Things to consider before having jaw surgery by dr Mike Mew 

Easy to talk about this with a perfect jaw position

"Form and function follow each other" - Dr. Mike Mew. I love that quote because its true for lots of other things in life as well.

Leafy is saving up his RU-vid money for this

I'm teaching my little brother and sister about this. Dont want them to have an ugly underbite like me. I will also teach my baby sister when she gets a little older.

he has a perfect jaw

You definitely practice what you preach, as you have a VERY GOOD LOOKING face. Good job!

In 2006, I was 17-18 years old. I had lower jaw reconstruction sugurey to bring my jaw foward a few mm. I was innitaly soppose to have top and bottom reconstructive surgery but once in recovery room I was told they only did the bottom as they felt I didn't need the top portion done. Also during this operation the surgeon removed 3/4 fully impacted wisdom teeth. The 3rd molar on the right was left in because they needed that tooth to act as stabilizer for the screws in the jaw until the new bone grew back, then they'd remove it. My jaw was wired shut. At the time I had braces on my teeth and my bite wouldn't allign properly with out this particular operation. I was told I could "possibly" lose sensation/feeling in my lower chin lip and lower gums and teeth. However I permanently lost feeling in Lower lip, Chin, teeth & gums. After 10 years nothing has changed other than every now and then I'll get a burning or stinging or pins and needles sensation in certain areas of my chin & lip from time to time. It's annoying but I've learned to live with it. I'm not sure what happened other than the The mandibular inferior alveolar nerve got severed or stretched or pulled or damaged. Even the orthodontist at the time had no clue what happened nor did the surgeon. I was never told it could be permanent. It became a love/hate procedure while the results of my bite and facial construction looked amazing I honestly don't think it was worth losing the feeling to half of my face. Sometimes I'll get this like surge of tickling sensation through a nerve and I badly want to scratch it only to find I can't locate where the itch was coming from then on days I'll have a dull aching feeling in a nerve. Some days it will pulsate like a heart beat some ticklish some tender to the touch. Some days I feel fine some days in a ton of pain. Some days I feel the wind on my face other days I can't. Some days I scratch my chin or lip and get a rush of the ticlkes followed by a few seconds of pins and needles then back to no feeling. Sometimes I scratch I'll feel a mini orgasm in my chin and lip and the nerves will travel to my nose and other parts of my face and make that area start to itch. Since this operation I'm e extremely sensitive to cold water or things touching my chin or bottom lip. At times it's very painful times its feels nice. It's such a complicated thing to explain. I wish I had a way for my nerve to heal but after 10 going on 11 years I've come to terms I'll end up like this for the rest of my life. I wish I knew how to feel in my jaw teeth lip and chin. If any dentist or doctor or orthodontist or anyone in general is reading this and have any information they can provide to me about anything going on with me please let me know. Also what's the probability this nerve can be healed or saved if at all?

Dr. Mark Reichman of Vancouver performed upper and lower jaw surgery on myself in 1997 to fix a malocclusion . The operation left me with a torn palate, ripped through 3 layers of tissue in to my nasal cavity. He attempted to fix the damaged palate with two additional failed operations. The jaw surgery widening was excessive which caused the massive tear. He choose " free grafting" to attempt to seal the torn palate. The first attempt made the hole smaller, the second attempt failed and left extensive scar tissue. I consulted 4 other surgeons and decided to stop allowing him to experiment any further. I have had a plate covering the hole now for 15+ years. I rinse out my nasal cavity after each meal.

'In medicine, it's about treating causes.' I agree this is how it should be; however, the vast majority of doctors only want to give you a bunch of meds, etc., to cover up the symptoms (eg. I had a doc who told me I'd have eczema forever and that I needed to take a steroidal cream to 'deal with it.' I changed things in my diet, and low and behold, my eczema went away). They rarely look into the cause b/c they want you to keep coming back.

The whole time he's talking i'm just miring that jawline.

I've finally seen some videos where you confirmed you can help adults with jaw/teeth alignment issues... I'm so desperate to get your treatment I would sell a kidney.

I wish I had seen these videos when they came out or sooner. I just had double jaw surgery 1 week ago to fix my underbite and I wonder if someone taught me proper tongue posture when I was young if I could have avoided it. Although the surgery really isnt that horrible anymore with new technologies so its not a huge deal like it was around the time when this video came out

jealous of his jawline

So calming listening to Mew. He is a true professional. I remember this guy from the incel forum days, he is a true legend.

Life is all about "finding causes" ! ! ! Thanks for another great video.

I’ve had jaw surgery. Horrific but amazing results

Leafy would do anything

So I agree you should treat the cause when possible, but you don’t do jaw surgery without not being able to change the cause. In my younger years my lower jaw simply did not grow enough, no braces, nothing helped. With the failed treatment enough time had passed for my jaw to not grow anymore. This left me with an overbite of 2,5 cm. I’m sorry but it’s just not functional. I had to tear everything I ate with my mullers, because my front teeth at no point would be together. I don’t regret a thing. I can eat normally, breath normally, close my lips, etc. It was one of the best things I ever did, even though it was only a year ago. It changed my life so much, so don’t be scared away by this. If it would improve your functioning and quality of life, do it if you want to.

I've had two surgeries... mainly because I had my first surgery too young. I was 16 and my jaw wasn't fully grown in yet. This caused me to get a second surgery. It's been about 8 years now and I haven't had a relapse *knock on wood*.

Leafy should get this

He is right, I had a bad relapse on my first jaw surgery. I had a forward head posture, tongue on the base of the mouth and constantly pressing against my upper teeth. The work done by the braces and the surgery were all destroyed and I ended up with very bad pain due to having only 2 back teeth contacting when I chew. Had to redo both braces treatment and double jaw surgery by a different surgeon and orthodontist.

LIfting the back of the tongue lowers the shoulders and shoulder blades

Don't focus on his looks, focus on his bone structure. It's actually very good.

I regret this surgery, I was happy before it. And it took a cute toll o me, my spirit, my mind and my body. I'm 8 months post surgery and I feel miserable. I have trouble concentrating. My body isnt the same as it uses to be, and I have constant headed. Before the surgery I was working on my toungue posture and considered myself atractive and confident. I'm neither confident, nor feel healthy. My speech has also changed. Mayne it was because I'm in a stressful environment.

i’ve always had my tongue in the “perfect” position and yet i still have an overbite/ slightly weaker lower jaw... 🤷🏼‍♀️

So surgery is fine as long as it achieves the same goal as Orthotropics. Jesus that title needs to change.

Dear Mr Mew, I deeply believe you have put some rather substantial recommendations forward in this video. I closely understand your rationel and strongly agree with your suggestions, however, one question that has surged concerns the extent to which it is possible to further implement "proper tongue posture", "tongue chewing", as well as other methods for facial betterment that you propose after a possible jaw operation has been undertaken. To explicitly tell whether surgery or alternative methods are more effective, it is essential to understand how the face will function differently after a jaw surgery. Especially with the advancements taking place, what real impact does a jaw surgery deliver surrounding "form/shape" and how can this affect the methods you are suggesting?

Getting this surgery, thank god i live in Denmark and dont have to pay anything lol

So, what's the perfect tongue position, I need a video or image.

Can someone explain what he's saying?

Dr. Mew, I'm 33 and had an orthognatic surgery 4 years ago. Is mewing still gonna work for me? How will that affect my results?

Just mew to get Chad jawline br0. Surgery is the only way I've tried mewing for 2 years its cope

I have read you can't change the position of the maxcilla when your bones are fully developed

I'm getting MMA surgery next year due to Obstructive sleep apnea. This doctor has no idea why you SHOULD get these. At this point of what untreated OSA has done to my body all these years, I'm willing to risk this "unperfected" surgery. I'm willing to chance a numbed jaw. A worst posture, etc. He's never had to deal with waking up every single day. Every day. Affecting your personal life. Work life. When everything else fails like CPAP, the risks are worth it.

Dude, there is no way my tongue is gonna give me all the centimeters of bone that my jaw is missing... I need surgery 😪

Who titled this? He was not saying not to have jaw surgery at all! He was advising not to ignore the reason for...IE tongue placement. Why title this, to discourage a helpful procedure? My guess the poster is not a medical professional.. GAL...

I have prefect tounge posture even at rest. Still I have a receded lower jaw. 🤦

you're a good man dr. mike mew.

only he can actually know the right way to Mewing, i mean just look at this mans jaw...

Thank you , I was trying to think of this for over 12 hours

Man I am fucked. I live in Serbia. NO orthotropic treatments here or anything like that.

Of course mr handsome fucking squidward over here is talking

bit late now. ive had surgery and it sucks

25y/o went to a consultation with an Orthotropist, and was reffered to a surgeon for a double jaw surgery...

Can this fix my flat face?? Because im good looking in front but if i do side view u can only notice my nose but u cant see my cheekbone and maxilla

we're all gonna make it brahs

#NoChin

Mewing actually really changes the bone postition in adults? I thought bones are fused?

Is the relapse from jaw surgery due to the wrong tongue posture though? I mean intially people who have breathing problems don't have their tongue in the correct place and just naturally have relapsing maxillas.

Please open a practice in the States!

I just had my lower jaw brought forward 18mm on December 22nd 2017. My bite is not aligned correctly now. I wish I would have known more about this before getting this surgery. I regret everything.

Is anyone can help me how to get chin??

so basically you are saying that the person after surgery should focus on maintaining proper posture and tongue position?

I have same problem as thumbnail but I don't have much money for his online treatment. I am 14 yrs old and I can change my facial structure.. I can't help myself.

what about receding mandible ?

can nerve damage or numbness be fixed?

I've had sliding genioplasty in the past, what does it mean for me in terms of mewing and orthotropics in general?

What about surgery and mewing

I had braces as a kid didn't help my severe overbite I still can't close my mouth properly

My tongue has sores from forcing my tongue to the roof of my mouth all week. Hurts a lot. Anyone else?

Can one go through orthotropic therapy after jaw surgery?

I am going to consult with a few more orthodontists. A week ago, I went to one, and she told me that, at my age (21 years old) and having done a previous treatment of braces, it may be better to go through surgery to expand maxilla and the mandible, instead of getting a device like a kind of similar to a DNA appliance one. What should I do???, honest and serious answers please, I also wait for your reply Mike, thanks btw

mewing worked move my maxillar forward after 3 years. It works. It would have worked much quicker if I was doing it correctly the whole time.

Dr... What would you recommend for a receding chin?

I have a tiny maxilla, crossbite and my jaw is dislocated. 8 years of braces, twice, in teens and twenties. Ear fullness and light sensitive eyes. Don't know what to do.

I have severe obstructive sleep apnea and was told this could be beneficial. I'm too frightened though.

Just put your tongue on the position it is when you swallow, otherwise if you try to press your tongue on the roof of your mouth intentionally you'll get tired fast

Mike I’m doing everything you say, like mewing..nose breathing..tongue on roof of palate..from last three months. Mike I’m 19 , there’s a tooth growing at the back of my mouth. Is this effect of doing what you say? Should I worry about it ?

PSA: Listen to this guy! Thank you so much for making these videos. So about 3 years ago I went to my GP and requested jaw surgery because I was extremely uncomfortable with my side profile. I am now preparing for surgery but it was only about 2 months ago I discovered that putting my tongue in the correct position of my mouth massively has improved my posture and looks so much better. It he also changed the way I breath for the better. Now the only thing I worry about is when I get surgery. Will I maintain the good posture I have achieved by continuing with these habits? Please reply soon as possible Thanks (I watched the video about forward head posture and its relationship to the tongue position in the mouth - in case you were wondering)

can an adult chance facial structure by starting nose breathing?

@orthotropics is there a way I can contact you to talk about my daughter's treatment?

Guys my problem is that my upper palate is expanded but my lower palate is extremely small...like my upper teeth have widened since I’ve gotten my tounge up on the roof of my mouth but my lower teeth and palate are really really close together and my Lower jaw is like weak too is there any suggestions guys that can help? It would be much appreciated

There's nothing that can be done in my case BUT surgery.

Why are all the leafy fans here all of a sudden

interesting, altough what i dont get is how you can have surgery done for a different purpose than orthotropics, like, both of them are for either health or asthetics, general improvements, i dont think annyone has jaw surgery done for a reason thats not health or asthetics

Can wisdom teeth removal change my face?

Could I still mew after double jaw surgery? Will mewing not effect. My jaw anymore?

Don't know what the hell are you saying, didn't understand even a single word.😪 I think you are here just to show your perfect jaw line only.

Is there anyway I can speak with you personally?

No way you can move your maxillabone forward with tongueposture when fullgrown. Fixed bone? Perhaps 1 or 2 mm over many years, but dont expect miracles. Unfortunately jawsurgery is often the only solution in fullgrown adults, with the risks, complications and relapses that come with it.

I have a severe overbite so I’m pretty sure I need jaw surgery

When will I see changes in my maxilla if I’m 15 and if I had a bad tongue posture for my entire life

Oh c'mon i have been mewing for 4 months and watching mewing videos and fixing my mistakes. However my face hasn't changed at all and i am 15 year old. What should i do?

I had braces for 4 and a half years and i still havw a bad overbite, i want to start mewing, i hope it can help

Dr Mike can I get mandibular advancement for weak chin. I have permanent retainers as well and have started mewing

I tried mewing since i was 15 now im 20 and i still cant keep my tongue of the roof of my mouth. I know i need the surgery especially because i cant breath with correct tongue posture and my tongue feels too big for my mouth. Additionally people keep calling me ugly.

Anyone here improve their overbite (deep bite) through mewing? Ditched my retainers and have been maintaining perfect tongue posture for the past couple of months, not too much change yet.

What do you say about lower jaw expansion? Kindly answer.

Great,, I just got double jaw surgery 4 days ago.

I have the option of doing surgery to put the lower jaw back in place and take it back to where it was and then start pushing the teeth forward I had lower jaw surgery my my surgeon told me he will do it for free I dont know what to do? I look bad now

Does this help to find against wisdom teeth problems?

so after getting the surgery, should i be mewing or not?

Doctor Mike Im 17, almost 18 but I'm still being like a kid even though I hit the puberty I'm not full developed, will this work out for me?

I dont see changes i start mewing at the age from 17 now im 20 im going to get braces and do the surgery

When I mew I feel a pain in my tmj... so I can't do it all the time. I have TMD and I don't want to do the procedure to help the tmj because I would grow more vertical dimension and I already have a big distance between my nose and mouth :/ . What can I do?

For class II Division I, should I use ALF appliance with braces at the same time on both upper and lower arch?

Sir my face require a jaw surgery what I do Please help me I fell uncomfortable

sir please reply me if the mandible bone is come out and looks face so wide what to do for get a slim v shape face

fuck i have to get jaw surgery iam scared

Would you recommend a maxillary skeletal expansion device?