Could we get a video on the deprogramming that Germans went through after the war? Like how did we get to how Germany is today after so much indoctrination among the youth? That would be an interesting video!
In the case of my grandparents, who were both in the youth programs but were still too young to fight by the wars end, basically 0. When they came to Canada in the 50s (I think 50s) they had basic "welcome to life in canada" type classes for a little, but it was directed at all immigrants, not towards germans, and was all in english, which they could barely understand at the time.
My uncle was tank driver in Russia, my father was in the Hitler Youth, Flakhelfer (anti-aircraft crew) and was to be in the Volkssturm fighting off the russians, but all ran when the tanks came. He turned 18 two days before the capitulation. You did not notice anything that had remained from that time. They rarely ever spoke about it. The trick is to bring normal people of a civilized country to go along by SLOOOOOOOOWLY nudging them on and on. Keeping the nasty stuff out of sight, under wraps. And the Nazis were good, kept up huge refuges normality even in the war. You can have totally innocent movies from even in the war that you can show without bad conscience today. "Die Feuerzangenbowle"; "Quax der Bruchpilot", "Münchhausen", "Große Freiheit Nr. 7", all totally unpolitical. Nationalism, honour, duty, solidarity with your comrades - can be positive or negative. Do not forget, up to 1939, months before the war began, the US Nazis could fill the Madison Square Garden. With everything, with brown uniforms, fanatic speeches, almost more rabid as the german Nazis. And they all simply dissolved back in the US society, and no one talked about them, wondered where they were.... On May 8, 1945, the constant battering fell away Most people simply dropped back in normal mode. All symbolism was rapidly abolished, all flags, all Hitler portraits and busts, all swastikas from buildings, all 'Mein Kampf's, The complete leadership was arrested. The system had been highly organized, was based on following orders. You replace those that have the say, make a new set of orders, the new orders are followed. A lot of politicians that had fled Germany returned. And the people had better things to do than trying to undermine the rules that forbid fascist symbols and ideology. They were busy to try to survive, to build up a new living, to rebuild Germany. Some city were destroyed to 70%. And then there were the liberators, they had eversthing. They gave out chocolate to the kids. Funny that many higher Nazis ended up in organisations that were cooperating with the US. Not only Wernher von Braun and his staff that went to the NASA, but also in other positions. The german intelligence agency was filled with people that came from more or less the same area in the 3rd Reich. And there were of course organisations that undertook to handle the past, not as Nationalist glorification of the past, of concentrating on the appealing sides of fascism, and there were many, you could have a really good life there), but worked out what the implications were, how vicious the methods were, how innocent each single step was, but in their accumulation they added up to bring pwople to do things they would have never done before. And in the beginning at least, everyone had experienced the disadvantages first hand, doing your duty, all the sacrifices had been of no avail, you had lost even though you had given everything, you knew people who had died, you saw the cities in ruins, had seen the giant piles of skin-covered skeletons that had been people. We got a new constitution, written to avoid a takeover that the previous constitution had allowed, including the good parts of other constitutions. Just days ago, someone said a constitution where the first article is "The dignity of the human is untouchable" is really badass. There were still Nazis around, for a long time we even had an NPD, a nationalist party, but especially the post-war generation was really against it. Thom Hartmann found a quote "When the last survivor of a war that can tell his tale, then it is time for another war". One can really have this impression. The right gets stronger and stronger, one can see that there where the people had no a real personal experience of fascism (where the US troops came, the working fascism vanished) are way more apt to fall for the methods of it.
There was a period of intense denazification during the occupation and afterwards. The Allies threw a lot of money and time into eradicating the National Socialist ethos from German minds.
My grand-aunt was a “horizontal collaborator” in Western Norway. She had a lebensborn son, and was chased out of her city (and the country) after the war as a “German Girl.” There is an entire branch of my family that now lives in Sweden because of a 17-year-old girl sleeping with an SS guy.
Sounds like the life story of one of the singers from the group ABBA. Anni-Frid Lyngstad was born in Norway to a German father and Norwegian mother. Her mother and grandmother eventually had to move to Sweden after the war due to the threat of reprisals against collaborators.
That's awful. Especially since she was so young, and the situation where she met him was very likely coercive or iffy on some level, considering the power of SS. She was too young to be considered a willing "collaborator" (honestly, many "willing" "horizontal collaborators" were in a situations where collaboration was the only safe way for her and her birth family to live. Meaning it wasn't really free and informed choice😔)
@Sienisota Yeah. It was "I can be in this relationship (quote unquote) willingly and maybe get some extra food to bring home and my family will be safe from nazi harrassment. Or I can refuse, get r*ped anyway, maybe killed, my family wont get extra food or be protected". I dont blame any girl or woman who was forced to make that choice to protect themselves or their family. In times of war you do what you must to make sure you and yours survive. And if you are a girl or young woman, especially back then when women didnt do all that much fighting, hooking up with an enemy occupier is a tool in your arsenal for survival. Some female resistance members did it too, so they could learn secrets or copy documents.
My great uncle was in Hitler Youth as a teen. In order to flee Germany, my great grandparents had to drug him and then lied that he was very ill. He was allowed to sober up on the ship to the US until he tried to jump overboard. He passed away a few years ago but I was always fascinated by his life growing up in Nazi Germany. He was lo I dband grumpy but at times I could hear the regret in his voice. He married a Jewish woman from Canada and they had 2 sons together.
I'm German, and my grandad was in the SS, which meant he also had an ancestry passport. As sinister as the ideology behind it was, today it's a treasure trove for a genealogy nut like me, because it goes back to the mid- to late 1700s, and thus we've got an almost complete family tree from that side of the family.
Not to be cruel, but I have that too (back to the 1200's on my side and 1066 on my husband's), without it having been a requirement to avoid being targeted and murdered by my government. Unfortunately, many of my Jewish friends can't really trace their genealogy past the 1930's...
I was able to quite easily trace my maternal grandmother's ancestry back to late 1500s England, a few generations prior to them coming over on the Mayflower. Haven't been able to find much about my dad's side though.
@@phaedrapage4217Don't have it but both my parents were able to trace them. (And even if Belgium was under Nazi's occupations, Walloons were not really appreciated by nazis, especially compared to Flemmish, and the one province I'm from have a lot of stories about the resistance)
What's most ironic is that Hitler himself wasn't a "pure aryan" and would have been considered a mongrol and "lesser" human by his own regime's standards.
No, he wasn't. He had blue eyes, btw. Denazification never stopped, it's been going for decades. You've been propagandized for so long you don't know fact from fiction.
Yes, have to make a difference between German children forced to join Nazi programs and much worse case of russian children WILLINGLY joining putin's russia supremacist squads, "Jugendarmy"
@@BeckBeckGomakes sense since it is all the knew. Their brains were also not fully developed which means that the act like a sponge and soak in any information that they can
A friend of my dad grew up during WW2 and was in the Hitler Youth. He used to tell my dad stories of his childhood and young adulthood. He would cry as he talked about what he'd seen and experienced. He came to Ireland as soon as he could and never went back. He hated his German accent and the links he had to WW2, however small. He said Ireland was his real home. Little sidenote: I do think it would be good if basic skills such as cooking, sewing and running a household were compulsory for both boys and girls in school. I remember having to teach my ex how to use a washing machine, cook a few basic meals that could be frozen if there were extras and clean when he moved out of his parents into his own flat. They're necessary skills that kids aren't being taught anymore
In germany its actually part of the school, its called "Hauswirtschaftskunde" (literally house econimcs knowledge) and teaches you the basics of cooking, everyday use of money and so on, in our case that meant we were running the little shop that sold food during the lunch breaks, cooking, buying and keeping stock on the supplies and cleaning the kitchen, it was basically like managing a small Restaurant. Side note in germany each state kinda does their own thing with education based on a federal base line, so my experience may only apply to Berlin, but i know other states did have it too, probably just slightly different.
I completely agree with your side note. I thought of it myself during a lot of the educational requirements. Physical fitness, check, household skills, check. The girls actually received a far more useful education. Managing a home is hard work, even if you have hired help. There's so much economic planning involved.
As an interesting footnote, I recommend the autobiography of Hans-Jürgen Massaquoi a Hamburg born German, whose father was black Liberian. He was born in 1926, so came of age during the Nazi years. His experiences firstly in Germany, then Africa and later the USA make for a fascinating read. (He even ended up in the US military fighting in Korea, although he was German)
Anyone who watched or read the man in high Castle knows about the very interesting way that it portrayed the Lebensborn and the duality of a life and status they never asked for.
Ha - yup totally, the first thing that came to my mind. Ive spent much of my life learning about history, esp 20th C politics and wars, and Lebensborn was something I had come across in name but not found too much about. A fabulous series we love to watch on a binge rotation! Highly recommend it.
People who got injured in work-related accidents were sometimes tried under espionage laws..."your injury resulted in a decrease in production." A similar fate befell Soldiers with combat related injuries...they were accused of being inured on purpose, to avoid fighting. Hundreds of decorated soldiers were executed for the 'crime' of not being able to fight.
@pirobot668beta I really doubdt it. It sounds like something from the Soviet Union, not from the Reich. Can you tell any source? Even an article, or a wiki page.
Surely none of these practises are still in use around the world... I mean, we definitly have learned that indoctrination of children, teachings of superiority, forcing art to confirm to their ideals, etc is bad, right? If only...
@@maplesugarbush The U.S. and Trump? Only a neomarxist liberal or a pathetic brainwashed tool with TDS would think that. Which are you? Inquiring minds want to know.
It's a good thing America isn't obsessed with race, showing preference to some and penalizing others on account of their ancestry. That would just be damn weird.
America has its issues but they're not kidnapping hundreds of thousands of children to put them into brainwash camps. The russians do it in Ukraine. And world does nothing to stop it.
Fun fact: the 'Degenerate Art' exhibition attracted more than twice as many attendees as the officially approved art exhibition across town. Possibly the only time modern art has been successfully marketed to the general public.
Impressionism started in a very similar way: several artists and works were refused by the French 'salon', so another 'salon des refusés' was held that attracted far more visitors. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salon_des_Refus%C3%A9s
@StefanMedici The Streisand effect. Barbra Streisand was mad her home showed up on google maps or some other public image (dont remember exactly what it was) like that, and made a big public stink about her house being on it and wanting it removed and not wanting people to look at it. Which caused a ton of people who had no other interest in her or her house to go look at it.
One brilliant English teacher made clever use of this effect to get teenagers interested in Shakespeare: she encouraged them to find all the innuendo and double entendres in Romeo and Juliet. Suddenly the students were very, very interested 😂
The worst part about lebensborn is the treatment by the allies afterward. Those kids did not deserve being shunned and mistreated their entire lives just because their already vulnerable mothers were taken advantage off by the nazis. The kids were not at fault and the way governments just looked away is appaling.
If you care to watch the video again, and/or read other comments, it wasn't the Allies the ones who mistreated those kids, but the people of their hometowns. Hard as is to believe it, invaded and subjugated by a totalitarian regime's people don't look gladly at perceived collaborators, and children of the oppressors. There are plenty of photos of women who were lovers of Nazi officers, beaten and their hair shaved by their own neighbors proving that.
@@Roz-y2dIn the Netherlands, children of German soldiers were absolutely treated very badly. They were called "moffenkinderen" with moffen being the Dutch derogatory word for Germans and they were treated like second class citizens.
I mean the Germans didn't take advantage of them like at all lol so I don't get where you're getting that outrageous lie that cannot be proven to be true at all what so ever
It just proves how insidious & stupid racism is: because he told them what they wanted to hear, they overlooked that he was lying to them (Sounds familiar?)
It wasn't totally uncommon for the nazis to take blond hair, blue eye Jewish children under the age of 4 or so when they were brought to ghettos and camps. They'd be adopted into German families and have no idea they were adopted or that they were of Jewish descent.
0:50 - Chapter 1 - Aryan baby factories 5:05 - Chapter 2 - Children games 8:30 - Chapter 3 - The nazification of art 12:35 - Chapter 4 - Nazi young movement 16:20 - Chapter 5 - Racial lineage in nazi germany
Sparta? What about Egypt, China, Rome, the Vikings, the Church? Nazi Germany controlled Germany the exact same way humanity had been controlled throughout history. Just think about the Roman Empire, it was a highly indoctrinated society, where every aspect was influenced by what the government or ruler wanted. Vikings also killed of their defective children, it's been a normal practice throughout humanities existence, just like animals, bc there's no reason to keep a defective mouth to feed around. It's really only in the latter half of the 19th century, that people started having some kind of freedom to see the World in their own view. It was also in this time, that the average quality of life started going up, not saying it was good, but better than before. This is also the time when democracies came into being, then the Nazis came in and toppled a Western European country back to being ruled by, effectively, an emperor. Given an emperor with some quite insane ideas.
@@crampusmaximus8849 if you ever come to the area where Sparta was you will see that they only have a boring museum (and I mean uninteresting for layman and historian alike) and the statue. Its not like the greece treat Leonidas or Sparta like it was special...
@@Lodrik18people absolutely consider the Spartans to be some sort of perfect Martial State. Of course this is only if they have a surface level understanding of Sparta. Anyone with any knowledge knows it was a weird backwater.
I am a proper mutt with a seriously german surname. The other kids gave me some crap in school when we covered wwii stuff, I pointed out even then that my coloring doesn't gel with the aryan ideal, and I don't look definitively "not jewish". Those weren't difficult numbers to crunch. Thank you for this video covering the deeper subtleties of nazis' xenophobia & resulting actions.
In my case, I am 100% what Nazis would have called the "Aryan race" with the most Nazi sounding last name I've ever heard, but I am a trans woman who was always very outwardly feminine even as a kid, so I never got that growing up, instead I got called the f-slur a lot.
I live in an area with many people who are part Indigenous Canadian. Many of them have the "aryan colouring" but have Indigenous blood. I'm mixed race myself and have been asked if I'm Spanish or Italian. I am neither. Goes to show that appearance has nothing to do with the actual truth of genetics and ethnicity. I've seen 2 very white looking people give birth to a baby with dark hair and brown skin.
@@thekween9037 no they would have called you untermensh and sent you to a camp or deported you you're probably young so stop being a Troon and grow up
'This episode of Sideprojects was brought to you by ancestry DNA' would have been a perfect place for an add role when talking about ancestry passports. I wonder what would have been worse having Jewish blood or incest occurring a little too frequently, turning the family tree into a family shrub. Would they be like 'Oh, that's the reason we all have blonde hair and blue eyes.' 😅
George, your work on Casual Criminalist is truly exemplary, with respect to the lengths you go to research the cases you write about and the general pacing of the script. As another commenter pointed out, the original title probably included the word "weird", but its repeated use sounded somewhat forced. The last Sideprojects script you wrote could also have used some polish. However, your past writing shows true talent and dedication and I'm looking forward to your next script!
I'm German and went to US High School for a year; in retrospect I felt properly indoctrinated. One aspect I found interesting was how preparing us for the next football game can be compared to how the American population is prepared for the next war.
you germans really have different standards for different people right? id like to see how you would make such a pareallel to someones face in germany. as an eastern european its ridiculous how we get shut up at any parallels of stalinism and nazism and accused of double genocide theory but comapring literal nazis to amecan schools and football games is somehow ok. i see.@@tubensalat1453
Why do I get the feeling this video was originally called '5 "weird" things you didn't know about the Nazis!' and someone changed it last minute without telling Simon or the script team!?
I have a mini documentary DVD set called Occult History of the Third R**ch, was pretty good, might still be available on Amazon They cover Goebbels trying to creat a religion Had to censor a word, BECAUSE RU-vid KEEPS DELETING MY COMMENT 🙄
This is why I got so irritated when one Filipino coworker said to me 'your lipstick looks nice on you, it makes your face look more white'. I also had this one Filipino customer that dyed her hair blond and would wear blue contact lenses. My Filipino brother-in-law doesn't like it when his skin darkens in the summer, his family wanted his kids to be white like my side of the family. It makes me feel bad sometimes for having blond hair and blue eyes. All races are beautiful and no race is superior to the other.
I got told in China that I was beautiful because I was white by a little old lady. I just thanked her, but my brain was thinking "you must not know many white people". Also, white skin is terrible for an even skin tone. Spots and variants of colour everywhere. I believe the root cause of preference for white skin is the "rich enough not to work in the sun" thing. Nothing else makes sense to me.
As much as I hate the nazi regime, I have to say I'm impressed how they subversed every aspect of life in such a short period of time whereas my local government has had multiple decades to get their act together and they can't even fix potholes.... 😅
Your local government is just as busy subverting your country but this time with mass immigration, critical race theory, diversity and LGBTQ indoctrination in schools and media 😅
Please! People forget about the even weirdest elements of it, much like Scientology and the B-52's dropping nukes into ancient alien volcanos on the other side of the galaxy. Or so the legend goes... ;-)
Most of the Nazi stuff was based on Madam Blavatsky’s occultism with an extra dollop of Northern European mythology chucked in. Scientology was created by a snake-oil hustler who hung out with Aleister Crowley who was, incidentally, also linked to the same Theosophical Movement. I could script that vid…
A few years ago while I was in Germany, the art museum in Mannheim had an exhibit of Jewish art that had been banned, but hidden to avoid destruction. Side note, that art museum is absolutely incredible in general and I highly recommend it to everyone.
IF a game named 'Bombers over London' had Scapa Flow as a target, it really doesn't say much for their navigation! Don't forget that in the UK during the 1980's you could buy an 'Action Man' Panzer Captain, and believe it or not, and Action Man 'Camp Commander' complete with wooden baton! Amazed that they didn't have another one in a blue and white striped suit with a yellow star on the pocket!
Look at any modern military shooter video game, most have you mowing down brown people or other foreign types. Propaganda and indoctrination is still quite prevalent in children's entertainment. The commando comics of the 70s and 80s portrayed the enemy as stereotypes in a similar vain. I guess a lot of this is more appealing to a countries relatable history and values rather than outright propaganda but we are not that different to germans 80 years ago in our entertainment media really.
Except the video games your talking about are made for adults hence adult themes and situations. I remember all the shock, outrage then finger pointing about the opening mission on COD modern warfare 2 when it first came out. Although it was rated mature those parents who bought it for there children blew their lids when they realised their darlings were experiencing terriorsm from the terrorists POV 😂😂 The propaganda and indoctrination aimed at German youth were completely different things
@@danoliver7044 because while the airport scene in MW2 was a plot device and a pretty decent condemnation of false flag attacks, indoctrination en masse is, well... indoctrination en masse
For the Nazis being blonde hair and blue-eyed was not as important as being Aryan. If you were Slavic and had blonde hair and blue eyes, which is common for Slavs, you were still considered subhuman.
@@darkhobo I think the whole blonde hair blue eyed anti-Slav thing is mainly only believed by Anglo boomers now with the internet. Most of their racial beliefs came from India anyway, the Hyperborean belief from Tilak and a lot of prominent members believing the Aryans originated in India before invading Europe as opposed to the Pontic-Caspian steppe
Only the adults. 200 thousand Polish children which looked Aryan were kidnapped and placed at German families. Only a handful were returned to their rightful families.
@@zyyl1949Ukraine was highly praised, and there were hundreds of thousands of Russians fighting with them as well. Ironically modern genetics shows Slavs are haplogroup r1b, most closely related to the original Aryans, after the Norwegians and Lithuanians
Why was the photo of Czeslawa Kwoka used when you discussed "children who resisted indoctrination"? She was murdered after the forcible removal of Poles for the Lebensraum programme.
Hey! Thanks for the interesting video. Would it be possible to link your sources in a pinned comment or description? That way we can look into them for further information.
Fun Fact: "The Producers" uses actual nazi propaganda, as in the hilarious play that makes no sense that the 2 main characters end up producing is a real nazi play that actually existed. It was just taken seriously in Germany because fascism doesn't allow criticism, but in a freer country, it's propaganda value absolutely falls apart with the first chuckle.
OMG - in our family that would have to be our most favourtie musical movie EVER. Seriously - even our kids who are now young adults, we schooled them in history as it was a subject that got removed from school - and so they actually got most of the jokes in the film, and also know every word to every song! So so funny. ive seen earlier versions and theyre nothing close to the amazing end sequence show. And seriously - the songs are just pure gold. Probably the best payback by Mel Brooks and cool he had a secret role!
@floxy20 "The Producers" is a Mel Brooks movie about 2 struggling Broadway Producers who come across a nazi play that, when removed from the context of nazi Germany is so ridiculous it comes across as a parody. Seriously it's got ballerinas dressed as pretzels and tap dancing SS officers.
@steel8231 and America has been so successful in its victory that it now has men dressed up as women, and degenerates twerking for children. Remind me again which societal model is the more ridiculous?
If Aryans were supposed to be so perfect with blonde hair and blue eyes why did Hitler himself have dark brown hair and brown eyes? I’ve never been able to understand that.
The way the nazi party used the word 'Aryan' is incorrect. This term refers to a very particular tribe from I forget precisely where and not a description of one's features. 'Racial purity' has always been a myth used for control. Hitler himself was born Austrian.
@@jaded_gerManicIn the 19th and 20th centuries the Indo-Europeans were referred to as the Aryans, just as they are to this day in India. The genetic and linguistic data wasn’t there so some of them actually believed they originated in India and spread into Europe, as opposed to invading India and Iran from the Pontic-caspian steppe
I don’t think it was weird at all. It was the logical conclusion given what was happening in the Jim Crowes south and in the colonies at the time. The Germans just brought those tactics to Western Europe and Europeans got to see it front and center at home.
it's amazing how people talk about Nazis as if they invented eugenics when they just took American ideas to the logical next step, now we can see that it never entirely went away in the US, it just went quiet for awhile
@@fogcat5 Exactly, they sent people to the US to learn how segregation was legally implemented. They also were influenced by Henry Ford’s International Jew writings.
Mr. Egghead is from England. Even 78 years after the war they like to talk about "the evil Nazis". Ironically the average person in Nazi Germany could buy a rifle and ammunition without any kind of license. Getting a pistol and a right to carry was a shall issue. The average person in "democratic" Britain at that time could hardly own a pistol, and today only their fucking lords are allowed to own pistols. Interesting. On top of that he's generally dishonest and ill informed in his videos, no matter the subject. I'm an anarchist, BTW. I simply point out the inconsistency and hypocrisy. All states are criminal organizations, existing without the voluntary consent of the ruled. So called dictatorships only use more open violence to hold people in check than "democracies" (usually at least).
Think about how much more effective modern military propaganda is than some shitty board game and youll realize how bad things are today. Call of duty, battlefield, war thunder etc they all get money and oversight by the US military and its not just for the love of the game
If there is one thing we learned from Nazis is how not to do propaganda. The US and also many other countries now use propaganda carefully placed to steer the people where u want them. We are now in a 20-30 year old indoctrination of being leftists only...without questioning. We are so brainwashed that facts dont matter and feelings are the new red line that we suppose to follow. Science is of increasingly low value and constantly gets watered down by agendas. And there are many of it because everything and everyone with power asserts it onto us. The industry, politics, rich billionaires...they all work on shaping us. 😂
My paternal grandfather (born 1922) seldom spoke about his youth and the war, but he once told my father that he was a very fervent fascist - we're Italian and he was born in the year when fascism took power. It all came crumbling down in 1943, while he was a cadet at the Marine Academy, and Italy surrendered to the Allies. He and all his comrades were surrounded by nazis (he called them "Germans") who were there at the Academy, taken as hostages and moved to a concentration camp in Germany for the next two years. He said that all that he believed in was destroyed that day, and I can vouch that, in the time that I had to know him, he was always a very fervent antifascist.
Trying to restrict art and literature, viewing women as breeding machines, teaching kids to use guns... Are we talking about German Nazis or US Republicans here?
literally any long lasting society in human history viewed women as breeding machines (quite literally what they are created to do), and most societies during that time period also viewed modernist socially liberal artwork/ideologies as degenerate N0zis got some stuff right such as their nationalism, anti feminism, anti modernity and animal rights but their racism, anti semitism, militarism, centralized economics and leadership were beyond evil
There was a German board game called “Jews Out!” where the goal was to move all Jewish pieces outside the town (board). Surprised they didn’t cover this game in this video.
My great uncle was born in Austria during the depression, when he was 8 years old his father took him to Munich to look for work. Shortly after arriving, his father died and the authorities either couldn't trace his family or didn't try and he was fostered by a German family. When he came of age he was conscripted. Fortunately he was captured in the trenches of France before he could be seriously injured and he was taken to England as a POW. Since he was still an able bodied young man he was put to work on a farm where he met my great aunt and they got married after the war. He had a son, a couple of grandchildren and died a couple of years ago after living a full and active life.
Honestly, the Lebensborn and racial purity aspects are weird. They make no sense and were often counterproductive to the success of the regime. But the art, youth groups, and games make total sense - especially when you consider how important a role Goebbels had in the game. While the Nazis screwed a lot of stuff up, they took all the lessons of how to control a society and put them to practice, and it shows. They were determined to put all facets of German life under their control, and did so with success that even controlling powers like North Korea, China, or Stalinist USSR could never dream of. It's an example of how to control society completely, and how even the smallest things can be used. Like "The Prince", it's an example of how to be a terrible ruler and regime, and something to study to detect if your government, work, church, or other organizations are trying to control you. Consider how many churches and political parties put limits on art and what is and isn't acceptable. How many places require children to participate in schooling that is focused on instilling ideology and indoctrination of various ideas. How many books and other materials are edited or made to be pleasing or acceptable alternatives to mainstream productions. These aren't weird - they are everyday occurrences in the modern world, continuing on today in most countries to one degree or another.
Yeah, my mind is comparing it to life in California now. The laws that are being passed and trying to be passed seem very segregationalist. Instead of each person being themselves. People are being put into groups. Groups that fight each other. Or are being oppressed by others. It is weird
@@craigpoerdivide and conquer. Also, ensure that anyone criticising or standing against the approved narrative is collectively labelled a bigot, Fascist (how ironic), evil, -phobic etc. and subject to imprisonment for hurting their “victim’s” feelings.
I read a marketing book back in 1989, and one of the chapters quoted some Madison Avenue execs from the time (1980s) saying that the way Hitler and the Nazis marketed Nazism to their whole country, was something to be admired in the ad world. A shame I can't remember the book's title though.
@@stewartmiddleton4527 I can believe that. Goebbels was a genius at marketing and propaganda. It was probably the most effective PR campaign of all time. His playbook has been used for decades since by a wide variety of governments, and has been used in marketing campaigns and other matters since. The man is a horrible person, willing to do anything for money and power. He was fine committing basically atrocity as long as it left him wealthy and powerful. He was an extremely evil and selfish man. That being said, the man was still a genius at marketing and propaganda, and his influence lives on in many ways and places. It is a step by step guide to manipulating the public, or a guide to how not to be manipulated.
This hot take might get me some hate mail......... The Hitler Youth program doesn't sound all that much different from many scouting programs from that era. Boys have long been indoctrinated in national pride, social beliefs, and skills handy for military service. And then there's issues of racial segregation, scouts' religious beliefs, gender and sexual identies, etc. To call the Nazi indoctrination of its youth weird is really just putting blinders on to our own nations' weirdness. Even more so, it just ignores every single way we rear our children, from gender-specific color palettes, to toys, hobbies, clothing styles, hair styles, reading choices, career paths, etc. Humans are all weird, making the Nazi youth just plain old normal on that point.
A lot of this type of thing goes on all over the world. I think the difference is the way it was systematically used to manipulate the people and ultimately kill anyone who didn't abide. Also, the whole taking over the world with a master race thing😂😂😂
The original idea that became the Boy-Scouts was to keep adults fit for military service (the adults didnt like it while the kids did so the inventor reworked parts to make it appropriate, YET the scouts dont teach you the use of guns ect so I think you go to far (I guess you never were in them?)). In the same way we are influenced by our environment but its just fucked up to teach your kids that you are better and others are inproper humans that have to die... My understanding (as a german) is that: The Nazis viewed everything but them as bad while todays society says that we are all unique and thats fine.
You have to look at in context. Racial identity was a big thing back then and not just a Nazi thing, German/European Jews also had racial identity rules - which were than adopted by the Nazis to determine who was or wasn't a Jew and used in the Wansee Conference.
if you haven't already done an ep. on the kids affected from this indoctrination, could you do one now? you know, like 20, 30 or 40 years later and how it has affected germans(e and w) and what has happened?
I knew a German girl (from Stuggart) and she seemed perfectly normal to me. Worked with a couple two (never mentioned the war) Two of them had dark hair the other a bottle blond.
If you press the cog symbol at the top of the screen, you can change the playback speed of the video. I usually put the subtitles on & reduce the speed a little. 😊
A friend of mine cleans out vacated apartments and ran across a couple copies of an empty "Ahnenpass", literally an "ancestry passport" which you were supposed to fill out to prove your Aryan descent. They could've made that into a fun kids' game called "Ahnenspass" ("Ancestry Fun") where the first kid to prove seven generations of pure blood gets to be SS-Gauleiter...
Its wild being an american seeing that there are even more parallels between what's going on here and what went on in Germany than I could even imagine... Its like a mirror image distorted by time
Pronunciation!! The first E in LEBENSBORN should have the same sound as in FEAR and PIER. Simon mispronounces it "LIEBENSBORN" with the sound of FIELD and MEET. The distinction is important as LEBEN means "life" and LIEBE means "love". Lebensborn means "fount of life", whereas "Liebensborn" would mean "born from love".
I wonder if the children from this program who were blonde haired and blue eyed later intentionally chose partners who weren’t to try to have children who weren’t “Aryan ideals”?
After the war I would have no doubt they wanted to breed that out of their children. If you listen to older black women, they heard and also told there girls to find white men to have lighter babies.
I mean, degenerate seems a valid description of modern art. Not defending NAZIS, but the art thing is like the least problematic thing to come from the third Reich
I find it most alarming that so many people seem willing - nay, excited - to embrace the idea of so-called “A.I.” art and writing. All it takes is gradual reprogramming to produce just one approved narrative, which I understand can already be seen in chatGPT. Shared art and literature (alongside verbal storytelling) underpin all cultures and societies, and you can add music to that, too. Imagine what the Nazi party could’ve done with “A.I.”!
I AM NOT A NAZI... However, I have been working in a baby factory that I call my house. Seriously, I've lost count. Could anyone out there take 1 or 5 off my hands? They only look "that way", I swear. So tired.
Yea dood. American conservatism in America in 2023 is exactly like National Socialism. National Socialism was a largely Pan German nationalist party, it’s fashionable today to make over reaching connections between Nazis and Jews but really the first and primary goal of the party was also a restructuring of the borders and the terms of the November crime. Conservatism in America is really a dissident branch of parliamentarian politics that developed during the 17th century in England under the puritans and the round heads. They largely stood against the privileges and the power of the aristocracy and the crown and the landed gentry that came to power under the Tudors, but dissent did cut across religious, social and economic lines as well. Many were artisans and skilled laborers part of the newly burgeoning bourgeoisie. They felt as people feel inclined to feel sometimes they were being subjected to an unfair system. The Nazis came into power in Jan 33 but it’s not til March 34 when Hitler passes the Enabling Act and then we can get a real look at the National Socialist revolution in Germany. Many German historians at the time or rather Nazis historians did compare this to the 1688 glorious revolution in England, but the contrast is so stark that we don’t even really need to touch on it but I will. The real heart of National Socialism is the SS. That is the party enforcer from without but more importantly from within. The SS originally was made up of roughneck veterans from the First World War who helped the SDP quell the Spartacus uprisings. They were old fighters “front line fighters” from the regiments that came from the trenches. In the aftermath of slaughter they endured in the trenches they lost all their social prestige and over night became wandering bands of vagrants. They fought with the commies and the Poles and the Austrians and anyone really trying to secure a better position for themselves on the map at the expense of the Fatherland in the wake of the First World War. Their ethos is that of heroic realism, inspired by the camaraderie and brotherhood of the First World War and epitomized by men like Ernst Junger and Ernst Von Salomon. They despised bourgeoisie values. They hated parliamentarianism and abhorred the West. Himmler does eventually come to recruit into the SS the conservative establish moment mostly through the Equestrian Associations and horse riding clubs but that’s not until 1933 onwards by then the Nazis party isn’t some beer hall brawl club. It’s the party of national revival. Hitler was seen as the man responsible for the German miracle and his party came to power. Oddly enough in July of 32 is when the Nazis hit their biggest electoral margins of 37.7 percent there about, that makes them the largest political party in the Reichstag with 200 seats in Nov 33 they lose about 5% of the vote polling at around 32% and its this drop in support that gives the conservative elements what they think is a break. Revolutions are fickle and come and go which is exactly what they were counting on. It’s that drop in support that grants the conservatives what they think is the initiative in making a pact with the revolutionary party and keeping them under control, but Hitler has other plans. Bro the conservative German establishment in 1933 Germany wasn’t even National Socialist. How the hell do you get American conservatism into National Socialism? You are fukkking 4@66et and you don’t know dikkk about National Socialism. You confusing conservative political with revolutionary politics and they couldn’t be any more opposite. Yes the Nazis did hate and reject futurism, Dadaism, Cubism and nurtured nostalgia about an imagined “Golden era” of Germany. I guess that makes them conservatives 😂. They also followed people like Guido Von List and Helena Blavatsky and Jorg Lanz. The Nazis absolutely despised Christianity. Are you seriously gunna act like the Nazis were some form of Christian radicalism run amuck? Unbelievable the funny thing is you’re comment will get loads of likes 😂
I will say I don't think teaching children survival skills such as how to use a map, how to handle a firearm safely, even a bit of war games type stuff is wierd. I loved games like that with airsoft/paintball guns. Grouos like the boy scouts do that stuff pretty often. It's how it was done and the blind loyalty to the government that's an issue. Totally agree on everything else
I wish Simon's channels didn't have music. The audio isn't ever correct when there's music. His voice isn't as loud as it should be or the music isn't as soft as it should be. He doesn't need any music over what he's saying. His scripts (from his scriptwriters) are always well done. The video editting is really good. And Simon is an excellent narrator. The music seriously takes you out of what he's saying because someone like me (who's hearing impaired) has a really hard time hearing his voice over the music because it's NOT balanced right. Music is meant to be subtle not overbearing. Please...turn it down or don't put it in at all. You only need it while he's NOT talking the rest of the time he's talking so you don't need music. Please.
I agree. The music is a distraction if the objective is to communicate. So much of the music is played so loud one gets the impression the music is supposed to take priority and the show is suppose to be about the music. In other words the tail is wagging the dog.
The Nazi's released games that included theme of attacking other countries? Terrible. We'd never do that now. I mean.... besides Wolfenstein, Call of Duty, Metal of Honor... hell, technically even Fallout.... Well, perhaps themes of war permeate our games, but not our literature right? ... Right?!? Wait, who is Tom Clancy again? He's probably the only one... probably.
Exactly. All these comparisons to conservatives being Nazis while some left Coast elitist cultural revolution is trying to indoctrinate young people with their BS Unbelievable
Some. One family of three kids, reportedly, two remembered and returned but the third refused and 'stayed' as German. Their parents, I think, had been killed by Nazis.
On the upside, the endless marches and singing and bands were so imposed on the children they had no energy left to be learning in school. Even those getting to university were so behind they needed a lot of remedial lessons and left without having learned anything like enough. Not really what a regime wants when it's trying to develop things like the atomic bomb.
Yet another comment comparing revolutionary German politics to American conservative politics 😂. Not sure what Pan German Nationalism has to do with conservative Americans and Christianity? The Nazis despised it. They even spread the age old antisemitism trope that Christianity is actually Judaism for non Jews. Hitler would’ve sided with Palestine POS 😂. That’s all I’m saying even when the left openly takes anti Jewish stances they still label their opposition as “Nazis” Pathetic