J. K Rowling describes Dudley based on Harry’s point of view not hers. If somebody has been bullying u for ur entire life u would describe them in the worst way possible
Exaxtly. Harry had grown up being told by everyone one around him that he was the most imperfect child ever and Dudley was a perfect little ray of sunshine. He'd have grasped onto anything bad about Dudley and exaggerated it.
the reason why J.K Rowling was so called 'fat shaming' Dudley was because the entire Harry Potter series is based on Harry's interpretation of his life (it showcases his point of view) therefore, since Dudley was horrible and also mistreating towards Harry, Harry would make fun of him and think to himself that Dudley was 'pig-like'. If the books weren't based on Harry's interpretations then J.K Rowling might have stated what mrs Dursley felt like having her sister (whom she was always in the shadow of) 's son on her doorstep and having to take care of him.
People who don't read the book should keep their mouths shut when it comes to these topics, because they don't know shit. Looper is making a great example here. It's not their fault, because the movies are kinda shitty thinking about how much important stuff they left out, but still... It's common knowledge that movies NEVER contain everything from the books, so they could have researched better.
No shit, Sherlock. Newsflash: That doesn't mean they don't need to get their facts straight before talking about something they clearly don't have a clue about.
Whilst I can't fact-check every difference between book and film, I can firmly state an adaption is an adaption. If you can't remember what happened in film and book or be able to separate them, it's your viewpoint that's flawed. Not to say anything of the adaptations overall quality, just your lack of ability to distinguish them.
1) Umbridge knew that McGonagall is an Animagus because an Animagus has to be registered with their animal, distinct markings, etc. in the Ministry of Magic's databases, so therefore, McGonagall couldn't spy on Umbridge. 2) Barty Crouch is highly likely to be an Occulumens which would fit with the paranoid persona of Mad-eye Moody, so Snape couldn't use Llegimens against him. 3) Time turners actually have very dangerous impacts - something could go wrong if any of the characters saw themselves post-time turn. Too many people to make sure something bad doesn't happen.
Totally Not Phoenix Wright it's also in the books and on pottermore(unsure if in the film) but ALL time turners are destroyed by accident when they're at the Ministry in Order of the Phoenix.
Also, in book 4, letting Voldemort take Harry's blood to resurrect himself is part of the plan, that's how Harry SURVIVED. So yeah, even if Dumbledore and Snape did know they'll play along.
Didn't Harry technically use the luck potion to defeat Voldemort because he used it to get the memory from slughorn, which helped them in the long run, learning about horcruxes and all
He was always able to get the memory from Slughorn. It just took a bit of luck. He can't just use felix felicis and make everything go the way he wants it, because it does not work that way. It also takes a lot of time to make felix felicis and the potion is very complicated and dangerous is if made wrong.
Well he used only a drop or two of the felix and the rest gave to Ginny and the rest of DA after he went with Dumbledore to the cave. Later Ginny told him that it probably saved them since all the spells of the Deatheaters somehow seemed to miss them. So without it they wouldn't be so lucky.
The potion still added a plot hole as soon as it was introduced. Snape was pretending to work for Voldemort, and Voldemort knew he was a potions master. He would've ordered Snape to brew it 24/7 for his entire army of Death Eaters before they invaded Hogwarts. The rest of Hogwarts clearly had no idea what Snape was up to, so it would've been easy to get away with. It's also not something Snape could've "faked", like the Veritiserum with Umbridge.
People need to get off Rawling's case about the fat shaming of Dudley. The book is written from the POV of an 11 year old and it uses words and phrases that would suit an 11 year old's mind. Kids aren't nice. Plain and simple. So it's not hard to image one extremely bullied little kid like Harry referring to his fat cousin by all kinds of nasty nicknames.
Not only this but it's coming from a kid that is forced to live in a closet under the stairs and wait for it PRACTICALLY STARVED. Why wouldn't he harbor a bit of resentment?
exactly. i don't see why that assessment of "fat shaming" is even remotely relevant lol. i'm sure most 11 year old kids would use those terms to describe their large cousin, even if they *weren't* constantly bullied by them. that's just how kids are..
the problem is, that it makes kids think, that being fat deserves harrassment. these kinda associations are the reason, why alot of big/fat/whatever kids have a hard time in class and maybe even hate themself.
Ladder Lappen well.. Eat crap you eventually get fat. That's just a fact. You do nothing you get nothing more than a increase in your waistline. I'll give the kids a pass.. For now. But honestly, people need to eat less and do more. For all of you skinny people who eat whatever because of your metabolism. Enjoy it. It won't last.
Minhaj Nizam Ignotus Peverell was the brother who got the Invisibility Cloak. He gave it to his son, who gave it to HIS kid, until it was passed down to James, and finally Harry (although not sure if the Potters were direct or indirect descendants).
If i remember correctly Ignotus Peverell had a granddaughter and she inherited the cloak as there was no male heir when she married she told her husband about the cloak who was a potter and she gave it to her eldest son
The main thing i noticed going back is the quality of acting, when you're younger you tend to just believe it all regardless of the quality but rewatching it now, even the earliest films when they are just babies the acting is really impressive, what a series
What??? Some of the acting in the early films - especially the first one - is quite possibly the worst acting in a major Hollywood film. Ever! The terrible thing about it is that it's the main star who is the worst actor. For example when Hagrid first meets Harry and explains who he is, Daniel Radcliffe's acting is positively horrendous as he says "No, you've made a mistake. I mean I can't be a wizard... I mean I'm Harry, just Harry." I STILL cringe when I see it and the whole first movie is almost unwatchable because of the atrocious acting of the 3 main characters. I think you've either got a blind spot because you love Harry Potter - as do I, which is why the woeful acting in the first couple of films is such a shame - or you really don't know much about acting. I don't mean to insult you so I'm sorry to say it... :-(
+Yurek Hunt ~ _"Some of the acting in the early films - especially the first one - is quite possibly the worst acting in a major Hollywood film"_ /facepalm... try saying that when you've seen more than 4 or 5 "major Hollywood films", and Michael Bay films don't count.
Good books aren't an excuse for bad movies. Movies should be able to stand completely in their own right. Any argument based off a book is irrelevant in an argument about the movie. That being said, I like the movies, I just think there are plot hles.
JK writes Dudley as a large boy to show the comparison between how well he is treated over Harry, like how Harry barely gets scraps but Dudley gets thirds of everything and nobody seems to mind. She wrote him fat to let the readers know that it's been like that all through his life, and how Harry is extremely underweight and under their care probably wouldn't get any larger.
CSGosu as an adult it makes me think about how some people take dieting to an extreme despite there being tons of information out there about the bare minimum the human body needs to be healthy.
+Paige Davis I agree that that was the purpose of him being fat, but I - and I think the writers of this video - didn't take issue with him being fat, but rather with it being the key characteristic that they rather harshly mention over and over throughout the books. I'm rereading the books with my niece right now and I was taken aback by all the fat jokes - I honestly don't remember there being that many, and found it to be excessive and mean spirited. Dudley is an awful child, there's a lot to criticize about him other than his weight, yet his weight is what is constantly brought up and very few times is it mentioned in conjunction with Harry being underweight, it is usually handled in a light hearted fashion and used as comic relief. To me, this is actually one of the only points this video brought up that was in any way valid.
+CSGosu I disagree here. Clearly Vernon and Petunia are horrible parents that are harming Dudley in the way they choose to feed him. However, I think they're doing it because they think it's what's best for Dudley and believe that in doing so they're making him healthy. You can see this outlook reinforced over and over throughout the books, for example when Marge comes to visit in book 4 and mentions how Dudley looks like a proper boy and will grow up to be a strong man like his father, as compared to Harry who she insults as being too thin. This is also illustrated by the fact that in book 5, when Dudley's school write home to inform them that he has reached a size where they no longer keep underwear that will fit him, Petunia immediately enforces a strict healthy diet on the whole household that she keeps sticking to despite Dudley's complaints. This shows results in the later books when he is described as becoming more brawney due to the diet and his boxing. I think the one good quality that the Dursley's had is that they genuinely loved Dudley, but they were horrible parents and instilled Dudley with those horrible ideals that he kept until he was old enough to realize how awful his upbringing was. I certainly wouldn't say that Dudley was rejected or intentionally abused by his family. Quite the contrary, actually.
Um exUSE mE? THE ONLY REASON HARRY WAS WITH HIS AUNT AND UNCLE IS BECAUSE IT WAS UNDER PROTECTION FROM VOLDEMORT HARRY WAS BEING WATCHED AND KEPT SAFE BY MCGONAGALL WHILE SHES A CAT
You did *not* just say that Moaning Myrtle is a poltergeist :O she's just a regular ol' ghost, the only Poltergeist in the story is Peeves! Which I still can't believe they didn't include in the movies!!!
That may well be in a general sense of the words. But in the Harry Potter universe specifically, poltergeists and ghosts are described to be very different both in nature and in origin, not just in behaviour. Ghosts are pretty much regular ghosts, being disembodies souls of deceased people that manifest themselves in a greyish, see-through non-corporeal form. They can talk and think and generally float some few inches above the ground but can't touch or move anything in a physical way, instead passing through solid objects and people. Peeves, as the only described example of a Poltergeist in the Harry Potter universe, is said to actually have a physical form, being corporeal and as such able to physically interact with objects and people, and as to his origin, it's not clear exactly where he came from but it's clear that he never actually was a living person. So to sum up: in Harry Potter, the difference between a ghost and poltergeist is very real and they are not to be confused in a video specifically talking about Harry Potter.
Well maybe if Dudley put down the éclairs and got some exercise he wouldn't be described as "the size of a young killer whale". Also, since the series is from Harry's point of view and how he dislikes the Dursleys', I always thought he was exaggerating when it came to Dudley's weight.
And when he took on to boxing people still referred to him as big and stupid. Same thing with Crabbe and Goyle. It's not about them being fat, it's about them being mean. Neville, Mrs. Weasley and Pomona Sprout are quite roundish in the books as well and no one calls them anything offensive - because, as rayner mooney pointed out, it's narrated from Harry's point of view and he likes them.
The ministry is not in charge of or in possession of all of the money, the goblins are which is why the light were so eager in making an allegiance with them. If the goblins sided with Voldemort, the wizarding economy would go to shit
This fat shaming this is complete rubbish, look at hagrid - the biggest dude in the books. She presents him with nothing but love and passion. People see what they want to see.
Ravlar RS yeah... but he's kind of a giant... not overweight... but I agree with you on the fact that this is bs... Dudley being fat was because his parents didn't care to set boundaries... pointing it out pointed out everything else that was wrong with him as it is a clear symptom of a much larger problem... also... it was from Harry's point of view... he was 11-14 during those years
Lol okay so you're suggesting that Mineva McGonagall who told us in book two that all shape shifters had to register with the ministry, would use her registered shape shifting ability as a cat, against the lady who worked for the ministry? WHAT KIND OF FALSE LOGIC IS THAT?
Most of the things on this list can be explained by anyone who bothered to read the books. For example, why not use the Time Turner? Because Hermione explains to us that bad things happen when the past is changed monumentally, such as going back in time to kill Voldemort. The future you intend will hardly ever happen. This is also why Voldemort never used time travel to go back in time and kill Harry as a baby or even kill Dumbledore. Additionally, Dumbledore gave Harry the cloak not because he's irresponsible. It would've passed to Harry anyway since it was his right. C'mon Looper -_-
How much research did you do into the fat-shaming controversy? I remember it, and Dudley is actually the only "bad" fat character, because he overeats and uses his bulk to bully other people. His weight is because of his bad behavior. There are tons of other fat good characters in the series, like Molly Weasley, Professor Slughorn, Professor Sprout, Hagrid...and most of the Death Eaters are skinny!
Dudley's fatness was because he was very, very, spoilt and his father could see nothing wrong. The school had to tellThe Dursley's there was a problem. Dudley himself ended up into fitness, maybe attempting to be a better person, having witnessed Harry's power.
so ah... couple of things: "Fat shaming" - most of the story is told from Harry's point of view... so discription given to Dudley should come as a no surprise. "Luck potion" didn't make you immortal, just very lucky... and besides Harry's friends used what was left of it, when death eaters attacked Hogwarts in "the half blood Prince" and as they described it, it only helped them to STAY ALIVE not deafeat death eaters. Minerva and the cat thing... lol? Cloak of invisibility was Harry's to begin with and caused no danger on it's user like other two deathly hallows did.... Harry was never left alone... it was safer to keep him hidden in house of muggles and their nabour(squib lady) was watching over him. In allmost all of the Harry Potter books it is remarked how Ministery of Magic, is flawed and corrupt. I don't care to address the rest of the mistakes you made, cause it has been a long time since i read the books/watched the movies. I have never been a die hard Harry Potter fan, meaning i never reread the books or rewatched the movies, but i still remember that much.
Actualy Harry was left with his aunt and uncle cause there was a spell in place that would keep him protected and untraceable until he became of age as long as he returned once per year to a roof inhabited someone of his blood, it just so happens the only person that would meet this criteria was his aunt. In the books theres a point his uncle is about to kick Harry out when a howler is sent to Harrys hause and tell Petunia she had to "remember her oath" and she steps in and stops Harry from being kicked out.
LOL fat shaming? It's just a character. Some people can be so butt-hurt. The purpose of making the character "fat" is to signify that he's spoiled by his parents.
WHich obviously is a fuck up idea. Being fat is not correlated of spoiling, buch often it is a sign of social distress and emotional problems as a result. If you want to show a spoilt brat in a British society, there are enough of other traits.
ViolentFEAR Being fat is the sign of being rather spoilt, at least in this case it is. Jk Rowling wanted to show the readers that dudley was being spoilt, and being fat is basically the universal image for that
If you're fat due to your own greed and laziness why not be shamed for it. Also, it was merely being descriptive of his size. It's shaming him to point out he's huge?
If you're fat due to your own greed and laziness why not be shamed for it. Also, it was merely being descriptive of his size. It's shaming him to point out he's huge?
Not to mention that Dumbledore felt guilty about it. He borrowed the cloak from James and then James and Lily die. He gave it to Harry because he knew it needed to go back to it's rightful owner.
Suzanne Dupras no that’s all wronged harry potters farther jame had the cloak did anyone see Harry Potter and the deathly hallows if you’ve seen Harry Potter deathly hallows you will under stAnd the ghost and the three brothers James Harry Potter farther was one of the youngest brother who wished for the cloak you see James sent it ok
Actually Dumbledore's.. questionable actions are the only thing he got right in the video.. Even though he was fully aware that Harry's home was abusive, he allowed him to grow up there AND RETURN EACH SUMMER until Voldemort was on the rise. Many of the things he does unnecessarily put Harry and other students at risk and are very irresponsible. Sorry fam but he's not the greatest person (and the fact that nearly everyone in the show blindly follows him just further proves how problematic his character is)
@@anablaze5733 there was actually a good reason why he let harry stay with his aunt even though he knows that harry will suffer there. Harry's protection will continue until he was 17 if he stays with his aunt
If you read the books you find that in order to be protected from Voldemort, Harry had to have a place he considered "home" with blood relatives. It was part of the supernatural protection from his mother's sacrifice.
i beg to differ: "Kann ich auch deinen Uranus sehen?" in german anus still means anus, but ur- doesn't have a special meaning so the joke did not work in the translation
Ok, here are the reasons why your video (and the complaints in it) are pretty much debunked. Dumbledore NEVER put Harry in any position that he isn't perfectly capable of handling or where he is discreetly being protected. And even if he had done so, you have to remember that some day soon Harry is going to have to come face to face with Voldemort and fight for his very life - and it's not in any way guaranteed that Harry would have any kind of help at that point. Hermione's parents let her run through the damn wall because they had been in touch with Dumbledore more than once and knew how everything worked because he had met with them (like he did with all first year students from muggle families) and explained. The whole situation is no different than sending your child off to a boarding school. Back to Harry: He was never in real danger because he was watched his entire life by witches and wizards who had been affiliated with the Order of the Phoenix. There was even a witch (although she was a squib) living in the same little neighborhood as Harry and she was in constant contact with Dumbledore. And Harry HAD to live in that horrible and obviously abusive house because a form of unbreakable magic stated that so long as he lives under the roof of his mother's close blood relative then he was untouchable to Voldemort. You were also wrong in something that you said about the Ministry of Magic. They aren't in charge of the money at all. The goblin bank of Gringotts is in charge of all of the money in the wizarding world. And J.K. Rowling wasn't "fat shaming" anyone. She was making the point with Dudley Dursley that how horribly disgusting and pig-like (being selfish, gluttonous, greedy, and filthy) on the inside was beginning to show on the outside. Did you pass your reading comprehension classes or not? I'm guessing not lol. Oh.... And Snape had absolutely no reason to use legilimency on a trusted member of the Order of the Phoenix (as well as an ex-Auror) like Mad-Eye Moody. Legilimency is not something that happens automatically all of the time either (like being a psychic or reading minds does) - the practitioner must put forth effort and actively use the power. Plus, there would be absolutely no way to hide the fact that he was using the power on Mad-Eye intentionally - therefore giving Crouch a heads up and putting the entire Order of the Phoenix in jeopardy, not to mention blowing more than a decade of undercover work that Snape had been doing for the Order by spying on the Death Eaters. You have to think about the big picture. And there's no guarantee that it would even work anyway... Snape would be focusing on the Mad-Eye in front of him (who isn't actually Mad-Eye) and that simple fact might make Crouch immune to it, or it might backfire like it did that one time with Harry and end up letting Crouch see entirely too much. Your comment about "all these trivial moments" coming and going while there is a all out war going on is a little bit clueless in general. Even when horrible, all out, massive wars are going on (no matter how big they are or how close to home) day to day life and the everyday tasks that go with it keep happening. Where do you think the saying "Keep Calm & Carry On" came from???? From the United Kingdom during both of the world wars while they were getting bombed basically all day and all night. And the reason why Dumbledore gives Harry Potter the cloak of invisibility when he does is because the cloak actually BELONGS TO HARRY. It was James Potter's, and had been passed down through the family from father to son between the twelfth and fifteenth birthday for generations until it reached Harry. The only reason why Dumbledore had to give it to Harry instead of his father doing so is because Dumbledore had borrowed the cloak shortly before the tragedy in Godric's Hollow. Dumbledore wanted to study the cloak because he already possessed the Elder wand. Also your theory about why Peter Pettigrew (Scabbers) couldn't have stayed hidden for so many years when the Weasley twins had access to the Marauders Map doesn't hold up either :-/ Reason one: Scabbers was constantly disappearing for extended periods of time (probably off of Hogwarts school grounds - which is all that the map covers - and therefore invisible). #2 No normal teenage boys are going to just sit around staring at a map so that they can spy on their boring little brother while he's in class or alone in his all boys dormitory. #3 The reason why the twins used the map was to avoid detection and trouble while causing mischief and practical jokes. They would be much too busy looking for people in their immediate vicinity who could get them in deep trouble or ruin their joke or vandalism lol - they wouldn't have time or the inclination to try to look for their kid brother or any other person in any other part of the castle who wouldn't possibly have any kind of affect on them or their actions. So yeah.....
I quote from your comment: _"[...]and that simple fact might make Crouch immune to it, or it might backfire like it did that one time with Harry[...]"_ Actually, Harry used a protection spell (Protego) to counter Snape's legilimency.
Levo GAMES I'm well aware of what Harry did to counter Snape in that situation. It in no way changes the point that I was making about why Snape would have been stupid to do that to CROUCH - since Crouch knew him, and his capabilities, for years and years and was a much more experienced wizard than Harry. The whole thing would most likely have backfired, and it would have completely blown Snape's cover regardless. Did you pass your reading comprehension classes, or do you have the same issues as the person who made the video?
Well said. Just one thing tho, I think you misunderstood the video on the trivial moments. He was saying awesome things like time turners and liquid luck were used in very trivial ways compared to the bigger picture. Harry could have used liquid luck to find horcruxes and defeat Voldemort, time turners could have come in really handy in the war, etcetera... He kinda has a point too. Having 5 invisible time turned versions of yourself fighting along side you hyped up on liquid luck, that would be sick!!
Being lucky is relative term. If harry uses liquid luck against Voldemort he can only be safe until its effects wore out or safely escape from him. He CANNOT defeat Voldemort with mere luck. Please read the books. The movies are heavily tampered to get everything in two and half hour
I think, she also tryed to show that their unhealthy abundant love to Dudley at some point also turned into an abuse of some kind. They corrupted their son not only physically, but also mentally.
For those who keep whining, the books are from Third Person Limited POV and focuses 97.5% from Harry's limited point of view. So technically it *is* his POV since we follow specifically his reactions, thoughts, feelings, and beliefs more than anyone else and if he is not present we won't see it happen. 3rd Limited has similar constraints to 1st because you primarily see the story through the protagonist's eyes alone and have similar rules in place. Save for a deviation in chapters of PS, GoF, HBP, and DH(5 in total), we get everything from Harry's side alone. These books are about Harry's experiences, which is why we follow him nearly the whole time.
Seriously? Did anyone you know actually read the books? Where in the world did you get that The Ministry of Magic, 'distributes wealth?' That one you simply made up as it wasn't in the books or movies. The Ministry itself governs the magic world under the control of the Prime Minister of England that is bluntly stated in the books when they have to apprise him of the return of Voldemort. The only bit you got right, and even Rowling admitted that it's a plot hole, is the time turner. Please do some sort of research outside of heresay.
I'm sorry, but The Ministry of Magic isn't under the control of the Prime Minister of England or the British Government, they simply communicate when it is necessary. They are entirely different governments, governing entirely different populations. It's all explained in the books. I agree with you though, it seems "Looper" did little-to-no research before making this video. Frustrating to say the least.
Not really the time turner now if you've read the cursed child... it's all explained. Sorry but this video is totally irrellevant. If it were called "Things You Only Notice About Harry Potter MOVIES As An Adult" then we could talk... It was all wrong. I cracked at the Myrtle fact, really? Myrtle died IN the bathrooms so therefore, as a ghost, she stays there most of the time... She's literally stuck there with nothing to do, sure you'd be happy to be a lonely teenager for forever... Hermione's parents? They do care! They come to the train with her every single time and even talk with the Weasleys... Speaking of, if I had the map, I wouldn't use it to spy on my siblings, I'd use it for fun and sneaking out and all that. The cloak belonged to James, he only borrowed it to Dumbledore for some stupid reason nobody gets... Dumbledore had a shady side but wasn't abusive... The spells are from latin. Dumbledore did check on Harry and he made a deal with Petunia, Harry wasn't being hurt too bad to not handle it and the Dursley's home was the only safe place for him because of the fact that Petunia shares blood with Lily who gave up her life so Harry could live. With Petunia, Harry was always safe. Dementors are no longer used. House elves are being helped, some just don't want it. Dudley was as described, no way of arguing about that. I know it's taken you a lot of time but you should have either named it differently or read the books. And Hufflepuffs are no pot heads. Really? It's a school. They're Hufflepuffs because of their nature of accepting things as they are and just trying to live their happiest lies
+Wendy K. Wow, most comments are a novel on one thing he gets wrong, u managed to sun up everything he gets wrong in shorter passage. Also I have to thank you because this means I don't have to rant:)
This video should be named "Things Parents Think About Harry Potter Before Potterheads Explain That All of This is Shit." I have 3 words for you....Read. The. Books.
Fr in the book snape actually talked to barty crouch jr. In the forbidden forest prior to them finding his true identity, but snape knew. Snape seems to always know.
I HAVE read the books, and this video isn't too far off. Of course, kids didn't get all of this from the books. Hence the "adults" in the title of the video.
I feel like a lot of these issues are circumspect, at best. At the very least, the luck potions, legillimens, and animagus points are not relevant. McGonagall could not have used her cat form to spy on Umbridge, she was registered. Her animagus form was public knowledge. In order for legillimens to work, the user has to intend to use it. They had no reason to suspect Moody was Crouch and, if they had, he could have used occlumency to evade it, which Alastor "constant vigilance" Moody would have done, himself. And the luck potion was... Okay, maybe a little under developed, but Harry was 16... Did you make good choices at 16? Furthermore, a major point of this story was racism, dealing with it in a way children could understand, and probably went a long way toward creating a generation (or more) of equality driven citizens. The setup of the ministry was a huge part of that narrative, showing how corruption corrupts and emphasizing the necessity of checks and balances. Likewise, it showed a view of child abuse that is realistic and frequently overlooked. It wouldn't have made sense for Harry to hate his relatives if they weren't horrible and Dumbledore's use of him was another step in overcoming childhood abuse. The sex thing is absurd. I, personally, was astounded that nobody at Hogwarts smoked, because that seemed unlikely, but this story was written for children and, in some unfortunate cases, concessions must be made. There also were no mentioned reading or writing classes, no stated primary school. I imagine those details were not included because they were assumed to be the responsibility of someone else, outside of the story and were, therefore, irrelevant. Harry Potter depicted a believable society with believable characters and relatively believable events. These details don't change that. What they do is make readers think, wonder, consider and, with any luck, change.
Jack Thomas it was written for adolesdents and young adult aged "children", and it was stated that the characters smoked...and they regularly consumed alcohol, in pubs, under age, so again, no.
Declan Casey I don't recall any mention of underaged drinking or smoking, in pubs or elsewhere. I could be wrong, but that wasn't my point. My point was that it was one instance of a lack of believable situations in the books, and I qualifed it with the logic that they were written for children.
Kailob Moore yes, I believe I stated that the books were written for children as a reason for the lack of underaged drinking and smoking. However, butterbeer is alcoholic, but very mildly. If you'll recall, Winky the house elf was intoxicated, in one scene, and surrounded by butterbeer bottles. The laws regarding underaged drinking are different in England/Scotland and so butterbeer isn't the issue. My issue was entirely about smoking. Children and teenagers smoke, tobacco has been a part of human culture for too many generations for that fact to avoid Wizarding culture and, as a child, I saw my peers smoking as early as 14, so why wouldn't Harry? It's illogical and, I believe, irresponsible to completely glaze over that reality. You don't show children a world where no child breaks the rules, you show them one where some do and have your character rise above that, even casually. And, in Harry Potter, the only children who broke the rules were Harry, his friends, and Draco... That's a much better message, I suppose.
Jack Thomas uhm OOTP Dudleys gang is mentioned as standing on street corners smoking and throwing stones at passing cars And underage drinking was in HBP where oak matured mead was drunk as a toast at the Dursleys, as a normal available drink at Slughorns Xmas party and I belive firewhiskey was drunk as a toast to Mad eye in TDH
Actually they did check on Harry regularly. There is a lady Mrs. Arabella Figg wich is a squib. The Dursleys always left Harry with her when they went on hollydays.
they distorted a lot of information to make their point. Like "perverted ghost having a habbit of sneaking into boys at the bathtub" WTF? She litteraly never leaves the ONE GIRLS bathroom...
Read the books. They had a witch living next door to Harry to keep an eye on him. Edit: (If anyone else write "squib" I will kick you! Yes I know that. But since they where talking about the films and squib is hardly mentioned in them I made the choice to call her a witch. [becuse only book readers would get it I thought] And please read the previous comments before you put yours to them. Please! Thanks. But I love love the discussion about everything around that. Keep that up!) Love to all you "Happy Potter(fans)"
Ministry does not control Wizarding money, Gringotts does. Legilimency is not a "gift", it is a skill that is learnt. Parseltongue could be considered as a "gift". It is not Dumbledore's responsibility to routinely check on one orphan. He has no relation to Harry.
Pawn Riot no but legilimency for snape was not a gift but in fantastic beast its shown that Queenie is a born legilimen. but since snape was not he offcourse won't be prying into everyone's mind alk the time.
parseltongue isn't "considered" a gift. it IS a gift, yes Dumbledore understands parsletongue but he can't speak it only those who are a descendant of slytherin (and harry who got the gift from Voldemort when he tried to kill him) can speak it, although others can learn to understand it
Jake Owers Ron spoke Parsletongue to get into the Chamber of Secrets in the final book. Just sayin'. Most things in the HP universe can come more naturally to some than others as a "gift" that person has. Some people are really great healers, some people are really great at flying, some people have the natural incantation to speak to and understand snakes... That last one is very hard to do, but clearly, it can be done.
Yep, if they have seen this video they will expect sex in every corner and high hufflepuff students apart from a pedophile dumbledore (we should actually make a movie with this ideas i would watch it)
Dumbledore didn't just "throw Harry to the wolves," he knew exactly what he was doing and why he was doing it. He knew what Harry was capable of. One of my favorite lines of his was "Once again, I must ask too much of you, Harry." He feels badly that he has to ask so much of Harry, but he needs to in order to save the Wizarding world. For the first few years, when Harry is young and inexperienced, all the dangerous situations he gets into are self-inflicted. HARRY decided to go through the trap door and save the Sorcerer's Stone, HARRY decided to enter the Chamber of Secrets, and HARRY decided to go after Sirius Black. In the fifth book, Dumbledore starts helping Harry resist Voldemort, with Occlumency lessons with Snape. Then in the sixth book, he takes Harry to the cave, which is quite dangerous, BUT it was completely necessary to destroy the Horcrux, which would otherwise have prevented Voldemort from ever being killed. Dumbledore cuts his own arm to offer Voldemort his own blood, and Dumbledore drinks the agonizing potion. Additionally, it is false that no one checks up on Harry in the ten years of his living with the Dursleys - Professor McGonagall, in the form of a cat, watches him, Mrs. Figg watches him, and incidentally, Dumbledore knew exactly what kind of people the Dursleys were, and knew he had no other option.
I know this is a really late comment but WOW that's the best way anyone could have summed it up. Also, this is the longest comment I have ever read all the way through
Wish they'd put some spell or asked a house elf to drop by with food sometimes though, for all the times he was starved by the Dursleys. And I'm confused about how much he really needed that protection in later books, as the time he spent at the Dursleys was lowered for each book. In general he spends a school year at Hogwarts and comes home for the summer, but then halfway through summer break or so in the second book he's rescued by the youngest Weasley sons and in the third book he leaves all on his own in anger. I don't remember exactly in the other books but it sounds like the protection was more there for his early childhood and infant years, when he couldn't defend himself? It couldn't have been that crucial for him to absolutely stay with the Dursleys and their abuse for 1-2 months or less a year? Correct me if I'm forgetting something. And I agree with the rest of the stuff mentioned here haha
Mcgonnagall most likely didn`t spend really most of her time looking at harry,i`m pretty sure it is like,let me get the reports,that department is of mrs Figgs,she probaly just independently solved to check if they were true,since she spendt too much time near the dursleys,Mrs figgs had also to sleep,no mage could really even stay alive if they didn`t sleep,much less a squib,a house elf is too much dangerous,just think if dobby was like,in entire harry potter life,the ministry of magic would have to work a lot, you can`t also conjure or transfigure food,these things all happened in the middle of the night,just for you to see the genius of rowling he also always sneaked out to get some food
All completely wrong. UPVOTE If you believe this should be taken down for false information. It's not right to spread miss information about people and books out your own laziness to do some research into the actual topic in which your making a video about. Shame.
Dude, actually think about what you just wrote. Are you saying that you think a society so anal about maintaining 'pure' bloodlines WOULDNT also be batshit about explaining just who and who you couldnt have sex with? What sex was? Really? Reaaaalllly? lmao.
ViolentFEAR sure they did! Don't forget to wear a condom, kids! Aka pig intestine, cause let's face it. The wizarding world doesn't even know what latex is. In all seriousness though, the sex education would probably be expected to be given by the parents.
The Spegee Well, they're not the first to draw that conclusion. There's the Hogwarts university vid for example. Personally I like it a lot, even though I highly doubt Rowling would make it canon:p
Idk if he has or not. I think he was handed a script and just told to record it for his job. The writer of the script on the other hand??? Very poor research skills lol
Dang, there is definitely weird stuff about Harry Potter that you could have talked about, but instead almost every point of yours was either overanalyzation or could be easily rebutted. I'm disappointed. Dropping a dislike so maybe you learn to do some more research next time.
i think the internet may have been a mistake.. -when u give everyone the power to speak their opinions, then EVERYONE HAS to be right. that is the problem with the Internet.
comparing a series of poorly written books to the works of Shakespeare is like me comparing a microwavable TV dinner to a fancy meal at a Michelin star restaurant.
Because as a kid, i didn't care about the quality of my entertainment. I liked a tv show called "butt ugly martians" when i was really young, looking back on how poorly made it was makes me cringe.
This inconsistencies are just as true in the books--I only read the books and noticed almost every one of the points in reading them before seeing this video.
Some of them can be proven wrong by the books and some of them are less severe when you read the books. E.g. there was a person checking on Harry, called Mrs. Figg. Although that does not justify leaving him in an abusive household. Hermione's parents got a visit of a Hogwart's official before letting her daughter visit the school (everyone not knowing Hogwarts got this visit e.g. Tom Riddle). Dudle was a bad character that was fat due to him being spoiled and for example, eating Harry's portion of food whereas Harry was skinny for the same reasons. Of course Harry called him bad names. (The books are mostly written out of Harry's point of view). Voldemort was also good at Occlumancy but could not read Snape's mind. Barty Crouch was one of his most important followers, so there is a high chance Barty Crouch just was too skilled to have his mind read. And veritaserum is a much easier way. Although, everyone trusted Alastor Moody, so why should you read his mind? McGonagall was a registered animagus so Dolores, who most likely did her research, must have known that she was a cat and how she looked like (the whole school knew). The cloak of invisibility belonged to James Potter and was not a gift from Dumbledore but belonged Harry all along. And it was not Dumbledore who needed the Deathly Hollows but Harry. Some things in this video made sense. But most are a little shallow and not very well researched, unfortunately.
Wow you did a really great job at pissing off like every single Harry Potter fan, ever. It’s ok though, we don’t hate you for it - Squibs need love too!
Is he talking about some books for children? Nah, exactly. The movies are the movies and should not need other media to fill plot holes. Take game of thrones for example, its based on a huge book series but the tv series are still standing on its own legs and you dont need to read thousands of pages from the books to completely understand it. Your argument is ridiculous.
Comparing the Harry Potter Books and Movies to Game of Thrown's is a long shot considering Game of Thrown's strayed away from the books. Also the video isn't "things you only noticed if you didn't read the books..." Also the books aren't just for children, they are for a wide range of ages.
@@cristofererlandsson4444 Books about torture, death and war... Great books for children. The Harry Potter books are the real universe. Of course you can only watch the movie but that would just be entertainment and you would'nt have entry to the real universe. And comparing Harry Potter and Game of Thrones isn't possible. It's just way too different.
I usually enjoy Looper videos, but this one seems to go out of the way to nit-pick some pretty minor things and is completely off base on a couple of them. Dudley's description comes from Harry's point of view, obviously not how J.K. Rowling views fat people.
Well it's important to separate the author from the implications about them in whatever they may be writing. That is of course sometimes difficult to do, but it stands to reason what is written or said in the book may not correlate to the author in question.
For example an author writing about a serial killer killing people.. and all that doesn't mean they want to do it... Dexter anyone? xD But I did like the Marauders Map.. that is pretty much the only correct thing on here.
Also I think the pig thing kind of foreshadows how he later in the first book gets a pigs tail from Hagrid for eating Harrys birthday cake. And I also think the reason for the books to highlight the fat part is to show the difference between how Harry is so skinny because they are not taking care of him and he does not really get enough nutrition, and Dudley is fat because his parents does not say no to him, he gets everything he wants, and which kid wouldn't get fat if they have the most unhealthy lifestyle in history.
And hey...Nymphadora wasn't a teen mom...she was born in 1973 and she had Edward Teddy Lupin with Remus Lupin in the year of 1998 exactly a year before the war.. She was 23 years old... Please don't post rubbish about Without doing a research...
mhm izme "No matter what you say about it" meaning he loves HP no matter what the creators of the video said about it. He implies that the creators trying to to put HP in a bad light, which they don't. it's for fun. I don't hate the guy who wrote the comment. I just disagree with him.
Why would Snape need to pry into Crouch's (presumed to be Moody) mind? Time turner - Come on even Hermione mentions "bad things happen to Wizards who mess with time" plus it's the cliche of just about every time travel story, mess with time bad things happen. The Cursed Child fleshes things out more in that regard.
Occlumency: Crouch was presumably skilled in Occlumency, having successfully hidden his true identity as a Death Eater from Albus Dumbledore for nine months.. so yah good luck with snape getting into his mind
Thank you. Very few people will mention CC without ranting about how bad it is or the fact that it is a script instead of a book. Also, Back to the Future Pt 2 also shows why you don't meddle with time. Marty bought the almanac, and look where we are now. we have fake hover boards. EDIT; Not to mention the Cubs won the World Series one year later than they were supposed too.
Imma sorry but I'm that person! the CC doesn't make sense as the prisoner of azkaban shows that time doesn't split but goes on as normal, like how Harry saved himself by realising that future him saved him. The CC rather takes the route where the timeline splits when someone goes back in thyme, which shows a rather large plothole once you realise that Harry wouldn't have saved himself if future him didn't save him. It annoys me to no end but ignoring the fact, it's not a half bad plot (Cause I only read the plot and gave up wanting to get the book) and I would've read it was it another story all together.
But the time-turner is stupid thugh. She is given it to be able to take more classes, so it's not even a great cause. It could have been used to save Sirius Blck or Snape, it could even have been used to go back and stop Voldemort! But no, more classes that's the sh*t...
I heard she didn't like the fuzzy hair in the first two movies so they let her wear it normally in the rest of the movies even though Hermione from the books had frizzy hair, also I have heard that's why she had a pixie cut once the movies were done because she was fed up with having to have the same hair style for ten years. I thought she looked great on that Vogue cover with short hair.
so you are saying an 11 year old is responsible enough to have actual invisibility at his disposal? it turns out alright, but we all know a real 11 year old would probably sneak into the girls room first. as for the liquid luck (and the time turner), the point here is that these are some POWERFUL things to be using, and are used for trivial things (of course to make the book/movie interesting and not a deus ex machina) but you would think that everyone would down a glass fool of luck before heading into battle against Voldemort, or someone going back an hour to warn about exactly how the castle is attacked.
Leviathan 77 Boys can't sneak in the girls room. There is magic, that don't allow them in. Book 4, when Ron tried to get in the girls room, to talk with Hermione.
Leviathan 77 all the time turners were destroyed in The Order of The Pheonix, and Hermione had already given back her own. And the liquid luck is extremely hard to make, and takes half a year as well, so that is not that easy. Harry did use it to get the memory about the horcruxes from Slughorn, and the rest he gave to Hermione, Ginny and Ron, the night Dumbledore died.
Also it is explained that the potion of luck is basically MDMA for wizards and using it too often is unhealthy. That's why it isn't produced in large quantities and only very skilled potion makers can craft it.
Nymphadora Tonks I wouldn't say it is complete rubbish, especially in regards to the ministry or actions of some of the adults, especially in the cases of dumbledore and snape - the case can be very well made and have been made by various potter fans about Dumbledore grooming Harry for his ultimate death and the fact that Harry's abuse by his aunt and uncle and cousin is routinely ignored and done nothing by the adults, that Harry had to literally scare and frighten his guardians to give him basic provisions and decency
Ok you can't say that every hufflepuff is high based off a name, the place of the common room and them being nice! Jesus christ does being nice mean you're stoned now?!?!? And seriously until now when I thought of hufflepuff I thought of something cute and huggable and who said hufflepuff were good at herbology!??!? Did you assume that because our head of house is the herbology teacher, this entire video really pissed me off
Hufflepuffs are generaly good at herbology, it's comfirmed by J.K.Rowling but you are right that it's so stupid that people think that they are stoners just because they are nice and look at the world in a more positive way.
Hey! This is a house of nice people who get good grades and are brave in the face of danger! I know, they must be stoners! Also, I agree that I definitely did not think of drugs when I heard the name Hufflepuff. I thought of beanie boos and fluffy teddy bears.
I completely agree with you. I’m a Hufflepuff and this kind of made me feel bad about my house. I think the thing about our name was the most ridiculous, do they not realize that the name Hufflepuff came from one of the founders of Hogwarts last name.
Actually McGonagall couldn't tranform into a cat without Dolores know because every animagus are must be registered on the Ministry of Magic with specific details of the animal they transform into.
McGonagall is not registered because she uses the excuse that her ability to transform is down to her skill in transfiguration and not truly being an animagus. Read The Tales of Beedle the Bard.
There is no evidence that Hermione's parents never saw the Hogwarts express and Harry's baby sitter/neighbour Arabella Figg was a squib placed there to keep an eye on him.
order of pheonix, she mentions she was asked by dumbledore to keep an eye on harry. she is referenced in the previous books a number of times as the person the dursleys shove harry onto when there going out there would be little chance in a wizard even a squib not recognising young harry for who he is therefore she was in on him hiding all along.
I'm not sure wizards know how to use the internet usually. Certainly in the wizarding world they don't and cannot, use muggle technology there (goes haywire with all the magic around).
I was 12 when I first read Harry Potter. I had no illusions about the fact that the Wizarding World was screwed up. I mean come on, Harry lived in a flipping closet.
I know I am. I think I'm big enough and fat enough to bear a bit of "fat shaming." I even feel it's a badge of office I'm quite proud of, so bring it on.
Ikr, every even remotely old film doesn't censor itself to death, everything today is kid friendly and noone else can enjoy anything "mainstream" anymore
I don't think people should be bullied for being fat but it shouldn't been seen as a good lifestyle choice like them social justice warriors make it out to be.
It's a war on the war against drugs... it's being talked about as much as it is , to get rid of laws that are predatory and cause more harm than good. I do love the comment though.
Lol....what`s wrong with cannabis? Its not like its bad for you. For the most part, it grows naturally. True drugs are enhanced by people chemically in some way.
You do know that Dudley Dursley doesn't actually exist in real life, right... I'm sure an imaginary character in a book won't be too upset about fat shaming.
+Henry 52 it's all the fat people watching, that feel that a fat character being ridiculed onscreen, is a personal attack against them and their lack of motivation or determination to change their habits and do something about their weight. How dare others make them feel ashamed of being a burden on society, when it is within their power to pull their own weight, so to speak.
There are so many things wrong with this video 1) The cloak of invisibility was James's, Dumbledore had it because he was trying to unite the Hallows, when he realised he couldn't he returned it to Harry. 2) Umbridge was evil but not an idiot, she would have recognised the markings around the cats eyes, (McGonnagal's glasses) and known it wasn't just a random cat 3) Everything Dumbledore did was to help harry defeat Voldemort, whether it seemed cruel or not. 4) Hermione's parents were on the platform with er her and therefore saw the train. 5) No wizards visited Harry because the Dursleys' would have thrown him out and left him defenceless, also if Harry had know he was a wizard he would have wanted to leave, and he was only safe when 'he could call their house home' no matter how hard it was living there 6) The spells are based on Latin words, they wouldn't have been deliberately dirty. 7) Harry gives away the Felix Felicis at the end of the 5th book, to Ginny, Hermione and Ron therefore couldn't have been any help against Voldemort Sorry but next time, read th books
the last one you didn't do your research, the marauders map only reveals people you may want to avoid or find, they didn't know peter, but harry did and was looking for him. You should really complete your research
and you should read the books. in the books we are told only the creators of the map can see each other in animagus form they only made it harry in the films who sees petegrew because of plot
Good books aren't an excuse for bad movies. Movies should be able to stand completely in their own right. Any argument based off a book is irrelevant in an argument about the movie. That being said, I like the movies, I just think there are plot holes.
Okay. First: You didn't read the books. Most of you're Arguments don't make sense. Second: There are much more things to notice as an adult. The things that maybe aren't logical like the thing with Peter Pettigrew were things I noticed when I was eight years old. The really deep and dark aspects are the ones you don't really notice as a child, the touching stories and the pain, also sometimes the lovestories (when you are really young) or when you didn't really be sure about the timeline and all events happening. If the book was really analysed then there could maybe be a good video including things that were REALLY not noticed as a child, not only things that make the story bad or unlogical.
@@christianlang348 and are you claming that this is a good video Beacuse Its obiviously not All the "plot holes Are not plot holes since all of them are explained in the book And *T*H*E*Y* *H*A*V*E*N*T* even read the books dumbass
A pointless video for a pointless channel. Has anyone at looper ever read one of the books. Also J. K. Rowling is a writer. That means she tells the reader what people are and doing and how they look in detail so that you know how to picture them. Bringing some bullshit that has passed almost ten years ago is pretty desperate in my opinion.
i normally like your videos..... but i need to ask.. have u even READ the books?, what is this a harry potter bashing video? NONE of the stuff u mentioned has any real merit except the VERY last one, as i can explain every single other one off the top of my head without even needing to get a book out.. yeah the wormtail one i also found strange. but the map could have very well had him labled as "wormtail" instead of "peter petigrew" and idk maybe the twins tought that was a fitting name for "scabbers" still i aree with that flaw.. but the rest is total bs..
Also about the Marauder's map..... That map is gigantic, and the twins use it only for pranks. Why would they pay attention to who they're little brother is spending time with?
Swiftkitten88 actually Dumbledore's actions and the general ignorance of abuse by adults is actually very much filled with merits It should not have taken Harry himself to frighten his aunt and uncle into actually giving him a bedroom and treat him better - someone should have done more to ensure Vernon and Petunia weren't abusing Harry - having a squib watching from afar didn't jack shit Harry suffered child abuse by the hands of his aunt and uncle and cousin, yet that is an issue that is widely ignored by Dumbledore and other adults who never did anything to properly ensure Harry's welfare - the only person to literally do so was Harry himself with the help of Sirius
Swiftkitten88 I believe when someone is in their animagus form, you need to know that he/she is an animagus to make them visible on the map. In Prisoner of Azkaban, Lupin found Peter on the Marauder's Map because he knew that Peter is an animagus. However, the Weasley twins didn't know that Peter is an animagus. So they didn't see Peter on the Marauder's map
Some of this is the failures of the films to portray the books’ complexity some of it is a lack of understanding from the video makers. There are some very troubling things in Harry Potter. These aren’t them however.
mooglemania Voldemort became Voldemort because he chose to. There is literally nothing in his life that excuses, justifies, or mitigates why he became what he did. That was entirely his own doing.
I have solved the Peter sleeping with Ron issue; only a Marauder can see another marauder on the map. In the books, Harry never sees wormtail on the map and it wad lupin whoop sees him and runs to the shrieking shack. It makes sense that the marauder's would want to remain unseen if someone were to take the map but they would want to know where their friends are
they are all the information that was put to screen though, and no-one should have to read books to get the full story from movies. But if all the book fans constantly have to say "read the books" in order to understand something, that means you're outright admitting that the HP films are BAD!.
Samur/Aye Studios not true, the books are long and very detailed so the movies could not have gotten all the information, the movies get the main plot and some side stuff, but the books have more information
that is what I said... "they are all the information *that was put to screen* " .... and for Potter fans to constantly be saying "you have to read the books to understand this and that" means that the movies did a bad job in conveying certain information. Watching the movies SHOULDN'T require anyone to read a book, that's why they made it into a film in the first place.
Well then they ARE saying that the movies are bad!!!!! Obviously people have not catched on ads to what was not happening and this video is proof of that!!!!
The weasly twins can be exused for not picking up on the wierd name for three reasons.1. What older brother truly cares what their younger brother is doing (especially when he sleeps literally like two floora down from them).2. Would it be that unsurprising to see your brother hanging out with some kid during lights out? It's not like upperclassmen pay attention to everyone in the school and they probably just assumed that it was someone in his class.3. They were hiding the map because they stole it. They wouldn't risk pulling it out where others could see they had it because they could have been expelled.
JNCressey it is exactly as Blackbriar95 stated, if you die and "become" a ghost, what's really left of you is just an imprint on the world that will never change in his core set of emotions or it's "mindset". Even with her 60+ years, she is still a teenage girl, because she's not really a person, only a personality, that can't change on its own. Blackbriar95 I completely forgot about Olive Hornby... you're right. She never got over that and tried to drive that girl crazy. And when she tried to ruin her wedding, Olive had her reported to the Ministery of Magic and she got a restraining order to never get close to Olive Hornby again. That's the real reason she now haunts the toilets of Hogwarts.
