This Civil War Submarine Vanished for 136 Years 

Ooohh, sounds interesting!!

Glad you’re well and your heart is going on.

🖤💜

I missed you!!! Can't wait to buy and read that book!

Can't wait to read it!

I remember watching her TED talk some years back. I could immediately tell she had to be at least 6 ft tall. I’m a little jealous of her. 😅 I always wanted to be a tall, domineering woman. Especially as I was a short gymnast for a good portion of my life. It sucks having almost everyone else tower over you.

We love a tall queen 👏

i had to pause the video to digest that fact

*Overwhelmed short king noises*

I could always tell that she was tall, but I had no idea she was THAT tall. Like, a full foot taller than me is not what I expected.

Posthumously

I had to read that a few times....that was a roundabout way to say it was a bit of a failure

I just laughed inappropriately and I blame YOU.

my thoughts exactly, I salute the hunley for her work

@@sarahakin Seems totally appropriate, to me.

Well, you kept the pump running properly, and were there for a really cool historical event to boot! Not a bad haul, in the end.

I'm Southern... every one of us dreams of digging up a jar of Confederate gold😂

That is indeed a fun story! Sometimes there is gold in the comments section 😂

Wow, what an amazing project to be a part of!

I can only imagine what ran through archaeologist Maria Jacobsen's mind when she plunged her hand into the muck and pulled up Lt. Dixon's lucky charm!

😂me too

Right? Can you imagine your master pointing at that subtomb and telling you, you will be test driving it? _/sigh_

Horrifying in practice, interesting in video game potential.

4ft X 4ft... Truly claustrophobic..

Because fire consumes oxygen as well?

​@@ViirinSoftworksLol, yeah and oxygen tanks hadn't been invited yet.

But she's so funny thoo

My husband similarly calls her the creepy lady but also loves her videos

@@ipshitajee 2 things can be true at the same time

Death flix and chill!

@@gingergoodner9363 exactly!!!

That sounds like such an incredible experience!

That's kinda amazing. 😮

Was it dangerous?

Very cool! And fascinating

@@crusaderknight4792 probably wasn't in the water because then people couldn't see it.

Right?! "Sweet the good mortician posted a video!" wasn't something I ever expected I'd say.

I will be forever thankful that Caitlin inspired me to convince my husband that we should set up a joint burial location, even though we were only just turning 40 and 44, as our wishes were complex; both practicing Catholics, but he wanted a burial and I wanted a cremation… we respected eachother’s wishes, but wanted to be together… in March 2022, we purchased a burial plot we agreed was in a lovely, convenient location in a Catholic cemetery; in April, we selected a headstone for us both which could also contain a compartment for my ashes. In May, my husband was diagnosed was esophageal cancer; not a good prognosis. In July, undergoing radiation and chemo but still able to get around okay, he was able to visit our newly placed headstone, take a picture of it, and tell me he thought it looked good. In August, he took a sudden turn for the worse and never really recovered, though he was able to spend most of his final few weeks and days at home. He died October 1, 2022. Making the funeral arrangements was terribly difficult, of course, but at least I knew where he was being buried, that he had helped select the location and our headstone, and that this was therefore not something for his family to disagree with me about. We had already settled it between us. I recommend this path for all couples; even if you are young and think you have decades of healthy life ahead; ESPECIALLY if you have wishes beyond “cremate me and I don’t care what you do with the cremains!”! 😤

Yes!

So very happy our favorite mortician is back! Solo much better than the drama queen TikTok fake mortician! Looking at you, Lauren.

Omg Caitlin's back!!! 😊😊😊❤❤❤

As the daughter of a middle aged history buff/teacher, it's a lovely situation in which to find oneself!

Lots of us middle aged folks are steeped in learning and discovering more history.

Sameeeee

I think she switched to history because she doesn't want to deal with any pesky questions about those long, white rubbery clots that morticians have been pulling out of cadavers since the beginning of 2021.

Graves under Palmetto Trees, Please those were oaks.

The channel Becauseimmissy_ also talks about this story in a much more lighthearted joking manner if your ever in the mood for a lighthearted video to watch when your bored. Apparently one of the channel members was somewhat related to Hunley.

My grandfather used to say, "We should respect men who died for their beliefs, even if we can't respect the beliefs they died for."

They were still a bunch of traitors defending slavery

I'm white but I feel that the team did a near perfect job of laying out the facts and history without glorifying the men and reason this ship was built. They deserve names as human beings, but also so we can connect them to their crimes. It's easier to feel the impact and learn history's lessons when we know it as a full story rather than a timeline involving nameless faceless actors.

Plot twist....She was a Union unto herself 😂 Forged from Union Steel *maybe She really fought the good fight, and I mean that 😂

@@memeone3043 beautiful words. Can't wait to incorporate that into my life as well. Thank you for your wisdom.

I’m gonna reenact ur conception with ur mom later

Totally agree. An often quote now an interwebs meme from philosopher George Santayana; _Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it_ .. No truer words spoken.. Today there does seem like a lot of repetition going on....

Perfectly said.

Civil war public historian, yeah. These are all subjects worthy of preservation or study. And in some cases that means being confronted by the horrors of the past. And some subjects may be deeply deeply uncomfortable. There is a line of respect and reverence that must be paid, but never let that tread on glorifying or romanticizing or idolizing.

@@stuartd9741 Then you need to look up the legislation that triggered the secession. The new looms that were automated using cards from France then England now in NY (robber barons stole the plans) and they wanted to force the cotton suppliers from the south to sell only to New England at below cost prices to compete internationally. SO the Congress mandated it. The new slaves were in those bustling Garment Districts. The old slaves were about to be set free but could not be under the crushing new legislation. The north set a new example of economic slavery, share cropping. So suddenly to fill orders to France was illegal and traitorous even though the orders predated the law. The ship leaving port was fired on by our Navy. That is how it started the South was fired on then seceded. Are you telling me you would not sign up to defend your house your town when the US Navy is shooting at ships in your harbor and the Army comes marching down your street? Sets up in your neighbors house and commandeers food and supplies? I had brothers from the same family on both sides of the war. My great grandmother as an infant was evacuated ahead of Sherman's troops out of Atlanta. BTW the new weaving card system was eventually adapted to mainframe computers the system I learned in the Army. Then moved to desktops and I assembled and taught those and the software to run them. My son is a master programmer. We learned have you? Or are you a sitting duck for the new legislation giving the advantage to someone else in our country that is not you? Like BlackRock (Putin pointed out most of that money Zelensky said went to fortifications, Putin says what fortifications?). Insider traders like Pelosi. No troops on the border. Hardly any border patrol. But free housing using your and my taxes for the "invaders" coming across it. Any free housing for severely disabled Vets?

How about the atrocity of 65,000,000 American babies being murdered under Roe v. Wade since 1972? Most were black babies.

Speak for yourself . The sons of South Carolina fought and died to defend our state from an invading army . Secession was legal and allowed by the 10th amendment . I am not ashamed of my ancestors , nor do I believe your righteous cause bullshit . Lincoln was a tyrant and was described as such by his own cabinet . The war was not about slavery - Lincoln wanted the southern states to rejoin the union and collect the tariffs at the port and if they did he proposed they be allowed to keep slaves until 1900 (his address to Congress dec 1 1862 ) . But yes atone for your whiteness and cower in shame

She's just checking in 😂

Hurray 🎉❤Love you,girl!!!

Yay!!Yaya!!! And I know that particular sub. Brilliant invention.

@@elsbet1656 it’s like a wellness check but her offering us content to let us know she’s still around 😂

Prayed for this omg

Well said. But I would add being multi-generational southern. My people are from Virginia and Louisiana (before finally marrying into Irish around 1900). We all have ghosts and it's our duty to tell the truth. Our ancestors built and lived on the lives of enslaved black people, and then carried on the tradition of racism with Jim Crow laws and even current gerrymandering of voting districts.

Beautifully put

"Being Carolinian means living with these ghosts" Amen to that, born in Sumter County.

I'm really glad to see a comment talking about how antiblackness has very much not been snuffed out after all the fighting and time. One thing I kept thinking about was how much money and respect were channeled into digging up and preserving this submarine and laying her crew to rest vs. how little money and respect go into honoring the creations and lives of black people to this day. Preserving history is important so we can hold ourselves accountable to and learn from the horrors of the past, but I wish so much that it wasn't so terribly disproportionate to how we treat living and recently deceased people in the modern era.

That's so beautifully said.

At least we still have the Balloon Corps.

I was listening, rather than watching the video at this point and I straight-up heard "US camelcore" and my mind exploded with the aesthetic possibilities...

The fact you're telling me the Submarine Corp sunk means it sunk incorrectly.

Well, they were going great... but then some guy showed up with our missing camels, loaded them with flaming wood and straw, and ran them at our elephants.

Elephant Core is my new workout.

As a blenda white scandinavian woman, I agree with you that there is a difference in acknowledge and celebrate.

this should be like (actual academic) coverage of wwii axis tech. i know death and compassion is her whole thing, but in that case maybe just don't (just don't cover the topic, or just don't as in stay purely technical)? if she feels to absolutely have to, at least make very clear how f* up confederacy was. put into context non historic part, eg both graveyard part, weren't better this video was too tame/humanizing, put nicely. eg elon musk comparison these people were f* up, drive the point home and don't leave it for interpretation

I agree. Erasure of the past and the truth is what *they* do, not what we do. As a bw and the family genealogist, there is no part of American history we have not participated in, this included. Shutting it down and ignoring it is just disrespectful to those of us that came before.

It’s history! There’s good and bad, and all should be acknowledged. We learn nothing from what is hidden.

Aa defendant of a Confederate soldier and a proud Southern Confederate, I salute the men that perished aboard the CSS Hunley, but I get so sick of narrators saying that the War of Northern Aggression was about supporting slavery when it wasn't. This typical Yankee Federal government propaganda used to divide the American people. If you want to know why we went to war against the North, read books and the documents written during the time. Abraham Lincoln, the man Yankees praise as the President who freed the Slaves, had no love for blacks. If Booth had not shot Lincoln at Ford's Theatre, there would be no blacks in this country because Lincoln was going to have them all shipped back to Africa. Think about that, while you are whistling DIXIE! If you don't believe me, read the books on Lincoln's searches and papers that he wrote while still alive.

(and yes my dad was a Clive Cussler fan lol)

People are amazing when they see something that doesn't fit their preconceptions.

Most teachers are great, but teachers (and "experts" in general) who are convinced they know it all and that they never need to learn any new information, probably do a lot of damage to their students' or followers' understanding of how learning and information/facts (and thus "expertise") actually work.

YEEEES. I love sailing in to class (pun intended) all smug with Fun Facts. Once had to look up 'universal expressions' on Wikipedia for my Intercultural Theory professor who was SURE I was talking a lot of nonsense. 💅

I corrected a teacher 3 times, once it improved my grades, twice the teacher hated me thereafter.

Holy Cannoli!! I'd see eye to eye with her 😄

Agreed! 😂

So much POWER!

Lol how have you never noticed she's crazy tall for a woman? Go back and watch previous videos now you're aware and you'll be amazed you didn't see it!

If youre gonna climb a mountain, climb a tall mountain! Caitlin is gorgeous!

Yes; welcome back, Caitlin! Absolutely fascinating documentary! Well done!!

You are so right!

After my dad passed from an illness that I cared for him in his home throughout and took around three weeks to take him, I was left with what I now think was possibly a mild case of PTSD. In any case, I was obsessed with my own mortality in an unhealthy way and never told anyone how I was feeling. It wasn't until several years later that I watched my first video of Caitlin's and was hooked. Eight years later, I now know that I definitely want to be composted when I go. The thought leaves me content and I have been able to make the end of life decisions that would have filled me with unbearable anxiety after my dad's death. This channel has been very therapeutic for me; so much so that I was actually able to be with my MIL when she passed in our home four years later. So, yes! Death is normal and we need to say that more. History is filled with it! So, this seems a natural progression.

Yes, we have separated someone's death from their life. I've been reconstructing my ancestors' stories and there are fascinating things so-called "normal" peoples' lives can tell us.

@@hambeastdelicioso1600 AMEN,,,,,,

Fully agreed. Part of saying goodbye is looking back to when you first said hello.

Our Queen has posted a video! Our Queen as posted a Video!

I'm not sure that any description put on paper could truly convey the thalness and noxiousness of the corpses.

​@ronmaximilian6953 and the smell is why I don't do certain jobs like cleaning up after a fire or flood, forensics (even though I love the subject), and mortician. 😊

More Fun Facts, They make iron coffins out of titanium alloys now, along with generous rubberized coatings. Steel coffins now refers to tanks. Oh yea, we invented the tank in the meantime.

She forgot “Fear of the Dark” (jk)

​@@sierrajohnson717 All Caitlin's phobias about Cave Diving in a convenient portable metal tube! 🤣

People get weird when talking about the crunchy bits of history. But it’s important for us to face them and discuss them.

As I always been told "our family was to poor to have slaves, so we fought for our rights, our homes and our lives"

They may have been on the wrong side of history, but human lives were still mourned by their families. I don’t agree with the stance of my home state during the war, but I can appreciate the fact that Caitlyn is respectful of the dead while discussing this.

@@rangerman9241 No they did not at all. Even people who didn't enslave others were racist white supremacists. They still benefitted economically from slavery, just indirectly. And they probably still believed in white supremacy. That was the reason to fight for the Confederacy. Slavery was the reason the war happened. The "States rights" refer to the States "right" to enslave black people. That war was not about freedom in any way. If they actually just wanted to fight for rights, they would have fought for the black peoples rights as well. If they wanted to fight for their homes, they would have sabotaged the Confederacy to make the war end quicker, so their homeland would not be war-torn and their future would be safe. If they wanted to fight for their lives, they would have fled the Confederacy and joined the Union. They didn't fight for any of these things, just for white supremacy. Don't romanticize those people just because they're your family.

​@@rangerman9241exactly. What irritated me the most about tearing down Civil War memorials in the South was these might have been the only closure some families had for lost family members.

Absolutely.

Confederate or Union, they re all "American" and like all of our warriors fought to preserve their way of life. We can absolutely separate the institutions they fought for from the ingenuity, bravery, and sacrifice of all the warriors regardless of the side they are on and fought according to recognized rules of war for the period. I don't know why government officials would be afraid to attend since the confederacy is part of their heritage, like it or not. In any case the crews deserve full honors as the hero's they were, who elected to do something exceedingly dangerous, above and beyond the call of duty. It's too bad they were not a military crew so they could perhaps be posthumously awarded appropriate confederate decorations for their actions that night.

@@larrybremer4930 Is someone a hero no matter why they die? The duty these men died for was to either making money or to slavery. They did indeed face danger and had insane courage, but imo it goes to far to call them heroes. Adventurers? Technological explorers? Certainly a story worth knowing, of course!

@@FairbrookWingates Would you have said the same of John Paul Jones? Most of the rank and file of the confederate army would not have even been land owners, much less slave holders. They were fighting for their way of life and fear that the Union was going to destroy the South. Slavery was a factor, sure, but it was a side issue of the main reason for the Civil War, whether ultimate law was at the State or Federal level. The Southern States opinion (that really split the union) was that the State had the right to full self determination without Federal intervention, including a right to succession with institutional slavery being just one of many issues where the State said the Federal Government cannot force a State on the slavery decision. In many ways we are seeing that same issue today over legalizing the use of recreational drugs with the States openly violating Federal law.

@@larrybremer4930 That way of life was based on slavery. Documents and statements of the South, by the South, written and written down from verbal speeches on the senate floor, all make it clear that the Union would "destroy" the South by ending slavery. The Civil War was over slavery, that WAS the "state's rights" issue. The state's right to have slavery. If we can't agree on that, there's no more use discussing this matter. Enjoy your evening. (or whatever time of day you have!)

Like you this is the very first time I'm even hearing about this ship let alone a submarine one 😮! As a lot of commentators have already basically said it's history and it should be preserved. Just so long people don't forget WHY she was built in the first place. Even though these people long dead would rather see me & my people enslaved rather than be free they were still human beings. Who had friends & family who would never see them again. While I may hate WHY the submarine exists I can still be amazed at it's existence in the first place in a time period where I thought such a thing couldn't exist yet in the first place. Humans will always keep imagining & inventing stuff for as long as we are here on this Earth. Whether it be for good or bad intentions.

Agreed, we can learn from all kinds things in the past that are not positive. I think sometimes we learn even more when its grim because it sticks with you.

@@TheMeloettafulYeah, I think that’s about right. I can’t imagine not at least remembering this was a thing from a techological and historical standpoint, but I sure as crap also wouldn’t show up to a ceremony with Confederate reenactors! It’s a similar dilemma to one I’m feeling myself… I just moved to a small Texas town with a little pioneer cemetery down the street. Some of the graves predate the Civil War, and are badly in need of restoration, but I know what the odds are that these were slave owners and I’d feel funny if I, a white lady, tried to get a project going or went in to do it myself. As someone fascinated with the history of every day humans, I just think all grave markers should be readable, but I also don’t wanna look like I’m especially eager to preserve the racist’s graves, especially in the current political climate! It’s right across from a park, too, where you always see black families playing together. Imagine those kids seeing some pasty white Karen-looking woman in there in her sun hat and gallons of sunscreen preserving the plantation owners’ headstones. It’s probably a stupid thing to worry about but I worry too much in general…

I didn't know the Hunley sank 3 times!

I agree! I heard about the armored ships Monitor and the Merrimack that was built in the Civil War but not this.

Good movie with Donald Sutherland as Gen. Beauregard.

Sorry, I don't get the joke.

Honestly, the greatest marvel is that they managed to get three crews of men to operate it.

It killed more far more Confederates than Unionists, including its own creator, then destroyed itself, all in the name of ultimately ending up on the wrong side of history. Its a perfect representation of the self-destructive nature of the Southern US Confederacy and those who support it.

Well there are plenty that want to erase our history, probably with the full intent of repeating it. They don't have to burn the books, they just remove them. Ratm

Now we just need Jenna Marbles and Cayleigh Elise to come back

@kated89141 Just stopping by to express my appreciation for Jenna, taking a very public stand of radical boundary setting. And kudos to her lovely golden retriever bf for respecting/supporting it while still maintaining a yt presence. So many thanks for the years of free entertainment she gave me.

​@@carolinecagle3266 I support her decision to leave RU-vid and do what is best for her. I do miss her. I could never put myself out there like that. She is amazing and I hope she's doing great in life.

@@kated89141 yeah honestly. watching what happened to her, how people treated her, the person, was enough of a deterrent for me because at that time, I was thinking of making a channel.

Seriously! It’s been a great week 😊

That’s so awesome! She’s inspired me as well and I’ve been meaning to return to higher education. I had to take medical leave from college, sadly never returned, thus becoming a dropout. It’s definitely not one of my life’s proudest moments. 😔 Do you mind if I ask how you went about obtaining your education and finding work?

​@@misstekheadI met a guy on a dating site some years ago training to work in the funeral home. I don't remember exactly what his ambition was. Maybe a funeral director. Have you asked at local funeral homes how to get trained to work there? I would imagine they'd be happy to talk to you. I don't think they have hundreds of people knocking the door in to work there.

@misstekhead You shouldn't put yourself down because there will be someone else to do it for you. CHAMPION YOURSELF 🏆 I failed my criminal psychology degree this year and realised it was way out of my league, but I tried my best, and that's what counts to me. In regards to starting in the funeral industry, I personally started from the bottom and worked my way up. I started as a limousine and hearse cleaner and driver. Now, I conduct funerals and have a team. I would personally keep your eye out on local jobs that are advertised. Education wise, unless you want to be an embalmer, you really don't need any extensive education. You learn on the job, this may help: • Being committed to delivering excellent client service to the highest standards • Excellent communication skills • Well presented with a professional demeanour • A full UK driving licence •A minimum of 5 year’s driving experience • Physically fit and able to participate in bearing duties • A flexible and dependable approach to work Apologies for the long reply. I wish you all the best in your future endeavours. 🙌🏼

@@misstekhead I just completed an IT project for the New Mexico Department of Health that transitioned all the state's funeral homes to electronic death certificate issuance. I've spoken to two different funeral directors (one in Silver City, the other in Albuquerque). They both told me that in New Mexico, there is a professional certification that is issued by the Office of the State Coroner to any professional whose job regularly requires interaction with human remains. The cert is issued after a pass/fail online test is taken. So this basic certification is normally pursued on a funeral home employee's behalf by their employer. It is a very basic knowledge set that focuses on state laws regarding the handling and transport of human remains, as well as the paperwork associated with funeral/burial insurance policies. Funeral homes generally pay the state for access to the on-line study guide and for a certain number of chances for each employee to take the test. Failing the test requires waiting for 3 months to retake it. I believe the per-person cost for access to the study guide and one chance to take the test cost around $300.00. Obviously this is unrelated to specialized skills like embalming, reconstruction, or open coffin appearance prep. This industry is essential and requires people who are deeply sensitive and who understand how important it is to treat the bereaved with exceptional care. Good luck....we need more people who want to pursue this career path.

Guilty

You know it!

sameee, she’s physically incapable of making bad content lol

Yeah, for real. I actually only even opened YT looking for something to watch while I waited the 5 minutes it was gonna take for my game to download. 45 minutes later…

No hesitation!!!

It isn't a secret- Caitilin has a degree in history

You can hear some of her background in her video entitled: DEMONIC BABIES: A Guide for New Parents

Caitlin has a history degree yeah, she mentioned it in Smoke Gets In Your Eyes

Preserved in a museum, yes.

Unfortunately it's just not possible. You need specific storage conditions and space. The vast majority of excavations have very limited funds and even when working with institutions, space and resources are limited. My first excavation was a 19th century Japanese mill town in Washington state. I almost cried when we had to sort out unique objects and just tossed the rest (the majority) back in the ground. Any artifact of low quality or that there were multiple examples of, we just did not have a place for. I kept some things. That's the legal part of how artifacts fall into private collections. Items that weren't the prime examples. A marble. A broken piece of painted pottery. Nothing fancy or of material value, academic or economic. Things that were just going back in the hole. On some digs the objects declared repetitive can be more impressive. I don't think the public knows how Archaeology works or is funded. I have work stored in basements at at least 5 universities & 3 museums. Stuff that will probably never see the light of day again. And it's less than 1/10 of what was brought up from the earth, recorded and reburied. For every museum piece you see there are dozens of similar items that didn’t make the cut. Usually. Every once in a while we get a truly unique piece. Anyway, we cannot keep everything. There was a 1897 schooner in my area, the Wawona, demolished in 2009 after decades of restoration efforts, including making her a museum ship. The 1926 art deco Kalakala ferry has a similar story, scrapped in 2015 despite public outcry. Every region has sites or artifacts that go through the same thing. We just had a small town vote to pave over what's believed to be the oldest known human built firepit known in north America. It was discovered during excavation required for a planned road project. Despite the historic value, there is no specific tribal connection, and all information likely to be gained from it has been done. It's just a stain on the dirt now, not worthy of reroute the project. For me, it's heartbreaking. But it is true that we've learned all were likely to, and plenty of samples and photographs and diagrams were taken for future research. It still makes me sad. The problem is people don't want to support such things until they're at risk of disappearing. A ship of any size requires a lot of routine and expensive upkeep. Without it, we're left with photos & hopefully detailed notes, blueprints & recorded stories. The ships themselves are lost. Along with so much more.

​@@gypsydonovancan you tell us more about the fire pit? Where was it? What's it called? How old? I haven't heard of it and that sounds so cool

@@gypsydonovan, my wife got a Master of Library Science degree from Texas Woman's University and had a significant amount of work experience in the Women's Collection there. The Women's Collection houses the official Women's Airforce Service Pilots (WASP) Archive, and my wife handled a significant number of artifacts there. She now works as an assistant archivist at the Air Force Historical Research Agency (AFHRA). I, too, feel an attachment to these artifacts and the histories they represent. Being a history major at the undergraduate level and having earned a MS in Studies of the Future and a MA in Sociology, I fear for future generations of people who won't have the opportunity to experience the artifacts that connect us to the people who made their lives possible. I'm especially fearful that sites like Tranquility Base and the other Apollo landing sites will be looted before they can be preserved. I sincerely hope that your response to this video will inspire others to insist that we do more to preserve humanity's histories, especially in the light of the fact that we may think we're done with our pasts. The fact is, our pasts aren't done with us, and the sooner we acknowledge that, the better we may be at understanding how our distant pasts continue to shape us to this day and beyond!

​@@gypsydonovanI figured as such. Every collection only needs one of something to tell the story.

What's that old comment? Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it? Yes, we need the bad along with the good to, hopefully, keep us from repeating the horrors we have committed.

Every time that there is an attempt to cancel some "wrong" factor in history, we all lose a teachable moment and that is, perhaps, more shameful than the wrongs themselves.

I agree. History is about truth, whether we like that truth or not.

​@@DoloresJNurss Exactly. No matter if it hurts feelings or what, the truth is important. The fact people would go into a sub like that is insane. And the one with people cheering with the bubbles popping up thinking it was working is crazy.

So, like a Sherman tank?

"They fed it multiple crews"...so it's like one of those fantasy chests that's all teeth on the inside, but for real. I feel so bad for all their families

​@@l337pwnagewhile the early variants of the Sherman did have some teething issues it matured into one of the greatest tanks of WWII. Easy to use, easy to repair, and easy bail out and escape when damaged, especially with the introduction of wet ammo storage. The idea the Sherman was an ill performing vehicle that burned it's crews is wrong and pseudo-history.

"It belongs in a museum!" They said. Why didn't that happen to the statue of General Lee?

@@MrRAGE-md5rj Because that statue is much more politically charged, this sub is less politically charged because it was never an official part of the navy

Amen

Love THG !

I'm with you. Lest we forgot our historical blunders, or the times when we got it right.

Agreed

I fully agree with that. Without history's good and bad moments, we cannot appreciate the achievements we have made or make amends and changes to the ones that caused pain. We must remember the past so that we can work to create a better future for all

If we can revere the aircrafts and tanks of other morally dubious armies, I think submarines should be included lol

It seems like the Hunley kept sinking due to user error.

I just saw the document series’s back in the day. They didnt go this in Depth

I mean... too stubborn to give up and too stupid to actually do something right is in character for the Confederacy.

and killed just dozens of people underwater

Something tells us that you are not expert in military history. Persisting after multiple, deadly failures is not uncommon.

@@suzaynnschick158 Not uncommon at all. But there's a degree of schadenfreude at the thought of the self-righteous racists like Beauregard having to look upon the results of their experimentation.

Fellow maritime nerds are shooketh!

​@AskAMortician Interesting maritime fact , the largest shipwreck is US history was the explosion of the SS Sultana on the Mississippi River in 1865, it was carrying union POW's from confederate prison camps back up north when a boiler exploded. It killed 1,195 of the 2,200 people on board. It is mostly forgotten because the assassination of President Lincoln had occurred the week before, and the hunt for John Wilkes Booth was a bigger story. And in many ways, the mass death witnessed during the war essentially meant their story essentially got forgotten during the fog of war.

@@connergraham1522 The Sultana's story gets retold a lot these days, but I think a lot of retellers don't focus sufficiently on the context ... and the irony that those men endured the harshness and deprivation of the concentration camp only to be killed by what amounted to a freak accident. RIP to the dead, yea these many decades.

@cmaven4762 Absolutely agreed 100%.

I dunno if you've seen the Time Team special on subs of WWI, but I think it included some stuff about the Hunley :)

Saaame, that show was how I learned about The Turtle to begin with!

A classic of our generation. In fact that show hadn't crossed my mind for twenty years, yet within seconds I remembered it!

Well said.

The Hunley is an important bit of navel history in the same way that Birth of the Nation is an important bit of film history. You can appreciate the tech advancement and what it means for the field without liking the use it was put to.

We dont wanna erase this stuff. We just wanna stop celebrating the evil.

@@JTScott1988 who is celebrating? Are you sure you aren’t projecting? Because Caitlin here has not celebrated the confederates. More she is fascinated by this artifact. I’ve not read anywhere in the comments of someone celebrating the south. Maybe you shouldn’t reach so much.

@@BeannieRey I think you are correct, because in all things Caitlin has said, she has only spoken of the artifact in a light that speaks of the past, the people it affected, and what we may learn.

That show is just a hidden gem of my childhood

History should be as factual as possible. Not propagandized and falsified to certain agendas. Those men fought for what they thought was right and were honorable in their own way.

Well said.

Nor should it be ignored or rewritten.

History is against the rules on youtube.

To "study" means to learn about it. And if you want to really learn about it, you need to study both sides. To understand why men were proud to break from the federal government and form their own. To say "we shouldn't be proud of it" is a deliberate misunderstanding of history.

No this is about dead bodies. And they're bodies from her friends that need addressed.

Fr like watching her videos has got me so many answers on jeopardy lmfao