This and That: 2023 All-Japan Figure Skating Championships (Shoma Uno, Kaori Sakamoto)

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This week, Shoma Uno and Kaori Sakamoto were victorious again at the 2023 All-Japan Figure Skating Championships. Yuma Kagiyama, Shut Sato, Sota Yamamoto, Kazuki Tomono, Kaori Miura, Mai Mihara, Mone Chiba, Hana Yoshida and Mao Shimada gave impressive showings. Marin Honda closed out her career after suffering from a hip injury the week of Nationals. Wakaba Higuchi made a comeback and is partially back in form. We break it all down on the latest edition of 'This and That'.
This and That: 2023 All-Japan Figure Skating Championships (Shoma Uno, Kaori Sakamoto)
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@ZZ-wo9qq 10 месяцев назад

So happy for Shoma the 6x national champion! It's pretty amazing that he hasn't missed a nationals and has been either gold or silver in the past 10 years.

@hnoor4989 10 месяцев назад

Men’s free skate final 6 was incredible to watch

@TheSkatingLesson 10 месяцев назад

💯

@cupcaketoo 10 месяцев назад

How did you watch it?

@vivsagworld246 10 месяцев назад

@@cupcaketooi was wondering the same thing

@lynnoliver2804 10 месяцев назад

I know!! I can't see one bit of anything. So harsh. I'm dying to watch either SP, FS, even the exhibition. NOOO nothing for me in VA, USA

@vivsagworld246 10 месяцев назад

@@lynnoliver2804 yup! i’m in MD 😔

@MarshaNovak 10 месяцев назад

Agree with Johnathan about Shoma’s emotive quality comes through his body/musicality

@TheSkatingLesson 10 месяцев назад

💯

@meganmorris5105 9 месяцев назад

Honestly, if you look closely, his eyes are always so intense, like he’s into it when he performs.

@TheDivayenta 10 месяцев назад

I adore Kaori- the knees, the power, the freedom- the solidity. The musicality! I never get nervous watching her- unlike the little teensy weensies !

@louisehancock324 10 месяцев назад

I love both of Kaori’s programs. She is challenging herself by having diverse programs. Her recent programs have expanded her artistry. The short program is light, airy and personal and her movements show that. Her long program is mature, sultry and represents the musical style of Nina Simone, the original artist. Also, my Mom wore those types of gloves and I love them.

@L.Spencer 10 месяцев назад

Mark Hanretty seems to love Hana Yoshida's short program. I didn't like it at first, because it's not my style, but now I love it. She really puts a lot of personality in.

@camillesyen 10 месяцев назад

It’s so Koo Koo Fun!!!❤

@hirota505 10 месяцев назад

I’m so glad that Jonathan is back. I agree every single word he says!

@TheSkatingLesson 10 месяцев назад

❤️

@tanyawade4954 10 месяцев назад

Call me shallow but I was watching Kaori in the Kiss and Cry and her eye shadow game was next level. She is packaged to the gods this year and I love to see it. Skating and looking like champion.

@kseniacoffman2 10 месяцев назад

Agree with Jonathan -- Kaori's Matrix program was my favorite as well. The concept matched Kaori's power and speed perfectly.

@meganmorris5105 10 месяцев назад

In answer to the height question, Marin is taller than Shoma. She’s 5’4”, and he’s 5’2”.

@JosedeJezeus 9 месяцев назад

😱

@sohlangan 10 месяцев назад

Switching from single to dance is not easy. That's why i salute Takahashi that made a comd back and tried Dance skate

@TheSkatingLesson 10 месяцев назад

💯

@miolinette6198 9 месяцев назад

Did you talk about Rena Uezono? She is 13 and this year is her junior debut season and she does excellent so far. She doesn't have 3A or quad jumps but her expressions are very good.

@Manli1208 10 месяцев назад

Concerning Alyssa’s comment on Shoma: his movement is so expressive and his face is so beautiful, he does not need to move his head!

@AnnFarrelly-c5d 9 месяцев назад

Agree, but he does move his head aswell

@meganmorris5105 9 месяцев назад

And he gets very into the music with his eyes.

@shiowchiao6079 9 месяцев назад

But Shoma is so boring in his program, always the same expected movements as Shoma does , never a deviation or something uniquely special.

@maryloureiff6489 10 месяцев назад

Merry Christmas, Dave and Jonathan! On what planet does Kao get the same PCS as Kazuki? And Kazuki was the only one of the 6 who did not get an assigment. Yuma got a 10 in performance, go figure.

@evanperilstein5308 10 месяцев назад

I can understand why Mie Hamada had Mao Shimada put the 4T in, even though it hasn't been consistent, because she just landed a beautiful one at the JGPF.

@glaznflip1501 10 месяцев назад

I agree with everything you said about Marin. Can you guys use your skating connections to try to talk some sense to her to do dance. She has so much to give to the sport still.

@bettybleu12 10 месяцев назад

What a nice early Christmas gift. Thanks Dave and Jonathan for your always astute commentary.

@TheSkatingLesson 10 месяцев назад

Our pleasure!

@zackwilson8701 10 месяцев назад

The judges at Japanese Nationals scored Kazuki lower in PCS than Kao and Sota... the decision to low-ball him was intentional. I think at this point we need to acknowledge that Mie Hamada is a genius with packaging despite her being a menace. Mone and Hana both have such cool programs and choreography and I can't help but root for them despite their inconsistency. My question with Mie Hamada skaters though is my same question about Eteri skaters, which is how long will they withstand her training methods before succumbing to injury? I worry a bit about Mao, too. I have a feeling Liza Tuktamysheva can restore her axel, beat Adelya, and be the top Russian woman. I think she could go toe to toe with Kaori for sure.

@corcovadomonkey 10 месяцев назад

Jonathan has never looked better. Happy holidays!

@andreagoldstein4070 10 месяцев назад

Instead of the quad toe, I thought Mao could do a 3A2T. Her 3A is pretty consistent.

@davidvolonte1645 10 месяцев назад

or 3A2A sequence!

@joeyartk 10 месяцев назад

Wakaba needs to either retire or commit herself 100 percent to training and trying to win every competition she can. No more just have fun and do my best attitude to avoid mental stress from the judging. Go 100 percent to win and let the judges take it from you if they can, not give it to them because you weren't prepared.

@anthonydolio8118 10 месяцев назад

Thanks guys. Merry Christmas and happy new year.

@TheSkatingLesson 10 месяцев назад

Happy holidays!

@MrChaseBlue 10 месяцев назад

Even if the Russian politicking did not pull for the men as much as the other disciplines, they still get a boost in scoring relative to the other skaters they place around even though many have atrocious programs and/or atrocious performance/interpretation skills. It just shows how bad their men are generally in competition. It doesn’t mean they don’t get a boost at all while skating Russian because they still do

@freedomlife3623 10 месяцев назад

Marin has her own YT channel. Shoma had his left skate broken week before the National.

@GaliadelaRosa 9 месяцев назад

Hi, how can i find Marin's channel?

@Karolyna5 9 месяцев назад

@@GaliadelaRosa it's hard to l1nk anything on yt... Try typing 本田姉妹やで or Honda sisters

@yunapon-r5l 8 месяцев назад

Shoma skated "Dancing On my own" in ice show

@lindaallison5338 10 месяцев назад

If anyone needs their posture sorted, it’s Sota. He drops all form in his set up for jumps. And the fist pump after landing is a bit much. Definitely think Kao was the right choice.

@Moretowers 10 месяцев назад

That's my issue with Sota's skating; he drops his arms in preparation for the jumps and takes what seems like a long time to set them up. It's quite a jarring interruption in the program. Agree that Kao Miura was the right choice.

@bobuddy3513 10 месяцев назад

Watch him clench his fists too. Really a bad look!

@evanperilstein5308 10 месяцев назад

@@bobuddy3513Yeah, I noticed the clenched fists.

@lynnoliver2804 10 месяцев назад

Thank you, thank you thank you Jonathan. I love you! So happy today without AS.

@sohlangan 10 месяцев назад

Japan's figure skating is so competitive. Most are having very nice artistry, thus, in order ro move up, they will need to improve on the technical scores. I don't see problem in addung difficult triple or even quads

@mayamae55 9 месяцев назад

1:20:00 Marin is in the roster for the Collegiate Games Jan 6,7. Will be streamed live on “FOD”. Actually about a third of the entries of the Women’s, about half of the Men’s, were qualifiers at the Nationals last week, including Yuma, Shun, Nozomu, Rino Matsuike, Mana, Rion, Rinka. There are several other skaters whom you didn’t get to see at the Nationals that unfortunately bombed at the Sectionals, definitely worth watching.

@mayamae55 9 месяцев назад

FYI Kaori w/d. She won the individual section last year and had a spot but since she’s the sole qualifier in her college team it didn’t make much sense to go for it- audio picked up a conversation between her and Coach Nakano at the K&C after the FS at Nationals, Kaori saying “So what’s next, Intercollegiate?” Nakano “No, the others should have it” the collegiate games are a huge festive event for the college teams and Kaori didn’t want to spoil it. Far from what’s happening in the swimming college events in the US.

@yohanes2034 9 месяцев назад

I love Mone Chiba but Dave comment about her jumps being strong is incorrect. She has UR problems and in junior she was barely rotated triples, hence why we didn't hear about her that much in Junior. She manages to get some consistency last season and then fell off again in this early season (after moving to Hamada). Her main strength is skating skills, deep edges, and transitions. I just hope that Hamada doesn't break her because she's special and I hope we can see her flourish in the future

@christinethorp3684 10 месяцев назад

I agree that Mao's short program doesn't really work. It's hard to keep in mind that she is still REALLY young, but that program lacks spark and the choreo seems "flat" in places. As far as Jia vs. Mao, I'm Team Jia. Her long program....soooo beautiful! I can't wait to see how both of them develop over the years.

@thebrothaj 10 месяцев назад

omg… not a shawn colvin “sunny came home” reference. j’adore.

@TheSkatingLesson 10 месяцев назад

❤️❤️

@saurabhvashist4051 10 месяцев назад

Apart from the pairs discipline, the absence of the Russians from international figure skating has been such a reprieve to the senses over the last two years. I fear their return specifically to the women's discipline will undo the entire potential development of the sport that has been made in say Belgium or Switzerland and other schools of learning/federations in Europe as we are again bamboozled with the Dani G programs coming off of a conveyor belt. And Kaori, who is awesome, probably should start working on a 3Axel if she hasn't already if she wants that gold medal in Milan.

@JeanGenie4 10 месяцев назад

There is no development of skating here in Europe. You refer to what is merely two young skaters - Pinzarrone and Repond - neither of whom are particularly enthralling at this point. Benoit is increasingly monopolising the choreography market in Europe with sub-standard material. The upcoming European women's event will also likely show a loss in viewership by about 90% since 2022's event.

@cupcaketoo 10 месяцев назад

"Go a little bit Deanna" is Dave's Christmas present to me!

@yunapon-r5l 8 месяцев назад

Marin Honda's free program herb

@johnl405 10 месяцев назад

Why are we still talking quads, when it seems almost proven that they are only achievable in prepubescent girls (or those on puberty blockers), and some special mix of trimetazadine, Xenon gas, and of course good old severe calorie restriction. Even a triple axel (even) is such a rare bird of an element. Even completely rotated triple triples are hard to find as well. Though I never understood the biomechanics of having no quarter turn twist of the back or ankle, unless you have rigid rod of a spine. I think the physical limits of women's skating has been reached.

@camillesyen 10 месяцев назад

Love Hana’s short, it’s so Koo Koo Fun!!❤❤❤

@papillon5839 10 месяцев назад

42:50 listen, most of the current men are quite "new" seniors, the people you talk about had 5+ years to build their personality and popularity, none of them had that after 1 or 2 years into their senior career. Yuzuru was quite a "nobody" at the Sochi Olympics and it was already his 4th senior season. The stars back then were Patrick Chan and Daisuke Takahashi, who were veterans by then.

@jiejie8555 10 месяцев назад

Truly, the non skating fs twitter community drives me nuts

@dkeinow 9 месяцев назад

35:00 ish thank you Jonathan for asking the question I had in mind since the 2022-2023 season

@wedamon 10 месяцев назад

OMG I love that - “jump from technique and self belief” 🙌🙌 1:00:11

@bobuddy3513 10 месяцев назад

No matter how hard you guys try to get Marin to do something in competitive skating, at this point, she is not an athlete. She is an entertainer and has been for quite a while. She has zero interest in the rigors of training. Sounds like she has given her flight attendant dream up (maybe she was saying that just for her JAL sponsor?). She is now saying she wants to be an actress.

@JosedeJezeus 9 месяцев назад

She a true artist, not a working dog.

@meganmorris5105 9 месяцев назад

I think she could be a good actress. She was great in One Piece On Ice.

@joeyartk 10 месяцев назад

The JSF obviously wants to bury Higuchi before the next Olympics. And Higuchi makes it easy for them by taking her time easing back into form. She is permanently mentally scarred from her first Olympic year experience and her lack of support from the Fed.

@matthewhines9787 10 месяцев назад

Wow...Galina just lost any respect I had for her. Meanwhile, I think Paul just beat Viktor at...life.

@rachelheller1396 10 месяцев назад

Merry Christmas, Guys! Also, Have a great New Year!😊

@TheSkatingLesson 10 месяцев назад

Happy new year

@evanperilstein5308 10 месяцев назад

Mone Chibe's a beautiful skater with neat, tidy skating and great spins, but I think she could skate faster and bigger. I watched her free skate a couple of times and both times she appeared a bit slow.

@S80-r1o 10 месяцев назад

I think the boring music doesn’t help

@evanperilstein5308 10 месяцев назад

@@S80-r1oI agree that the music is boring and goes nowhere.

@yohanes2034 9 месяцев назад

Money is one of the new senior that I notice has really good edge work. Like her SP stsq schindler list last season was so good and constructed really well. The previous 2 seasons was even better

@seashellez 10 месяцев назад

Gabi and Gui should announce their return after Montreal world’s rhythm dance.

@christinethorp3684 10 месяцев назад

Hahahaha....that would be so chaotic! I don't think they'd do it then, but it's fun to imagine. It would be like putting the others on notice...enjoy your world medals this year, because they're all about to drop one place!

@yishu2336 10 месяцев назад

I think Marin’s brother is getting a normal job in some company. And her younger sister Sara is no longer skating.

@kathrynmogavero5680 10 месяцев назад

Her sister Mayu skated with Marin, Shoma, Kazuki and Koshiro in One Piece On Ice last summer; hope JSF will sponsor another show next year.

@meganmorris5105 9 месяцев назад

I hope so! That show showed they all have acting chops, and I saw a side of Shoma I never knew existed. He was really bright and exuberant as Luffy. I loved it. I hope there’s a recording somewhere.

@EmaAgafitei 10 месяцев назад

So, Japanese girls are a delight to watch, but most of them are not at all given the time of day to develop as a personality. Like good choreography and solid jumps mostly, nice presentation but then you feel you watch pretty butterflies on repeat. They do not rewards girls that are out of the box, except Kaori. Mai Mihara is one of May favorites, but nationally, is never rewarded. Mai had a solid season start last year, medalled at the Grand Prix and so on. She could have been their solid second violin. But they choose a copy of a copy of a copy. There is also the quad girl and 3A girl, but does not make an impact on me as an outsider. The issue with the Korean ladies is the same, they have the same package and PR, like they all want the stars to align and create another Yuna Kim. Which is a shame, they have so so much potential, Haein is so spubky, Young You so lirical, but they benefit from the same ballet princess treatment. The Junior two times silver medalist in junior that they have does the same, from what I know. What good is solid, technique, artistry and so much training and pressure if the result is just the same. Ballet Princess does not work for everyone. As for Russia's comeback does not excite me at all. In the sense that I do not wish to see 140 cm children struggling to jump the qauds while being emaciated and frightened. Like, Petrosyan's quads never looked okay, Trusova, Valieva and even Scherbakova's quads lookes good or half good at times. But not with Petrosyan. Poor Muravyeva is lost in the space and loses her momentum when she does not have best programs. Tuktamisheva, if she ever comes back, looks the best for me, if she keeps her relatively consistent 3A, ok triples and occasional Quad attempts off competition. Valieva is done for even if she could have pushed it past 18 with a better coaching situation, sans abuse and the suspension that it to come.

@Jeremy-wp4yh 10 месяцев назад

Merry Christmas 🎄

@Moretowers 10 месяцев назад

I'm surprised you guys are predicting that Russian skaters would be back in int'l competition. It does not seem that it's likely at all. But it would be interesting to see them attempting to claw back Euros and Worlds quotas; that would be the intriguing part. They are unlikely to return to 3-quota status in mens' and dance any time soon.

@TheSkatingLesson 10 месяцев назад

I will have to discuss this more. Theoretically, they would have to fight for one quota and earn more back.

@Moretowers 10 месяцев назад

@@TheSkatingLesson If by "to fight for one quota" you mean getting unbanned by the ISU, then yes, that's definitely the hard part. But after the lifting of the ban, getting one person to Euros/Worlds is easy; one just need the tech minimums which are easy to obtain at Challengers or other events early in the season.

@evanperilstein5308 10 месяцев назад

I'm not impressed with the current crop of Eteri girls. As the kids say, they're very mid. If they're still doping and this is how they're skating, then that's just sad. If I want to be even harsher, I'd say pathetic.

@seashellez 10 месяцев назад

Merry Christmas 🎄🎁

@evanperilstein5308 10 месяцев назад

Does Jonathan have covid? I had covid for the first time in November and then had covid rebound after taking Paxlovid. I hope he feels better soon.

@emilymclane5965 10 месяцев назад

I love that Marin’s skating club is Japan Airlines according to Wikipedia. What would the usfs be like if skaters were listed by sponsor instead of club?

@emilymclane5965 10 месяцев назад

How do I watch from the US? Do I use VPN with RU-vid? search on RU-vid for the skaters individually with their Japanese names?

@TheSkatingLesson 10 месяцев назад

www.sport1tv.ru/sport/chempionat-rossii-po-figurnomu-kataniyu-2024/korotkaya-programma

@emilymclane5965 9 месяцев назад

@@TheSkatingLesson this is amazing! Thank you!!!

@sandymarchetti3229 10 месяцев назад

Sota’s posture and his bent legs in the jumps is just…unfortunate.

@emilymclane5965 10 месяцев назад

According to Wikipedia, Marin is 1.5 inches taller 😢

@lindaallison5338 10 месяцев назад

What a gift! This and that already! ❤ Merry Christmas from Oz, where it’s already Christmas night.

@seashellez 10 месяцев назад

Marin Honda should do solo dance.

@camillesyen 10 месяцев назад

How do I watch the Japanese championships?

@TheSkatingLesson 9 месяцев назад

Which discipline?

@user-jy8zb2wc8l 10 месяцев назад

What did Alissa say about Shoma? I'm too lazy to try search back!

@christinethorp3684 10 месяцев назад

She said that she doesn't feel anything when she watches him. But later admitted that his skating is pretty much perfect.

@papillon5839 10 месяцев назад

@@christinethorp3684 perfect is boring. Shoma has that one angry look on his face and some over the top things that is called "artistry", it just looks fake to me. I prefer flawed skaters with raw energy who can still improve, but at least they are them, it´s them you see performing. This is still a sport, not theater with bad actors

@camillesyen 10 месяцев назад

Shoma is beautiful, nobody expresses himself with his whole body like he does. There is no disconnect between his upper body to his lower body, he is moving as one complete unit. Just beautiful! Magnifique!!❤❤❤

@shiowchiao6079 9 месяцев назад

It's just same Shoma after Shoma , too predictable, and boring.@@camillesyen

@jennifer5512 10 месяцев назад

Happy Holidays, Dave and Jonathan! Loved this discussion as always and also loved your take on the silly Fanyu crossover BS. What will they make up next? I loved your discussion about what makes great skating. We shouldn't discuss it like basketball statistics.

@SecondPlaceYuya 10 месяцев назад

More than three crossovers consecutively stand out negatively like a sore thumb in 2023. It's not the quantity, its replacing crossovers with something meaningful AND that generates power. But too many crossovers is always bad looking.

@S80-r1o 10 месяцев назад

Mone Chiba’s FS was a giant boring snooze, Rena Uezono was the best in that group

@joeyartk 10 месяцев назад

The overscoring of Sakamoto is out of control. Chiba skated cleaner to a harder program and finished 13 points behind in the LP. Completely ridiculous.

@evanperilstein5308 10 месяцев назад

I think it's also pretty apparent, even from watching her on tv, that Mone Chibe skates a lot slower than Kaori and her jumps are nowhere near as big. Kaori's jumps are huge and she does everything with a lot of speed, which translates to higher GOE.

@MrChaseBlue 10 месяцев назад

Mone Chiba is prone to URs and have small jumps. She also had a terrible GP season. That’s how figure skating scoring goes

@hbattagl 10 месяцев назад

Kaori’s speed, sizes of jumps and skating skills give her exceptionally high GOEs and PCS, I think. Her 2A’s exit speed that I I saw once was 21km/h (Hanyu and Shoma had something like 13-18km/h) and this time her 2A distance, 3.65m, was the largest among both men’s and women’s (Men’s largest one was Kao’s 3A that was 3.1m. )

@joeyartk 10 месяцев назад

@@hbattaglThis isn't speed skating. Having good speed is a positive, but it's never been a huge factor in scoring. The same thing goes with length of jump. Especially with 2As, height has always been the bigger positive factor than length.

@joeyartk 10 месяцев назад

@@evanperilstein5308I'm not saying Kaori should not necessarily get higher PCS and GOE than Mone. I'm saying the scale is way overblown. As Rafael Artuniyan said, it should be +1-1 scale for GOE. The +5 scale gives the judges too much power to manipulate scoring, which they already have too much of. That competition should have been close and Sakamoto should have been under pressure instead of a walk in the park. Aside from that, Kaori was not called on her obvious wrong edge takeoffs on her lutz, and her takeoff form on her pick jumps is terribly cheated and should result in lower GOE.

@mayamae55 10 месяцев назад

I love you guys but you’re spending most of the stream talking about the Russians👎 I wished you’d gone through the women’s performances instead.

@stsin7 10 месяцев назад

Because when they are back they will sweep the podiums again, everyone should anticipate that. It’s a fact whether you like it or not.

@evanperilstein5308 10 месяцев назад

@@stsin7They can’t sweep the podiums when they’ll only be allotted one slot per discipline! 😂

@stsin7 10 месяцев назад

@@evanperilstein5308 I was talking about the Olympics and after.

@kiranbade2137 10 месяцев назад

@@stsin7does russia even has three 17+ elite skaters with consistent quads to send to sweep these podium babe... oh wait either they are injured or can't compete because of doping

@stsin7 10 месяцев назад

@@kiranbade2137 you call your mom - babe, damass

@Boymanjusri 10 месяцев назад

Mone Shiba is a younger version of Marin Honda. Her jumps aree small and prone to UR and she will fade away quickly when she put up some weight and when her body grows. Wakaba is past tense. Hana Yoshina is the only Japanese woman with good quality jumps. Mao shimada has great techniques , but her jumps are not that big either.

@kiranbade2137 10 месяцев назад

Mone chiba is already 18 and has a sustainable jump technique that relies on her muscle mass and not cheated takeoff and being underweight so she will be fine don't worry she is just starting at the age of 18 and not retiring with career ending injuries at 17😊

@Boymanjusri 10 месяцев назад

@@kiranbade2137I am big fan of her in fact: i like her skating, I prefer her style. I wish her success.

@primalcritters 10 месяцев назад

Merry Christmas! Happy holidays. Happy belated Hanukkah. Wish you would cover Russian nationals. Valieva was divine. She admitted that her extra weight held her down a bit. She will lose it and get back in top form but even at her worst she's still the most beautiful to watch. Prima ballerina, rhythmic gymnast, and modern dancer on ice

@TheSkatingLesson 10 месяцев назад

I will be covering it.

@S80-r1o 10 месяцев назад

She looked terrible be so fr, sinitsyna deserved that medal

@flywings111 10 месяцев назад

For some reason I'm not interested in Japanese skating anymore. From the men only Kao is charismatic though he has some other issues. Kagiyama is so bland, same with Shoma an the others. I miss characters like Yuzu or even Dai. In the women's as much as I like Kaori I am bored by her, too. The new skaters aren't exciting either. Wakaba is not back to her previous shape. Maybe Kaori will become 3x World champion like Mao but she will never come close to her popularity. Same in the men's field, no one will be a new Yuzuru.

@daphenaxa 10 месяцев назад

I dont really get the excitement of the Russians coming back "for the story". Whoever they send in pairs will win euros and worlds and bring them 3 spots again to absolutely dominate. Petrosian would also win against Kaori with no problem even if she falls on a quad. They have some terrible men who can land some quads and be consistent top 10-top 5 subjecting us to have to watch them often. The judges will give them scores exactly like before and no one especially not Eteri will face any backlash. I don't find that particularly exciting prospect. 🥱

@Chastaken 10 месяцев назад

If Petrosyan is their only hope it looks bad. She is not that strong or consistent and she is 140 cm tall and underrotate most of her quads already. When she grow up a little in the next months it will be over for her.

@Moretowers 10 месяцев назад

Sofia Muravieva has a 3A while Ksenia Sinitsina has good skating skills, solid triples, and nice presentation; they would score well internationally. Top 6 women at the RU nationals showed decent quality overall. May not be sufficient to beat Kaori Sakamoto, but would be competitive with other skaters. The women at the Japanese nationals were not that impressive as a group, especially relative to the men's competition.

@lauraxxx6412 10 месяцев назад

I agree that Muravieva and Sinitsyna would score well internationally because they have good quality overall. Also, the Russian girl who will be sent at Worlds (if the Russians will be back) can get 3 spots for the following year getting gold or silver. So, they don't have to beat Kaori.