Hi Gav, great video thanks, I have been using the 5 and 6 b without a problem so I thought I would get a 6. The first lock I tried it in was a new original Yale cylinder that uses the new key pattern Y42A I believe. Pin chamber 2 was blocked as shown, is it specific to that key style, ?
The new yales have this shelf blocking yes, not all but a lot do. Not much can be done unless you can remove the tool with keeping tension and pick that pin by hand.
wow Guv what a pleasant surprise, I was gone for a little over 5 months and as soon as I get back I see u showing off ur new toys here. Lishi Yale, I thought this would never happen. So I guess those wicked 1star euro Yales are not a nightmare anymore?
@@GxAxV Nice 1, those 1star Yales had been my sworn enemies since I bought those bloody things. I was wondering if u could use a six-pin Lishi b on a 5 pin rim cylinder?
@@Alx-SG some yes, others no. In some locks the tip of the pick hits the tail piece before the shoulder is fully inserted. If you do find a lock where the 6 pin tool fits all the way in then it will pick just fine and the lines match up perfectly still.
Unfortunately there is no quick route in locksmithing and not really any cheap way either. If you where to start I would suggest forgetting about lock picking as that’s a very small part of locksmithing and not that part that’s going to make you money. Get tooled up for lock fitting and door mechanism repair.
Hi gav, amazing content as always. I’m in the uk and looking at buying a Lishi or 2, which would you recommend for padlocks? These are mostly what my practice locks are.
Well the it would depend what padlocks you are picking of course but I personally like the AM5 for federal padlocks as they can be tricky and it makes life easier but still fun. I also use the M1 master lishi for making keys to padlocks I don’t have keys for.
@@kieronrollins Some Lishi Picks will do multiple vehicles. Lots of Ford and their subsidiary brands use the same lock types. The same with GM. You’ll just have to look through the model lists for each Lishi. The picks also change with the year models as well.
I still don't quite understand why the ledge on pin two is a issue. I believe what you said, but aren't ALL the holes drilled to the same depth? What am I missing?
No, so that particular chamber is not drilled through like the rest and this prevents that really short pin from falling too far into the keyway which would cause problems with keys. You may find this ledge in about 2/10 Yale locks.
@@GxAxV Why wouldn't YALE or that particular lock manufacturer randomly drill any hole shallower like that on chamber two, especially if it was intended to defeat these type of picking toold?
@@GxAxV Interesting. So, if the lock manufacturer wanted to use a shorter pin elsewhere, one would expect a multitude of uniquely drilled cylinders, which pretty much makes these locks undesirable for re-keying. I think if you said that these are custom drilled cylinders to accommodate only shallow pins that could be found anywhere on a random lock, it would have been more clear to me. But the manufacturer did inadvertently helped defeat the newest pick as you stated. I would think that lock containing shallow pins could be seen by scoping the keyway inadvance. Thanks for your earlier responses.
@@laurenarndt464 the pick will instantly tell you if the lock has one of these chambers. I have only ever seen one chamber in each lock like this and they are in some pretty old Yale locks too so it’s been a thing for many many years 🤷🏻♂️ it’s odd for sure.
So there is no such thing as a 6 pin SC1 I don’t think but I understand what you are asking. SC4 is the same as 5 pin SC1. SC4 lishi can be used to open both SC1 5 pin and 6 pin but I recommend buying the small plastic spacer to step the tool out.
@@GxAxV I get what you’re saying but you got some info wrong😭 I have the SC1 Lishi tool that opens 5 pin SC1 locks that are very common here in the USA. Half the home owners have it on their front door. There was a SC1 6 pin lishi that I could have bought but I figured because 5 pin is so common and because when you pull the lishi out to make up for the missing space it would put tension on the tool and possibly break it because the tension is supposed to be taken care of in the front of the lock where the 0 cut is left on the key for 1-2 cuts. Thank you for your input though! As long as it doesn’t do what I described , I will get a 6 pin SC1 lishi.
@@davidulvestad2944 ah I get you mate sorry about that. I must admit we don’t deal with schlage here really so I have been mistaken it seems on the SC1 and 4. I see that deviant O sells the little red spacer for the 6 pin to make it a 5 and he will usually tell you if something is shit. Hopefully you figure it out ✌🏻
