This budget CPU doesn't know it's a budget CPU! 

Well yeah it is, the joke should be more like this i7 7700k "wait i'm a high end cpu?" Intel: "yes, why?" i7 7700k: "are you *sure*?"

So is my 8700k..wanted to sell it to get a 3000series ryzen ,but no one is willing to pay more then 150bucks for it... i can understand that.. but its a pain

@@gizzmo722 il pay you 180 for it

my 6700K 😆RIP!

in the netherlands my CPU i7 4790K still goes voor 200-250 euro's at times might just sell this chip to jump ship on time

good things take time. let's hope in a few years time we see 'budget AMD gpu beat nvidia 2080ti"

They have for the low end for sure. 4 years ago I had a 750ti which costed me 130 USD and a year ago I got an RX 570 for 110 USD despite 3 years passing. The 570 is twice the performance of the 750ti so there has been change for sure.

They already have in the mid-range. Because of 5700 and 5700xt nvidia announced their their "super" lineup to bring the competition in line with them. And once AMD announced 5600xt for 279, Nvidia dropped the RTX 2060 from 349 to 299 (effectively killing their whole 1660Ti lineup of cards)

Nvidia is not as stupid as intel tho

@@lamboronald489 Its not just about smart/stupid, there is a reason we only have 2 companies for cpu or gpu worldwide... I know there are more companies making gpu and cpu, but they are not even close to what amd was in "the dark days" before ryzen as far as performance is concerned. This includes Intel (integrated) gpu

But why in pre build PCs, which is what most consumers buy, Intel still dominates? On pre build PC, AMD is still very fringe. Seems AMD only dominating the much smaller enthusiasts PC build market.

@@Baffuteagle because the overwhelming majority of people buying pre built PCs don't have a clue about components nor do they want to spend any amount of time learning about any of that. That's the reason they buy a pre built PC. They want to tell a salesman what they want to run on it and hope the salesman tells them "this can run that". Also since people who would even consider buying a pre built PC usually buy one every 15 to 20 years Intel's dominance from the early days (which very much used to be a thing back then) still lingers. TLDR: Nobody who knows anything about components buys a pre built PC.

until AMD dominates the market haha

@@TP4554 Not the case always. My Friend whom researched these parts for very long and wanted to a nice PC gave me the Specs he wanted and I built it for him[with an extra fee of course] because he did not have the time for building and setting up a PC. I did it for him. Now, can you say it was a prebuilt? technically yeah, It was built by me for my friend so a custom pre-built.

@@TP4554 my dad doesn't want to know anything about those parts, but he asked me to get him a laptop. I took the fastest laptop i could find for 500 euros and i ended up with an AMD ryzen 5 3500U 8gb of ram, and a 512gb SSD. given that his previous laptop was an AMD A6 of 6 years old, he was impressed with the speed.

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Wait for big navi

@@dundun9731 I think we need another company besides Nividia, AMD, and intel making GPU's and CPUs wish we had more options.

@@opgaquatics5609 There's been rumors of Huawei getting into GPU development.

@@Alorand they already make their own CPUs, just only for mobile devices for now.

Facts 😂🙌✌

W

I read your comment in the voice of Homer 🍩

Better meme. AMD: you're a budget cpu. 3300x: who decided that??

More like "Yes, but no"

Yeah and its still evolving and improving... Time is fast...

More of, a competitive market feels good.

I understand why i7 or r7 are overkill now, Earlier i underestimated the power of my i5 9400, I thought it would go to its knees paird with an rtx 2060 super, turns out it handles an rtx 3080 like a champ, little bottleneck tho

Eren Kotan he means TSX instructions

@@veemyu Cinebench does not support TSX as far as I know. The only consumer program that I can find that actually supports it is RPCS3 (a Playstation 3 emulator) and there is a reference on Microsoft's website on how to disable TSX in Windows. Jay more than likely did mean to say AVX (it is one of the improvements of Cinebench R20 over R15) and I was surprised to hear him mention that AMD does not support it (they do). Jay even mentions it again in the 3D mark portion of the video... :|

@@emu071981 Yes, this was just him being misinformed.

@@veemyu No he said AVX and he meant it, which is a bit scary. If you listen on to 10:04 he doubles down on his lack of understanding about which chip supports which instructions

I believe AMD has had AVX since FX CPUs if I'm correct.

Can't believe he missed that.

This is what I was going to say, I always like watching Jay's videos to see what he messes up lol, love your work Jay, but yeah, sometimes you miss the technical stuff...

Not AVX512

@@valyushalee2320 Cinebench R20 only uses AVX2, which Zen2 supports at full rate.

Patrick Shelley it’s just because it was a change in zen2, prob just got confused from how zen1 worked.

Don't forget 3300X also crashed the entire secondhand Intel CPU market from Core i3 to Core i7

@@ClayWheeler With no survivors.

Intel has budget CPUs?

@@Cruiser323 LMAO

@@ClayWheelercrashed 7700k 8600k and 9100kf and 10100 and no survivors remajned

I am pretty sure, he meant to say: Evious.

I think Jay dropped a core dump at that moment.

My brain got melted as well

I mean, if this tech review thing doesn't work out anymore, he could become a conlang youtuber.

@@asdf51501 It's not a core dump ..... It's a kernel panic, didn't you see his eyes get large!! hehehehehehe

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

TDP = *thermal* design power, so lower TDP = running cooler. just FYI :D but yeah they do have lower power consumption.

Intel is for their FANS Intel fans can gee a "I LOVE 14 NANO" tattoo, and not worry about intel changing it for the rest of their life

What is the price of amd 3300x bro pls tell me

Jim R You have a fundamental misunderstanding of the whole nanometers thing. Intels process is not necessarily larger than AMDs.

probably sounded funnier in ur head

@F u c o But sarcasm

Some things do sound funnier in your head and thats funny. I get you bro.🤙

@F u c o thats what I thought

@@robinsonxiang8169 the usual braindead kid who has no comeback and just replies with ok, what can you do against those low iq kids

I wasn't the only person to catch this. Thanks for pointing it out!

@@hughjazz44 You're welcome!

To clarify, the idea that Ryzen "doesn't support AVX" comes from the fact that Intel CPUs use two 128-bit AVX execution units per core, allowing two 128-bit AVX instructions or one 256-bit AVX instructions to be executed in a single cycle, while Zen and Zen+ only have a single execution unit, allowing only a single 128-bit AVX instruction per cycle and requiring 256-bit instructions to be broken in half and completed over two cycles. Zen 2 CPUs don't have this problem, they have dual AVX units per core. AMD also have no CPUs on the market with AVX-512 support, while Intel only implements it in Xeon and X-series parts, mostly because it's use is extremely specialised due to it's enormous memory bandwidth requirements and power draw.

It's not called AVX-128 (and not correct technically either, AVX uses 256 already) and not AVX-256 but rather AVX and AVX2. But DAAMN, Jay not knowing shit about a (nowadays) basic instruction being able to be used by AMD-CPUs since Bulldozer (AVX2 then by Excavator) is embarassing. Even more so since it was even talked about recently with the news with the Matlab/Intel MKL-Bullshit with Intel shutting down AVX-use by non-Intel-processors.

1: Apr 9, 2019 -" Under the hood, the R20 engine supports AVX, AVX2, and AVX512 instruction sets."

I was looking for this comment. I’ve been running code that’s highly AVX dependent on AMD chips (ryzen, opteron and epyc) and the research I had done showed AVX was present. Furthermore, the performance scaled as expected between different AVX instruction sets. I was surprised when Jay mentioned “no AVX on AMD”.

Yep, AMD is only missing AVX-512.

I was also looking for this comment. I actually scrolled 2 times back in the Video to make sure i got right what he claimed is missing on ryzen :D .

Yeah, I can't believe he missed that.

Came here to add this. AVX supported since Bulldozer. AVX2 since Excavator.

For real everything is going out of stock 😂

Literally non existent right now huh!

Mackieinc 89 For real I can’t find a 3300X literally ANYWHERE heck even reselling sites for used parts don’t even have them

@@sunspot5 dude just use newegg everything is in stock lmao

@@gkgames7589 The 3300X isn’t in stock

-Revenant 104

Can't dissagree with that logic.

amen

Agreed....but the case here is win-win Less money + better performance

Bill gates eyes are *special*

the difference between having an engineer as CEO vs having a sells-man as CEO

@@wabachi yeah I mean Zen sounds cool. But not as cool as Bulldozer... from a marketing point of view... Bulldozer was a better strategy but the product sucked haha

I built my first gaming rig on the 860k dual core Falsely marketed as a quad. I had it at 4.3ghz 1.33volts. It died in two years lol, But it did the job for L4d and Minecraft. The 750 paired perfectly.

As much as I wish AMD was at the top, they’re not. Maybe by performance per dollar, but their market share is still low. I don’t see AMD being on top until they can really get people to buy their products more than Intel, and increasing the market share to almost a 50/50 between the two companies.

AMD is not way ahead of Intel. Only some AMD chips can outperform some Intel chips in multi-core performance. AMD still cannot make a better gaming chip compared to Intel. Intel makes better Laptop chips and Intel outperforms AMD for servers and enterprise business. In reality, Intel is ahead of AMD in totality of what both companies offer to the market.

Check 8:40 also, Jayz obviously made a mistake there

I got it from AMD, jay, bitwit, Linus, and Toasty bros

Same

NDA my guy :) pre-recorded and schedueled release when it lifts.

@@Aurienx I wondered how they all uploaded in the same minute.

@@CptKenny RU-vid let's you schedule listings. Assumption is the 9AM EST was set as the "can be uploaded" by AMD.

ditched my 4790k for a 3600x, well worth it and still cheaper than upgrading to a new intel platform.

i love am4. if your vrm's are enough, you can go from a 2 core to a 16 core processor in one motherboard 🤣

@@digitalbarrito3555 same but I got the 3900x, couldn't be happier

@@digitalbarrito3555 How much faster is it?

chaos It’ll be the best decision you’ll make.

For now that's definitely the case, if we ever get into a rut where one company stops competing, it will go back to an even split in budget. We're seeing the same thing that happened with CPUs in 2015-2016 start to happen now with GPUs

ultimate value build is now 3300x and 2060ko. last time low end amd and upper-midrange nvidia was the price:performance king was when bfg went out of business and sold off their old inventory at a loss so people built athlon II x2 245/8800GTS rigs for $300

that will change when the next gen console will come out and the games that will be optimized for the newer gen consoles meaning devs will utilize alot of the hardware on the console that will have 8 cores, soo you see where im coming from, thats why i went with a safe cpu build of 8 cores

@@realghostxd I wouldn't be so sure. ps3 had a load of cores and it didn't change anything.

​@@realghostxd possibly, but you will have already bought the motherboard/ram and will only need to drop a higher core count cpu into the socket when it becomes affordable - AMD are quite good at compatibility between generations.

he repeats the same misinformation again at 10:04 It's becoming clear that he doesn't know what he's talking about :-(

@@auturgicflosculator2183 Hi John, I think your information is a bit outdated and innaccurate. First Intel. Only some of Intel's lineup support AVX512. For example, none of the 10th Gen Desktop chips support AVX 512, this include things like their "flagship" Core-i9 10900K. With mobile chips, only some of them support AVX512, and many don't. In addition, Intel disable AVX and AVX2 on all their Celeron and Pentium chips, even the latest 10th gen chips. AMD on the other hand never disable AVX/AVX2 on their budget chips. Now AMD. AMD chips do not support AVX512 yet (although it's rumored to be coming before the end of the year). The first and second gen Ryzen (Zen 1 and Zen 1+) chips did support all the 256bit AVX2 instructions, but did so at half speed. All of the more recent Ryzen chips (Zen 2), anything released after June 2019, do in fact, run the 256bit AVX2 instructions at full speed. You don't need to believe me, try reading a review of the 3800X from almost a year ago: www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-7-3800x-review,6226-10.html I'll quote: "We can also see the vast improvement in Ryzen's AVX performance in the y-cruncher tests: We would never have imagined such a massive generational leap, particularly in single-threaded performance. The work AMD has done here is truly impressive and benefits a wide range of professional applications." or try another review: www.anandtech.com/show/14605/the-and-ryzen-3700x-3900x-review-raising-the-bar/2 where they say: "there’s one obvious new chance in the 3900X and Zen2: the inclusion of 256-bit wide datapaths. The new AGU and path changes mean that the core is able to now handle 256-bit AVX instruction once per cycle which is a doubling over the 128-bit datapaths of Zen and Zen+." Lastly, did you see JayzTwoCents latest video, he admits that he made a mistake about this.

@@richretrochan haha, I think you scared John away. One minor correction; Intel's 10th gen Ice Lake parts support a subset of the AVX 512 instruction set, but you're right about not seeing it in mainstream desktop CPUs.

@@richretrochan I doubt that AMD will introduce AVX-512. Support for those instructions requires extra space on a die, inevitably causes overheating and, ultimately, is not used anywhere outside server usage. Linus Torvalds had a huge rant about AVX-512, and one of former Intel engineers supported him as well.

Fly RGB adds Extra frames confirmed

THE STARS HAVE ALIGNED

Fly *Knock knock* FBI OPEN UP!

Mind= blown 😂

Who remembers when AMD use to be green?

Considering used computer pricing these days, it might be worth selling now. I've seen fx6300 systems go for 900 (basically new parts cost). Bad time to build tho

people are selling 7700K on Ebay for 250-300 USD. I think you can sell yours for the price of 3300X+B450

@@katech6020 they're trying, I doubt they're getting it

@@katech6020 plus 16gb ram kit also (120+70+75=265 🤣)

Noice choice o/

Sempron :P

Does Timespy favor Intel now though? And when you say "favors Intel" do you mean the code is optimized towards Intel or Intel CPU's are winning simply because they run at a higher frequency? You didn't specify a specific Intel CPU so it feels like you are implying some bias in the code (which may or may not be true). So it feels like the best way to test this would be to have a modern representative from both Intel and AMD run at the same frequency. Say, 4.0GHz... Either way, I tried to Google for comparisons of the AMD Ryzen 3000 series and Intel's 9000/10000 series and i found evidence that the scores are similar but I couldn't find any reliable links... I can't find ANY evidence that Timespy currently favors Intel simply because of architecture.

@@photonboy999 Pretty sure it's the cpu optimizations. I can't now find the youtube video about when zen was released, but on quake2 if you compiled the renderer with amdnow! support (that was dropped from amd cpus like a decade ago), 1700X was actually faster on his youtube comparison than the optimized intel in the game - which was kinda weird that and old amdnow! code would still work in anyway good. It just tells me that there are many ways of optimizing your speed and lets be honest here, AMD is the underdog in both CPU and GPU, when it comes to software optimizations by 3rd parties. Hell even Microsoft managed to show how bad the OS is for anything that isn't a Intel CPU clone that got patched up by many times on Win10 already. Nvidia has less raw power on most rendering when it comes to the similar gpu prices head to head, while still wrecks amd gpu's, until the later aka mysterious "fine wine" tech appears.

@@photonboy999 I don't really know if it does or doesn't, but I've seen plenty of CPU reviews which show the Ryzen chip beating the comparable Intel chip in Firestrike, then losing in Timespy, so just assumed Jay was talking about Timespy when he just said 3DMark. I don't know if that's actually a consistent thing, or what the reason might be. It could be Intel optimizations, or it could be Timespy being more sensitive to memory and cache latency.

What we need to see is an AVX-512 benchmark to see how it ACTUALLY performs. And more game benchmarks. By the looks of it Intel still has the better latency which is why even though slower in cinebench, it did better in 2/3 of the games (the 3rd being AMD optimized for consoles)

None of the Intel mainstream desktop CPUs prior to Ice Lake had AVX-512 either so this is a non-issue for this comparison. This includes the upcoming 10th gen Comet Lake CPUs...

I think he means TSX instructions those are present on the 7700K and exclusive to Intel. AVX 512 isn’t even on the 10900K

@@veemyu He said AVX two times, they didn't catch it in editing and I couldn't find anything about Cinebench using TSX-NI. So... Nah, he didn't mean TSX I'd say. It was pure incompetence this time, which is surprising.

you mean poor man? /s

Wow we got us a intel fanboy. Just because some people prefer to build on a budget instead of way over paying for computer parts doesn't mean their poor

Pfft you clicc i slapp

@@F4llen4ngel130 /s means he's being sarcastic

man of culture as well

And eyes!

And my axe

And my money

And my spear

And my CPU!

Excited for Zen 3? Sure, but if I were you I might be more excited with the fact that games are getting better THREADED as time goes on and that the 2020 consoles will accelerate these code changes for newer games... in some games you will currently have a CPU BOTTLENECK despite using, say, only 2/3rds of your CPU processing power. So in the future there are two main ways YOU will see better performance assuming the game is CPU bottlenecked (not graphics or storage)-> #1) you bought a CPU with same or more cores that is faster per core (like R5-4600), or #2) the game utilizes your existing CPU cores better That won't help existing games if you have a CPU bottleneck and want higher FPS but if your goal is to achieve a good FPS in a 2022 game for example, then by then the issue may simply solve itself with better coding.

@@photonboy999 TO BE FAIR, current consoles are 8 cores. GRANTED, 8 "slow" cores, but still 8 cores. The multi-threaded workloads are there. New consoles are continuing that trend. The real kick is the single core performance, on all 8 cores, plus the much faster gpu. EVEN WITH utilizing 8 cores NOW on cross-platform games (COD, COD Warzone, Apex Legends) 6 core cpu's still hold firm. In that regards, an 8 core might show 20-30% utilization, while a 6 core will show 50-70% utilization. obviously a 4 core 8 thread might struggle depending on age with minor stutters (thinking to Dr Disrespect with his 4 core 8 thread intel gaming rig, it stutters in cod because it does in fact want more cores). Even when the new consoles come, we still wont see huge changes. Consoles never fully utilize its own hardware these days. Otherwise cross-play games would be using more like 80-90% utilization on all 8 cores. I have tested COD Warzone on an AMD 8350 which many will claim "isn't a true 8 core" and yet it runs great, no stutters, and the utilization is nowhere near 100% on every core.... and the reason i bring that up, is that the current consoles are "jaguar cores" which are "slightly" newer than the 8350 "Piledriver", so if consoles were using all 8 cores at a high load %, then the same should be said for an 8350, and it doesn't happen. Its only about half, 55% ish load on all 8 cores. Still more than say a ryzen 1800x which barely see's 20% load on a handful of cores..... but still.

I heard from somewhere that zen 3 will only be supported by X570 and B550 motherboards

Is the ryzen 5 2600 enough for all games

@@blake4454 yup. you'll be fine.

even more so with the athelon 3000g 45 quid here in the UK i got one recently for a super budget A320 mobo 8 gig3200 ram, no GPU rig running minecraft, roblox, fortnite for my son and it performs out of the box with stock cooler so well, budget option now are so good thanks to Zen architecture. Intel have alot to do.

@@wapuh6371 nice good find sounds like a good deal :-) for what i needed tho the athelon just ticked the box might get a pcie powered card for it later but it will do for :-)

Yeah, he's mixing up regular AVX with AVX-512 instructions which isn't even used by Cinebench

You are confused. Intel supports up to AVX 512. AMD supports only AVX 128.

The brain

90s brain striking, when 16mb was more than enough to run win95

Lmao how did you notice it xd EVEN THE VIDEO EDITOR DIDNT NOTICE IT LMAOOOO

Damn same didn't even realise

LUL BRO rly nice pick I didn't even notice even after u posted... Had to go back again hahahahaha

gaming

budgam geting

video seo so google knows whats going on i guess

Nvidia is just pulling the same crap that Intel did for years and years with no real competition from AMD. The consumer has to put the slap down on practices like that by just refusing to buy bloated $$ GPUs. Problem is, both camps are experiencing GPU price hikes right now. Everyone needs to stop buying new GPUs right now. Buy used!! :D

You also have to keep in mind that china was tariffed not that long ago. Prior to tariffs passing, I figured prices in America would rise. PC gaming has seemingly been on the rise the past four years as well. So, in combination with demand and tariffs it's not surprising that we see the prices that we do today.

How did you even catch that hahaha

Budget gaming

I agree, but I think is goal was to have the shortest intro ever I've seen on a youtube video. Straight to the point, 2 words : *budget gaming* lol

Never compare Intel and AMD's clock speeds, AMD has much more IPC so AMD's 4.3 GHz is equal to Intel's 5.0 Ghz

Zen and Zen+ has four 128-bit floating point execution units. Two for adding, two for multiplying. To handle 256-bit AVX2 instructions, they had to combine them, resulting in one adder and one multiplier. Intel has two 256-bit floating point units, each capable of either addition or multiplication. That gave Intel an advantage with AVX2. Zen 2 increased the width of the floating point units to 256 bits, so it no longer has to combine them for AVX2. Intel has no AVX or AVX2 advantage against Zen 2

To quote Simon Whistler: 'Capitalism is great, but lets try not to be assholes about it'. Time to wake up Intel

"socialist" and "Communist" countries have free markets these days... No such thing as a pure capitalist economy either.

@@probablynotabigtoe9407 lol

@Truth Projection He isn't wrong. There are several socialist aspects of the US economy. As much as people don't or can't admit to it, it is not a pure capitalist setup. Just so you know ;P.

@@Terrobility what is a "nordic model" you mean 40% income taxes? no thanks.

Only if amd can get their shit together with GPUs, otherwise Nvidia's just going to keep dominating the market.

@@mobilePCreviews 5700xt and 5600xt is pretty good tb

I can't run 2015 Witcher 3 150fps in my $500 pc though

@@xxWidex I can get pretty close 800 dollar pc I built 2 years ago.

@80p

And I watched them all in under 5 min

NDA says they can't talk about it until certain date and time. They all recorded and uploaded earlier to private and auto changed to public at a certain time.

Obviously the nda was due to lift and they scheduled uploads to go public on the nda lift

@@ittotaq is it an actual NDA or more of an embargo? I honestly can't say right now

@@ArtisChronicles it has nothing to do with any politics. NDA's like this is done on the regular across all RU-vidrs and other news outlets. They get to play with the product for a few days and then make a video and upload when the NDA is lifted. It's standard practice for all industries. Don't know what you're going on with embargos

Chris m looked like he couldn't be bothered! 😂😂😂😂

Budget intro

@@eisenklad indeed 😁😂

But not even Core i7 and Core i9 of consumer market have AVX-512, so what's the point? Also what application do you run that uses that instruction set? It can be added in the next gen, currently what the heck would you use it on...

right there with you. I may wait to see how the new CPUs from Intel and AMD benchmark

I feel the same and I am still chugging along with a 7600k...

same hahaha

@@nicholasmaillette1442 same too

Linux, tech jesus, and jay z

I have 12 on my notification. And I am going to watch them all even if I am planing to buy a 3600

AVX and AVX-2 exist on Zen 2, it's AVX-512 that doesn't.

AVX/AVX2 have been supported since late gen Excavator, including all Zen chips. AVX isn’t as optimized on zen, with instructions being split into two ops.

Agreed, both CPUs have AVX2, yet it's still great how a supposedly i3 level cpu from AMD can run on par with an actual high end i7, even if the i7 was three years old, and that's for lesser than one third of the price. Way to go AMD, I've been following up with their advancement, even started buying AMD based servers at work.

jay missed to said 512 behind AVX LoL

Five hundred rblbslrslbrslblsrblsblrjblblblsblrsbl 🤣🤣🤣

I went from an FX-8350 to a ryzen 7 3900X. You wanna talk about flies...

Dilet I have a ryzen 5 2600 in the mitx tower I keep in the sleeper of my semi

@@rockking1379 I have a 7700K a ryzen 9 3950, an fx6350, in i5 6600K, various pentiums and celeron's and athlons and all the mobos and ram and whatnot to set any of them up to work, but why build a 20 year old PC when i can have a new one with all the RGB's. lol

I just bought a ryzen 3 3200g... sadly this new processors wont get here for a long time

@@felathar1985 June

$400 3 years later isn't close to $400 now. A better comparison would be against the new i3s, because they are 4/8 as well and reflect modern pricing.

@@ILoveTinfoilHats Look at linus comparison and you will see R3 3300x handles the i5-9400F pretty well... Please lets not talk about their i3's... :)

i hope amd slashes those beast

It’s like all other Matisse CPUs, you need either a flashed B450 or an X570 for now. B550 are supposed to come out later in the year that will bridge that gap.

CHIPSET/BIOS-> Pretty sure he mentioned that in terms of AM4 BIOS compatibility. most or all AM4 motherboards have supported these CPU's going back to the July and August BIOS updates of 2019 when the 3000 series launched. That includes B320 boards so even cheap-ass $50 boards support this out of the box. TURBO-> meh, probably not the best analogy. Turbo increased performance but it was an addon that often stressed the engines beyond what their original designs aimed at so you often prematurely wore out your engine.

Just soak it up wherever you can get more tech info. You'll be hooked in no time. 😁

I'm still here, wathing Intel kick the crap outta AMD in gaming, enterprise, and laptop uses. But have fun bragging that you run Cinebench while surfing the net or watching some youtube videos. LOL at AMD fanboys wanting to brag about things that don't matter. "I can score this high on cinebench" WHO CARES

@@od40k77 1/8 lame b8 m8

@@iHasCaek LOL, you mad bro or are you just out to protest Intel because you think you're cool.

@@od40k77 When it's Intel supposedly gonna do that? Because the last 2 years and a half have been just diaaapointment after another, and security vulnerabilities

Aleksander Eh, I’m no Intel fanboy but 1st gen Ryzen was not really the killer app that 2nd gen is turning out to be and that 3rd gen likely will be. At the same time understand that right now Intel is trying to play catch up and keep market share, so they’re rushing what they have out the door so that they have “new” hardware on the market at the same time as AMD. Intel is still a huge company with a lot of money. Don’t think they aren’t working on SOMETHING behind closed doors. If they’re not then they’re complete retards. I think the CPU market is going to yield some pretty crazy shit within the next 2-3 years and I’m curious to see who it is that manages it, AMD with the many cores or Intel with the very fast single core.

6700K has been lovely. My favorite PC in my life. Just went from 980 TI to the 1080TI. Had two 980 TI's but afaik SLI is literally useless. It makes viewport previews load faster in Blender but thats about it. so now I do one 1080 ti and one 980 ti and its great for rendering. Had to get a 1080 ti for my new 4k 144Hz monitor. 980 Ti could only do 98Hz on the display port.

I use an Intel 4790k with my RTX 2070S... So uh yeah bottlenecked af

@@TheHeroicSinners I sold my haswell after I got my 1080ti because I wasn't getting all I could out of it. I got a Ryzen 3600 and a 212 Evo. I saw a bigger difference going from 4770k to Ryzen than I did going from my 7970 to 1080ti.

@F a probably because a new motherboard, ram, and cpu would've been less of a leap for price vs new gpu and do those later

*MAYBE NOT?* Do you know how to estimate how much performance you are losing without a better CPU? It's quite easy. Use any tool that allows you to show the GPU Usage (MSI Afterburner or whatever it's called now, or EVGA's PrecisionXOC... now run your game without VSYNC running (so you don't impose an FPS cap). If the GPU USAGE shows at 95% then there's little to no benefit to getting a better CPU. If the GPU USAGE is 80% then you might gain up to roughly 25% more performance with a better CPU. In other words just take (100%)/(X%) which in this case is 100%/80% = 1.25 *There's more than just the AVERAGE FPS so a better CPU might improve game smoothness and/or allow you to do other tasks at the same time but as an approximation that's the easiest way to do it. **Note the "CPU USAGE" amount does not work at all the same way. Your GPU will run up to as high as 100% as long as you simply remove the other bottlenecks such as CPU or storage (usually the CPU). But game code isn't threaded the same way so you can be bottlenecked on a 12-core CPU in some games when the game only reports 30% usage. Sometimes more and sometimes less. But again, looking at "GPU USAGE" tells you how much your CPU is bottlenecking your GPU. Looking at "CPU USAGE" tells you very little in that regard.

Yup, it was the same when we switched from single-core to dual-core and some had expensive single-cores, then from dual to quad-core. Only difference was the 5-6 years before AMD finally made Ryzen to compete, and force intel to really make new stuff. It's a good thing that didn't last forever. And I highly doubt you or anyone else would HAVE to change the 7700K OCed. Also no one speaks about latency, intel is king on that, and most likely as usual the 7700K would not require 3600MHz ram low-latency to have a good memory latency, so it's more snappy, even in games.

Xeon exlusive?