This “million dollar duchess” didn’t get a happy ending-she got an utter nightmare. Read the article: www.factinate.... Visit the site: www.factinate.... Facebook: / factinate TikTok: / factinate Instagram: / factinate
God that’s such an overused sentiment. Why do people take glee in seeing the powerful and wealthy living unhappy lives, it’s actually perverse and it certainly doesn’t make you any happier in your own life.
No way, rather be poor and be married to my best friend who is also my husband. No amount of money will make you happy, I say that from experience. @@Crazy-Clown-In-Town
Those credentials you just put out there doesn't mean shit to me, someone who actually does have them, based on your wildly inappropriate remote diagnosis! Please don't talk again and then people won't have to be misdirected.
@carolinemacrae6227 Invoke credentials like that and be that off base, and you'll hear from me. What we know is only about 6 percent of the population is narcissist, Let alone this combo she's suggesting. It was in poor form and here's to having learned a lesson
@@tiger38able Just like the tRumps! donnie s makes me want barf and the way he acts and talks is scummy. No class even Queen Elizabeth found him disgusting.
No. She'll die and do a life review as we all will do. No judgement--from herself or other spiritual beings. Her next life, however, won't be (or wasn't) pleasant. Probably an African American born into poverty. That would balance the karmic scale. There's no escaping karma.
I don’t know that they ever pay for the damage they do. Impossible. The damage is done. Horrible people just leave human wreckage strewn all over the cities, the towns, the globe! What happens in The afterlife we cannot know. Imaginary and small comfort; it won’t undo a lifetime of abuse and madness.
It wasn't about keeping wealth within a certain group. The Vanderbilts were incredibly wealthy but it was a matter of status and Alva was determined that Consuelo must marry an English Duke.
Think she was blaming her daughtre for ' losing the war'? iI mean just put yourself in her shoes,she was a pamperSouthern belle. Had power over whoever she pleased most of her life Then WHAM, South looses, bye bye all the income earning Slaves. So guess who HAS TO WORK FOR A LIVING THEN. Just stop living/ thinking like it was back in,1840's
Child abuse is the worst thing a person can engage in and it should be a topic in mainstream discourse like income inequality, war, climate change, etc.
That was the norm among the British aristocracy and American rich. Business contracts. Rarely love. Same with the British aristocracy amongst themselves. Rarely love. Power marriages or marriages that bailed out the impoverished aristocrats.
you married for power, property or political gain, love was not required. it's transitory and fleeting, you find love after you have the heir and the spare. and both survive to the age of 10.
@elizabethnisotis334 -- Daughters back when were 'chips' to unite empires, aristocratic families, and a way to enrich families. Dreadful thing to do to your own child, but that is how things were done then, they knew nothing better. I wonder if, to a certain extent, that still goes on Western societies? I have heard it goes on in some other societies.
Basically yes. The American rich aspired to be aristocracy , the US did away with it and the rich tried ever since to bring it back. In that class the chief sport was who.was sleeping with who, Winston Churchill's mom was a classic example. The mom was a typical southern woman who seemed herself to be noble,nothing was out of bounds.
Very sick and an abuser; especially the way she use to beat her slaves down in Mobile, Alabama where she is originally from, before she made it to N.Y. to become High Society. To be accepted into that rich society!
@@ValleyoftheRogueso what then- you think they made all this up?! Don’t think so - this women was the “Mommy Dearest” of her era, prob just like so many other wealthy, entitled and manipulative women who’s husbands just stood by while they proceeded to ruin their daughters’ lives by basically “selling” them off- though obviously the farther back you go, men were notorious for doing this as well, of course- it’s as old as time.😡
Edith Wheaton did a great job depicting how American princesses fared with the British aristocracy in The Buccaneers. The book was also dramatized in a TV series.
Trust me: Narcissist fathers are no picnic, either. My Dad was famous and always had a woman to abuse. First his Mother, then mine, then me. It really, really sucked and I've never quite recovered from it.
Alvia reminds me a bit of my (born 1885) great aunt, Edith, who cried very loud and publicly all the way through her only daughter's wedding, not because she was moved with love, but because she believed her daughter's choice of husband - an accountant - was "beneath her". What a nasty snob she was!!! I met Gt Aunt Edith once, in the1960s when I was little. She was a real dragon 😩😩😩😩😩😩
You're right. My mom was a manipulative narcissist. She hated me. I was the baby of 4 my sister, the oldest. Sister & mom seemed to get along, although no love lost between them. Fortunately, my Daddy spoiled me and loved me unconditionally. until I learned about narcissists I thought mom was jealous of me. I've learned that my sister is the same. Controls her husband and kids with emotional blackmail. I married a man strong in family morals, God, and country.
Consuelo was left utterly powerless. She tried to take control the only way she could, by having 😢affairs and trying to hurt her indifferent husband. Her Mother was a monster. That woman has alot to answer to God for.
My mom and I visited Marble House in Newport in the '90s - Alva and William's summer home. Alva did indeed become a suffragist and had a Japanese tea house built in the front yard to hold parties for that cause. The custom teacups had printed on them "Votes for Women." As the gift shop sold teacups and mugs with those words on them, we each bought one. They were probably not exact replicas. They were more like heavy restaurant ware than fine china. Of course Alva would not have been serving anything in mugs, either. I have a mug and a cup-and-saucer. My mother passed away last year, and I still have both and cherish them greatly. According to the tour, Alva not only had that scandalous affair with her husband's friend, she filed for divorce and married either that friend or another man, owner of a less lavish but still fine house down the street in Newport. It created a big scandal in those upper-class circles, but she seems to have held onto much of her status. I recognized Marble House in the PBS miniseries The Buccaneers, based on Edith Wharton's unfinished novel about the fates of three young women married off to British aristocrats. One of them shared some features of Consuelo's story.
I wish my mother had arranged for me to marry a Duke! You people sitting on your moral high horse pretending you wouldn’t jump at the chance to marry into English aristocracy if you got the chance 🙄
In the 90’s I bought myself a beautiful flowery bedspread Gloria Vanderbilt. It lasted me almost 20 years. The quality of the fabrics and the colors were so exquisite. Every time I hear the name, I remember my beautiful bedspread.
I watched the PBS Masterpiece Theater miniseries in one go one night. There is a scene where one of the debutantes marries her English aristocrat, and pretty much right after the wedding party, he takes her to the wing of the house where all the furniture is covered in white cloth, telling her he's broke. She's devastated that he married her only for her money, but it gets worse. He has been seeing a secret mistress and keeping her up in a nearby cottage. The wife tells the mistress to stop. In a sort of happy ending for the wife, her husband asks for a fresh start. Minus the happy ending, it sounds a lot like Consuelo's story.
No bodily autonomy no financial autonomy no agency over your clothing food activities, forcebreeding with a genetically and sexually incompatible older man chosen by your owners. There's a word for that but it's not pawn 🤨
Typical British Upper Class marriage. This type of marriage was the norm, not the exception. They spend less time with their spouses and children, and more time socializing and bed hopping. As long as no one makes a fuss or ends "the arrangement", the marriage is considered a proper success. The British Royal Family set the standard for the rest of society with its own marital immoral conduct, so it is not unusual that the other lesser titled peers followed their example.
They were falling over themselves to sell themselves, their titles, their grand histories, their bloodlines, to mega wealthy Americans - and _still_ feeling superior! 😆As you say, so long as the woman was canny, able to play the game, and produced Heir & Spare at a minimum the whole thing was deemed a success.
@@lydialily846 That doesn't get any less of a mind f*ck the older we get either. More if anything. Those who wept for 'Their Diana' also cooed over Camilla in a crown.
I love how it's scandalous for a woman to have an affair, but not for a man to, meanwhile he had no money, and just basically took her as part of the paycheck she came with. What a disgusting society, we aren't great but at least my family can't throw money at someone to take me.
But there is still that double-standard to some extent these days. Take the subject matter of midlife crisis, menopause and in general age. My favorite one is really the age thing. Men are "distinguished" when they have wrinkles the likes of a trainstation with all the tracks all over the map, where women are just downright "old" (and ugly). Never mind the part where men have a belly, it's somewhat acceptable. Women are rather fat and disgusting looking. Then there is the male chauvinism. But the femme fatale - that is of course a problem. Do women earn the same dollar and penny amount for the same job that men are doing these days? And I am not talking about the type of job responsibility that involves physical strength, but intellectual input (i.e. technical / computer). How often do we see male secretaries? A bit discriminatory there anyone?
That’s not completely accurate. After WWI, the British aristocracy found themselves cash poor, so many were unable to continue maintaining their estates. One solution was to marry male British aristocrats to American heiresses. It was a trade off…the American woman (and her family) attained titles and status, while the British men got the funds necessary to support their lifestyles.
Todays women have no concept of what it was like for women in the US before the modern age. Women were treated as property, just as slaves were. They could be kidnapped, restrained, tortured physically and mentally, have no free will, no resources, and their lives were not their own. It eased up in the 20th century, but it wasn't until mid-century that things got better. Even then, a woman who divorced her husband ended up in much worse circumstances, generally in poverty, and often not allowed custody of their children due to this poverty and inability to provide. Even when women could find work, it wasn't substantial, and low paying. In mid century, women started to move up in the world. In the 1970s, when Helen Gurley Brown was made editor of Cosmopolitan magazine, a lot of press touted that she was the FIRST woman editor of a magazine. Prior, men had been editors, and even of a distinctly womens magazine. Over and over women started to get better jobs, better pay, better education, and found ways to get out of the bonds of marriage to men who didn't love them. I can remember my grandmother saying many times that her husband would say "no wife of mine will ever be allowed to work! It's a disgrace". She said this proudly, as his sign of love, because this way men kept the women bound to them for life. My grandmother was basically his slave, doing EVERYTHING for him. I saw her standing at alert in the living room, nervously waiting for his car to come up the drive and then she'd rapidly slip her stilettos on, and pour him a fresh cocktail, to be ready when he walked in. She'd put on a fresh dress, stockings, did her hair and makeup, all for his homecoming. He'd sit down, take his drink, and grandmother would slip his shoes/socks off and massage his feet with oil, before putting his slippers on. When his cocktail was done, dinner was served immediately, no delay at all, for any reason. After dinner he'd go to watch TV while grandmother and I would clean up the kitchen. This is how I was raised to believe men were treated, and womens role in marriage. I was born in the 1950s.
@@theknitwit7098 The point here is that the girl herself wanted none of the titles and status, so such cases are, indeed, abuse. Why keep splitting hairs.
@@MJ-hl1kk You completely missed my point. I was arguing that when American heiresses were married off to British aristocrats, there was a sort of trade for value. The man got the money, and the family received the prestige of the connection to the man’s titled family. It was never about what the young woman (or the young man) wanted..,it was about creating or firming up dynasties.
Sadly-it’s not a ‘was’ but an ‘is’. Where I work, we have a lot of very wealthy families patronize our business. Some are not to be believed in their arrogance! Others are the most lovely people I’ve ever met. I like the people who remain humble.
I loved it, thank you.. I have always loved her and thought of her above all others.. Shes so lovely and beautiful I wish i could have saved her from her unhappiness.. I wish I could just have a conversation with her whether in her younger years or in the later years of her life, either way it doesn't matter.. to me she's the most beautiful girl that ever lived. RIP Angel.
The only thing that bothered me were the constant replays of the scenes, over and over in a loop. It was quite annoying. Other than that, the rest of it was enjoyable.😊
Apparently Balsan and her younger son both died the same year, 1956. Her wish was to be buried with the younger son. So basically her marriage ended until his death. You can find it on wikipedia. There is also a link to a webpage in the show notes.
To me, this is why I don't lookup my family history because I am confident it's not as I think it will be. Imagine finding out this horrific Mother.....was in your history?
Not in America. But Trump was trying 😂😂😂. He's lost his last marble, so.... Bah-bye little chump stump trump. He trumped himself right out of the realm of reality.
@jacquiethebibleophil "The last year's of conswalas life were everything she deserved" so it ended badly you say. It didn't she was happily married in the end. The divorce was good. She could remarry a better suited man. It started badly but ended well. Really! Really! Yes!
@jacquiethebibliophil she was married to her second husband for 35 years. She remained friendly with various of the Marlboroughs including Winston Churchill (who had utterly awful parents also)
the rod to the spine was not unusual for the time, they also placed a knife between the back of a chair and the spine. you slumped or "lounged" and you got cut. Alva was a card-carrying social climber and as ruthless as she felt she needed to be. Gibson did a comic of Consuelo being tied by the wrists and forced to marry the duke. EVERYONE knew she didn't want to marry him. she went to the wedding weeping. talk about a sacrificial lamb.
It was one of the most beautiful places I've ever seen! I think that other than the beautiful interiors of the palace, I was greatly impressed with the grounds.
I was so afraid that Consuela would never find love that was real and lasting. It was a twisted and horrible road to get there, but I was interested that Winston Churchill came from the marriage of heart break. Funny how what England desperately needed during the war came from such a painful union!
what about Consuelo's ex? didn't he remarry as well? was he finally happy too? seems like those old houses, the cost and up keep forced a lot of people to do things they didn't want to do just to hang onto them...my question, was it worth it to those people?
Wow... its as if she wasnt wanted as a baby. So the mother decide to vow within herself to torture this girl to nothing. So sad that she didnt have her father to lean on for help. But, in the end, she was blessed for enduring all that torture.
@@wandaclark9252 Actually, doing fine without an imaginary diety watching and recording my every thought and deed. Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy, the Easter Bunny and Jehova/Yahweh/Allah are all made up.
Her marriage sounded like the Georgiana Duchess of Devonshire who was born into the Spencer Family, so she would have been related to the duke that Consuelo married. Aristocrat's all behaved the same. Watch the film ‘The Duchess’
She wasn’t the only one. “Dollar Princesses” they were called. Broke British aristocracy were hungry for the mega “new money” in American families. Who were in turn greedy for a titled daughter and the status inherent thereof. Tragic to “sell” your daughters like cattle. But Consuelo’s upbringing was the most horrific. Not a moment of play or fun, just a rigorous training regime on comportment, elocution, manners etc. I’ve seen the device Alva concocted to keep the daughter’s posture erect, unbelievable. She’d have also had Consuelo tight laced into a corset at a very young age, forcing her to wear it to bed also for fear her waist would expand. I’m sure strict dietary rules were enforced to keep her slim. Because judging by Consuelo’s face and her mother’s figure, she’d be prone to rotundness.
The Vanderbuilt bloodline has always been evil. Gloria Vanderbilt was not exception. What she did to her children was horrific. The Biltmore House is where a lot of this took place.
You are mistaken. All this took place in New York City, where all of America's high society kept their huge mansions and held their parties. Biltmore, which is in Asheville North Carolina, wasn't even built until the late 1890s.
Freaky family their Biltmore house has such a pall over it I could hardly stand being inside it Every corner felt a presence of evil and great unhappiness yuk on all counts
@@cherylfauth9543 yes biltmore feels awful to me very large presence of sadness and negativity no love whatsoever I don't know why I'm not a psychic type I just wanted to leave as soon as possible
Arranged marriages have been around since biblical days. They're here now and they'll be around when your children are great-grand-parents. Adultery will also be around, that's just the nature of humans. 🤷♂️
Adultary is not something we should glibly accept. It’s bad for children, families, individuals and society. It’s also human nature or “animal” nature to want to kill, rob, take revenge etc. but we have the capacity for higher thinking and morality. That’s why animals can’t murder but people can. We recognize that taking a human life is morally wrong.
@amysill3815 You're mistaken dearie, there are many examples of animals murdering others of their same species to take control. Just one example: Lion's will slaughter a leader and all cubs to take over a pride. Try using Google.
The late and beautiful Princess Diana to Prince Charles was an arranged marriage by their grandmothers. She was in love with an idea of marriage based on romantic novels (Diana was obsessed with reading) and Charles for dynastic heir and spare reasons. It was not a true love marriage on either side. But Diana was jealous of his deep love for Camilla so could never play the aristocratic game of ....have the children then be free behind closed doors. For five years Diana was in love with her dashing army officer James Hewitt and everyone lived under that arrangement and the public didn't know. Ultimately, her romantic aspirations meant this was never going to last. Had she been able to exist in the old fashioned system ...then she'd probably be Queen now.
Too much money! Awful Mother! Woman were NOTHING in that era! Still fighting to be heard today! WOMAN! Do not let anyone rake away your independance or tell you what to do with your own body Years ago if woman were not married or engaged by 20, they were concidered old maids. Keep your Independence Girls, travel , enjoy a free life!
