Third Side of the Cold War DOCUMENTARY 

Finally I found this topic in you tube

There are armament expos?

@@Game_Hero Yes there are.

Non aligned with what?

To stay non alingned you need lots of gun to make sure no one can force you to become alligned

yeah, strangely enough, Russia was there in an observer position

Some call it 'repurposed'. Some call it 'misappropriated'. Either way the term holds little merit in economics today, if classification is the goal, and not just general talk.

Switzerland, Austria, Sweden and Finland were actually refered to as neutral countries, which is different from being a non-aligned country.

@@invidusspectator3920 The reason being that they were very much at the center stage of the Cold War and also lead no active efforts to create a third alternative to the big blocs.

yep some people misinterpretated "third world countries" as some under-developed countries even until today.

@@perjakacinema I mean when the countries just so happen to have specific characteristics. Is hard to not misinterpret it

@@jtgd no I stopped watching History Channel waaay before 2005, switched to the then Military Channel but soon cut the cable cord and discovered RU-vid channels.

@@garyfrombrooklyn like 10 years ago I got super into the Military History channel which was basically a 90s video dump of the History archive. I haven't seen it for a long time

@@greenkoopa yeah, they revamped it I think. Good analogy though, 90s video dump 😆

Hard to learn this stuff in Ice Road Truckers 🤣. Honestly don't know why they didn't try to cover it, like AHC.

How the History Channel explains the Cold War: It's Aliens 👽

Lmao, USA is selfish. And let's not forget despite being one of the founders, Indonesia was quite... Let's say, 'romantic' with Soviet Union. USSR didn't seem to have much problem with NAM, well not as much as USA, USSR was interested in friendship, tho. Indonesia offered nearly no help in this friendship but the possibility of befriending a large neutral country that has the ability to grow exponentially in later years make USSR quite affectionate. Indonesia even have its own communist party as a sign of sisterhood. Ofc, later on, the communist party revolted, killed many national heroes savagely, tried to shake one of the five pillars of Indonesia, and the nation was purged in a civil war that has Sukarno, the first president who hate imperialist UK and USA, fell from his position and got replaced by Suharto who cut off our friendship with USSR and started leaning more to USA. There's a reason on why many Indonesians still believe CIA from USA has a hand in Sukarno's fall and Indonesia's New Order (Dictatorship), everything after Sukarno's fall gave fortune to USA. The thing that Sukarno would never consider giving USSR was given to USA easily. A bunch of cunning leech. I hate communism just like every other Indonesian, but most of us don't actually believe USSR is the reason of the revolt. USSR was reluctant to dip their hands on Indonesia's politics back then, since Sukarno was already pretty clear in his neutrality and strict conduct.

@@arthurmorganSUN you're right, but also the nonsense killing of leftist by the new order is unnecessarily brutal.

they even overtrown soekarno and replace him with a dictactors that more close to the west

@@dorian4646 even tho the Doctors who did the autopsy were saying they just got shot and none as brutal as Soeharto's Journal during the search and rescue op. PKI does did nasty stuff but Soeharto also did his part in more worse manner too

@@estehtix true that

if only they were applied

@@Game_Hero Exactly :-(

@@Game_Hero well nothing can be done overnight.ALos poeple forget that even if THSOE WERE APPLIED later down the line there would be some coup or some external factor that wouldve caused problems and stir the pot bcs at the time it would benefit oustide powers.Togoslavia was PURPOSLY DESOLVED it wasnt just a oh civil war out of nowhere.MANY OUTSIDE POWERS ESPECIALY GERMANY wanted to so to say stick it back/payback to Yugoslavia precicely Serbia for WW1/WW2.Then it used the commotions to stir the pot.Geramny used its puppet wich stayed loyal even after WW1/2 to do ist bidding and via Croatia to extend its geopolitical/influence presence in the Balkans.Then we had Italy who was also eager to regain not only its geopolitical/influential foothold throu Albania but also thru Croatia bcs it wated those costal territories and a civil war/breakup would give them a chace to do so nad maybe even if Germany alowed get some of those costals.Then we had Brits who wanted yet again to re-establish its own geopolitical/influenc efoothold in the Balkas (it owudl be hard but duoable).Then we have Turkey wich also so to say had a vendeta same as Germany,Austria,Hungary but it didnt so to say directly atrget otehr federation but soly focused on Bosnian federation thru it wanted its piece of the pie.Then finaly we gand USA who at beggining didnt so to say payt much o attention (it did sell arms and probably intel) but it wasnt heavly involved into geopolitical game in Yugoslavia BUT after it saw that tehre is actual great possibility to gaing a solid foothold i Balkans/Yugoslavia nad alos basicaly destroy the economical rival to Europe/NATO wich was Allie to USA then they started with their HEAVY involment mostly in Bosnian federation and Serbian autonomous province of Kosovo. So even if countrie sstarted TO DO WORD FOR WORD form that list TEHRE WILL ALWAYS BE AN OUSTIDE POWER THAT WOUDL DISRUPT THAT OR FORCE THE COUNTRY TO NOT FOLLOW THE LIST/DONT PLAY BY TEH BOOK SIMPLY BCS IT CANT.

Well China is just hitting the axe intended for US India relation into it's own leg. By thinking it is 1962 and India can't do shit. except It gave some to China in Galwan clashes with 45+ PLA soldiers dead. their little emperor ambitions of conquest to other's land and for world conquest will be their demise.

I have to say a word for Afghanistan. Before 1973, Afghanistan received only about $1.2 billion in aid. (source: Taliban) however, Vietnam received more than $10 billion in aid from the Soviet Union. India and Yugoslavia have received a lot of assistance because of their geographical advantages, but in fact, the benefits of non aligned countries are no more than those of other countries

@@可爱包-c4v You could not be more wrong about Aganistan. Not only it was receiving astronomical help from IMF/etc, USSR was building a lot of houses (still the best housing in Kabul), schools, hospitalies, colleges, sending professors, trades, providing all kinds of education in USSR, etc. Vietnam, destroyed by war, was in a completely different situation.

@M Zrull:Afghanistan changed in 1973，1978 and 1979. After 1973, Afghanistan was ruled by Pro Soviet people. So , I can only refer to Afghanistan's assistance before 1973. According to 《Soviet aid to the third world.an analysis of its strategy》, Afghanistan received US $541 million, in 1955-1964 and 128.3 million in 1965-1979, but 742 million in 1979 and 426 million in 1975. There was not too much Soviet aid before 1973. In addition, the Soviet Union also provided $10 billion in aid to Mongolia and North Korea. Later, Russia cancelled their debts. So I don't think Afghanistan has received more funds because of the non aligned movement.

The above data are all Soviet aid received by Afghanistan.Excluding other countries

@@可爱包-c4v none of that has any correlation to reality.

🤣🤣 it was multi-alliance and which india follows today as well

@@syaondri Bandung is cool but its so hard to go everywhere with car lol

It has one of the best public toilet too. Never have i seen a public toilet that fresh and unhaunted as that building in Bandung

But the traffic is AWFUL here. Especially in weekends. I went there once and it was pretty cool though

Benerr, Om

@@yezki8 Unhaunted? Ghosts use toilets??

At least America’s leaders were competent enough to feign intelligence back then now nobody is under the illusion that they have something special up their sleeve when their contemporary leaders are so abysmal

Ironic considering he took power with the help of the American Government lmao

@@sirsurnamethefirstofhisnam7986 no American leader since theodor roosevelt was intellegent

@@sbevexlr848 Not LBJ?

@@leonodonoghueburke4276 not LBJ

Lumayan lah 😂

"We'll build our *own* block, with blackjack and hookers!"

*Imagine aligning towards NATO/Warsaw pact *THIS COMMENT MADE BY NON ALIGNMENT BLOCK*

@@alahsiaboi8909 *sigma rule grindset song intensifies*

Switzerland for last 500 years

Very worse again Europe like UK, France and the rest of West Europe (except Germany for a logical reason maybe).

Because both are dumb lol. SO EXTREME. The best system is mixed system. Or at least socialism. Capitalism n Liberalism is bad. So is Communism(both government style n economic system). And Indonesia's system is actually mixed.(supposed to be mix of them but now under Jokowi presidency, their economic is into capitalism and their government into the dictatorship) And islam itself work on mixed stuff.

@@DBT1007 Dude i'm not even sure what to call it anymore

@@DBT1007 Socialism is worse than Capitalism any fucking day.

@@DBT1007 i live in a post socialism country (Czech republic) Socialism harmed us so badly we haven't recovered to our first republic era yet. What you want to say is that Social Democracy is a good mix of both, in which I agree. But full on socialism or laissez-faire capitalism are both really bad for their own reasons

Biju Patnaik (an odia) was also Chief minister of odisha and his son biju Patnaik (founder and head of BJD party) won election in odisha(2001) and became its CM (even upto now)

Thank you for helping us, it's means A lot for our nation to stay exist during hard times.

@@bagusi.nugraha997 mantap bro

Correct 👍 and Soekarno's famous statement was "That colonialism in the world must be abolished because it is not in accordance with humanity and justice" and that is what supports the Asian and African nations to establish the Asia-Africa conference

Well, I have the picture of this event somewhere in my facebook group. It's quite memorable since there's many confusion about who's the Indian guy is, even some thought he was Turkish/Arab 😅

The movement helped many african countries gain their independece, particulary in North Africa. It's no wonder the most resistancr came from western "democratic" countries, not the soviet.

Sadly if major countries of the movement werent recovering from destruction of post WW2 and deonolizations wich robbed them much of needed resorces.The movement itself wouldve been 100x times more effective bcs then for Example Yugoslavia nd India wouldnt need to spend huge amount of money to recover their own country first but woudl be ablte to put more money into expansion and development of the movement alongside boost alot of otehr counteirs that woudl like to trade and cooperate and boost the cosntructioon of ports and important infrastructures that are tied to trading and that way directly and indirectly boost otehr branches of production.

we (Yugoslavia) needed visa for only 6, later 5 countries.. life was good.. really really good .. good form of socialism

Tell that Iraq , Lebanon and others that USA made them hell in the 50s and 60s

@@goranstojanov1160 Just for the record, people often forget that the reason why the USA outperforms a relatively similar sized Europe is not some kind of mythical economical superiority but rather the simple fact that US-Americans work _a lot more_ on average ( givin rise to the infamous Europeans work to live, Americans live to work sentiment ) and also that nearly all of Europe went through some of the worst destruction of its entire history, followed by decades of fairly hostile occupation under an pretty unefficient regime pretty much less than a century ago.

The problem was during confrontation happen. If Malaysia won't break the treaty will be stable but yea since the U.K won't give the independence (even they decolonize hut still have the U.K connect) so that makes Soekarno was angry also the Philippines also many generals have been not loyal for reasonable like yea they have been paid or something exchange for intelligence so not a big surprise for bloody hell U.S.A, the U.K has a role if they have to purge against commie but with awful and not bring the court of rights.

Good thing sukarno was toppled. You could be arrested only for playing beatles songs....lol.

@@MultiDivebomber Nah it was because of what the U.S.A have done to do with Indonesia by coup Permesta. If you say good things that would be awful because human rights in New Order just yea that means you oppose and they will be executed you.

@@PitunghereTNOschizo100 If suharto didn't take the initiative, TNI-AD will be led by red generals. With PKI having so much power and full backing from the army, just imagine what will happen when Sukarno passes away.

@@MultiDivebomber Not really, remembers what Aidit and Kahar were worried but also they made a fatal mistake why? because they just do that in secret not public. But since every figure out of Aidit and the rest of PKI is out of Java doesn't know for this so they are getting blunder as a result after the '30s happened all private who involved getting worse like tortured until they admit they are PKI meanwhile they are not, execute people without trial and reasonable and worse Nasution who actually thrown Soekarno and change Soeharto he get down and expelled from his ranks, also their policy was good but no longer because corrupt (KKN) was growth and fist of the military was used even they actually use Dwifungsi (2 functional of the army as politics) but that's made more worse because they are yea just betray for themselves. Irony was it ?

Technically, it was. These countries all shared the sentiment that they wanted to coexist and further their interests without committing to either the west or the east. They may not have shared an army or comparable institutions to either the NATO or the Warsaw Pact but ultimately, when looking at the grand scheme of things, the "bloc" was politically active ( contrasted by a completely neutral place like Switzerland ) and also interested in strengthening its own position although not to defeat the other blocs. In conclusion, while it is not a third power in the sense of the Warsaw pact , it’s level of organization and political activism leaves little room for the idea that it was not a bloc in its own right, distinct yet comparable to the more (in?)famous alliances.

@@Arcaryon winner winner chicken dinner 🥘

Mine too, but sadly at the time this happened, my family was stayed in nearby Sumedang bc the chaos of Islamist revolution years prior and returned to Bandung around 70's

@@RandomGuy-uj4hn u are definitely not from Indonesia...shut up

@@RandomGuy-uj4hn whats islamist revolution? You mean DI/TII?

@@kingclement5821 ngomong naon sih koplok? Sotoy bat dah.

Yugoslavia is the Pearl of socialism. China once opposed Yugoslavia's policy, but later had to admit that Yugoslavia is the best socialist country. During China's economic reform, Deng Xiaoping sent people to investigate. Those who came back said that Yugoslavia's economy was very good. They introduced many excellent technologies, produced the best products, and sold goods to the world. However, the foreign exchange control is weaker, and the US dollar and West German mark can be used. If the external economic environment deteriorates, it will certainly lead to the accelerated deterioration of the domestic economy. Therefore, China has a very strict monetary policy.

@@可爱包-c4v Yugoslavia was the only socialist country not failing because of socialism but because of tension between nations or better their leaders after Tito died. Yugoslavia was also much more danegerous to the US than Soviet union. Im not kidding, because there was not a lot US workers (US voters) who would live in soviet style of the country however if they knew the yugoslavia style socialism a lot of them would choose it.

@@altergreenhorn I'm a fan of Yugoslavia...but the US didn't fear Yugoslavia at all. They sent them a huge amount of military and financial aid. Yugoslavia feared the USSR along with Bulgaria would invade after the split with Tito...hence why the SFRJ had to pivot to the West. That's why you'll see old American arms and equipment during the civil wars.

@@MTLB85 they wanted to be neutral like austria to the north

@@MTLB85 actually America was afraid of Yugoslavia, thats one of the reasons they were heavily involved in its break up. America sent money and arms so Yugoslavia wouldnt fall totally to the side of USSR, they basically kept Yugo as a buffer zone with USSR. After USSR broke up, there was no need for a successfull socialist nation like Yugoslavia to be in between, thus making it more of an enemy than an ally. And for proof that America was involved in the break up of Yugoslavia, first they imposed sanctions on all products, basically cutting all ties and money flow. Then the US goverment passed an appropriation act in 1991. that states that if any of the Yugoslav republics want military and financial aid they will have to become independent.

Soekarno👍🏻

well geopoliticaly he was a genous BUT internaly HE WAS HORRIBLE cb he instilled the for brotherly union slogan,forbade churches,imrpisoned priests,LITERALY hushed down and let ustashi to destroy wast amount of evidences about Jasenovac concetration cam and many otehr things.Then any intelectual or group ofpeople that went against Brotehrly union slogan was imrpisoned,tourcured and executed by fire sqads.Then when serbian intelectuals and peopel were against hushing/putting Ustashi attrocities agaings Serbs,Jews,Roma to be put under the rug nad erasing it form the memmory many were imprisone or executed for bringing anything about that up.He was RUTHGLES especialy to those that werent on his side of ideology.

And Ataturk

@@goranstojanov1160 People always do what is expedient than what is right. I can't say that the aforementioned figures were good people. Many blunders, controversies, and even massacres they may have to be hold accountability for. But I must admit, against all odds, they carried out their perspective young emerging countries and lead through the diffulties so they could survive from the total annihilation by nuclear wielding titans.

@@mrhaci7747 who?

Ironic that we basically almost relive it now with China vs the world now.

@@peacechan4500 yep in this era now economics war to get more influence for both side, because economics always have feedback from long-term profit. Just look at china now always focus for economics exchange of course don't forget debt, rather than West block use traditional method make pact for war look at a cold war 2.0, for that you have free market for Inteligent service, & weapon armament. Don't forget last thing if they give bonus a bloody civil war ! Just look at middle east crumble because of oil I am say this from my perspective because when china invest in my country meanwhile my neighbor Australian make pact for nuclear submarine, and finally I can watch fire works closely

@@peacechan4500 not china vs world but china vs west.

With that kind of mindset It's no wonder Johnson plunged America into Vietnam War. People, especially from poorer countries just want a peace so they can build their country, educate their people away from influence and bullying of big rich imperialist countries.

That Johnson guy really sped the US total involvement in that Vietnam civil war, because of that decision Millions of Vietnamese ppl and 55,000 American service men lost their lives.

My man forgot to wear one

I agree I studied the Cold War here in Britain as part of my history/politics degree in the 90s and the main topics were Europe and the east/west divide there. Good luck to India in its issues with China although I’m sure India can deal with China 👍 A Brit

INDIA AND BRITAIN WILL COOPERATE RO COUNTER CHINA AND INDIAN

@@nigeh5326 Lmao good luck with that *India is literally surrounded by Chinese influence while at the same time America aka the backstabber also doesn’t truly trust India and has disliked them since the 1970s* It also doesn’t help that China has lobbying in the UN and the U.S which makes whatever India says completely useless. India managed to get all of it’s neighbors against it in some form idek how 1: Pakistan as usual is it’s main enemy 2: China as usual is also a main enemy 3: Sri Lanka has Chinese debt and a bad past with India 4: Nepal wants no dam Indian or Chinese influence 5 : Bhutan doesn’t care 6: They recently losing their influence over Bangladesh 7: Myanmar works with China which makes it an Indian enemy 8: Afghanistan was lost to the Taliban which the Pakistanis support See how fucked India is in it’s own neighborhood ? They managed to fuck up big time Also they somehow managed to betray Russia for America to go against China , when somehow America was the one to build up this modern day CCP China The more you look at it , India played itself which the silly Indian nationalists can’t admit

Indonesia were nonalliant in-name-only. The ASEAN group were born out to balance against Vietnam. Many of main the countries in the ASEAN (Thailand, Phillipine, Malay, Singapore and Indonesia, etc) had troops stationed in Vietnam fighting on the US side. This is even written on Wikipedia and is still there now.

Halo mbak risa

@@shamancosmo7245 after Soeharto took power in 1966, Indonesia was drifting to the west. ASEAN is one of their efforts to protect Southeast Asia against communism. Invasion of East Timor is also part of this anti-communist strategy.

@@shamancosmo7245 Hey buddy, in reading Indonesian cold war history you gotta separate it into 2 major eras: pre-1965, and post-1965. Indonesia being "pro-west" through ASEAN was definitely the post-1965 side of things, because we had a communist purge in 1965-1967. But prior to that? 1950-1959 you can say we are truly a non-alliant - we had both large nationalist, communist, and islamist parties. 1959-1965 we started leaning towards the communists, but not the USSR side, actually more to the Chinese/Mao's side (was at the same time there was the USSR-China split as well) But then the 1965 purges happened soooo we did a 180 on the whole "lean left" project. And again, what I'm saying here, is a very simplified version. Go read more stuff to get a clearer picture

@@shamancosmo7245 Wikipedia,what a trustworthy source🤣👍

Correct by Austrian ottomans and Italians not to mention Germans

@@guyincognito7979 don't forget the worst thing ever done to the Yugoslavs was done by the Yugoslavs themselves. to n extent that even their former masters (Ottomans with Albanians, Germans with Croats) openly disapproved of.

Came here to say this. Does the hundreds and hundreds of years under the Ottomans and Hapsburgs count as colonialism? The consequences of massive empires trampling the region are felt to this day, which is the very definition of postcolonialism.

@@zarkolakovic8958 yes it does count

Not really, sometimes they have a relationship just for defense or the economy, it's always has been even Tito has a connection with other Europe even western.

"alligned" but not neccesarily member of PACT nor Soviet ally, same as Indonesia post soekarno where they "alligned" with US but not a member of NATO nor US Ally, the goal of NAM isnt restricting them from doing business or making treaty to any super power that exist at the time

Non-aligned doesn't mean neutral for example Yugoslavia actively supported Palestine against Israel and Algerian independence against France and Cuba was also member of the non-aligned movement well I don't have to explain that

USSR always wanted to control NAM. It tried it thru Cuba but eventually did not succeed.

Well that was After the Demise of Pandit Nehru

Nehru was most stupid PM of India, becouse of him india lost 1962 and UN permanent seat.

a lot of them were leaning towards one side or the other but still part of the NAM, one example would be cuba, part of the NAM even during the cuba missile crises (idk if it left afterwards or still remain part of it)

I would say that the countries managed to stay out of direct confrontations and were able to measurably keep their foreign policy intact. That doesn't mean it was a success, but that the primary goal of staying as far away as possible from the two blocs was achieved. Even India tilted towards the Soviets and had a 'Treaty of Friendship' with the USSR in 1970. But it was not a member of the Warsaw pact or anything remotely similar. I think that summarises the NAM as a whole.

I my understanding, negligible is OK. It is a movement not organization. It is negligible on affecting the Cold war. Not escalating it even further, by adding the 3rd party into the play. The effect is for those who don't want the Cold war. When seen from those who joined the 1st or 2nd world countries, NAM is negligible. Like how it help the independence of Indonesia, who cares? From the perspective of Cold war participants.

as you know most of them is a third world country,so yeah, it looks like a warm safehouse than a middle man

Washington bullets...

Annexation of East Timor is one of the idiot things among many Soeharto ever done.

Okay but Timor Leste already independent, so we can say Indonesia as the founder back to NAM ideology again

@@totoabubakar1008 yes, but we can't ignore the fact that NAM doesn't have any agenda whatsoever for the past decades. US, China, Russia, Iran, Saudi, all have places in geopolitical chess board, but not NAM. Nobody take NAM seriously.

The bunch of misfits with impractical agenda. It was impossible to follow all 10 principles. The important point however is NAM despite not following what they committed to, is still a success and after the 1991, the world has become more and more multiploar, NAM members have their golden age being historically non-aligned and multi-partnered.

They assassinated our🇮🇳 primary nuclear scientist because of that 🤬

Indonesian : As been said by a Priest from Pirates of the Carribean on strangers tide "I'm not with you neither against you"

@@byron-ih2ge that's not confirmed , the guy who came up with that theory had a fake name and was a holocaust denier

@@06.vineethdsouza80 lol no he was a retired cia employ

Well, it means you can obtain benefit from both sides

And soekarno chose to align himself with communist leaders in the end

Poor him, because he forgive commie who coup again goverment in 1948

@@nurfadhilahnugraha2614 well it was the west attempt to replace him

@@M-a-r-c no just west, him make crisis economic and the commie make horizontal conflict

ye, we are not white nor rich this is not even our politic but tension between european and communist european

When you can stay neutral in world wars cold war will be child's play

Your saying it like it's a bad thing.

The problem is U.S Americans were always involved in the coup in order not to fall into Soviet but Nah the last coup Permesta was failed because the general detected Paratrooper, as result, he decided to go left little bit (Except relation with John F. Kennedy) until September '30s make him down and another awful regime was started in general who become chaos later in new order.

"Some submarine that two of them still active till today" incorrect. You probably tought about the whiskey class sub which soekarno got from the Soviets, but those subs has been long retired and there's even one has been converted into a museum in surabaya. The one that still active is Type 209 that Soeharto bought from East germany in 1977. And now only 1 subs left after the tragic loss of KRI Naggala

@@FuyatoB perhaps he even believed that theory of some whiskey submarines were in Brunei 😄

Even Indians did the same thy keep relation with USSR, bought Weapons and technology like Space tech and Aircraft carrier.

"some submarine that two of them still active today" mulut siapa itu asbun sekali!

India still remained neutral with a USSR tilt nothing else

@@byron-ih2ge neutrality kind of ended after the Indo-Soviet treaty of 1971. India's largest trading partner was the USSR. India's voting records at the UN and several other foreign policy decisions reflected a de-facto alliance. Most of the Indians born in the 50s, 60s and 70s still have some remnants of the anti-American sentiment.

​@@rjrastapopoulos1595 India became a close ally of Soviet Union as a result of the American support for Pakistan and reapproachment with China in 1971

​@@rjrastapopoulos1595cause and effect USA pumped billions of dollars in Pakistan after 47', armed Pakistan to teeth and shunned india when india wanted weapons from USA.

well Nixon threatened to nuke Calcutta so India had to side with USSR to protect itself

Lol only americans believe that. In fact the only superpower who got angry over this NBM was the USA. they started funding rebellions in NBM countries, particulary in Indonesia.

@@harukrentz435 You know China and Yugoslavia were shunned from the Communist Bloc for not taking direction from Moscow? Not taking directions from Stalin is literally the reason why Yugoslavia was a founding member of the Non-Alignment Movement.

Darth Sam: If you are not with me, you are a dirty communist.

@C D：Yes, during the cold war, the Soviet Union beat up many socialist countries, which led to a state of terror in Somalia and Afghanistan. Americans at least don't beat their dogs.( ‘-ωก̀ )

NBM helped many countries regain their independence. Calling it "pointless" just show how ignorant some westerners are.

Nothnig to do with the nato.

@@altergreenhorn entire armies of the so called moujahidins back in 1992... fully equipped, landed in the port of split and crossed the borders to Yugoslavia.

@@altergreenhorn it's always have to do with NATO.

Well either that, or indonesia literally Will be Mao Bastion. Pick and choose really. Communist literally run rampant with Soekarno era, and imagine when Soekarno pass away or no longer be president, it's a very very high chance Indonesian becomes a China vassal state now. And that's will definitely be Vietnam 2.0 electric bogaloo. As wtf as it be, Soeharto is somehow the best case scenario in Indonesia at that time. The other being open occupancy by US

Pakistan was a former member of SEATO. India is a member of NAM. US was good buddies with Pakistan till cold war ended. then they decided to trust pak govt for war against taliban. and got the result soon in 2021.

Well Pakistan wasn't a part of NAM until 1990s

only Yugoslavia was a true Neutral power. until it went error .404. rest were all Soviet lackeys who became Pro west one by one, or more importantly , kind of sidelined socialist policies to pick some free market policies.

Its because there is any coup by cia or kgb in many of that country

he wanted to control every political groups that distrusted each other.

Soekarno ruled with an iron fist almost like tito to maintain the indonesian state. Also he wanted to work with the japanese in WW2. Weird to see that a lot of these non-aligned nations were 'evil'.

Not sure to be evil because even he cooperate with Japan because propaganda if Japan is old Brothers Indonesia, always has been if you do not see why he corporate, also Soekarno actually can tolerate but nah since U.S.A get involved at the coup in Permesta also others so he has done with the U.S.A and turns a little bit to left but since the generals also have a conflict because many not loyal to him so many they have suspect about '30s coup in September and as result, he gets down and changes another dictator and tyrants

and remember one point why he corporate Japan because he still has trust with them about promise independence, even no longer after nuking Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but the young faction decides to kidnap him and ask to declare independence immediately and Soekarno refused and say if you want to kill me just kill me but they are too scared to fo that because he is a pioneer for the independence. And the negotiation between Ahmad Soebarjo and the kidnap change and make sure they declared as soon as possible on the date is promised 17th August 1945.

You can be independent if you're willing to put up with being isolated, backward and inconsequential.

Both Indonesia and india are top 10 countries by GDP respectively Yugoslavia is destroyed by nato Egypt was failed state because of constant wars with Israel and Ghana is progressing except for 2 countries non aligned movement pretty much sucessfull

Yes, I agree. Many of the conflicts were proxy wars on behalf of the two blocks.

A yugoslavian I see

@@bread9815 not really but Tito is easily one of the most accomplished leader in 20th century for a non superpower nation