Especially vegans?? Humans are by far causing most of the animal suffering,hunting, trapping, culling, just killing and being mean, experiments and research, destroying their homes and habitat often to feed domestic animals of which humans kill over 70 billion per year just of domestic farm animals and then all the rest like fish its gets into the trillions every year. Nature was likely fairly kind before we took center stage. We are in the 6th mass extinction now due to our actions. Oh yeah then all the fun...like bull fighting, rodeos, circuses, and all that kind of disgusting inhumane entertainment.
@@onyxescence yeah i think you missed my point. at least vegans recognize the suffering caused in factory farms but they ignore what happens naturally. still better than the average flesh eater, but there is nothing nice about nature either. really the whole game is stupid and we should stop breeding and gracefully go extinct
@@extinctionistrecordsblackm6380 There is lots nice about nature. Free-living animals can enjoy their lives. Saying that wildlife live miserable lives is the sort of claim that humans who hunt and fish make in order to try to justify torturing/killing them.
If you're referring to the tendency for countries tend to consume more meat as they grow richer, you can see some related links here: concepts.effectivealtruism.org/concepts/the-meat-eater-problem/ I'd guess that there's a lot of research out there exploring what this correlation looks like for various countries, but I don't have any links to share on that front.
I’m more concerned about saving animals’ lives. Why not? Human overpopulation negatively impacts all species - domestic and wild. When human populations come into conflict with wildlife, it’s the wildlife who is “culled” to death. Unchecked human overpopulation increases the demand for animal products, which results in more “livestock” animals being “produced” and killed to consumption. The Pope continually rattles of with his “sacredness of each and every human life” (soon to reach 8 BILLION) speeches, sending the signal (in the words of John Aspinall) as follows: "That shop-worn cliché ‘THE SANCTITY OF HUMAN LIFE’ sums it up in a phrase. This concept is probably the most damaging, and well-rooted sophistry ever propagated, because examination of its implicit corollary clearly means 'the de-sanctification of ALL LIFE OTHER THAN HUMAN.'" -- JOHN ASPINALL, "The Best of Friends" (1976)
