yes, someone who is dedicated on getting in will get in. Locks like this deter opportunity crimes. "oh, the house is empty, lets get in grab something and get out." Someone who really wants to get it could take bigger tools and just not care about noise. Talking about a flex or something.
With it you could gain stuff of value just sneak around picking locks and boom you win a prize walk away with other apple stuff of value I mean hey you earned it right and they earn the knowledge of buying q better lock lmfao no I wouldn't do that but you could start a lock picking business
@Blessed I *don’t* know how to do it, I like watching these things because they interest me. I already watched his video about *how* to pick locks so I already get the general idea though. Also, I’m sure there’s hundreds of videos about the tool he’s using, and even I could get and idea about what it’s doing even though I’m SUPER new to this channel. We’re here to be entertained, not to do illegal things, the worst we’d do with this info is find a way to break into our own house cause we forgot out keys, best we could do is we get kidnapped and manage to lockpick our way out. There are reasons that aren’t illegal that we might need these skills for.
@Blessed you obviously didn't watch enough of his videos to learn the how and why, he goes into great detail on how picking a physical lock works, he even explains how more innovative lock designs work when they come available to the public, he did a video on RFID locks and got alot more technical than he even needed to
@@miigon9117 LPL has a video of the best locks in his collection and there are a couple of them that he cannot pick, but they were not padlocks though.
Should be like this (I think) Me: Wow that's a big lock LPL: * shows bigger lock * LPL again: * even bigger lock * Also LPL again: * even more bigger lock *
Also when he flipped it over for the second pick. Reversing the keyway directions is a nice idea by the manufacturer because you're going to have to pick at least one in a hand position you haven't practiced. I wonder why they didn't use a janky keyway shape like the ones LPL said he had trouble with.
he wanted a more PICK RESISTANT lock not a stronger lock because of course it is strong most lock manufacturers dont take pick resistant in to consideration when designing locks ESPECIALLY MasterLock which is why they are shat on all the time not due due to their quality of the product but due to the quality of the locking mechanism inside
Unpickable isn't really possible, the goal should be to make it take so long that someone notices what's going on. I think Squire has hit that mark with this lock. This would take twice as long in the field (because you'd have to pick with the lock upside down, from underneath it). I'm quite sure someone would notice after 10 minutes
The guys at squire are like "let's see how big we can keep making them and keep sending them to lockpicklawyer" lol, eventually you'll need a warehouse and climbing gear
Me: I can totally do that, he's such a great 'explainer!!' Also me: nothing on 1, 2 is springy, 3 is a unicorn, can't find 4, 5 is whiskey tango foxtrot. I don't think I got this.
You know, if Squire simply made the lock cylinders spring-loaded so that they automatically relocked themselves when you remove the key, it would completely defeat his picking approach as the first cylinder would relock the moment he removes the tension on it.
I was thinking the same thing. It still doesn’t keep someone from picking it entirely, but it would up the difficulty even further. I actually assumed that’s why it had two cores at first, until I saw him release the first one without a hitch.
I'm not very knowledgeable about lock construction or picking them, but I was thinking that very thing... As soon as he releases the tension on the first one to start on the second one, all those pins were going to fall back into place and he'd have to go right back to the beginning. -OR- It also ran through my mind that he had just picked the wrong one, and even after opening the second one, the first one would relock itself because he did them in the wrong order. Then there was also that possibility that because he had opened them in the wrong order, that even though the second one was open, it still wouldn't unlock because he had to START with both locks locked at the same time.
No it goes like this Best padlock in the world: life is good Lockpicklawyer:lets get some tension in there Best lock in the world: oh shit I'm gonna be the worst lock in history
So this week I had the first acid test of my lock picking skills in the field. A fellow ex-co-worker gave me his approval to remove his padlock from his locker in our breakroom. Just a basic Master No. 3, but when the pressure is on with people coming by asking what you're doing, not being able to hold the lock in the most comfortable position, not being able to sit yourself in the most comfortable position... well, long story short it took me almost 25 minutes to get that thing open. Tried a couple rake attacks w/o success, and three different pick attacks. Four pins I think. I could get the first one easy, but by the time I got to the third it would always get messy and start binding and the first one or two would fall out of place. But when I finally pushed that last pin into place and the cylinder rotated I felt so proud!
it take LPL about less than a minute to pick a Master No.3 (but lets just round it off to a minute for easy calculation), so according to your real-time comparison. This squire lock took 3mins, so realistically it will take an attacker 75mins or 1hr 15mins minimum. Sounds like a decent lock. cheers.
That's awesome. I'd really like to see a video of LPL actually having to pick a lock in the field unexpectedly (or of someone recognizing LPL and asking him to pick a lock for them). However, I know it would be quite difficult to actually get footage of such a thing, as LPL probably doesn't have a camera with him at all times.
him: "you would probably need a very experienced picker to open these reliably" 2 seconds later : "i would like to see a higher securtiy option..." mans just can't get enough of locks bro
Squire and Bowley lock companies need to collaborate, most pick resistance core LPL has seen with an indestructible body would make undoubtedly the best lock EVER.
that's already the case - the illusion of security provided by decent quality locks makes for situations where people don't consider things like hinges, the material of the door/box/whatever, or alternate accesses (eg a window). locks deter the opportunist. good locks increase risk for the determined (more time = higher change of being caught). but security is only as good as its weakest point. full on removing a door would be a power play, if a bad idea (noise, effort etc.)
Local gunship and several garages toolboxes were robbed back in the 80s with method of a pickup backing through block wall or garage doors. That method was almost as quick as the LPL! :-)
"SON OF A BITCH!!!" *Wife comes running, sees door wide open* Wife: [GASP] "OH NO! Did they take our stuff???" Husband: "No! They took the padlock!! Assholes!!"
That actually happened to me, Had a high security Ingersoll padlock attached to what i thought was a good chain that was keeping my kids bikes secure. The thiefs just came along cut through my chain took the bikes and the padlock...Ironically the padlock cost more than the kids bike !! The joys of living in Salford Manchester England :)
You know what would make this lock more interesting? With the keyways so close together, if the dual keys had a gear around their shafts that nested into each other and the keyways had to be counter rotated at the same time to open. It'd mean you would need both keys together to open the lock, but a picker would have to tension both keyways and set all 12 pins to open it.
This would be more secure if both cores were linked in a way that they had to be turned simultaneously to work. In that case, it would require an actual physical collaboration by Lock Picking Lawyer and Bosnian Bill to open it. Very secure indeed 😀
@Adthin which would cause the keys to get stuck constantly. People keep bringing up this spring-loaded thing as if it's an end all be all of lock security, but all it does is make it so the thief needs to use a rubber band and have an extra set of tools. The annoyance of the key could stuck outweighs the few benefits
Azka '02 My buddy who is actively serving in baghdad says they have locks just like this on some of their vehicles and storage containers. I guess that’s their main buyer and user
I have an Abus bike lock. chrome-molibden alloy (more than 2kg in weight). When I lock my bike I always think that a thief will better cut the pole instead of the lock.
@@salvadorvizcarra769 what is exactly nonsense about his comment. You come off as pretentious and rude. Any one with bulldozer has unrestricted access as well but that's not what he was referring to.
Squire locks started around 1740 in the small town of Willenhall in the West Midlands UK still a family run business. The town itself was the lock capital of the world with hundreds of lock smiths / makers they even have a museum of locks . The Town has lots of history from Saxon times , it has a nickname Humpshire due to the lock maker working over a bench giving them that deformed hump. Well you can find all of this with some simple searches enjoy.
Two lessons I learnt: - The combination itself determines how hard it is to pick a lock (which means that there are way fewer combinations than advertised) - Tighter tolerances in a lock are more effective than fancy pins
Machinist tip for metal. If you want real drill protection they need to be made out of a material that work hardens as it's cut. Go with hastelloy c276, inconel 718 or nitronic 60. Even cobalt drills won't work. Has to be carbide. Then make those drill pins loose fit so they can move around as it's drilled. It'll chew up what they're using and make it way harder to get through. That being said, no lock can withstand a torch. Can't be stuck or locked if it's liquid.
@@RIPToot for regular people like you and me we see this lock and we see him pick it in a couple of minutes and he's in perfect conditions now imagine you're someone who's trying to sneak around in the dark and you have external noises from wherever you are affecting your senses you are cautious and you have to do this fast chances are whatever you're trying to break into has thought about that and there are multiple of these locks on whatever you're trying to steal
"I'm going to put a pinning tray underneath it because I think it will damage my desk ... Okay, we're going to get some tension in here..." and the lock just pops open magically. lol
I love that LPL is being used as a threshold test for padlocks. A company can send a prototype and see if it's pickable or not, and see what they could do to make LPL's job harder.
Locksmiths at fort knox: "This lock is the most secure lock than any other! 100x more secure than the most secure lock on the market!" guards at fort knox: "I'll give LPL about 3 minutes and he'll have it open."
@@duddude321 That's Not A Defense System; A More Efficient System Would Be A Remotely Operated Tesla Coil That Pulses Thousands Of Volts Into The Lock As Soon As The Hook Is Inserted.
@@AssistantCoreAQI That's also illegal. I remember the shotgun booby trap. Even if you aren't criminally prosecuted you can still be sued. Successfully sued at that.
This somehow remids me of the indestructible door. The breach team literally destroyed the wall around the door. I feel it'd be eaasier to cut whatever the lock is attached to than the lock itself!
@@Unnaymed because lockpicking is an acquired skill that requires constant oractice and specialized tools. Only the simplest locks can be bypassed with improvised tools.
@@Jgreen349 i agree, but if it win in less than one or two minuts, many stealer in the world can do this. Even if they take 5 or 10 minuts or more, so it's not secure at all :/ I'm starting picklock only for saying that's very easy and a HUGE security hole.
I think it’s a brilliant design. Seems to me that even more protection from picking could be once the first tumbler would automatically reset if the key isn’t inside to hold it in place. That way you couldn’t just pick one at a time. That thing is a behemoth though. I think I’d feel pretty secure with whatever I locked up with it.
@@FormerGovernmentHuman But the problem of this kind of locks, hard to lockpick and even harder to brute force is thieves will seach others weakpoint on the crate/door, but if this lock is the weakest point.... Well you're safe
@@vayalond7203 look if they need to start destroying things when they trying to get my stuff that just means the lock works. Cause they've abandoned stealth completely and are fully in on just bruting it
@@vayalond7203 my cousin was a breacher and learned that with enough determination, nothing will stay locked forever. The thing is the amount of effort required on the intruder. Locks are for honest people and to buy you time
To put this in perspective, an M-1 carbine weighs a little under 6 lbs. My AR-15, with all the the Gucci crap on it (forend rail, light, dual band aiming laser, optic, magnifier spare bolt and firing pin in the grip, loaded magazine, and a storage compartment full of spare batteries), clocks in at around 9.75 lbs. This lock is a big boy.
"This is the lock picking lawyer and today i'll be showing how easy it is to get into Fort Knox, alright so all we need it a paper clip" *2 minutes later* "alright guys thats all i have for today..."
You would have to cut it twice. Don’t forget that. Limited space makes it a lot harder also. Remember, cutting while it’s not on anything doesn’t count. You’d be better off cutting what the lock is attached to rather than the lock itself in most situations.
@@TheMegaOne1000 this is more like a front, and if there's something important that needs this lock, then lock isn't the only thing protecting it from the inside. I don't believe robbers are the issue but terrorists.
They need to make it where you have to turn both simultaneously. Wonder if that would make a harder challenge. Guess it's back to the drawing boards for Squire lol.
He has picked locks that require both to be turned simultaneously. The secret is to pick one and turn it very slightly to hold the pins in position, then pick the second one and then rotate both fully.
@@kokomo9764 yeah, I meant like one that you cannot turn one of them at all at all and have to spin them from beginning to end at exactly the same time like in movies when they fire off some nukes they have to turn the 2 keys on the count of 3 at the same time, though they make those far enough apart where one person can't do it lol. That wouldn't work on a lock. Or is that what you mean?
You see, the joke is funny because person one wants to pick a lock, the second person does not want person one to pick all his locks, so person one chooses the largest lock possible to lockpick. Funniest shit I've ever read
Ye, but its usually very dependent on the Situation you need the lock for, while for home usage its usually sufficient to just have any lock to either deter thieves or force them to use louder ways of entry, this giant lock would probably in highly secured, guarded areas where one vouldnt realistically stand around for minutes under pressurr working on picking the lock
@@custardavenger My dad told me a story about my uncle spending a whole weekend installing a very fancy and expensive car alarm/immobiliser system only for thieves to break into his car days later and steal the entire security system.
@drew13600 that was in the late 90's, they weren't all that great back then. There were a number of tools you could use to bypass a lot of the car security systems ranging from a video recorder remote control to a potato. I used to just briefly disconnect the negative lead from the battery to bypass my immobiliser the insurance company insisted I had installed for £400 haha
@Jerry C I used to be your way, but I have four footed greeting parties called trained guard dogs. If the dogs don't finish'em I've got a good leg breaker called a Louisville Slugger and a box of cayenne pepper to pour in their eyes; but the dogs are sergeants under my command on my property.
@Thonking Brah See my four four foot friends, they're sneaky; hurt one, someone better call the undertaker. Then when I get home I look at the dogs and say: "Now that's a stinky mess . Don't eat those guts, leave something for the coroner".
It took him 3 minutes. There is no such thing as an unpickable lock, it's the ones that slow down the lock picker as much as possible they steer clear of.
And always remember that he is picking it in an ideal environment. Good light, able to turn and move the lock completely freely, no distractions, well maintained tools, no time limit.
If I've learned anything from watching this channel it's that the oldest and most persistent weakness in locks is our continued use of traditional keys.
Ethan Lewis trust. If he has a channel this large on RU-vid the government knows who he is. Especially a channel this big. Remember FPSRussia? The ATF and FBI was all over his ass.
Is it possible to make a lock that has to be turned left first and then right, resetting the pins after the first left turn. Would that force the picker to have the pick the lock twice theoretically buying more time to get them caught or just frustrate them? Basically I’m asking is there any way to create a lock that would have to be tensioned twice in different directions as a single core/custody lock
@@pwnomega4562 I got this commissioned as a custom piece to use for my online presence. Emphasis on CUSTOM. It's a dark figure with the color blue. I did not reference ninja at any point in my commission. And even if it was based off Ninja's profile picture? I fucking hate Fortnite. Who cares?
There's that guy who's able to unlock actual bank vault door, although it took him like, 20 minutes or something Edit: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-qw_4HQMS-pk.html
Area 51 guards: "we've upgraded our security with the newest, highest grade locks!" LPL: "let's see what core they've installed, some countersinking or false sets would've made this a harder pick."
It could be made much stronger with plug springs so you must tension both sides at the same time and more security pins, possibly side pins also and some mechanism to jam it in the event of a "successful" pick, like what LPL does to his door locks.
Make it a nine-pin core with a six-pin key and three fake pins that, when successfully picked, cause the rotation of the core to fire poison needles out around the keyway.
@@Sableagle on the note of fake pins, I wonder if anyones tried putting a zero set pin thats beveled and serrated so when its initially "set" you keep trying to work it up past the serrations to the true set, which you will never find Edit: to clarify, I mean beveled on the join between the driver and key pins, so it doesnt feel set, but only gently beveled so when pushed it feels like its binding.
At the end of the day, standard lock mechanisms can only do so much. They can only really increase the time it takes someone to open it, not prevent it entirely.
Mate who needs power tools to break down into something. Just call you and you can do it quietly lol. I used to work at a factory that makes locks as a security guard. It was always interesting watching them get put together and seeing someone like yourself in minutes break into the best locks can offer. Awesome work
I have one of the SS100CS padlocks. Took a picture of the Master #3 padlock fitting entirely inside the shackle of the SS100CS (while the shackle is removed from the lock body of the moster lock).
That is quite good time..especially considering that LPL is a master at his craft. I’d think some less experienced lock pickers would take a minute or two longer. By the way, strength in the context of locks means how hard it is to brute force your way through it, either by metal cutters or guns. Considering he said that it took 120 rounds for a smaller version to break, O’d say that’s pretty tough.
picked in 3minutes under no stress in an enviroment where he can control the angle and direction of the picking. Now imagine its actually secured, because of its beef its secured in a way that would limit mobility and probably has gaurds checking up on it every so often
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