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Wuthering waves is added in a feature that no other gacha game is doing and i absolutely love it.
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@GachaSmack07
@GachaSmack07 7 месяцев назад
To the people complaining about the rng of this grind i would like to remind you: 1. The alternative to this in other gacha games is to either get off the game or spend more stamina. 2. It is completely optional for you to do as well as F2P friendly. 3. No other gacha game is giving you "shiny pokemon" to farm who also have unique abilities integrated into the combat experience. 4. a chance to farm endgame gear for free outside of stamina is better than no chance at all. Complaining about this is pure stupidity from this perspective.
@spades_111
@spades_111 7 месяцев назад
Whoever is complaining about these points either have a brain damage with no cure or a G white knight, most probably both
@ZonzaAce
@ZonzaAce 7 месяцев назад
On top of what smack said and his video there's less layers to the echo system's rng than something like relics/artifacts For those who don't know think of them more like borderlands weapons or pokemon with IVs. Main stat/Prefix/Nature > get correct subs/attachments/IVs if optimizing - OW + Boss echoes can be obtained without stamina. Meaning you can infinitely hunt for proper main stats on your own time vs as smack mentioned spend 1-2+ weeks dumping DAILY stamina to not get a cdmg chest and slow progression elsewhere. Can only play 2 or 1 day a week? Echoes are far more flexible. - Don't want to grind the open world echoes and good on other mats? Then drop stamina for echo exp + tuning in the proper domain to go for the sets you want like e7, gi, hsr, etc. - Total equip cost: 12 (need to level pokedex) - Always gold at max pokedex level - 20% drop chance at max pokedex (maybe people recommend they do 2x/3x drop events for the OW) - ALWAYS 5 sub slots at gold - level echo and use 1-5 tuning items to unlock its sub stats - only blue and higher have subs (obviously hold off a bit until gold echoes drop though) - Sub stats are STATIC VALUES and therefore DON'T increase as you level the echo only become unlocked meaning as long as you get crit rate it's optimal crit rate no bs trying to rng multi roll into the same stat 4-5 times - 10-15+ echoes in set groups not only make it FAR easier to complete set bonuses you can combine multiple 2 set effects on top of your main 5 set since elites + basic echoes belong to multiple groups. For instance 5pc fire + 2 pc atk active. - shiny "god tier" versions for extra heavy grinders/flexers to extend the grind - it's nothing new but extremely smart for a live service gacha What I've seen so far: Bosses Equip Cost: 4 Set bonus: only +1 Main stats: Flat Atk (locked) + Crit Rate, Crit Dmg, Atk%, Def%, HP%, or Healing% Elites Equip Cost: 3 Set bonus: +1-2 Main stats: Flat Atk (locked) + Ele Dmg, Recharge, atk%, def%, or hp% Basic Equip Cost: 1 Set Bonus: +1-3 Main Stats: 2 of atk%, def%, hp%, or flat hp Sub stats: 5 of atk%, def%, hp%, flat atk, def, hp, CR, Cdmg, recharge, basic dmg, skill dmg, ult dmg The equip system pushes hardcore min maxers to utilize each enemy type for character building not just throw 5 bosses on a character as well. Not saying there aren't things people could think of to further improve the system, but I think it's headed in an overall good direction.
@Justme-jp8ih
@Justme-jp8ih 7 месяцев назад
As someone who plays MMORPG's where you have to grind a lot, I 100% agree. Thats why I always preferred mmorpgs over Gacha games. I hate stamina system. On mmorpgs its up to you if you wanna grind harder to reach your goal faster. But if thats really the case with WW, I really think they get me with this one.
@ShiroAkumaYT
@ShiroAkumaYT 7 месяцев назад
This thin is so cool. Also I love how you can turn into turtle and it goes dancing. I cant wait for this game to release. :) you so lucky to play it now....
@zap7737
@zap7737 7 месяцев назад
Anyone complaining, is retarded and came in, with hating already in mind lol.
@selekvid
@selekvid 7 месяцев назад
For correction, boss echoes don't cost stamina. You don't need stamina at all to collect _any_ echo. It's just for tacet fields, if you don't want to look for them around the map.
@Justme-jp8ih
@Justme-jp8ih 7 месяцев назад
Wait, so you can farm that Boss as much as you want without spending Stamina?
@Justme-jp8ih
@Justme-jp8ih 7 месяцев назад
And what are tacet fields? What does it do
@gintasasd
@gintasasd 7 месяцев назад
​@Justme-jp8ih kill boss yeah but and get its echo but to claim materials like drops for character u need resin
@MaDlGaming
@MaDlGaming 7 месяцев назад
i was about to say yea you can kill the boss if it doesn't drop an echo without spending stamina go do something for like 5mins and go back to grind
@Gacha-Ritual-Master
@Gacha-Ritual-Master 7 месяцев назад
​@@Justme-jp8ihTacet fields are the marks on the floor where the boss spawn, it's like domains in Genshin, just that mobs do drop things and bosses can drop their echo, if you want, you can clean the Tacit Field for I think 40 stamina, like most gachas, but you don't need to for echo farming.
@Peak_Antelope
@Peak_Antelope 7 месяцев назад
5:21 no you can farm the boss echoes as well without spending stamina. The only thing that requires stamina in tacet fields are levelling resources and other mics items but that's entirely optional to get. Bosses are free to be farmed.
@degenxayah
@degenxayah 4 месяца назад
is this still true? i have been looking forward to stamina-less farming for a long while
@Peak_Antelope
@Peak_Antelope 4 месяца назад
@@degenxayah in Genshin terms, you can farm infinte artifacts but you need resin to farm for mats to upgrade said artifacts.
@SaucyRamenBoy
@SaucyRamenBoy 7 месяцев назад
2:10 "the echo system is essentially your relic system in hsr or your artifact system in honkai star rail" Nice one smack
@mymyboy827
@mymyboy827 7 месяцев назад
Lol
@jaseneffendy17
@jaseneffendy17 7 месяцев назад
Gramps really needs his meds sad
@Sphynx93rkn
@Sphynx93rkn 7 месяцев назад
Lol
@gobokoboobo4620
@gobokoboobo4620 7 месяцев назад
What is Genshin, says Smack.
@Delightful567
@Delightful567 7 месяцев назад
Wait wdym
@cgyang
@cgyang 7 месяцев назад
This is great news. Back when I started Genshin and believed the game would evolve over time, I would suggest open world features like this. Also random world bosses/events that drop gear and important materials. It looks like WuWa is putting some time in making the open world sustainable and alive.
@fastedwarrior7353
@fastedwarrior7353 7 месяцев назад
Finally someone spots the best part about Wuthering Waves.
@odisleftpaw5663
@odisleftpaw5663 7 месяцев назад
that is such a good system for casual players that only want to explore the map and have fun and for sweaty harcore tryhard players that like to grind everything, such a good middle ground
@truenod138
@truenod138 7 месяцев назад
they literally satisfied a grinder, a collector and an open world explorer player in ONE mechanic. This games endgame gonna slap
@koraymaru2926
@koraymaru2926 7 месяцев назад
I actually love this system instead of just repeating domains over and over this is unique and exciting also better than spending 5 minutes to finish stamina on domains then log out lol
@HawkieTalk
@HawkieTalk 7 месяцев назад
I spent about 15 seconds per domain 🤣
@itskarina0411
@itskarina0411 7 месяцев назад
@@HawkieTalk Weird flex from a weird game
@HawkieTalk
@HawkieTalk 7 месяцев назад
@itskarina0411 it's not about flex, I don't even have time to use characters. This is how bad the most difficult content in genshin
@itskarina0411
@itskarina0411 7 месяцев назад
@@HawkieTalk I know right. I mean like the so called "hardest content" is normally, mindlessly doable. Genshin still has nothing new to offer and it's been a while now that the only "endgame" stuff we can do is that boring Abyss
@danielcarrilho5217
@danielcarrilho5217 7 месяцев назад
Maybe don't go for meta constelations/weapons and then complain that the abyss is too easy...
@madscientist3800
@madscientist3800 7 месяцев назад
The way to obtain echoes is definitely cool, but the leveling system is very scuffed. Echoes cannot be used as fodder for other echoes, the only way to level up an echo is with the dedicated Echo EXP Material. You can kill hundreds of enemies until you get the perfect main stat + set type, but you still have to level the echo with exp material, then use tuning material to randomly roll for sub stats. Both the exp material and tuning material need to be farmed for with stamina. Tuning mats use 60 stamina, exp mats use 40 stamina. Getting the right main stat will be easy+free, getting the right substats will devour your stamina and make you suffer.
@FreeWillMind
@FreeWillMind 7 месяцев назад
Need to boost this one up. Leveling Echoes is gonna be the limiting factor, since unlike Domains/CoC you can't just one stop farm for the parts that you want while also getting the XP needed to level them up, instead you need to farm the overworld AND get XP
@cynthiahembree3957
@cynthiahembree3957 7 месяцев назад
If your in the beta put this complaint in your survey feedback. I know I will be
@madscientist3800
@madscientist3800 7 месяцев назад
@@cynthiahembree3957 I will. But I stand corrected on a few things, echoes can be used as fodder but only if you level them up to +5 or beyond first. And they only give 75% of their exp value back. The exp materials also drop from chests, the battle pass, and most domains, but only in very small amounts unless you farm the dedicated domain for echo exp materials. Now here's an issue I've come across while playing. You really *can't* farm echoes as much as you want, because eventually, you'll farm the enemy in the overworld completely and need to wait for them to respawn, I don't know how long it takes yet but I've waited hours and the enemies have not respawned. I killed the Elite level stone golems, there was only two on the whole map, and got no echo from them. Now I wait for them to respawn. This is very bad imo. Especially since the chances of an echo even being dropped is only 20%. So not only is the relic grind time gated, as you wait for the enemies to respawn every day and then mindlessly teleport around the map killing them, hoping you get the right stats, even when you do get them you'll need to farm two different materials that cost a lot of stamina to farm.
@animusdemifiend2307
@animusdemifiend2307 7 месяцев назад
Holy shit it already be clapping GI. Dont need a genshin killer, but a more friendly approach so ppl like me working their 50 a week can have a good time w some action.
@Kittysune12
@Kittysune12 7 месяцев назад
CBT everything is subject to change wait until full release.
@animusdemifiend2307
@animusdemifiend2307 7 месяцев назад
@@Kittysune12 for sure. But is already a good bell.
@Accountthatexists
@Accountthatexists 7 месяцев назад
This is a great system..........cause they let all people be time efficient wih the resin......but for all sweaty games u can just INFINITELY GRIND to ur hearts content under the restriction that u get less rewards That is such a good system to balance a casual and the dedicated sweaty gamers
@durant8006
@durant8006 7 месяцев назад
is it grind hell like summoner war and epic 7?
@lucidragon5260
@lucidragon5260 7 месяцев назад
Agreed! I love when gacha games have a system like this. You can spend stamina to get more rewards, or play without stamina and still make progress (albeit at a snail's pace)
@reyxo4657
@reyxo4657 7 месяцев назад
@@durant8006 There is no pvp in this game so a perfect min-max build should be unnecessary If you don't like to grind, you can just spend your daily stamina & log off It shouldn't take too long depending on what you need The open world is way less time efficient than the stamina It really just is a bonus for the sweaty players
@durant8006
@durant8006 7 месяцев назад
@@reyxo4657 thank you
@LuciidDreamz
@LuciidDreamz 7 месяцев назад
Just wanna say bro, I came around when you first started doing Wild Hearts content and it’s been a pleasure seeing your channel grow so fast. Keep it up dawg. Love your content!
@Shangb33
@Shangb33 7 месяцев назад
Boss echoes are grindable you only need stamina for the reward like union exp character upgrade materials etc.
@xgoom1234
@xgoom1234 7 месяцев назад
This is 100% convenient while also allowing players to feel more engaged in the world, and to not get bored so easily
@wutherer
@wutherer 7 месяцев назад
Man if your a sweaty or a trying hard casual min-maxing is necessary for this game's endgame, just seen Rex's run yesterday and oh boy the more you level up ( higher union level ), boss fights get's more difficult and the combat AI gets crazy! So it will be beneficial to have a leveled-builtup-minmaxed characters to even have a chance to beat it especially for casuals like me! And that right there really is a huge motivation to build your characters!
@jamitiong2978
@jamitiong2978 7 месяцев назад
I like how the dev made this so that the players have more purpose on killing world mobs and greatly rewarded and not just killing random hilichurl for no reason.
@Hitomonsunami
@Hitomonsunami 7 месяцев назад
Very much Thanks for the vid. Nobody talking about it much since the game doesn't really go deep in explaining the "relic" part of it. Most, like me, thought it was just an add-on for 3 new "moves" for combat and have active skills. This is probably the best "this changes everything" vid on WW I have ever seen.
@kokocute123
@kokocute123 7 месяцев назад
I just officially quit Genshin today after logging in every day since Nov 2020. I am so burn out and disappointed at the game and don't care anymore, then this video came! WW sounds really good, I just pre-registered!
@kidinc3649
@kidinc3649 7 месяцев назад
This is a breath of fresh air. Love it. Grinding will be fun, and while grinding them, no wonder this game has the chance to drop shiny, probably intended so it can be even more engaging Edit: Monster collecting is always a huge feature that many people love. That's why a pet system always thrives. I'm sold. Edit again: 10:30 Danjin amazing ass view . Thank you.
@jclspice
@jclspice 7 месяцев назад
So a game like genshin, but you can use the combat system for more than 10% of the activities, these people are getting my money for sure . I just hope they bring repeatable end game, in a raid like activity, with action combat.
@omensoffate
@omensoffate 7 месяцев назад
Bruh his hairline has been rising I swear 😂
@Gheniel_
@Gheniel_ 7 месяцев назад
Yesterday he cooked someone in the stream because they pointed that out 😂
@ramonvdelst
@ramonvdelst 7 месяцев назад
If you give smack you should be able to take it right? 😂
@Sk-up9cy
@Sk-up9cy 7 месяцев назад
I swear this game will really encourages you to explore the map, and getting a 100% exploration rate will be a cakewalk like literally. The fact that the grind is actually not timegated/energy gated compared to the other gacha games. One cons that I'm seeing though is the wider variety of builds though. The effort to create a new set would be very hard imo, since you'll have to make a new set of farmable enemies in the overworld, models and shits and that, etc. BUT, seeing how passionate the Kuro devs are to this game, I think they could achieve the impossible, who knows. Overall, the Echo system (Relic System) is a very good take considering it has the open world type genre, replayability? 100/10 Grind? 10/10 timegated? It really depends on your mentallity, you can grind for at least 3 or 5 hours or so, or you're a crazy bastard that will do a day nonstop grinding, it's up to you. Can you further expand new upcoming sets? I doubt, but it's possible, it depends to their efforts.
@donnellhopkins8879
@donnellhopkins8879 7 месяцев назад
That echoe system is the perfect thing for me that solves my HONKAI star rail issue. Love playing the game but like you said cost stamina to get relics. Even though the boss costs stamina in wuthering waves we can still farm because the others don’t. Definitely glad I’m able to get me my computer to play this shit. YEZZRR!💯💯
@yp_ross1850
@yp_ross1850 7 месяцев назад
One of the things that made quit genshin was that after certain point i had a constant "what's the point" kind of feeling, on farming basic mobs, exploring etc. in this game there's a point on going around the map committing mas genocide
@stephguevarra3921
@stephguevarra3921 7 месяцев назад
because genshin is mainly for casual you can play it at your own phase.
@Kittysune12
@Kittysune12 7 месяцев назад
that problem will also appeared on WW it’s not exclusive to genshin when you complete all content all grind you always left with nothing to do until next update dropped
@nah131
@nah131 7 месяцев назад
@@stephguevarra3921ok mint picker 😂😂
@nah131
@nah131 7 месяцев назад
@@Kittysune12WuWa has 3 end game contents? Genshin has what? Spiral Abyss for 3 years+? mint picker dude😂😂
@Kittysune12
@Kittysune12 7 месяцев назад
@@nah131 what is the 3 end game content ?
@DarthYu
@DarthYu 7 месяцев назад
There will be 2 camps for this: Those that have the time to grind and those that do not.
@5_tokki
@5_tokki 7 месяцев назад
This system could also be frustrating if enemies don't respawn quick.
@RashdosEU
@RashdosEU 7 месяцев назад
The reason other Gatchas have a energy system is so they force u to stop and come back tomorrow. That will increase the daily active player metric. That's all. Imagine we could farm relics on HSR without energy (lets say instead of the 2 guaranteed u have 25% chance to drop 1 and if u get 1 u have again 25% chance to get the 2nd), I could just auto that all day non stop and eventually in a week have a full build for my characters and not log in for the rest of the patch (Still prob would cuz jades but u know). That's what I think. Might be wrong? Yes but makes sense in my head. With that said cant wait for WW and play the fuck out of this.
@hipunpun
@hipunpun 7 месяцев назад
You are right. Some argue it's limited to tempt players to refresh their stamina.
@Kittysune12
@Kittysune12 7 месяцев назад
they’re just testing water im sure on full release they will change it
@ForTheViolence
@ForTheViolence 7 месяцев назад
The crownless is giving strong solo leveling vibes.
@hijodelsoldeoriente
@hijodelsoldeoriente 7 месяцев назад
One more thing to mention is the fact that due to the "COST" system for equipping echoes. The lower-cost echoes are not rendered obsolete. So you can't just have echoed with 4 costs like Crownless. You still need to equip a 1 Cost very commen echo like a measly insect echo cause you need to fill the 10 Cost echoes. Hence, a measly 1 cost insect echo is needed along with the menacing 4 cost overlord echo. No discrimination. In Genshin, it's such a huge problem for other artifacts to be relevant. The only leeway is a single off-piece set. I also love how this system actually is perfectly, too perfectly in my opinion, designed for open world. Specially for Single-player open world games.
@miahyourmom2195
@miahyourmom2195 7 месяцев назад
Also good for streamers, better than picking mint
@slowdown4055
@slowdown4055 7 месяцев назад
i can already see myself pulling full nighters farming the game with snacks i'm exited for this game
@oohitzmario
@oohitzmario 7 месяцев назад
not being fully locked behind an energy mechanic is amazing, looking forward to getting in and playing one day 😁
@V.Law360
@V.Law360 7 месяцев назад
Can't wait to see u cover it an also the next up coming monster hunter thanks to u an a few others is why I became a speed runner still have a long way to good but keep up the good content bro miss the lil messages u use to give at the beginning of ur videos can't wait to see more
@AJLaz000
@AJLaz000 7 месяцев назад
I never understood why Gacha games are so allergic to letting they players farm...
@krypticsol7178
@krypticsol7178 7 месяцев назад
So you're saying they added a pokemon esc... stat progression system... what...!? I'm gonna love this game. That idea is GODLIKE
@justlikemikee1
@justlikemikee1 7 месяцев назад
I mean I guess ill leave a like and comment for Gpa Smack
@jyuu6650
@jyuu6650 7 месяцев назад
4.0 GPA 🗣️🥶😼🔥
@PK-mh9qf
@PK-mh9qf 7 месяцев назад
The stamina system comes from old chinese MMOs. The only thing the "gacha genre" has in common with each other is the gacha itself. Some gachas don't have stamina systems, and some gachas only have stamina systems to make regulators happy while secretly showering the player with unlimited stamina refills (the original Granblue Fantasy does this) Ignore anyone who tells you "this-and-that can't be done in a different way because its not a part of the 'gacha genre'". They're idiots. The only thing that can't be done in a different way is the gacha itself, otherwise it wouldn't be called a gacha.
@Kyddious
@Kyddious 7 месяцев назад
Another fun thing Smack, you dont get substats till you use orbs to give echoes sub stats
@AevyCh
@AevyCh 7 месяцев назад
I have one question... If the Echoes are the relic/artifact counterpart of the game, is there a way to guarantee their drops ( hsr's cavern of corrosion or genshin's artifact domain)? Genshin have always had this feature (all elite enemies have a chance of dropping artifacts) but it's limited to 3* & 4* artifacts. From my experience, farming the overworld every single day can be very tiring due to how big the map is.
@facehugger8995
@facehugger8995 7 месяцев назад
as a genshin player I just wish we had honkais reserves for energy so I don't have to log in everyday
@hipunpun
@hipunpun 7 месяцев назад
Same! I really want this!
@nah131
@nah131 7 месяцев назад
they said Genshin is a casual game but it creates FOMO because there is no reserves energy lmao
@lightseeder358
@lightseeder358 7 месяцев назад
It's simple at this point. Any game that wants to be successful just have to implement some form of pokemon mechanics and everyone will go crazy. No hate here, I'm all for it.
@blackdust7353
@blackdust7353 7 месяцев назад
Wow that is a massive W for Wuthering Waves to me. Imma grind the hell out of those creatures
@statesminds
@statesminds 7 месяцев назад
Hoping it comes to ps5 around same time as pc bc i dont wanna play on mobile since its an action game and i only have a steamdeck for pc. The game seems awesome
@stupidowl666
@stupidowl666 7 месяцев назад
stamina system = incentive to use jades for stamina refreshes
@banana_1_
@banana_1_ 7 месяцев назад
the way i see it stamina is the two of lesser evils, i was watching someone play persona 3, and they were complaining about their characters being underleveled, and it occured to me that this is never an issue in gacha games, in gacha games stamina is your grinding, and all your character progression comes from stamina, yeah it artific8ially time locks your progression, but at the same time there is no grind, your grind is autoing, and maybe playing the game normally gives you some exp items too. I think the reason i like gacha games is that you dont have to put in any work to get a maxed out character, its given to you if you're doing the resources, compared to a single player game like persona where you have to manually use a character to kill mobs and gain exp. as someone who likes using units and experimenting, having the units auto progressed for me by just paying the gacha tax of logging in every day, and not having to invest hours of my time into leveling grinding my characters is what i value the most For a game like genshin or wuthering waves, i think id prefer if there was no grind. i think the game should be about exploring the world, doing combat in the world and maybe interesting new content in the world, not grinding out mobs one by one to gain power. I think the issue you're refering to when you talk about genshin and nothing to do but mintpicking is moreso a lack of content issue, because pretty much exploration and abyss is the only content genshins made for 3 years. if you look at pgr theres a ton of game modes, roguelikes and ways to play, and if wuthering waves implements these, players wont run into the mintpicking issue regardless if theres a long grind or not. obviously its just personal preference from me to prefer a time locked progression system over manual grinding, but im just sharing my side because i think people really overlook some benefits of time locked progression
@isaac15752
@isaac15752 7 месяцев назад
thats not really unique, granblue fantasy has been doing that for the past 10 years, there you have so much stamina you can play 20 hours a day easily LOL
@rykersixx
@rykersixx 7 месяцев назад
I think this is great for the simple fact you have a reason to go back through the map again. The only negative I could see is this being too time intensive for the average mobile/gacha/variety player. That said you could also just log off and play something else😂. Just because you can doesn’t mean you have to.
@JustABearCub
@JustABearCub 7 месяцев назад
I hadn’t heard about the shiny variants of the echoes. If this remains a big thing for the game i can see WuWa both grabbing folks from the Genshin community and pokemon communities. Shiny hunting is such a massive thing over there and now people will get to hunt with immersive game play
@SgtRaizo
@SgtRaizo 7 месяцев назад
You failed to mention that leveling echos cost stamina Also you only can get sub-stats by leveling the echo piece and they’re rng
@rexevan6714
@rexevan6714 7 месяцев назад
From what I see, this way instead of spending resin, I will have to go around the overworld. As a Open World Game, I approve this
@F.I.N.A.L.I.T.Y.
@F.I.N.A.L.I.T.Y. 7 месяцев назад
They tied artifacts to exploration, so it immerses us even more and takes out the frustrating domain grind? And its pokemon
@danielw.2456
@danielw.2456 7 месяцев назад
My thoughts? I wish this game was out so i could play it! Haha.
@hipunpun
@hipunpun 7 месяцев назад
Same!
@kenkaneki3873
@kenkaneki3873 7 месяцев назад
I don't know if stream chat has informed you yet but there's another layer to Echoes which is similiar to Hoyoverse relics/artifacts: After you level up Echoes that you like the main stats of, you can "tune" them which unlocks substats on that Echo and allows you to get your crit rate crit dmg ultimate dmg etc however from what I can tell this requires a material that you do need to spend stamina on
@iAmPrice
@iAmPrice 7 месяцев назад
Yea so basically lvling up and getting rolls cost, but you can still go find as many of the good mainstat you want for free. Tho i would take you point and if we players push out saying we don't want that rng substat part all together and a relic should just have that 1 RNG main stat, its still possible to make a change
@zankoushadow
@zankoushadow 7 месяцев назад
@@rachedsoussi9802 nah i think its really good to be able to get any mainstat u want for no stamina and level everything up you can beat the content but for more hardcore players theres the substat system so theres more uniqueness to builds and min maxing players can do
@Gheniel_
@Gheniel_ 7 месяцев назад
Cap​@@rachedsoussi9802
@indomitable2566
@indomitable2566 7 месяцев назад
It might be a good balance between both stamina and non-stamina usage, and we’ll have to see how many substats there are, and what are the chances to hit the substats that you want. Getting the main stat you want and the artifact you want was quite a hurdle in genshin domains with resin cap. In genshin, you can use up all your resin for a day, and not even have one artifact with a main stat you want. However, here at least you can easily farm as many echoes as you want for a main stat you want, all stamina-free. You will have big pool of echos to roll substats from.
@Mystokaii
@Mystokaii 7 месяцев назад
Yeah, this is the thing a lot of players seem to miss. All things considered, it is not that hard to get relics/artifacts/echo with main-stat you want, the real challenge comes from getting correct sub-stats. Considering that you can unlock sub-stat 1 by 1 it kinda lets you filter out echo you want for your ''main'' characters, and I wish they would add reroll feature or something.
@Justme-jp8ih
@Justme-jp8ih 7 месяцев назад
I got CBT2 invitation for the platforms PC+IOS. Problem is im using Android Phone and dont have a PC 💀 I have an iPad tho but I hate playing on a Tablet. Wait, actually maybe I could use it like a PC with mouse and keyboard
@ItsJohnBomb
@ItsJohnBomb 7 месяцев назад
I'm not sure if I like all the RNG. You have to hope the creature drops an echo, for the right set, with the right main stat, and then rolls with good substats. Character levels/ascension/skills can only go so high, so maybe in endgame, there will be a way to target farm echoes more easily (with stamina, probably). It sounds like a pretty good system for casual players to get "relics" just from exploring, but the hard-core players will have an annoying grind trying to get an optimum build.
@GachaSmack07
@GachaSmack07 7 месяцев назад
The alternative in other gacha games is to get off the game or spend more stamina lol you’re complaining about them giving you an additional alternative that’s F2P friendly which is completely optional for you to do.
@ItsJohnBomb
@ItsJohnBomb 7 месяцев назад
​@@GachaSmack07 Don't get me wrong, it looks like a cool system and I can't wait to shiny hunt lol. These are just some of my thoughts and concerns. How did this even come across as complaining?
@pisithchung5938
@pisithchung5938 7 месяцев назад
@@ItsJohnBomb Maybe english is not your first language but it does come off as complaining, also your above replies as well. Dont reply back to me.
@WB-mn9fv
@WB-mn9fv 7 месяцев назад
Nobody wants to be a mint picker.
@stephguevarra3921
@stephguevarra3921 7 месяцев назад
nobody wants to be a tectone simp like you.
@YinlinsPuppet
@YinlinsPuppet 7 месяцев назад
Everybody is going to be echo hunting instead when this game releases
@BimbiDawg
@BimbiDawg 7 месяцев назад
It's really cool, i can't wait to play the game after 8 months , but hey congratulations to the ones who get to play tge cbt 2
@filipedamaceno5185
@filipedamaceno5185 7 месяцев назад
This is perfect. The fact that I can go on hsr, spend 5-10 minutes doing dailies, and go back do grind on WuWa if I want is amazing. For a guy like me who is only playing hsr now, this is great.
@haze6894
@haze6894 7 месяцев назад
Damn I can't wait for this game ( I mean I can but I can't you know😂) I definitely see some issues in the game but tba, This game will for sure have more in its 1.0 launch than genshins 1.0 did.
@itamarliv1
@itamarliv1 7 месяцев назад
I think brax also mentioned it briefly. But yeah it's pretty dope
@DifféranceHorizon
@DifféranceHorizon 7 месяцев назад
Yeah as some others have said in the comments you don't need to use stamina to collect boss echo's, you only need stamina to get the drops after beating it. The echo itself is free just wait for the respawn time 👍
@reality7068
@reality7068 7 месяцев назад
I'm liking the echo system more and more. Can't wait to catch them all
@lotrfan4237
@lotrfan4237 7 месяцев назад
No limit on farming? That’s it, this game is already a million times better than Genshin.
@fenrirlives2226
@fenrirlives2226 7 месяцев назад
I'm loving the more dynamic nature of this system. Equipment is alright, but this system of your Relics/Artifacts being summons is way more involved and has SO much more Diegesis to it. You're not having to imagine your radical Lightning Spirit wielding General wearing some Goofy lookin' Rock Band boots. It's all visually consistent and awesome! Great Video Mr. Smack! Lookin forward to the next banger!
@someguy268
@someguy268 7 месяцев назад
Its really a good thing that they added the points system of equipping echoes, this give more balance to avoid equipping more bosses echoes as it will be too overkill.
@M_night69420
@M_night69420 7 месяцев назад
This is so awesome bc grinding for artifacts infinitely is what I always wanted
@stephguevarra3921
@stephguevarra3921 7 месяцев назад
nice way to get burnt out easily.
@merafera3390
@merafera3390 7 месяцев назад
​@@stephguevarra3921but farming a single domain for months on limited stamina per day is better?
@TKP83349
@TKP83349 7 месяцев назад
Can anyone confirm if weathering waves will launch in India?
@ramonvdelst
@ramonvdelst 7 месяцев назад
Im an HSR enjoyer but is this a "Honkai Would Never" moment?
@theyinyang1103
@theyinyang1103 7 месяцев назад
Star Rail couldve done this, make character ascension materials and relic calyxes cost fuel but let us farm orbs and ropes in simulated universe…
@gameguy1337
@gameguy1337 7 месяцев назад
All sounds great but can we start saying "Pokemon could never?"
@Sayanos1
@Sayanos1 7 месяцев назад
Have your waves been wuthered yet? Mine sure have
@TjYau
@TjYau 7 месяцев назад
"Essentially your artifact system in HSR and relic system in Honkai Star Rail"- Gacha Smack lol
@lmc19899
@lmc19899 7 месяцев назад
Oh man, the boss echoes system is similar to the soul cores system in Nioh 2. Its freaking cool. Can't wait to play this game now.
@dragonfury197
@dragonfury197 7 месяцев назад
5:20 but they don't? you can farm the bosses without using stamina just need to wait for the rewards to despawn which takes a few minutes and then fight them again but there is a limit to the echos you use since there is a system called "Cost" and a boss echo uses 4 cost while a normal enemy will use 1-3 depending on which one but the limit right now you can upgrade to is 12 so you cant have a full boss of echos but you 100% farm them for better stats.
@cssghostPL
@cssghostPL 7 месяцев назад
Not really interested in Wuthering Waves but im happy that you are happy. Now some rant: why items can't be items, but some pokemons, come ooonn. They could just add new animation of special skill to character, and not swap for pal to help.
@kaji4517
@kaji4517 7 месяцев назад
Sir, is the exploration annoyingly tiring? I mean, is it as time-consuming as climbing around in Genshin?
@KentakoXNoan
@KentakoXNoan 7 месяцев назад
You can literally wall run instead of climbing, that'll be so much faster. The stamina also regenerate really quick
@BulletSponge71436
@BulletSponge71436 7 месяцев назад
Smack, don't forget to tell Kuro Games that this system is actually very good! They need to know that we really like it!
@MyOnlyYans
@MyOnlyYans 7 месяцев назад
I'd be cautious about praising this system too early. We praised Simulated Universe as a stamina-free activity, but a year in I doubt anybody is running it more than the obligatory 2 per week.
@franktownsend3483
@franktownsend3483 7 месяцев назад
Having day to day play is what burns me out. No shot im getting on the pc everyday to play a game. Hsr is so mobile friendly and has auto which is nice. I might play WUWA in small bursts for fun.
@OmenLamb
@OmenLamb 7 месяцев назад
While this system is freaking insane and an amazing feature for Wuthering Waves, especially for the fun of collecting. 05:58 I agree with Hoyo on this one, the amount of damage this feature would cause to day-to-day player retention would not be good for their games, especially Genshin, the thought of infinitely farming Domains/Bosses in Star Rail or Genshin for Relics/Artifacts would be crazy bad. Again infinitely farming these Echoes is super cool for Wuthering Wave, but not for Hoyo Games I think it's a good idea it's limited, they should not adopt this idea into their games if they want players to play every day and grind.
@ShinichiKudo14122
@ShinichiKudo14122 7 месяцев назад
yes this sold me too! unfortunately i wasnt able to join in cbt but i was watching rexlent play, so i can give feedback as well even if i dont play. god i cant wait for release!
@Da_Realist_Inu
@Da_Realist_Inu 7 месяцев назад
the echo system has now sold me to play WuWa when it launches, because its like when, i do my Lynel hunting in BOTW and TOTK, no restrictions of stamina/energy limit hoping for that drop to have a +60 for BOTW and +20 for TOTK because in TOTK fuse ability will further enhance the weapons damage. WHEN WILL THIS GAME RELEASE I WANT TO PLAY IT SO BAD!
@borghe
@borghe 7 месяцев назад
yeah Hoyo's gear system is bad.. compared to this and Reverse 1999. Granted Reverse 1999 still requires you to spend stamina BUT there is no RNG.. and you can also level up Resonance in RE99 usually with event participation which much of which doesn't require stamina usage. Honestly they won't.. but hoyo just needs to change relics/artifacts.. at the very least remove stamina from them. I just find it hard to believe that purchasing stamina to grind relics is a major source of income (though I could be wrong).. leave it on ascension and talents.. but just let us grind out gear... I mean shit... I could STILL TAKE WEEKS to grind out good gear sets for free... KEEPING US IN GAME..
@Axterix13
@Axterix13 7 месяцев назад
I wouldn't say no other gacha game has a feature like this. Arknights has an energy-free system as well. The rogue-like mode doesn't require sanity (Arknights's resin-equiv), but still rewards the drops needed to advance characters. It does this through a reward track, and every month they extend that track. So not infinite farming, but it definitely provides a way a Sanity-free way to play when you have more time. And there's no FOMO factor either, as the track stays. Meaning that the longer the game is around, the longer it'll take a new player to get all the awards.
@Nomiko.
@Nomiko. 7 месяцев назад
Okay, but can i spend stamina to get them reliably and higher quality? Roaming map and killing trash mobs for green/blue relics is good, but what if i'm somewhat casual player and don't want spend so much time doing that? Is my progression is gated until i start spending hours and farming mobs daily? You can kill mobs in genshin and they sometimes drop artifacts as well, but these are placeholder/fodder/early game artifacts.
@rim-1or4wr1y
@rim-1or4wr1y 7 месяцев назад
WDYM I CAN ACTUALLY PLAY THE GAME?! 😲 (genshin could/would/will never)
@nataku008
@nataku008 7 месяцев назад
this unending farming is an MMO thing where mobs just respawn after a few seconds/minutes and it makes me nostalgic for some reason. the game should eventually add something like IV/EV training in Pokémon so you can just level up stats you want, or even all of it. or maybe breeding to get a shiny echo with perfect stats easier.
@PZV756
@PZV756 7 месяцев назад
The echo system is basicaly Nioh 2
@Beanskiiii
@Beanskiiii 7 месяцев назад
Thank for pointing this out. I was scared of burn out. I do want them to have more mobs in the environment and make them slightly harder to fight. And add an abyss mode for hardcore players
@Hidomaru_
@Hidomaru_ 7 месяцев назад
Im saving up all the money I planned to spend on other Gacha's now, I Cant wait to play this game. Its looks so good and fun If Genshin or Star Rail had a System like this I would farm the whole map all day. This Makes u feel like u not wasting your time and its realy good.
@IamHolou
@IamHolou 7 месяцев назад
This new system seems not only good for player retention but for CCs as well. This is good content and having a constant stream of dopamine is gonna make this game last
@Planeta1951
@Planeta1951 7 месяцев назад
What are the respawn times for those mobs ? Once a day like genshin? If so this could be actually worse time/effort wise than spamming those idiotic, boring domains.
@FredKing
@FredKing 7 месяцев назад
Stamina or energy system isn't a problem but if it takes you 15 full days to fully max out your newly obtained character that just sucks and oh btw just swipe your credit card and that problem goes away.
@crashsparrow6943
@crashsparrow6943 7 месяцев назад
That's one of the best decisions they could've made, in my opinion. My biggest gripe with Genshin Impact was always that it didn't let me play when I wanted to.
@willander0140
@willander0140 7 месяцев назад
will the best echo's in the game cost stamina to farm tho?, right now you are on greens and blues, Will this go up with lvling of your account like HSR?
@BackTwoBaySix
@BackTwoBaySix 7 месяцев назад
I think this just won't hold work at endgame, its like genshin you can get low level relics opening chests/investigating random things but not the highest level.
@lHlearts
@lHlearts 7 месяцев назад
Seems nice, but how often do these enemies spawn? Indefinitely or once a day?
@happi4957
@happi4957 7 месяцев назад
four questions: 1. is there some sort of world level and if yes do echos get better with higher world level? 2. I heard there is a system where enemies basically have a shiny version. What do they give and what are the chances of you getting one? 3. How many rarities of echos are there? 4. is there a limit to how many echos I can have in my inventory?
@keme1770
@keme1770 4 месяца назад
Wuthering waves easily doing these attraction features in open world meanwhile genshin….. Chests🗿
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