Thirty-Six Team NBA Expansion Concept | Charlie ND 

I agree with 85% of what you propose except: I would omit Vancouver (does not ring basketball city me) and add San Diego to the Pacific Division I would move LA to St.Louis to promote an intrastate rivalry between Kansas City and St Louis. San Diego will have an expansion team to replace the Pacific Division void created by LA Cipper move to St Louis Oklahoma city would move to the Northwest Division to fill vacancy left by Vancouver Southwest, Northwest and Pacific Divisions should now have 6 team balance with new team suggestions

@@victorwashington7306 I guess that works. San Diego is also a very good potential city and I would have included it if I was suggesting ten new teams instead of six.

@Nico And California has 4 teams already and Phoenix isn't that far away which makes another nearby team.

Perfect, great job!

What about Buffalo New York

That's very true. I didn't consider that until after uploading the video. But on the bright side, Oklahoma City could take Memphis' spot in their division and form rivalries with the Texas teams, especially the Mavericks.

Agreed

Minnesota may be moving to Seattle in a couple of years with A-Rod buying the team...

@@IceManLikeGervin - BS! New Orleans is the vulnerable one!

@@CharlieND - Or you can put Memphis in the Northwest/Midwest instead.

Possibly Philly, Boston and New York too

Remember, you can always steal New Orleans if all else fails. Pittsburgh Condors 2.0 wearing black and gold. Nice.

Pittsburgh would be dope

The Battle of Pennsylvania, NBA edition.

Pittsburgh would be a bump and grind team in the east

St. Louis San Diego Pittsburgh Louisville

St. Louis? San Diego? Louisville?

@@369Alien - Better idea, why don't you take the Glad-Umbrella-Nacho in your drawer, put it in your Matty-Octopath-Under-Teletoon-Henry, and pull the trigger, you Flower-Urkel-Clash-Kay-Inside-Nash-Gallop waste of Salad-Pizza-Egg-Radish-Mushroom!!!

Sub Pittsburgh 4 Louisville

@@dreamcage1801 i'm biased because, look at my pfp, but louisville is right behind vancouver here

GO BUCKS GO!!!!!

Actually I think the Kings should stay in Sacramento. Northern California is a good market for basketball. What makes you think Calgary and Edmonton are good markets for an NBA team?

I think the Kings should move back to Cincinnati and be renamed the Royals in the NBA where they would face the interstate rivals Cleveland Cavaliers in the battle of Ohio and their furture cross state rivals the Detroit Pistons in the Central Division of the NBA’s Eastern Conference.

I the Thunder should relocate to Kansas City, Missouri where they would be known as the Kansas City Thunder aka (KC Thunder)

Despite the Kings sucking for almost 20 years ( I think 2006 was the last time they made the playoffs) Sac fans still support the team. They just built a new arena a few years ago. Sacramento is a bigger market than KC.

For sure!

I agree

Minnesota is most likely relocating to Seattle with Arod

@RH no it'd not especially because Seattle is heavily targeted for an expansion team

@@docapathy6706 Arod has a plan to move them there due to him playing with the Mariners. That's why he bought them. Makes sense because they would still be in the NW division.

Perhaps your country should start their own basketball league.

@@psychopathyoutubeemployees280 They already do. Besides, they'd be no sport called basketball without Canada (basketball's inventor, James Naismith was Canadian) so they deserve more than 3 NBA teams. I'd be totally fine if Canada eventually had 6 NBA teams.

As someone who’s from Vancouver, I’d completely disagree. The interest was always there, it had more to do with the fact we had unstable ownership and a low dollar.

@@georgecoumbos2511 I would respectfully disagree. Canada as you may know is literally dominated by hockey. There is no interest in basketball unless the tickets would be cheap, which wouldn't be good for an NBA team. Do you see Edmonton having an NBA team? What about Saskatoon? If we are talking about coasts, it would ideally be Vancouver Geographically its similar to LA, lifestyle is similar to LA, demographics on all front such as income, interests, and overall psychographics are similar to LA/Cali/West Coast lifestyle. I agree the dollar is a problem and will always be a problem, which is why if there had to be 1 Canadian NBA it would be Toronto, the hub of Canadian sports and sports media, having the whole nation back 1 city is the safest way to ensure revenue. At this point we are past that but in a hypothetical risk scenario, Vancouver in my eyes would make the most sense.

@@seenaheidary4395 sorry my friend, but a couple of things I can’t quite agree with you On. First off basketball has been this high in this town. The first season we had the team it was electric and even going into our fourth, fifth and sixth seasons it was the only sports team that gave us any form of excitement and the Canucks are going through rebuild after the 94 playoffs, to this day you still see merchandise everywhere and people repping the team all over the city. I understand Toronto is the Mecca city of Canada and it is the central hub of our country much like how New York and Los Angeles is for the United States. However it doesn’t mean that a country of 38 million people can only sustain ourselves with one professional sports league team in basketball and baseball. We are known as a hockey hotbed in this country however it’s not the only thing that attracts sports friends from this country. That’s like saying Texas should only have football teams because that’s what they really love.

Yeah, for sure.

@@CharlieND Along with the rebirth of Seattle SuperSonics, imagine the Cincinnati Barons, the St. Louis Spirit, and the Las Vegas Ramblers. Sorry Louisville, not this time!

@@CharlieNDwhat about San Diego since they’re getting a fresh new arena for the first time in centuries

You already have 2 teams in NYC with the Knicks and Nets, a third is a bit too much. And then you would lose the Globetrotters as being their traveling showmanship thing. They would just be a generic NBA team that wasn't doing all of the trick shots and crazy passes that you associate the Globetrotters with.

Horrible idea. NYC doesn't need 3 teams. The oversaturation would take revenue from the other 2 teams and they wouldn't approve that, or alternatively the third team would be a financial failure.

I think Louisville would be a good substitute for Pittsburgh

i think you underestimate pittsburgh's level of support for its teams, even the pirates have support and they havent been competitive in decades

No one remember its who?

Fuck Montreal

No point for tampa to have a team since tampa and Orlando are only 1 hour from each other

@@nick-yr7wu Still different cities and rather have more teams in Florida to make a rivalry there

@@splashnskillz37 people dont really hoop in Tampa, its more of a football city. Im right between Orlando and tampa lol

@@nick-yr7wu no matter, you can create a culture there, It's a much more desirable place to play than f*cking Montreal

I definitely agree that Nashville has potential to get more sports teams, that's why I mentioned Nashville in my MLB expansion video.

I don't see it. Not a hoops town at all.

@@thenaturalmidsouth9536 then explain the popularity of Vanderbilt's, Belmont's, and David Lipscomb's teams?

@@michellebrown7714 vanity stinks and doesn't draw squat. The others are small mid majors. It's not an NBA type city.

That lottery system sounds cool. Reminds me of promotion/relegation in soccer. If I were to have gone with a 40-team league I probably would have gone with San Diego over San Jose, only because San Diego is bigger and has had an NBA team before. Although I definitely wouldn't be opposed to a second bay area team. Since the clippers plan to move out of crypto.com arena in the next few years, it would be nice to see them go to San Diego or San Jose, but it looks like Inglewood is more likely. I also probably would have included Louisville if I were adding 40 teams.

@@CharlieND Yeah, it’s pretty fun! I’m enjoying it! And yeah, I do think San Diego as a whole makes more sense. I wish the Clippers moved back there!

@@CharlieND oof Lousiville is unlikely as nice as it sounds they’re not going to give up UoK

@@biorgoanylchem I dunno. They could make both co-exist. UK also not in Louisville.

@@slamdunk406 UoK = Univ of Kentucky bruh come on now get in the context 🤦🏽‍♂️🤣

I totally forgot about them until I finished making the video.

if you get one, it will be because the raptors are forced to move there thanks to the covid travel restriction lessons we learned

Seattle would already have a history with them being the SuperSonics most likely. All of the previous Sonics team history wasn't taken with the Thunder to OKC. Similar to the Cleveland Browns and Charlotte Hornets situations.

@@joemckim1183 i thought the only thing Seattle kept was the championship trophy, banners and retired jerseys. Everything else went with to OKC.

@@squidMB I was under the impression that it was similar to the Cleveland Browns going to be the Baltimore Ravens. Where they got to keep the roster of players, coaches and front office staff but otherwise it was essentially an expansion team. I know that the New Orleans Pelicans have the New Orleans Hornets history but the previous Charlotte Hornets is owned history is owned by the new Hornets.

@@joemckim1183 - Don't forget about Earthquakes 2.0 doing the same thing to the Houston Dynamo. Personally, I could see Seattle do something Iike this.

Baltimore

Austin would be great!

Sounds good, amigo.

For sure

@@CharlieND 💯 and same for KC

México City could easily support a team, but the NBA is probably worried about security of its players and personnel down there.

@@marcvslicinivscrassvs7536 Maybe Monterrey?

@@amanwhoknowseverything4800 I think México City has the largest concentration of money (especially corporate money!) and population needed to support a team. I think the problem for any expansion team, however, is a lack of a star player that makes people want to go to the games. Mexico would have to have a mega star on the team

@@marcvslicinivscrassvs7536 There will be a Mexican Star...

Baltimore and Cincy could work too

I’d have to look up what the Kings term is at Golden 1 Center, but highly unlikely they move to Vegas in the next 20 years.

@@bryceleinan considering how low their attendance is, they might not have a choice

I’m also hearing 34 teams including Mexico City

That probably won't happen seeing as how there are five western conference teams east of the thunder.

@@CharlieND The owners have to vote because it will be an advantage Or disadvantage for some teams

Interesting

I totally agree! I think the Norfolk/Virginia Beach area would be a great place for a team.

@@CharlieND They should have a team in some sport. They did try to get an NHL team in the 90's. Maybe if the MLS expands again they could look at them. They gave Austin a team which was the previous largest metro without one.

Obviously it wouldn't be done all at once. Expansions usually happpen over the course of several years and decades.

Basketball in Louisville (Kentucky in general) is loved as much as it is anywhere else. Plus there's nearby Indiana too... just as much of a basketball heaven. I live in southern Indiana, people tend to forget about us when talking NBA expansion to Louisville... we would be making the much shorter trip to Louisville than to Indianapolis...oh and plus Louisville has a bigger and better arena.

Agreed

No, none of these cities like basketball

I’m actually from Pittsburgh and yes we do like baseball just don’t like the 76ers

@@jaroj1112 then explain university of pittsburgh's panther team selling high on a lot of their games

I definitely think so

I'd think it would be interesting, but as it stands, Pittsburgh is already super focused on Hockey and Football for their winter sports selection. However with the current path that the Steelers appear to be taking, Pittsburgh football is likely gonna suck for a while

Giving room for Basketball to potentially take root

So many of those relocations are completely unnecessary. Also, why would you make the league have a prime number of teams?

​@@Barack44 you're right,I would change some things:Western conference, California division:Atherson Clippers (Atherson are the richest city in California, Clippers need to solidify fanbase),San Diego Surf (San Diego only had the Padres in MLB and in 2025 will had an MLS team,they are good fans so deserves It), Los Angeles Lakers,San Francisco Warriors,Oakland Oaks (Oakland losses the a's but replaced putting the b's,will be a great rivalry vs Warriors,also they had a team called Oakland Oaks before), Sacramento Kings. Northwest division: Portland Trail Blazers, Seattle SuperSonics, Vancouver Grizzlies (bring back these teams), Edmonton Cougars,Calgary Ravens, Winnipeg Blacks (bring more Canada because they created basketball). Grand Canyon-Texas division: Phoenix Suns,Las Vegas Venom (NBA had interest in this city),Utah Jazz,Denver Nuggets, Houston Rockets,Dallas Mavericks. Central Division:OKC Thunder, Memphis Spurs (relocation),KC Sheriff, Minnesota TimberWolfes, Chicago Bulls,Milwalkee Bucks (Both relocated from East to the West) Eastern conference,Great Lakes Division:Indiana Pacers, Cleveland Cavaliers,Detroit Pistons, Toronto Raptors,Quebec Artiques,Boston Celtics (QC vs BTN Rivalry). Metropolitan Division:Buffalo Bisons (they will work It and look the past),NY Knics, Brooklyn Nets,Atlantic City Diamonds (Interest rivalry vs Las Vegas), Virginia Beach Bullets (Look the College, Wizards relocated), Louisville Colonels (Pelicans Relocated,bring back). Atlantic Division: Philadelphia 76ers, Raleigh Bobcats, Charlotte Hornets (Look Duke Vs NC),Atlanta Hawks, Orlando Magic,Miami Heat.

Better idea: Pacific - San Francisco, Sacramento, Anaheim, Los Angeles, Portland, Seattle Southwest - Phoenix, Utah, Denver, Oklahoma City, Kansas City, Las Vegas Midwest - Memphis, San Antonio, Houston, Dallas, New Orleans, Mexico City Central - Minnesota, Milwaukee, Chicago, Indiana, Cleveland, Detroit Southeast - Charlotte, Atlanta, Orlando, Miami, Birmingham, Louisville Atlantic - Toronto, Boston, Manhattan, Brooklyn, Philadelphia, Washington

Kentucky is too big of a potential basketball market to not have a team.

Nobody hoops over in Nebraska 😂

People over there ride horses and play with corn

@@nick-yr7wu valid point. Omaha is a nice city tho

@@bigpasty1582 I bet, I've never been to the Mid West states before so I don't really know what its like there

In the Midwest Kansas City and St. Louis makes more sense.

Try stealing a team, and pull a Robert Irsay if you can.

I honestly don't have that strong of a preference between Kansas City and St. Louis.

Not now

Trust me Pittsburgh will never have a team. You will have to drive to Cleveland if you want to see the Celtics.

@@dvferyance They will once the league expands to 42 teams, ... maybe next century

Ottawa and Saskatchewan are nowhere near big enough. Calgary and Edmonton are maybes but there are other cities that deserve a team more that I didn't mention in this video like San Diego, Mexico City, Louisville, Cincinnati and St Louis.

I would totally want to see a San Diego team

Especially during the winter months, it would draw a hole lot of good free agents to the city.

The more the better

I'm totally in favour of Louisville getting a team!

I think Cincinnati would be a better fit for the NBA because they would have a rivalry with their interstate rivals Cleveland Cavaliers, Detroit Pistons, Chicago Bulls and Minnesota Timberwovles in the Central Division of the NBA’s Eastern Conference.

Your feedback is appreciated.

It certainly is. Should have used the OST from the Saturn game Ninku: Tsuyokina Yatsura no Daigekitotsu!

I considered San Diego, but I thought that Seattle and Vancouver would be better choices since there's currently only one team in the pacific northwest and California already has four teams. I think San Diego should get an NHL team or an MLS team though.

@@CharlieND SD was wrongfully cheated by Donald Sterling who illegally moved the Clippers after purposely destroying his fanbase.

@Nico technically the team was sold to people who intended to move the team regardless They never even tried to make it work in SD

Sports just doesn't work in San Deigo. The LA teams are the teams of all of southern California anyways.

@@dvferyance you obviously have no idea what you are talking about

I would have included Louisville if I was adding a few more teams. Tampa I'm not really on board with since the Orlando Magic are already in the area.

Tampa and Louisville are only 84 miles away from each other. You would be splitting the Magic's fanbase in half. Fans that're in the inbetween range of the teams would have to choose one or the other to root for.

@@joemckim1183 What? Louisville is way farther from Tampa than 84 miles. Tampa is close to Orlando who has a team.

@@dvferyance Obviously I was talking about Tampa beeing 84 miles from Orlando. Why would you think when I say 84 miles away I would be talking about Louisville?

@@joemckim1183 - Because it might have something to do with your lack of proofreading skills. "Tampa and Louisville are only 84 miles away from each other." It should say, "Tampa and Orlando are only 84 miles away from each other." Next time, attend Brown!