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Turki Alalshikh is in talks for a super league involving eddie hearn's Matchroom Frank Warren and Queensbury Toprank Golden Boy and PBC, since Tyson Fury vs Francis Ngannou weve had the undisputed Fury vs Usyk and it feels like all the fights we have ever wanted to see are now being made. But what's in store for Turki Alalshikh and his league?
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@MrPmcMcMental
@MrPmcMcMental 3 месяца назад
There being so many belts is exactly the reason someone can be a world champion and you have never heard of them 😂
@marccreation1052
@marccreation1052 3 месяца назад
What, you think Rolly Romero wasn' t legit?
@mattihaapoja8203
@mattihaapoja8203 3 месяца назад
Who?​@@marccreation1052
@danmack8456
@danmack8456 3 месяца назад
@@marccreation1052he isn’t, blokes a 🤡🤡
@saqib7965
@saqib7965 3 месяца назад
I'd make it so it's only 3 titles per weight category as one doesn't work for boxing..as boxers only box once two twice year.
@billysm8
@billysm8 3 месяца назад
⁠@@saqib7965this is one of the most retarded sentences ive ever read.
@martin-mz2dv
@martin-mz2dv 3 месяца назад
lowest ranked fighter at the end of every season gets called into the embassy and never seen again.
@roblockstock
@roblockstock 3 месяца назад
😂
@morgan1985uk
@morgan1985uk 3 месяца назад
I thought they just chopped their hands off?
@samanthahydeker7914
@samanthahydeker7914 3 месяца назад
@@morgan1985uk It depends. Chopping hands is pretty old-fashioned, they still do it in villages. Saudis in particular send them to construction jobs and pretty they are modern-day slave.
@nyquil762
@nyquil762 3 месяца назад
🤣
@morgan1985uk
@morgan1985uk 3 месяца назад
@@samanthahydeker7914 they bring Asians in for construction.
@paulhegarty8380
@paulhegarty8380 3 месяца назад
Saudi money doesn’t talk it shouts!
@DEEDUBZ
@DEEDUBZ 3 месяца назад
SCREAMS! They even own The Premier League and it's Referees.
@itsharvey1112
@itsharvey1112 3 месяца назад
WBC Silver ginger continental belt. Uncle you make me laugh . Quality content
@chad.-bn1pr
@chad.-bn1pr 3 месяца назад
The Fridge Magnet 😂
@appaccount7203
@appaccount7203 3 месяца назад
Boxing super league??? Love that idea
@milopuppet1
@milopuppet1 3 месяца назад
yeah fr
@MoralesCorner
@MoralesCorner 3 месяца назад
Yeah is definitely a good idea. Boxing needs some structure and also updating. The UFC model is just great for the fans
@TheStraightestWhitest
@TheStraightestWhitest 3 месяца назад
​@@MoralesCorner The UFC model is the worst there is. The judging, reffing, and ducking never ends.
@kagnetix6674
@kagnetix6674 3 месяца назад
@@TheStraightestWhitest The worst ever ducking in UFC is at most someone holding up a division for a year. Boxing people like Tyson have ducked AJ for over 5+ years in the making so it's not even close
@appaccount7203
@appaccount7203 3 месяца назад
A super league is kinda a natural evolution from the team based 5v5 formula. I think the problem is that its coming from Saudi, we can all agree its sports washing at its most blatant...but by the same token Turkiye comes across as a genuine and legitimate boxing fan.
@Cnhaddock
@Cnhaddock 3 месяца назад
The problem is if you look at a unified organisation like the UFC the fighters make peanuts and the ownership make bank. Boxers already have a history of being exploited, and it's only likely to get worse if they dont have the ability to negotiate with leverage.
@TeacherDoug7
@TeacherDoug7 3 месяца назад
Historically, great artists would have a "patron", which is just a rich guy or prince that likes that person's art, and supports him financially. Turki is like a patron of boxing. He really loves boxing and respects the boxers. The UFC on the other hand is a soulless corporation that must make bigger and bigger profits every single year. If a corporation fails to make a profit they can legally be sued by their shareholders for breach of fiduciary duty. There is the difference.
@TheVisualante
@TheVisualante 3 месяца назад
@@TeacherDoug7yes but what happens after he is no longer here
@M.2018-b3f
@M.2018-b3f 3 месяца назад
"Gold and silver franchise fridge magnet, that no one gives a f**k about." (I've just nearly spit my pint out. 😂😂😂)
@Alfiepops
@Alfiepops 3 месяца назад
You watch RU-vid videos in the pub ? Bet your a great laugh on a night out !!!
@amenra7613
@amenra7613 3 месяца назад
"I didnt want to be in the league anyway" 😂
@RossNaylor-uq4jp
@RossNaylor-uq4jp 3 месяца назад
Uncle propa had me in tears with that one he always brightens my day the mad man 😂
@marccleary8592
@marccleary8592 3 месяца назад
im crying laughing at that
@ra-ge
@ra-ge 3 месяца назад
It's never good when one man owns everything but this belt circus must end.
@samuelhannan5420
@samuelhannan5420 3 месяца назад
Hasbro has a monopoly on Monopoly.
@selectivevisions
@selectivevisions 3 месяца назад
@@samuelhannan5420hasbro don’t have a history of luring journalists to a consulate before murdering them cos they disagree with what the journalist wrote.
@TheVanillatech
@TheVanillatech 3 месяца назад
BOXERS own boxing, bro. Just cos Turkeys Halall Shake might be organizing everything and whatnot, if the boxers don't turn up then THERE IS NO BOXING! It has to be a partnership. But the parasites have to go, one way or the other.
@Koutsimouka
@Koutsimouka 3 месяца назад
@@samuelhannan5420do they? I thought they just made Transformers? I never knew that
@TeacherDoug7
@TeacherDoug7 3 месяца назад
No the worst thing is when a corporation owns everything. Turki doesn't mind losing money on great events, but corporations must always suck out as much profit as possible at all times. The fighter salaries for UFC are a joke when you compare it to the profits they make.
@beeny21
@beeny21 3 месяца назад
The best fight the best. No ducking
@scabthecat
@scabthecat 3 месяца назад
Everyone, minimum 4 fights per year. Injured fighters get replaced. No hold ups.
@TheStraightestWhitest
@TheStraightestWhitest 3 месяца назад
​@@scabthecat Delusional to think this will happen when you have no idea what it costs both the fighters and the people paying them.
@MrMooMoo088
@MrMooMoo088 3 месяца назад
​@scabthecat yeah that's too much. 3 is ideal with no looming injuries.
@1chaka
@1chaka 3 месяца назад
@@TheStraightestWhitestUFX fighters get paid a fraction of the paydays boxers get but they fight that often.
@shootingfromthehip3600
@shootingfromthehip3600 3 месяца назад
@@1chaka You can't compare the two. Boxing has a history and recognition and is watched all over the world. The world knows about Ali and Tyson. I can't even name one current UFC champion.
@russellwattssmith6601
@russellwattssmith6601 3 месяца назад
Turkey needs to EMPLOY PROPA to promote his fights.
@MoralesCorner
@MoralesCorner 3 месяца назад
He did already
@theColonel01
@theColonel01 3 месяца назад
he already is involved
@ichloe9
@ichloe9 3 месяца назад
I would love to see him get ShowBizz involved too
@sugipulaboule9
@sugipulaboule9 3 месяца назад
​@@ichloe9 You people don't see it?
@arronlewis3331
@arronlewis3331 3 месяца назад
"Silver ginger continental belt" had me cracking up lol
@prof_Pomari
@prof_Pomari 3 месяца назад
A kind of "super League" for boxing already existed in the form of the Muhammad Ali Trophy, tournament-style competition whith all champions & top contenders of a given weight class. (Notable winners being dre Ward, Inoue & Usyk himself). And it absolutely delivered imo. Idk about the saudi plans but a 'league-style' tournament in boxing (/ fighting sports) is unfeasible, but I'd love to see another tournament to unify the belts in at least one weight class
@in4mus85
@in4mus85 3 месяца назад
Exactly the super series is adequate enough, just bring that back.
@melvert33
@melvert33 3 месяца назад
Boxing has a long history of association with dubious bankrollers, the Mafia, Don King the convicted murderer, Kinahan cartel and brutal dictatorships like Zaire's Mobutu, now it's the Saudis turn. That's boxing for you, still love the fight game though.
@Tannhauser62
@Tannhauser62 3 месяца назад
Absolutely, though this is sportswashing on a scale rarely seen since the Roman Empire. Most fans don't care about the horrors perpetrated behind the scenes so long as they get their spectacle. If the boxing bodies had done their job, SA wouldn't be needed.
@otaieb48
@otaieb48 3 месяца назад
It's more about Saudi showing you who they are, rather than what you hear about from the media for years.
@Premiumalltheway
@Premiumalltheway 3 месяца назад
With the current model of boxing everyone's a champion. That's what puts people off boxing is the incredibly complicated system as everyone has a belt and most of them you've never heard of it. Simplify it and make it like the UFC model where you have 1 champion per weight division and all the ranked opponents need to face each other to get a shot at the champion.
@mlkvblendzior
@mlkvblendzior 3 месяца назад
Agree with the one exception, as HW division in UFC is now a fuckin shit show, as Jon Jones is stalling the division.
@Dex2024
@Dex2024 3 месяца назад
The way boxing used to be you mean
@otaieb48
@otaieb48 3 месяца назад
@@Dex2024Is that really how boxing used to be? What changed it?
@Dex2024
@Dex2024 3 месяца назад
@@otaieb48 greed and TV companies.
@BernhardBernard
@BernhardBernard 3 месяца назад
Should just do tournaments in certain weight classes that need it every year.
@TeacherDoug7
@TeacherDoug7 3 месяца назад
Remember K-1 Grand Prix? Boxing should do that! I don't mind watching seven 4-round fights in a row to determine a champion out of eight contenders in a single night. And no fighter would have to fight more than 12 rounds total.
@nUmBskulLL
@nUmBskulLL 3 месяца назад
Mate they stopped those for a reason 😂
@BernhardBernard
@BernhardBernard 3 месяца назад
@@nUmBskulLL they stopped the WSOB and WBSS because of Covid mate. The Sauderlands had no choice but to stop it... So yes, there actually was a reason...
@VinayakPande53
@VinayakPande53 3 месяца назад
I don't know about a boxing super league, but when I saw Usyk holding up a belt that said Undisputed that Turki gave him, made me wish that there was only one belt per weight division. I wish there was a way for Turki or anyone else to merge the four different sanctioning bodies into one.
@roymunson1
@roymunson1 3 месяца назад
That's what made you wish there was only one belt? The one belt that looks like it was made out of a cornflakes box. Been saying for years. Each of the 4 sanctioning bodies buy an equal stake in the Ring belt, then use their own belts as eliminators for the actual ring title. The rest can be fringe world champions and have 1 clear champ in each division. Personally I'd love to see them bin all the belts and just have one overnight, but that won't be allowed happen.
@bigbobabc123
@bigbobabc123 3 месяца назад
or just have an indisputed title in every division - the only one people care about that he owns. doesn't need the other titles if the undisputed belt is genuinely held by the best fighter in the world and not passed around on politics.
@2moreminutes
@2moreminutes 3 месяца назад
It's one of the things that appealed to me in MMA as a kid. I couldn't memorize however many champs for however many weight classes in boxing
@selectivevisions
@selectivevisions 3 месяца назад
Everyone talking like most champs don’t fight 1ce maybe 2ce a year boxing would become so fucking stagnant and a champ could easily hold the division when ever he wanted if he was the only one.
@TeacherDoug7
@TeacherDoug7 3 месяца назад
@@2moreminutes As a kid? When I was a kid, UFC was an 8 person (or 16 person) one-night, single elimination tournament. Now THAT would be great for boxing, but you'd have to have like 4 round fights.
@androsp9105
@androsp9105 3 месяца назад
As a fairly casual boxing fan, I don't care about belts at all. I just want to see the best fight each other.
@garystephenson1618
@garystephenson1618 3 месяца назад
Fantastic idea, at present you can have world champions who fight nobodies and avoid the fighters that all fans know will be dangerous to them, to avoid the risk, but they still claim to be the best in the world. Hope it happens, one world champion at each weight
@badnetcode6228
@badnetcode6228 3 месяца назад
BOXXER has their route to Saudi through CBS. If he unifies, the double excellent will have the undisputed with Opetaia in Saudi no doubt. Really looking forward to see what this league is all about. Best vs best, sign me up. Launch it on your own platform and your laughing. No offense, DAZN, TNT, ESPN etc etc, but this could truly be the one subscription for all the boxing id need. Heres hoping the league wont ignore the smaller names coming through., but based on him getting Mark Chamberlain over, I have hopes plans will be in place to make sure they wont be forgotten.
@colinpankhurst4341
@colinpankhurst4341 3 месяца назад
I have followed boxing a long time and never concerned myself with percentage of governing bodies but wtf explains a proppa lot cheers proppa ❤❤
@Mark-ib2st
@Mark-ib2st 3 месяца назад
Propa's on the payroll :( Great atmosphere in Saudi isn't it 😢
@maxmckercher626
@maxmckercher626 3 месяца назад
Nahhh you can’t prove that. Wait.. maybe we can
@lucas6909
@lucas6909 3 месяца назад
He 100% is🤣
@davancleere5957
@davancleere5957 3 месяца назад
I’d say it’ll mostly be in Saudi but like the ufc they’ll probably travel to different countries as well
@dwaynebronson6229
@dwaynebronson6229 3 месяца назад
Well he’s right about how it will be better for the sport
@GERBOY90
@GERBOY90 3 месяца назад
Great atmosphere for fights nobody wants
@GIBBO4182
@GIBBO4182 3 месяца назад
This guy is single handedly saving boxing!
@kuschelwuscheI
@kuschelwuscheI 3 месяца назад
sad that saving the sport only works by brute force money
@GIBBO4182
@GIBBO4182 3 месяца назад
​@@kuschelwuscheII don't care WHY they fight each other!
@jurgenzimmermann2786
@jurgenzimmermann2786 3 месяца назад
@@kuschelwuscheI tell me something that doesnt work by the force of money.
@kuschelwuscheI
@kuschelwuscheI 3 месяца назад
@@jurgenzimmermann2786 happiness, integrity, friendship, love, art, satisfaction, family, experience
@harmoneyko
@harmoneyko 3 месяца назад
@@jurgenzimmermann2786 happiness
@rickybridger2472
@rickybridger2472 3 месяца назад
Dear Unc’ just wanna say this channel is the golden dildo of any boxing channel out there. Just started listening to the podcasts. Fucking good gear!! Big up Propa boxing!! Bish bash bosh 🥊🥊
@pauldaniels7543
@pauldaniels7543 3 месяца назад
A bangon vid this . The Super league would indeed be rid of the greed from the WBC. The latest and most obvious case for corruption was in the face of the world when a WBC judge gave the Usyk Fury fight 117 - 112 to Fury . It's now at the point of blatant corruption because noone challenges it. Bravo for calling this out in such a diplomatic way. Bangon
@claritywalk3887
@claritywalk3887 3 месяца назад
One of the things i like about UFC is that people dont get binned as soon as they take a loss because the best are fighting the best. Whereas boxing has so many journeymen to pad fighters records and make them seem invincible.
@RJALEXANDER777
@RJALEXANDER777 3 месяца назад
Yeah with the UFC you assume that people are going to be taking a loss here or there, it's only if they start having a consistent string of losses that you start to lose faith in a fighter - even then some of them have turned that around.
@TheStraightestWhitest
@TheStraightestWhitest 3 месяца назад
Well look how people treat Fury now that he's lost. This is your own faults. If you were more accepting of losses, fighters wouldn't fear taking risks.
@RJALEXANDER777
@RJALEXANDER777 3 месяца назад
@@TheStraightestWhitest To be fair Fury is a cocky bastard and a lot of people are just glad to see him be taken down a peg. Even as a Fury fan I want to see him be more humble.
@venicec3310
@venicec3310 3 месяца назад
@@TheStraightestWhitestfury gets that treatment cause hes a clown and had held up the hw division for years
@realAzoreschildinUSA
@realAzoreschildinUSA 3 месяца назад
100% about telling friends about title fights who havent followed boxing in 30 yrs
@Rockstarrclarke
@Rockstarrclarke 3 месяца назад
Saudi fights are fire tbh. The stage, Arena, the walk out setups. Fury’s ring walk was the best I’ve ever scene. They’re cinematic.
@adrianwalters2318
@adrianwalters2318 3 месяца назад
The idea you suggested about drug testing is bang on the money Propa💯🥊🔥🔥🔥🔥
@noctislucis5862
@noctislucis5862 3 месяца назад
It’s mental when you think about the old era fighters who fought at the top level every 3 weeks with records of 186 fights or something. Guys like Archie Moore who was still fighting champions at the age of 65! With gloves that barely had any padding and rules and refs that didn’t stop the fight until someone was half dead and sagging on the ropes. Boxing back in those days was insane!
@jeffrydiamond
@jeffrydiamond 3 месяца назад
His Excellency has a good idea, and if Frank and Eddie are onboard the others will be wise to follow.
@jonathandewberry289
@jonathandewberry289 3 месяца назад
Say what you want but Prince Turki has, so far, done nearly everything right and may be saving boxing and making it great again. Utter dream cards and fighters actually fighting each other in their peaks every 3 to 6 months so we really really see who rises to the top not by 2 bouts over 2 years to carefully chosen styles etc. Turki making boxing great again! MBGA!
@benlowe578
@benlowe578 3 месяца назад
The Turkey is truly excellent
@woahblackbettybamalam
@woahblackbettybamalam 3 месяца назад
2:12 Never seen Voldemort crack up like that before
@Alex-cw3rz
@Alex-cw3rz 3 месяца назад
So some guy from Saudi Arabia gets to choose who is in the top 15. So if you are from yemen in houthi controlled area, are gay, or critised the Saudi government etc. Will you be banned. I'm not sure what their opinion on womens boxing is. UFC is also terrible for the rights of fighters, this is not good for boxers and in the UFC there is still cherry picking, the same if not more steroid etc. use and they don't fight more than modern boxers either.
@chrisr525
@chrisr525 3 месяца назад
Also boxing is haram according to Google 🤷
@SeanstrickIandvswomensmma
@SeanstrickIandvswomensmma 3 месяца назад
Ima tell u rn non of those saudi guys at the top are real Muslims, just look up stories of what they do
@morgan1985uk
@morgan1985uk 3 месяца назад
IBO starting to look more legit by the second. Great video, as always Uncz. BOSH!
@manuwilson4695
@manuwilson4695 3 месяца назад
About fucking time someone stepped in to clean up the boxing mess!
@detectiveschitz
@detectiveschitz 3 месяца назад
They should take a leaf out of the old WWF and have midcard belts, like the Intercontinental Championship, European, Hardcore and Divas titles
@Peakmastery26
@Peakmastery26 3 месяца назад
Why-TF not?! Thank you Turkey👌
@DelBoyjrProductions
@DelBoyjrProductions 3 месяца назад
That’s almost as many different belts as Man United has football kits
@DaveyChops
@DaveyChops 3 месяца назад
Almost but not quite
@SirSalter
@SirSalter 3 месяца назад
Imagine being a Man United fan
@joshuajarod1909
@joshuajarod1909 3 месяца назад
Once upon a time ​@@SirSalter
@1234537564534231234
@1234537564534231234 3 месяца назад
And titles
@wizardssleeve6049
@wizardssleeve6049 3 месяца назад
About time too. C'mon Turki.
@McDouble54
@McDouble54 3 месяца назад
I know this might be a stupid take, so just try to hear me out. What if boxers fought with other boxers in the same country to compete in earning a title in their own country. Then, later on, champions of other countries can compete on winning a world title. Again, this is probably a stupid idea, but this randomly popped in my head, lol
@jackslater5886
@jackslater5886 3 месяца назад
If it gets everyone actually fighting eachother, that's great
@Troynjk
@Troynjk 3 месяца назад
The only downside I see with this right now is that it will create a monopoly. It might be the solution for fixing the boxing circus at the moment, but it will eventually and inevitably go down the shitter like any other monopoly always does.
@the_deputy2327
@the_deputy2327 3 месяца назад
There needs to belts. It gives fighters something to aim for. How many active pro boxers are there? 300,000, maybe? Most of them will win NOTHING. What's the point of a career of 30 odd fights, you're better than 99% of boxers and you can't win anything. Footballers get to win up to 4/5 trophies every year, golfers 4 majors, countless tours, tennis, players 4 majors, countless tours it goes on. Boxers, they put theirt life on the line to mostly win...... FA!
@fairycakes3930
@fairycakes3930 3 месяца назад
I am that friend who knows nothing about boxing, saw on RU-vids the other day “Ben Whittaker in IBF International light heavyweight title” and I thought “bloody hell I thought he just did all that mucking about for Instagram but he’s in an International (world?) title fight? i need to see this!” Then all the comments are saying he’s going to come unstuck when he fights a British or European title fight. Totally confused. Fridge magnets indeed.
@itsirrelephantman
@itsirrelephantman 3 месяца назад
Get weight cutting out of the sport as well. Weigh in the night before and another as they walk out. A weigh in on the way to the ring can be a feature of the fight, and have back up fighters just in case. The fighters that miss weight don't get paid a penny and after a while fighters that screw up and miss weight just won't get fights booked, that'll spark a change in attitude from fighters and we'll get better fights.
@eol6632
@eol6632 3 месяца назад
We had weigh in's the day before the fight, didn't really work out did it? Do you recall Gatti vs Gamache? Arturo gained like 20lbs in 24 hours. Joey ended up brain damaged. Weigh in should be morning of the day fight is scheduled. And reweighing before leaving dressing room
@baughjaughes5104
@baughjaughes5104 3 месяца назад
Ive dreamt of this for boxing. Having less belts is fine. it works in UFC and people get excited for non title fights all the time.
@DonGorgon78
@DonGorgon78 3 месяца назад
But what does it mean for the lower level fighters that don't have a huge following yet? This only sounds like a good idea for the ones who are already household names
@seanisnotjohn
@seanisnotjohn 3 месяца назад
It's always been that way
@DonGorgon78
@DonGorgon78 3 месяца назад
@@seanisnotjohn that's true, but at least prospects get get built up fighting different styles of opponents. With this, prospects would have to fights champions in order for it to sell.
@vaxes
@vaxes 3 месяца назад
Here is my 2 cents. There is this super league with their own belts. Call it the TBL (Turki Boxing League) or what ever. When you win a belt you have to defend it with in 4 months. You can only fight for a TBL belt in a TBL fight, no other belts from other boxing associations can be on the line in a TBL fight. TBL fights are simple 80/20 split on the purse, 80 to winner & 20 to loser. Change the scoring system to stop draws. The TBL fighters are allowed to take other fights outside of the TBL but champions will be locked into that 4 month defend clause. Winning purses for TBL championship fights will be paid on the next TBL fight. This will stop a fighter scooping a big payday, the belt and never coming back to the TBL.
@simonhancock4949
@simonhancock4949 3 месяца назад
Strap in for the boxing revolution!!!
@RT-hh3vl
@RT-hh3vl 3 месяца назад
nice explanation Propa, cheers
@sydclark5581
@sydclark5581 3 месяца назад
Its a bad idea. The champ cant fight all other 14 in the league, as that would take 7 years. Also.... Eddie wont give up his ring masters role, he loves it too much. This is gonna end up splitting boxing even more in the long run. Imagine Eddie sells up and one year later he starts up Matchroom 2.0 to compete in a new league (sorta identical to the format we have today 😉).
@piping9153
@piping9153 3 месяца назад
Frank warren writes your game changing scripts
@cromdaleblvd4677
@cromdaleblvd4677 3 месяца назад
He is my excellency!!!!
@Zohaib-lp6yf
@Zohaib-lp6yf 3 месяца назад
What turkey says turkey does 😂 such a great man for the sport I just can’t get over his name 😂 mashallah brother 😂
@RossNaylor-uq4jp
@RossNaylor-uq4jp 3 месяца назад
Im sorry ben dont look at me in that tone of voice its not my fault your name wasn't mentioned 😂 had me creased uncle propa great work as always bruv 💙👊✌
@Chaos4190
@Chaos4190 3 месяца назад
Unify all the major belts, make it clear who's the best of the best and have the best fight the best. I'm all for it.
@thijsdeboer389
@thijsdeboer389 3 месяца назад
Aka what mma has always had with pan-craze, pride and the UFC better stop holding on to that 0 losses supremacy-mentality boys😂
@procow2274
@procow2274 3 месяца назад
Technically there are more mma organizations than the UFC thats just the biggest
@in4mus85
@in4mus85 3 месяца назад
People forget this.
@noraodonnell2999
@noraodonnell2999 3 месяца назад
This is how the UFC started, and eventually what it became is a promotion that doesn't pay its fighters near what they're worth. I like the idea in principle. It just needs to be managed in a way that benefits the fighters before anything else.
@justas423
@justas423 3 месяца назад
If anyone knows the UFC politics, matchmaking, pay etc. this is just gonna be a rehash of that but with 1000x the money being thrown around.
@alex.toader
@alex.toader 3 месяца назад
Boxing is partly entertaining, partly fighting skill. More belts = more entertaining while with one belt, we will be entertained only once a year. So why take the belts away if he is making the good fights? The fights are more relevant if they are for some shiny belt. Lets stick to more belts :) Also - Saudis are not known to be like a solid democracy or something. Would you give them all the boxing in the world and then (maybe Turky leaves) they fkitup big time? I don't trust this!
@seanisnotjohn
@seanisnotjohn 3 месяца назад
You don't need a meaningless belt on the line for a fight to be entertaining
@alex.toader
@alex.toader 3 месяца назад
@@seanisnotjohn Yes you do. A fight for a belt is waaaay more catchy than one for no belt. For the public and also for the boxers.
@SquinkyThreepwood
@SquinkyThreepwood 3 месяца назад
@@alex.toader Maybe that's true for the casual public who don't realise just how many belts there are, but I think most boxing fans have reached the point where they view them as a meaningless shiny. The names completely outrank the titles now rather than being on a par as back in the older days. Strip Bivol and Beterbiev of their belts and it won't dent the excitement of the fight at all. You have a point about leaving it all in the Saudis hands, though. When they eventually lose interest, it could leave a massive blackhole in sport when they depart.
@alex.toader
@alex.toader 3 месяца назад
@@SquinkyThreepwood no... so now Beterbiev has 2 or 3 belts and Bivol has one. Bivol defended his belt a few times. That was exciting, wasn't it? and now we have a clash of champions - belt holders - that is cool isn't it?
@seanisnotjohn
@seanisnotjohn 3 месяца назад
@@alex.toader You just have Autism I guess 🤷🏼‍♂️
@justneedalogin
@justneedalogin 3 месяца назад
I like the idea of the best fighting the best. However, the beauty of the mandatory system is that styles make fights and that's how upsets happen. When Buster Douglas beat Tyson, he wasn't a top 15 fighter so he wouldn't have been part of a boxing super league. Same goes for Leon Spinks when he beat Ali. Same goes for Michael Spinks when he beat Holmes. And so on. Upsets are what make the HW division particularly intriguing and this would be lost under a super league type of system.
@Theboxingobserver
@Theboxingobserver 3 месяца назад
Can see this playing out like Gilberto Ramirez wiping out my weekend 1477-1 accumulator in the early kickoff with a shock KO loss to Viddal Reily. 😬
@IggyGoesPop666
@IggyGoesPop666 3 месяца назад
Mr Shubbly Tuck Tuck already owns Warren & Hearn's so why would he feel the need to buy all of their boxers? As for Shalom, its a Ranger v Celtic thing so Benny Boy & his boxers would not be allowed anywhere near the top table so his stable of boxers would eventually jump ship and join the Shiekh for nothing
@lloydbarrett5055
@lloydbarrett5055 3 месяца назад
I think its mad that casuals moan about atmosphere when we are getting the fights we want, the only difference is saudi dont serve alcohol to sniifed up yobs that provide the atmosphere we are used to in the uk or us. Like it or not saudi have changed the game for the better and provide elite fights thats boxing fans want and are paying the fighters plenty to save avoiding the politics that have hindered boxing for decades. As a true boxing fan i dont watch boxing for atmosphere i watch it for great fights!!
@SuzyMoore-ob3pp
@SuzyMoore-ob3pp 3 месяца назад
"Yobs"? It's fighting so it's all about "yobs"
@lloydbarrett5055
@lloydbarrett5055 3 месяца назад
No it's not, boxing is a sport and true fans enjoy the sport of combat and appreciate the skills that the professionals risk there lives for to provide for there families and to be great at what they do. Half the crowd are out for a good time getting pissed not for the boxing if they were there for the boxing the yobs wouldn't be falling over the place shouting and fighting in the crowd, fans support, yobs support habits!!
@phnxsteve7up
@phnxsteve7up 3 месяца назад
Pauli malignaggi just knows if there was 1 champion he would’ve never been a champion 😂. UFC, ONE and other mma promotions have shown 1 champion per division works
@patrickknight8922
@patrickknight8922 3 месяца назад
Absolutely needs to happen. Boxing has been cannibalising itself with these belts and sanctioning bodies for some time now. The idea of being a "world champion" is completely meaningless if there could be hypothetically 3 other fighters claiming to be the "real" champion, because they have a different coloured belt. It's so hard to be undisputed not only in a boxing sense, but a bureaucratic sense too, all the bodies want a piece of the pie. Scrap them all, why should we be loyal to them? What loyalty do we owe to them? They don't give af about the fans
@CorporateSycophant
@CorporateSycophant 3 месяца назад
I don't know if buying all of the major promotions is going to do anything about the sanctioning bodies.
@Lakenbeer
@Lakenbeer 3 месяца назад
This will be bad for media as there will only be the fights to talk about. And less anticipation
@motsy15
@motsy15 3 месяца назад
Love to see it happen. Unfortunately over half the “ champions “ out there will all of a sudden find enough $ to retire. Boxing has become a joke. I’m afraid that no matter what Turk does he can’t stop corruption. Paid off refs and judges are the main weapons of the promoters and regardless of what you pay them the promoters can offer a little extra to see things their way.
@EldenRingClipsAndCriticalHits
@EldenRingClipsAndCriticalHits 3 месяца назад
Rather than buy out the promotion companies, why not buy all the sanctioning bodies. Then they’ll have the power to enforce exciting mandatories and can actually make the champions fight each other. That achieves the same goal as the league without having to make a complicated league structure
@MarleneSB
@MarleneSB 3 месяца назад
Buying up the promotions is less helpful than buying up all the belts, then binning them. You need promotors to sell fights, most fighters are not gobby salesmen, so you need a mouth to get people excited. Its all about priorities, getting everyone paid and fairly, getting excitement and atmosphere and lastly getting everyone shiny belts imo.
@brando3342
@brando3342 3 месяца назад
Hell no. This is not at all, not in the least, good for boxing. This is the worst possible thing for boxing to occur in a long time. The fact you think it is a good idea goes to show how utterly clueless you are about the politics, and I don’t mean boxing politics.
@BricktopsPigs
@BricktopsPigs 3 месяца назад
I said this on one of your videos not long ago. Turki to come in and set up a ufc model and fvck the alphabets off.
@Alex-cw3rz
@Alex-cw3rz 3 месяца назад
It was not that long ago when all the problems you talked about were not around and there were mutiple belts back then and mutiple promotions, boxing needs changes. Striping the rights and money away from boxers UFC style is not it, let alone they still have all the problems you talked about they don't fight more, there are protected fighters and from what I've heard the steroid etc. use is more prevalent in the UFC.
@CYMotorsport
@CYMotorsport 3 месяца назад
There’s absolutely zero chance. BUT, imagine The Ring belt but if it actually had power and pockets to make the best fights ? They’d have to let Turki in if there was a Riyadh belt and he could position fighters and maneuver fights so that a gd mandatory actually meant something. He could then create a way to keep those with his belt actively engaged with boxers of others belts to ensure a revolving door of the best talent. Otherwise, buying out basically all of Vegas just isn’t feasible. Boxing in the states has regulatory oversight via the government for starters. Good luck with that. It’s not about money. These goobers are public servants. You’d fully eliminate their assignments. Plus I think you’re heavily underestimating the characters backing boxing In vegas haha like… HIGHLY overlooking that aspect. And the history of boxing in Nevada as well as the players. That we know of. It’s not just the belt systems. It’s the hotels. The venues. The investors. So many more moving parts. There becomes a point where you can be wealthy and throw money at problems but if the goal is to transform the image of the region through sport, they have a path WITH the involvement and relatively hands off approach from Turki. Of he wants to do this, it sounds less in line with their goal and more just to control more of the sport. Thats just my own speculation and of course not knowing the directives or guidance of the their project. For instance you didn’t see formula 1 get bought entirely by anyone in that region. But oil money did indeed buy a few teams and seats in important places with a few more races in the region. I could see this being a purposeful moon shot to negotiate down to making their own belt as mentioned. Not to mention boxers aren’t active enough in the slightest. UFC fighters as contenders fight minimum 2x a year and an active champion will go 2-3. But you wouldn’t need to address that if Turki made his own belt that stood above the rest that was most revered , could have more financial incentives or atleast no fee. Imagine how happy boxers would be simply not paying a toll haha.
@TheInvestmentCircle
@TheInvestmentCircle 3 месяца назад
Yes! Bret and Jemaine!!!!
@AS-pug
@AS-pug 3 месяца назад
In theory it will be amazing. No ducking, no politics just pure boxing and proper recognised champs. And all those leaches like wbc sulaiman can get lost. But the only problem is that it can become a monopoly and some fighters will never get a chance to win the championship
@pz619
@pz619 3 месяца назад
1 belts works perfectly in the UFC. I don’t see why it can’t work for boxing, other than money reasons
@Alex-cw3rz
@Alex-cw3rz 3 месяца назад
There needs to be change the UFC model is not it. That causes less rights for the boxers, a lot less money for the boxers, less freedom to do what they want. The UFC model is horrible for fighters and isn't any better for fans, as fighters are still protected, the number of fights is around the same as modern boxers which is low compared to the past and drug use is rampant.
@zGJungle
@zGJungle 3 месяца назад
Th UFC pay structure sucks, 100%, and will not be carried over to Boxing BUT...The fact that all fighters are in the same promotion and can not duck each other is essential for this broken sport with hundreds of WorldChamps.
@Alex-cw3rz
@Alex-cw3rz 3 месяца назад
@@zGJungle How do we know it won't be carried over, the people creating this would make lots of money if they did. Fighters were not under the same promotion in the past when no ducking occured, and that was because a loss meant so much less, as your ability was based off of what was seen in the ring, it is the fans fault and fighters who left undefeated due to avoiding which is the issue. UFC has protected fighters and ducking occuring all the time. Make it so there are less belts that's how you do it not just have a UFC style promotion 🤦‍♂️
@prof_Pomari
@prof_Pomari 3 месяца назад
@zGJungle they can be in the same promotion and still duck each other or get 'underserved' title shots, happens all the time in the UFC too....
@ethnicalbert
@ethnicalbert 3 месяца назад
The model is fantastic, they just need to pay better. It’s a simple fix!
@Alex-cw3rz
@Alex-cw3rz 3 месяца назад
@@ethnicalbert but why would they pay more this model is designed around paying less. What is fantastic nothing will change and without other major promotions things could get much worse
@ld7103
@ld7103 3 месяца назад
This would be brilliant The best finally fighting each other And the drug cheats gone for good
@Iamneverright
@Iamneverright 3 месяца назад
Boxing super leagues will be a great for the sport, The boxers will get paid great money, and the fans will watch great fights.. Bring it on
@zogzoogler
@zogzoogler 3 месяца назад
Cheerio? I feel robbed wheres the Bosh! keep it up uncle Propa
@razor23Ukraine
@razor23Ukraine 3 месяца назад
The football champion changes just once a year...as well as BB champion and most other sports. And yup, it happens so, that many teams never become a champion. But if the rules are fair then it depends on them, and in this case there is no one to blame. It looks to me that it's actually much more likely now to not get a well deserved title shot. It begins way earlier actually, with "your style is not entertaining" or "you're not from the USA/Britain/Mexico, so we can't earn money on you" and hundred more reasons.
@rightmunted7538
@rightmunted7538 3 месяца назад
The 1 belt thing doesn't concern me, it works perfectly fine in the ufc. Why not boxing. Most guys there get their opportunities to win gold despite champions fighting once or twice a year. Dustin Porier has had 3 title shots lost them all, and is still beloved and respect by hard-core and casual fans alike.
@ragefitness992
@ragefitness992 3 месяца назад
feel bad for boxing fans. that your turkellency guy may be the man to fix boxing
@roastedcowsheart8824
@roastedcowsheart8824 3 месяца назад
Three cheers for the double excellent, Turki Alalshikh…
@XraySpectacles
@XraySpectacles 3 месяца назад
The main 4 are pump they have let their greed spoil boxing so aye it will be great if Turki does it.
@bobdee330e
@bobdee330e 3 месяца назад
Great for boxing and boxers but very bad for the promoters pockets 😂😂😂
@patrickknight8922
@patrickknight8922 3 месяца назад
When you think about it, the belts have very little real value at all, as Tyson was suggesting in the clip. Yes famous fighters have won them in the past, but where did the belts actually come from? Who invented them? Famous former fighters? No. Lawyers and businessmen mainly, who you've probably never heard of. They literally met in a boardroom one day and said "Let's create our own boxing belt, why not?" and the rest is history. As I said, they have very little real value at all
@alexreid4131
@alexreid4131 3 месяца назад
Every time I try and explain the belts to my wife she responds with, “That sounds stupid”. And I’m forced to say, “Yup”.
@theinventor3986
@theinventor3986 3 месяца назад
It's simple, no more hype to decide if a boxers good or not. From now on a boxer credibility is based on a points system determined by who he has fought and how he won...BOSH! 1 point if the opponent was just a tomato can with 2 wins and 60 losses on his record, regardless if you KO him in a round. 10 points if you beat a Crawford by SD, 15 by UD and 30 by KO. That type of thing. This would stop somebody like Wilder being thought of as a GOAT just because he KO'd loads of nobodies and was overhyped to death by Finkle and Arum. Under the points system he would literally only have been a journeyman having beaten almost nobody of note.
@kilokay5506
@kilokay5506 3 месяца назад
Fridge Magnet belt looooool
@M.2018-b3f
@M.2018-b3f 3 месяца назад
🤣😂🤣😅😆😆
@swampthing94
@swampthing94 3 месяца назад
Dillian won the WBC Silver title against Helenius back in 2017
@michaelcalvert6323
@michaelcalvert6323 3 месяца назад
If it's more like the UFC model then it should be done. The best will have to fight the best then
@mrmoon1482
@mrmoon1482 3 месяца назад
WBC is now probably the biggest joke in boxing, scrap them all and have 1 world championship belt in each division, If it’s not defending against top ranked guys within 6 months strip them and put it up for grabs between the top ranked 2, pure and simple
@thetony5474
@thetony5474 3 месяца назад
If this happened the RU-vid lot could buy out Ben lol
@jimbob7924
@jimbob7924 3 месяца назад
Theres so many more professional boxers around than there professional mma fighters. This is why its alot harder to have the ufc model in boxing. The four sanctioning bodies have been needed tbf but i agree, if the Saudis can find a solution for the better then lets ave it me'ol mukkka!!
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