This cable is a revolution for instrument sampling (demo included) | GAS Therapy #61

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This cable is called Bidirectional Recording cable, the best music gear invented in recent 20 years, imo.
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@treayed 5 месяцев назад

FYI: Line level is 1 volt and mic level is 0.001 volts, that little piece in the middle is a resistor to reduce the signal voltage.

@kaitlyn__L 5 месяцев назад

Funnily enough, a lot like that volume limiter cable plugged in the other end of the splitter! But of course, you'd prefer a fixed value for this rather than a potentiometer.

@m.f.3347 3 месяца назад

I play bass guitar and I use a Line 6 multi-effects unit to record loops which i then use to make all sorts of rhythmic effects. The issue is that it only stores 1 loop at a time and has no permanent memory. This cable with Koala Sampler (which i also bought off your recommendation) might just be my solution!

@djobnoxious6407 6 месяцев назад

It's funny how consumerism shapes subjectivization. I resisted the urge to buy a cooler and more expensive phone in order to keep the mic in and headphone out port. With Koalasampler and a minilab 3 (or any kind of low power usb keyboard) I have a decent music tool to carry around. It seems that consumers aren't thinking about this and the manufacturers are in turn copying the unreflexive thinking of consumers. Or maybe it's the other way around? I'll keep buying cheap and underspecd aux jack phones until they become second-hand relics.

@Terrible_Peril 6 месяцев назад

I’ve rolled into a synth shop with a couple little pocket sampler devices and a phone with koala and walked out with apparently thousands of dollars in sounds.

@waynesilverman3048 6 месяцев назад

Ive got a korg electribe 2 sampler but find it easier using aux cable thro my rc 505 looper and sampling words or rec riffs

@1LoDeezydotcom 5 месяцев назад

I feel you but there’s a market for everyone. & unfortunately about 75% of that everyone don’t think for themselves

@djobnoxious6407 5 месяцев назад

@@1LoDeezydotcom le snooty ebin comment xdd

@chrishidalgo65 6 месяцев назад

I kind of love the irony of GAS therapy leading to a sold out device. Thank you for your videos and inspiration!

@nullbyt 6 месяцев назад

Trrs aux cables aren't only manufactured by one company. They're a standard cable. Just not the aux cable most people have on hand

@dxzzydxm5518 5 месяцев назад

@@nullbytyeah but i’m pretty sure this cable is needed specifically to interface the devices together, or at least that was the point that came across in the video

@nullbyt 5 месяцев назад

@@dxzzydxm5518 it's literally just a trrs aux cable.

@dxzzydxm5518 5 месяцев назад

@@nullbyt he was specifically saying that trs cables didn’t work for this and this one only works because that square in the middle of the wire is a converter, so no it’s not just a trs cable. trs cables have been around forever i don’t think he would have said he’s been waiting 20 years for something that already existed 💀 you’re so certain you’re correct you ignored everything he said in the video

@nullbyt 5 месяцев назад

@@dxzzydxm5518 trs is not the same as trrs. You have no idea what you're talking about

@flct_live 6 месяцев назад

I found one in AliExpress. Don't know if quality are good as the Amazon one (same brand).

@playpm 6 месяцев назад

Right! I should also check it there!

@playpm 6 месяцев назад

Damn there's IP block, they won't allow me to even search, can you share the link with me? Thanks in advance!

@MadScientistGuitarLab 6 месяцев назад

I recently searched for a similar cable and eventually ended up cutting up and splicing multiple cables together. Thank you for demonstrating this cable with a splitter and volume added. Great work!

@HolyColaHolyCola 5 месяцев назад

I’ve been having an issue, maybe this cable is my solution. I bought the camera adapter for iPhone so I could control koala with my midi keyboard. I can plug headphones into the aux port of the adapter and hear everything I’m doing in the app just fine, but when I run a trs cable from the same aux port out to amplify the sound, I get nothing. I’ll buy this cable anyways since it’s only $5 and give it a shot, but if anyone reading this has experience with this issue please respond! Reddit has been unhelpful 😂

@anjovimusic Месяц назад

Finally getting my hands on these! Definately excited to get rid of the fuzzy/buzzy pre amp thing i was using prior! Thanks again Mike!

@ponuru7798 Месяц назад

Because of this video I can now take my pocket operator thirty three And shove my recorded music into koala sampler for equalizing and trimming. Thus eliminating the need for a daw. So between my 40$ phone and 70 dollar (on sale) pocket operator 33 I can make music while I'm bored at work. No thousand dollar midi or thousands of dollars in vst plug-ins needed and I get the bonus of making music anywhere. Thank you sir. I really appreciate this.

@rakdur 5 месяцев назад

Rode AI Micro accepts stereo line-in via 3.5 jack, monitor via 3.5 jack, and plugs to smartphone or laptop via USB-C. Put everything else in the trash.

@ErWarDieErsteNummer1 28 дней назад

Ok with an Audio splitter you can monitor your instrument. But how do I monitor my phone or do I have to unplug it after the recording? I want to record with my phone and I also want to play it after the recording. Also what can I do if my phone only has USB C and no audio jack. There are USB soundcards that split audio and microphone. But when I plug in a different audio device as audio in, that isn't a microphone, there will be a loss of quality because the audio splitters are made for microphones and not for other audio in signals.

@RextheDragon881 Месяц назад

This guy is a fucking legend. Exactly the kind of solution I'm looking for. To Manny more videos like it. Know you are appreciated sir

@jay50lane 2 дня назад

only sad part is the removal of audio jack from phones, thankyou apple

@KarinaKapri 5 месяцев назад

The cable to my gaming headset works like this. I would have never known.

@wickeddubz 5 месяцев назад

1 resistor 10k , 1 cap around 10nF, and trrs. Easy to made if you are into soldering. It’s not aux in, it’s mic in. Mic and linear signals have different levels.

@zzeebb81 5 месяцев назад

Hello ! How would you solder it ? Thanks !

@d34dbolt20 5 месяцев назад

The monitoring option you show only allows you to monitor the instrument or source that you’re using, not the phone’s audio. I’m not really sure why you need the bi directional cable for that situation?

@pitbull2365 6 месяцев назад

Found this on eBay…….. Bidirectional Recording Cable Dual 3.5mm Gold-Plated Plug Nylon Braided Thread …… not sure how to put more info and picture, but just put title in search eBay, and hopefully it’ll pop up…. Just ordered it myself

@RDHamel 6 месяцев назад

Or you might have an iphone… in which case - nah.

@josethemendez 6 месяцев назад

Nice. I just found out a cable that came with my Roland Go Mixer Pro X does the same thing.

@playpm 6 месяцев назад

Damn, Roland IS good at making money 🤯

@tomstorm255 4 месяца назад

If I'm recording into Koala sampler via my iPad headphone jack - how do I get audio out either via the iPad speaker or a set of USB headphones via lightning adapter?

@playpm 4 месяца назад

Sadly you can't, this method is focused on sampling only, the monitoring is also focused on audio source.

@ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked 4 месяца назад

Yeah, I figured a splitter.

@tenhusho 5 месяцев назад

if you have a macbook and an iphone. you can do a similar thing too. under Audio Midi Setup

@guitargirlutube 2 месяца назад

Do I still need the cable he is demonstrating? And create an aggregate device no? )

@avemeends 6 месяцев назад

Great Video! Ive been using a ttrs splitter for years that come with a lot of gaming headphones.

@snaggdadon Месяц назад

wow thx brother!!!!

@raymundp7752 5 месяцев назад

this cable seems to be back in AliX.

@anjovimusic 6 месяцев назад

Damn Mike! That's beautiful! Thanks so much for sharing. We need more stuff like this!

@anjovimusic 6 месяцев назад

By chance, have you ever experimented with microphones that could work in aux like this for vocals and the like? Some kind of solution to avoid breaking bank as a entry level phone recording vocalist would be gold!

@playpm 6 месяцев назад

Mic is easy, a normal headphone/mic splitter will give you the mic port, then you can use lavalier or directional ones to get better quality.

@AntonMochalin 5 месяцев назад

No you're wrong not every phone and tablet with USB-C has a DAC inside to send analog audio along with digital audio over USB connector. Some of them like Galaxy Tab Pro tablets need an external DAC if one needs analog audio out.

@rzlopasa 5 месяцев назад

Have the same behringer jt4000, bidirectional cable. The only difference is I have type c. When I plug it in directly to phone it works (records). When I introduce audio splitter so I can have headphones i can hear audio but it's not recording. 😕 Tried two audio splitters and tried reversing (i also have type c audio splitter). Nothing seem to help. Is there something I need to do?

@rzlopasa 5 месяцев назад

Great video btw, this was something loooong overdue in mobile recording. 😊

@playpm 5 месяцев назад

Make sure the splitter goes into your instrument, not your smartphone, and it should be a 1 headphone to 2 headphone splitter, not trrs to mic+headphone.

@RudolfZ 5 месяцев назад

@@playpm Yeah, it does go into into the JT4000. gonna find an old phone with 3.5 jack to test it but as i said, when i don't use splitter it works fine, i just don't hear what i'm playing. 🙃

@radicalrecordings 5 месяцев назад

Thanks for the follow up Gas Therapy!

@Curious_Skeptic 6 месяцев назад

Sadly, so many modern c phones do not have the port anymore. At this point, audio usb c audio devices are so cheap, hardly a thought to go that route. I picked on up for the iPad for like $20.00 and it works perfect. I do love the simple cable though. I'll have to find one to try out for my older c phone. It's collecting dust.

@HOLLASOUNDS 6 месяцев назад

I phones dont have jack cables.

@kinnectar820 5 месяцев назад

"Every smart device as an aux jack" ummmm... Samsung, you got some 'splaining to do.

@i_never_asked_for_an_alias 5 месяцев назад

"Every phone has a headphone jack"... looking at my Pixel 6a 🤨

@mac1414 4 месяца назад

Thank you for this. This is awesome, I bought it some time ago because of watching your channel. I can use this cable for many cool things.

@GeorgeL909 6 месяцев назад

Just a quick question, can you use the mic-headphone splitter (like the first one you showed in this video) plugged into the phone to monitor, using the bidirectional cable plugged from the synth into the the mic port of the splitter? I imagine it would work.

@playpm 6 месяцев назад

I tried it again, it won't work 🥹

@GeorgeL909 6 месяцев назад

@@playpm I see, thank you for testing it out. I had a mic-headphone splitter already and am still waiting the bidirectional cable and was going to use them together, but it seems I'll need to get an audio splitter to monitor.

@Flavelius 2 месяца назад

The Rode SC6 allows this to work (in combination with the bidi rec cable), atleast in my case on an ipad. I can hear the regular headphone output, while being able to record in koala etc.

@notmyrealname9059 6 месяцев назад

I wonder if this would solve the audio connection issues on the Roland E4 Voice Tweaker. Specifically creating a wet/dry balance.

@ambiention 6 месяцев назад

Good explanation, cheers Michael

@mindthependulum6245 5 месяцев назад

Is there a way I can connect my iPhone to my MacBook to use the iPhone as a drum pad?

@bradleyjohnson8780 5 месяцев назад

Sorry if this is an obvious answer kinda question, but will this still work if I use an iPhone lightning to 3.5mm and stick the cable in there? [I have a 6s and an IPad Air]Also how would u go about recording guitars? Would u need an adapter???

@playpm 5 месяцев назад

Yes, as long as you use an adapter to turn type c or lightning into 3.5mm headphone jack, this cable will work. It's just a hack into the traditional 3.5mm trrs port.

@gwilkinson418 6 месяцев назад

Not available via the link you added, can you find same cable elsewhere?

@HOLLASOUNDS 6 месяцев назад

I sample with a Xoon, recorder.

@dawgboybinley6128 5 месяцев назад

anyone find an available replacment for this cable that is no longer in stock on amazon?

@Srcsqwrn 5 месяцев назад

You are literally showing me magic right now! I tried to search for something like this, but only came up with complicated fixes. I wish this was in stock tbh! What is the app you're using, also?

@playpm 5 месяцев назад

Try ebay and AliExpress, heard people found it there. The app is Koala Sampler, my mobile sp404.

@LachieMcg 6 месяцев назад

Well since it’s sold out I suppose I need to diy one using old cables for free

@leolovetoparty 5 месяцев назад

Does it work with 1/4” TS male Jack to 1/8” female TS Jack? I want to connect a synth/guitar and they have 1/4” Jack

@playpm 5 месяцев назад

I tried use 6.5mm to 3.5mm convertor on my Zoom G4n, then use this cable, it worked pretty well.

@leolovetoparty 5 месяцев назад

@@playpm great! Thank you. BTW I love your channel (even if I do also own one or two bits of kit that you can get for free).

@lextron-audio 6 месяцев назад

This cable has existed for decades

@jamisondonald384 6 месяцев назад

This this this 👆 It's some standard stuff

@MadScientistGuitarLab 6 месяцев назад

Recently I searched for something just like this and never found anything. I’m curious to know where y’all found them.

@jamisondonald384 6 месяцев назад

@@MadScientistGuitarLab look up trrs 3.5 mm

@jamisondonald384 6 месяцев назад

@@MadScientistGuitarLab look up trrs 3.5mm

@TheOniProducciones 6 месяцев назад

This is obvious, and the coolest part is that is so simple that many people ignores it.

@eyn4 6 месяцев назад

It will be great to see how you can use a guitar with a koala sampler on your smartphone.

@playpm 6 месяцев назад

Will do, both acoustic and electric ones, stay tuned.

@RG-gk4yi 6 месяцев назад

How is the cable wired? Is it straight through trrs to trrs or does that middle module add something?

@mrclaytron 6 месяцев назад

The part in the middle attenuates the signal. That's the special part of this cable that some people are not understanding. You cannot plug a line out signal (from a synth for example) into a mic level input for a phone. This cable converts the line level signal to mic level so that you can.

@chrisharrison809 6 месяцев назад

Really nice 👍 ❤

@goonknox 6 месяцев назад

That's so dope❤❤

@nullbyt 6 месяцев назад

Trrs

@tablaninja 6 месяцев назад

This is too expensive. Just make your own with salvaged parts for FREE! 😂😂😂 just kidding. Love this!

@GeorgeHzMusic 6 месяцев назад

Super clear and genius!!!

@DoctorRevers 6 месяцев назад

Yeah. I want one.

@slmnsolomon 6 месяцев назад

Thanks for the information. Which phone was that?

@playpm 6 месяцев назад

It's Redmi 13C, suuuper low end, but now my daily driver.

@slmnsolomon 6 месяцев назад

@@playpm Thank you :)

@katiebarber407 5 месяцев назад

i dont get it. its a male to male headphone cable?

@nullbyt 6 месяцев назад

I could have really used this guide like 10 years ago when i was learning how to do all this stuff. very helpful for those jumping in

@boomboombaby9140 5 месяцев назад

I have like 10 of those cables they come with headphones like beats

@bassbassbasser 6 месяцев назад

Nearly no phone has a headphone jack nowadays

@ryanabrams77 6 месяцев назад

You just need a USB-C to TRRS adapter

@alexwr 6 месяцев назад

An adapter will solve this easily. Or just refuse to buy a device without a headphone jack. I can't believe so many companies continue to sell so-called 'pro' and 'ultra' devices without an in-built option to listen to audio without latency.

@dwsel 6 месяцев назад

@@alexwrI refuse to buy jackless phones

@Syntox 6 месяцев назад

@@dwseli held out as long as I could but the only phones that still have them TODAY are low to mid range dreck

@idiot4always 5 месяцев назад

I managed to the same with an external soundcard, wich is like a little usb-stick with a headphone- and microphone -jack in it. Can plug that into my phone through a usb-C adapter, or straight into my computer. And if on the computer, I can monitor the sound, before and during recording using audacity. Some recording apps on the phone let me monitor the sound while recording, but that came with quite a bit of delay.

@idiot4always 5 месяцев назад

And even though I already have another recording solution, will deffinetly snag that cable up if I see one lying in a store. I love me a good simple versitile aux cable.