifies her friends (maybe her as well) from the humans and so they give up on their plan to open the salon or befriend humans. But then the popstar/ghost is able to convince them or share stories why they shouldn't give up on befriending humans. Sure, humans can be mean, scary, and hurtful but a lot more of them are kind and caring and all that blah blah blah bs. But instead the movie is all over the place introducing Silvi, the boogymans's daughter, and has a band that adds nothing to the film, not even the boogyman's daughter adds something (yes she looked for clues for Frankie but take her out and give her role to frankie, and it would be a somewhat much better movie because then the lesson of "you shouldn't be afraid to ask for help or you shouldn't do things alone" would have a more impactful lesson/)
Also, why are the monsters going to school? Like i know our reason is because we need to be educated to get a job but a monster? would they get a job? not in the reboot reality, of course, it could be argued that its so that one day they could but like it isn't explained and that issue isnt even brought up. Maybe if they made another movie, they could have made the topic "We go to school to be more human or act more human". This could work because then the converasation could be had about "coding" (if im remembering that correctly) how we change ourselves to have a certain "code" with certain people, for example, when black people use a "white" voice with cops so that they aren't killed or are not treated dumb if that makes sense. The monsters could have a discussion about if they should act more human or be "monsters" but respected. If its even possible for some monsters to act human as some can't be, for example, the skelotons.
I always assumed that the human world and the monster world were separate. Monsters used to be a part of everyday life but humans drove them out due to fear and they founded new lands elsewhere, like a whole new plane of existence, that sometimes overlapped with humanity in certain places. So they could have travel back and forth, yet have entire cities and such in similar places to the human world. We see something similar with the Ghost world in one movie, but hearing everything else has me doubting now 😅
I always assumed the ghosts simply died at a certain age and then didn't age, so spectra could've died at 16 while let's say polter could've died at 17. Therefore they can have different ages and still not age
my first piece of monster high media was a reboot movie 😳, I kinda arrived late! but being now a massive fan, I can definitely say that I do not like massive changes to the ghouls with every new reboot or series
Operetta might be a solid in the normal world because the phantom of the opera is, and when she’s in a full ghost world, she just becomes a ghost too, idk sorry.
So in the book series following Rebecca Steam, Venus Flytrap, and Rochelle Goyelle, Monster High is actually indeed a boarding school. The trio is described in a dorm together and I believe Wydowna has one as well. Or she gets one eventually. It's kinda implied, from what I remember, that dorms are optional, if you don't have family to live with close by to the school but you still want to attend,
I've seen it been theorized that the reason Spectra's backstory is so full of contradictions is because she actually lies about herself to both make her seem more interesting like her gossip blog, and/or to cover up trauma. Because of this we really have no way of knowing what is and isn't true about Spectra and how ghosts work.
I thought Robecca was a robot, not undead. And isn't Elle E Dee also a robot? Plus, for a mummy to reach the Afterlife, they have to be completely intact. Poor people couldn't afford mummification so they were usually buried in mass graves. So only royalty and nobility would have been in perfect condition and thus allowed in the Afterlife. Except for all the ones whose graves were desecrated. I bet Cleo's family hid their crypt under another crypt like Tutankhamun.
kinda off topic but the MH book series mentioned at 10:40 is actually a very very good young adult/teen book series. like its more mature and very well written, ive had them for years (like since it came out) and I expected it to be like a more "childish" and young book series similar to how MH's movies and web series are written but I didnt expect it to be a young adult book/teen series and I didnt expect it to be so well written, so well structured and mature, its overall just a very good book series and storyline. I strongly recommend reading the series to anyone who hasn't.
I always thought the vampire heart worked like a lineage detector. When stoker is looking for the next queen, he looks at a large board with vampire court members and chooses Draculaura, but just above Drac and D.Laura we can see Elissibat's family. With vampires being immortal, and being able to turn or birth their own children, I'd assume lineage would get...messy. especially since they used to be racist and only associated with other vamps. So if the "court" is made up of the "descendants" of the OG vamp, the VH would act like a heir detector for the court on who had the strongest claim. If a turned vamp and a born vamp come into existence at the same time, whose got more pull? Probably the biological vamp, right? But you don't have any born and suddenly its turned over to a vamp whose been turned who can go on to have kids of their own and make a totally biologically yet, legally royal new line. So when the last queen died, she might not have had children of her own, or they had passed away and the bloodline was thought to be ended. Unless there was something in the diaries that says otherwise, I haven't read them yet, I'm falling down a rabbit hole of hyper focus lol 🤣 I mean, it's not a sword in the stone kinda deal where they just walked around letting any vamp ghoul touch it and see if she was chosen, right?
This might help to why mummies don't have to be royalty. In Egypt often times people close to the Pharaoh like their servers could be buried in the tomb with them. So it can explain why Mr mummy or others outside the royal family could've been mummies. Hope that helps!
Well vampires being able to appear in film could actually be chocked up to the original mirror lore around vampires. It wasn't so much that their reflections and images couldn't be seen, but at the time mirrors where made with silver components. And it was said that the silver was to pure of a metal for the vampires reflection to show up. We could reason that they still use silver-backed mirrors in the monster world.
8:58 The origin of the fact that vampires, in myth, cannot be seen in mirrors is because back then, mirrors were made with silver, which was commonly a weakness for many mythical monsters. So arguably, she could be seen in photos, but honestly I don't think Monster High thought about it either way.
With the mummy thing, I believe it’s because only people of a certain status were mummified during that time. Regular, lower caste people were buried in the sand. With Cleo and Set, it totally checks. So my guess with Mr. Mummy and other mummies is that he could have been someone of higher rank that had been mummified.
Initially I wasn't thinking about origins of monsters in Monster High. When I started I just assumed they all were born this way (except Franky). Interesting point
something I thought about a lot last year: monster high official release was 15 days after frankie's creation I believe. and the monster high timeline follows the 2010s. this means that right now frankie is 12 years old and will spend almost 18 years in high school. Gen 1 frankie will graduate with class of 2028 Next, since the monsters and humans live in the same world, we have diverse monsters in the USA, Romania and Japan have vampires, etc. So does that mean that there are skeletons casually walking the streets of mexico? also, at some point those skeletons were probably real people, but what did they look like?
Great video. Personally, I think Draculara probably went through school multiple times because she aged so slowly and wanted to keep socializing with other monsters.
Same i was thinking. I actually immediately thought of Twilight when he brought that up. Cos Edward goes through high school several times before the high-school in Twilight since he looks permanently 17 years old.
Vampires had no reflection because a lot of old mirrors were made with a backing of silver. Since the superstition is that vampires can be killed by silver, they can't reflect off of it. Pictures and film would be a-ok in that way ;)
Why wasn’t Jackson/Holt in the freaky fusion movie???? Even tho he isn’t born of two monsters he’s technically a fusion especially when he has to deal with the whole split personality thing??? He should’ve been in that movie, idk how he could’ve helped but he could’ve helped-maybe this movie and seeing the main girls get along better could’ve helped Jackson & Holt coexist more cause they literally didn’t get along cause their polar opposites
I think the full dialog of what His diary said gives more context...i think that there is definitely quite a few people who probably know about the solid world not being awful , and I'm sure plenty of solid people visit... but I think propaganda plays a huge role In the stigma about it all... as for porter guest saying "most ghosts have never seen a solid" let's keep in mind he seems to be a pretty sheltered guy, so he probably means the people in his area.... just cause someone is a ghost dosent mean their world view is very large.... also its possible that though transportation to and from the ghost is allowed, it disent mean it's easy.... due to the haunting incident, traveling there might be rare, which would add on to why few ghosts (as far as Porters neck of the woods) have seen solids.... also I dint think spectra was ever human since her family is also made up of ghosts....she can still be six teen because monsters age very differently ...also, Draculaura not hearing about it makes sense, she's not exactly a "worldly" person... The phantom of the opera is a solid... also a Banshee can also be interpreted as a type of Fairy.... so Scarah and Operetta being solid really isn't that unusual. Also why do you count Robecca and Elle as undead? They are robots, not reanimated corpses... Also Draculauras aging probably works differently because she wasn't born a vampire. Similarly I think the way ghosts age depends on whether or not they were born a ghost.....also again same thing with zombies, some were born zombies, some became zombies... and that probably affects their aging as well Genies don't succumb to age ... but they can technically be slain .... but they will reincarnate presumably as the same person good as new.... Honey Swamp monster is presumably entirely mortal, perhaps with a rather large lifespan Gargoyles are not immortal but they live vastly long lives and would be hard to kill Long/Chinese Dragons are pretty much immortal, they can be hurt though.... but death isn't really a thing for them. Maybe Elisabat's ability to show up on film is a hint to what makes her different from other vampires, and is a further clue as to why the heart chose her. I think in the case of cleo and her family ... they became mummies because they have bandages blessed by anubis... this is probably why the majority of them seem to be in great condition despite being corpses... I think those who honor anubis probably look better... those who don't, look worse, such as the backgrounder , mr.mummy, And Even Cleos father.... Cleo And Nefera are arrogant but they dint see themselves as beyond the gods... but their fathers ego allows him to see himself as above God's.... hence why the blessed bandages didn't work as well for him.... Also, its possible that blessed bandages were given to royal family members and Mortal Servants.... and perhaps some Servants simply broke ties after resurrection.... this would also explain the backgrounder and Mr.Mummy.... also Seth is a member of royalty as well... Also , Prejudice in schooling isn't even fair fetched in the real world and to this day is real.... I think some of us may take integration and non isolationist thinking for granted.... that's the whole point of monster high, is to offer unity through diversity and is essentially a slap in the face of ignorance... Also.... my rule is, never question the reboot... cause honestly it just don't count... some elements of it were nice though... but it got tone deaf real quick
I've been re-watching the show, and I can not understand how as a kid I never noticed just how hard Matt3l was trying to sell these dolls. I still love the dolls' unique desings, but now I find it so obvious how the attention put to the different outfits in the web series or movies, or the new characters introduced, or the great number of characters playing somewhat significant roles in a single movie were often marketing strategies :p
This is what I found out recently but most characters have lost their trademarks and can’t be used. I know that Clawd and Spectra are victims of the trademark being lost or inactive.
Also, the setting in the monster high is confusing. In Ghouls Rule, the humans were like 10 minutes away from Monster High. But in movies where they travel, (Boo York, FCA, Paris) all of citizens are monsters.
I’m glad you made this video I agree it’s strange that these topics are marketed to young people. The students are fibbing because there entire academy is the same as cosplayers in theatre. Their origins come from their parents particularly Victor Frankenstein and Hexiciah Steam who imbued the lineage with robot parts and an alien core. Lots of Cosmic influences of Planetary and star constellation so they will learn about how to harness their strength much like ancient mythology
Rochelle is a living rock, so she'd be in the undead category for a slow-aging individual that cannot technically die, but could be destroyed. Honey Swamp, and therefore the rest of the water monster crew, are mortals that age at a slower rate and eventually die but CAN live longer than most living beings (fish can stay alive as long at theyre healthy and have enough resources, etc). Jinafire is a part of Chinese mythology. I'd place her more towards the immortal side, since Chinese dragons cannot die unless killed by another dragon or god. Gigi is a primordial pagan god. Immortal.
About the whole aging thing... what about constructed monsters like Frankie or Robecca? Do they stay the same age they were designed to look? Frankie's bio says she's 16 days old.
I should have known i was gay when i obsessed over the dolls and always talked about how pretty and cute they were. Like Dracaulora was my first crush tbh
I honestly wish that hadn’t changed the original when doing the reboots but just added on to it and made better stories and thicker plots. The animation in the original movies and webisodes were amazing and brought me so much joy as a child, the doll were amazing too. Now that they’ve changed it I feel like they’ve basically ruined it. It’s basically the same with Barbie now too.
I think Dayna was actually a character from 1st generation that was gonna have her own movie called Shriekwrecked, but since the reboot was alredy announced they just launch her doll (along side Draculaura, Clawdeen, Lagoona, Gil, Catrine, Rochelle and Goolliope) without the movie. My guess is that the movie was gonna have as main characters Dayna, Draculaura, Clawdeen Lagoona, Rochelle, Catrine, Gil, Goolliope, Vandala and River, curiously it was gonna go after Haunted and Great Scarier Reef both elements which seems were gonna be part of this movie: Dayna's father was mentioned by Vandala while it maybe was gonna happen near The Great Scarier Reef.
Gigi is in the category of immortal because as you could tell in 13 wishes they tell the story of you know how Gigi was alone and all that stuff and they say that she was like there every single time a person found the lamp for thousands and thousands of years and never change so I think you should put Gigi in immortals
i think the monster world is similar to the wizarding world in harry potter. they are the minority but they have managed to build their own world in hiding. in that case, monster high is like hogwarts, not the only school but the best and most traditional one in the monster world.
So I don't know the answers to most of this, but I can tell you the series and art were rebooted because Mattel lost their contract with Disney and needed to market something to the age group the Disney dolls were selling to, but parents of those young kids found the dolls too scary.
I don’t know much about Monster High myself, but I feel like they should’ve made it so Draculaura was 116, if not 1016. That way she could still age and simultaneously have a lifespan similar to that of a regular vampire.
i have a possible answer for how Elizabat could show up on camera. back in the day it was believed that silver could show your reflection if you had a soul, because silver was originally a vampires weakness, mirrors were backed with silver so they couldnt make reflections bc they didnt have a soul. therefore any use of silver would affect them, my theory is that the cameras are not made using silver, since this is a monster world, they wouldnt make something using an item that is a weakness of a species. just a theory tell me what you think?
Vampires don't show up in mirrors cause mirrors used to have a silver backing or something like that, silver is said to be deadly or at least harmful to all types of monsters so I think that's why elizabat shows up in the films
The mummy is easily explainable with real world evidence. Mummies weren’t only royalty. Some were rich folks who paid to be mummified while other important figures were mummified.
With the ghost world- the river Styx I believe is the river in Greek mythology that removes memories, so perhaps monsters who knew/found out/stumbled upon the monster world would then loose their memories of it if they found it? (Just a theory) also works with the ghost mermaid character who is forgetful and air headed, perhaps because she swam in the water. Idk I’m making shit up at this point
you forgot how Lagoona had stage fright in Great Scarrier Reef even though she was in Dance Class. also how Gargoyles can’t swim even though Rochelle was in Swim Class.
You know what wouldn't make sense? Jackson and Holt's scare-itage (heritage) project. They can't do the normie side (everyone would be PISSED), theres only been three Hydes and Holt is one of them, and Heath would do the fire elemental side because they're cousins. WHAT WOULD THEY DO???
so, to add to River Styxx: she is a reaper, her father is the Grim Reaper. grim reapers are responsible for transporting passed on ghosts and spirits to the ghost world. which means when a person dies and turns into a ghost, they get transported on to that boat and to the ghost world. so the boat is used often (although, they could’ve come up with a better way)
the reason vampires couldnt be seen in mirrors was because the mirrors used to have silver behind the glass to reflect so when the silver reflected on the vampire it couldn't be seen cause it would die but the glass acted sort of as a protective layer, now with how mirrors a put together a vampire could be seen
i think there's different types of gouls that can be made ig? like 2 vampires make another one, same with zombies, ghosts, and other ones. i dint think they all have to come from a dead body. like especially with the fact there's multiple different types of ghosts, some could just stem from a family and not someone dead
I’ve never seen any gays in the original monster high.. I don’t know why the creators didn’t include any homosexual relationships but I know it would have been amazing to see some of the main characters and background characters who weren’t in relationships with each other, but i don’t actually know if there were any because I haven’t watched monster high in a LONG time so if anyone knows any of the gay couples that I missed PLEASE TELL ME I NEED TO KNOW.
also this is a PSA to everyone to not support the live action movie in any way. several characters were whitewashed and cleo isnt even portrayed by a Middle Eastern/egyptian person or even resembles being egyptian or Middle Eastern. clawdeen was practically confirmed to be a lesbian but they've erased that. they've taken out any "foreign" accents. oh yeah....and the director is a whole ass racist who likes to make racist movies for fun. just a whole ass racist movie and director.
The existence of characters like Sirena, River Stix, Vandala, etc. always bothered me because they're the children of ghosts. That means ghosts are able to reproduce and have ghost children. Correct me if I'm wrong but that's not how ghosts become ghosts. How can you die and your spirit give birth to another spirit?? Not to be gross, but how does reproducing even work in the MH universe? Is it different depending on the species?? Something that has been confirmed by the creator is that there wasn't strong communication between the animators and doll designers. This is why you see discrepancies between dolls and their movies, (Example : the hourglass charms on the haunted doll when it's never seen or mentioned in the movie.)
the vampire royalty rules thing reminds me of a show called young dracula i watched as a kid, the crown would choose an heir and it wouldnt always be someone related to the previous heir
I might be misremembering... But Deuce Gorgon's pet is Perseus and I remember somewhere it mentioned that his mother didn't like the name (seeing that it's the name of the Greek hero that beheaded her). And since Posea Reef is daughter of Poseidon... Does that mean Greek Myths are real? And if they are doesn't that mean that Medusa is immortal since she's been behead and lived? And does that mean Deuce is also immortal as well?
What if Ghoulia age was like 32 in actual years of existence. She died at 16, and her monster years began again 1-16. Referincing in monster years, proving that her human years don’t count anymore
Regarding the royalty bit, while yes it usually falls to the next of kin; Whoever is the current head of royalty chooses, it can be any family member. When royalty dies without naming an heir then in some places, a temporary ruler is placed, this is usually someone that the head was close to.
The rage I got when I didn’t see Howleen, Claude and Claudia was so much I didn’t watch the movie until 3 weeks later and I’m still mad as hell about it
Cleo's actually has some type of explanation I remember something about how her family was betrayed and kept in a tomb and someone loyal to their family gave them the bandages before they were kept in there so they wouldn't die, so it has to do with the bandages but honestly it's the gist of it don't try me on it I just remember someone gave them the bandages and they are key for them to live, I guess every other mummy is a traditional one buy they are just a special kind bc of that "miraculous" bandage?
If I remember correctly it was mentioned in frights camera action that the human world is separate from the monster world, which a majority of the monsters fled to so they could avoid malicious humans. So cities like scaris and boo york are in the monster world where as new Salem is in the human world.
I think it wouldn't be unreasonable to assume that each monster would age differently, just like different species of animals mature at different rates, and it isn't consistent throughout their life one to one with humans, but it might operate on more of a bell curve. The use of 'monster years' is confusing, but if thought about in this sense works better. So monster years isn't a literal counter, and it doesn't have a fixed conversion rate, but instead is just an expression of maturity. The only downside of this being that surely some monsters would mature out of teendom much quicker so would barely be in monster high, which could be a cool idea to explore, but would get really messy. A monster could come to MH for like a semester and then leave, only to be a teacher or something when we next see them because of how their species ages, but then you raise questions like why would you even bother going to high school for such a short period, you wouldn't learn enough and the social experience would be all out of whack, and it messes with any attempt at a floating timeline. The much easier solution to this would just be to assume that if a monster is a teen for less than a year they don't bother with high school, or at least not a mixed high school like MH, preferring a specific one which caters to how they age. So I think the best way top assume monster years work is that it looks at a general 'mental aging' of a species to categorise this along the baseline of a human understanding of what different ages look and act like. However, this gets a bit messier again when you start to consider creatures might not follow the same milestones as humans do, so not all species might be born as babies who need constant care, its been a while since I've watched anything, but the best example of this would probably be Frankie, who was just created as a teenager, and so its unclear if she'll remain this way or if she'll continue to age along the lines of humans (though possibly at a different rate) from a teenager into adulthood. It's not exactly created to be a stronghold of science fiction, so you could make many different assumptions about how she'll age, and any of them could hold significant water. The main theory other than normal aging onwards that I can think of is that her age would stagnate until real world years caught up with her body, so she would be 16 for 16 years, and then would begin to age one year per year going forwards, but I'm not sure how you would justify that, most logically she just wouldn't age since she's made of different parts. Which also begs the question, will she remain in monster life her whole life, will she mature mentally past the age of 16?
river styx transports the loving who died to the ghost world i think. the ghost guys diary did say “most ghosts have never seen solids” and maybe the ghosts become ghosts as soon as they die and are ghosts when they get to rivers ship.
I was always confused on how long draculaura would be stuck in school. Will she only be there fir 4 years, or 400? And how can clawd and draculaura date if clawd will age much faster than her, and draculaura had said that she's known him since he was house broken? It was a small joke but I always thought it was odd