This controller made my Surron 197% better... (BAC4000 installation + review)

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I put a BAC4000 upgraded controller on my Surron X! If you're looking at upgraded controllers for your e-bike, this is the video for you.
In this video:
- Why the stock surron controller isn't the best...
- How to install a BAC4000 or BAC8000 controller on your surron
- BAC4000 test ride and reaction (wheelies, settings, regen braking, etc.)
- BAC4000 review after testing the controller!
- More wheelies
Green Line Engineering (GLE) also gave me a discount code if you're looking to get one of their controllers: 5% off with coupon code LOGAN5OFF
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7 сен 2024

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@logan-taylor 10 месяцев назад

Forgot to mention in video: they gave me a discount code for y'all to use!: LOGAN5OFF Hope it saves everyone some $$$

@Danielxperez14 Год назад

Your video editing is so good by the way, keep it up brother!

@logan-taylor Год назад

thanks bro!!

@ccsurep Год назад

Ya seriously I wish I could edit like that

@logan-taylor Год назад

you 100% can just takes practice!

@ErtiaAirsoft 2 месяца назад

Hey I know this video is a year old now but I you inspired me to get a controller to use with the stock battery. However, I am having issues with the bike cutting out when I lightly ease onto the throttle. I have been in contact with support but they have been unhelpful saying I need get an android device in order for them to remotely connect to my bike. until that comes in, I was wondering if you had all the parameters for your tune for the GLE dashboard app so I can mimic them to see if that will remedy my issue. Great content and I appreciate any help

@jgasparrr69 Год назад

Bro GLE hands down is the best. I did the same controller by them but no heat sink cause it wasn't in stock and I'm still on stock battery too. World of difference.

@logan-taylor Год назад

YES dude it’s like waaay more of a power bump than I was expecting - glad you had a good experience too

@ATownPyro 7 месяцев назад

What’s your top speed after the controller??

@Buffetology Год назад

great video, very informative and detailed review. Yea that GLE controller is the business !

@logan-taylor Год назад

thanks so much 🤝 i’m super happy with it so far

@VIGGZEN14 4 месяца назад

Whats the Top speed with stock battery

@garrettgoulet 23 дня назад

how fast should my stock surron going with the bac4000 upgrade?

@JIGSAW941 11 месяцев назад

You can literally adjust everything you just mentioned with the sirhan by squeezing the front brake in short bursts and holding it for long

@maximerey8941 3 месяца назад

KO nano controller does it for me easy install downside for me is that you need to tune the throttle a lot at first

@jay_rodriguez96 2 месяца назад

What helmet do you have?

@cameronfowler3261 11 месяцев назад

That looked hard as fuck to install

@marner3085 4 месяца назад

😂😂

@tomdeighton-zk9eo Месяц назад

Do you have a stock motor and battery? Ive got a talaria sting mx3 and I want to upgrade my controller while keeping my battery and motor stock. Any ideas? EBMX 9000?

@3Blindspot3 2 месяца назад

Are you serious? My friend did the same thing and they said that it drained their battery I have a controller but only stock battery and want to put it on, but I was told it would drain the battery too quick

@Ambrose_j_smith 11 месяцев назад

You should try making your own 72v battery, one of my friends did it, his name is Phillip

@logan-taylor 11 месяцев назад

phillip is braver than I.

@connorwagstaff2348 11 месяцев назад

Philips house gonna burn down 💯

@sugoi4983 Год назад

polished & tooling marks is a contradiction, thats just raw

@logan-taylor Год назад

haha correct, it’s just called “polished heatsink” on their website, i think they call it that because it looks polished compared to the black anodized option.

@julianhumm1843 Год назад

the stuff surronster doesn’t show

@logan-taylor Год назад

hahaha

@ultyrone Год назад

Love the video man great job

@logan-taylor Год назад

thanks man i’m excited to see your megaride video

@5150lefont 2 месяца назад

Do these aftermarket controllers last longer than stock? My controller has a "over current protection fault" it works only when it's sunny and warm. It was very hard to diagnose. Now I learn that controllers are like tires and chains, they have to be replaced. Going in I knew that the battery would wear out. I have a second battery. But then I come to find out that controllers also wear out. So it's a 1500 dollar battery and add a 1000 dollar controller... I can buy many gallons of gas...

@Danielxperez14 Год назад

just got my bac installed and im not liking it, mainly because throttle has a delay, do know anyway i can fix that with certain tuning methods?

@logan-taylor Год назад

that’s weird - there should be zero delay. once you’re past the throttle dead zone, does it respond immediately to throttle inputs? It could be either your throttle deadzone making it feel slow, or it could be your ramp-up time is too long. save your current tune so you can come back to it, then start experimenting with those values

@Danielxperez14 Год назад

@@logan-taylor my ramp up is 20 rn but imma put it to 5 and ramp down is 25

@Danielxperez14 Год назад

@@logan-taylor dead zone is untouched and everything else is fine but idk man, the power just has a delay and I can’t wheelie like I used to with stock controller 😭

@josephgermain2003 11 месяцев назад

Now you saying it's way more powerful......now are you talking torque wise, like the bike wants to loop way more now? Or you speaking like top end? I thought that was a direct relation to voltage and since you didn't change that I'm leaning toward the torque.

@SojournONE 10 месяцев назад

I had the BAC8000 from EBMX and it died after 1,000 miles. I paid another $1k and it only lasted 130 miles. ABSOLUTE GARBAGE

@F83.M4 4 месяца назад

Yea it’s a cheap pile of trash mine died after 500 miles

@76o_1 Месяц назад

Get a fardriver they are much better then these overpriced controller I think

@hugobernhede1649 4 месяца назад

does ur friend have 2023 or 2022 surron?

@joordxn Год назад

So I just got my bac4000 from gle, what are the best all around settings. I’m non bypassed stock 60v 40ah. How many watts do I set it at etc?

@logan-taylor Год назад

I run 6kw and basically everything else the factory settings. Depending on your battery health it might cut out if you go full throttle for too long, then you can just bump it down in 100w increments until it doesn’t anymore!

@joordxn Год назад

@@logan-taylor cool my bike is basically new lol. 800 miles on it 😂 “new” I love this thing. we need more surron videos bro!!!

@logan-taylor Год назад

@joordxn i gotchu!

@Danielxperez14 Год назад

Did you bypass battery? And how easy was the installation and tuning? I was looking at emotobros and electro and co but gle has been in my head too

@logan-taylor Год назад

No bypass :) They did send me their kit to try out, so may do that in a future video if you’re interested. Install was crazy easy with the right tools, it took maybe an hour. Tuning is just a matter of setting 6kw for a stock battery and that’s about it! I like EMB and electro & co, but I think GLE wins on configurability and regen which are both important to me. The App is pretty cool too 😎

@Danielxperez14 Год назад

@@logan-taylor yea, do you have the link to the exact controller you have? I checked their site and I can't find the one you have with the aluminum protector. The regen switch is definitely new to me, good idea. The fact that I wouldn't need to bypass makes me want it more!

@logan-taylor Год назад

@@Danielxperez14 totally, the heatsink is actually sold separately: www.glengineering.co/products/true-fin-gle-enduro-heatsink-bac4000 Controller: www.glengineering.co/products/bac4000 they also gave me a discount code in case that helps, i think it’s LOGAN5OFF. The regen is totally a game changer I didn’t expect.

@Danielxperez14 Год назад

@@logan-taylor I'll definitely use your code, thanks logan

@logan-taylor Год назад

@@Danielxperez14 SICK!! I hope you love the controller

@ATownPyro 7 месяцев назад

I’m having trouble using the gle app. Keeps saying my number or email isn’t authorized. I contacted gle but no reply yet.

@logan-taylor 7 месяцев назад

oh dang - i remember there being something about only using one or the other, but can’t remember the details. Have you followed up with them via email? Usually they respond quickly, so they might have just missed your email

@ATownPyro 7 месяцев назад

@@logan-taylor sent them an email yesterday followed up an email an hour ago still nothing. Thanks anyway

@ATownPyro 7 месяцев назад

@@logan-taylor but yeah I’m not using egg rider and removed factory horn and display was just gonna run the gle dashboard but it’s saying my number or email aren’t authorized

@doritodriver9922 Год назад

So that’s on a stock battery and you didn’t have to re program the battery. What is the top speed and if you get on the throttle does it eat up more battery. Also what is the top speed?

@logan-taylor Год назад

Totally stock battery, no bypass or anything. Ironically my range actually went up, partially because the stock surron controller was so inefficient, and also because I use regen a lot now. I maybe get an extra 10-15% range on average. I haven’t measured top speed with a GPS yet, but my friend with the same setup said he went from 45mph->55mph

@josephgermain2003 11 месяцев назад

@@logan-taylor is that with cutting the green wire? or does that controller actually do the bypass without needing to cut the cable?

@logan-taylor 11 месяцев назад

@@josephgermain2003 i believe you don’t need to cut the cable (or technically even plug in that plug) but i’m not sure cause mine was already chopped!

@Lucas-nh2mk 8 месяцев назад

Top speed

@gmurph8210 8 месяцев назад

Can i run a upgraded controller with stock motor/battery??

@logan-taylor 8 месяцев назад

yep!’ that’s what i did!

@5005Alexi Год назад

Does the standard display not work at all with bac4000?

@logan-taylor Год назад

unfortunately not :( but I think GLE offers an eggrider package that’ll plug right in! Ive been running no display though and it’s been great, really cleans up the bars.

@GavinJohnson-tu7bb 2 месяца назад

Top speed?

@LarryRichelli 3 месяца назад

You could have titled this, Pavement Princesses in Seattle.

@lol-em6bj 2 месяца назад

ok boomer

@Shmuelheart Месяц назад

Link?

@anonymous8828 8 месяцев назад

Hey Logan, nice video! I wanna ask because i just got my Surron LBX 2023 and after a bit of use i got that feeling where i wanna upgrade it... So my question is, is there any chance that it will happen something to the Surron? Like will it break in the future after using it or something like that, i mean i'd love to upgrade my Surron for sure but i wanna know if everything is going to be okay after putting on this controller and etc, thank you!

@anthonycurtiskeller Год назад

When are you gonna get the 72v battery??

@logan-taylor Год назад

soon…

@MotoAlias Год назад

You ned to bypass your batterys bms to run much more than stock power you can run like 7000watts safely if its bypassed.

@logan-taylor Год назад

I’m not sure if bypassing is the route I want to go, but the power is tempting…

@MotoAlias Год назад

@@logan-taylor the power increase without a bypass is minimal. The way to go is definitely an aftermarket 72v then you can run like 15kw before needing a better motor. But a nice in between stock and that is bypassing your stock battery. Chi batteries sell there batteries with bypassed bms it's not dangerous you just gotta not overdrawn the battery or you'll damage the cells and also not try andbpull too much power more than what the cells are rated for. I believe surrons can pull 7kw safely tho.

@logan-taylor Год назад

honestly for me the unbypasaed battery was a huge jump - way more than I was expecting at 6kw. But if course the goal is always 72v :)

@MotoAlias Год назад

@@logan-taylor I have a talaria so I bypassed got the bac8000 and went from 6kw to 8kw and its better but really wasn't an impressive jump in power. I'll have a 72v soon and kick it up to some real power.

@logan-taylor Год назад

@@Thedudel-k2r awesome!! If you haven't ordered yet, they gave me a discount code in case it's helpful: LOGAN5OFF

@davius1911 Год назад

what happened to the wrap??

@logan-taylor Год назад

working on a dif prototype - quality wasn’t what i was looking for

@maximerey8941 3 месяца назад

my KO nano has 8k miles

@jdmxtv4824 5 месяцев назад

Stock motor stock battery ?

@logan-taylor 5 месяцев назад

at the time yep!

@jdmxtv4824 5 месяцев назад

@@logan-taylorcheers bro I’m deffo lookin into getting this

@anthonycurtiskeller Год назад

Does the stock battery still show accurate battery charge percentage on the top of it like normal?

@logan-taylor Год назад

yep! The display on the bars just stops updating, that’s the only difference

@anthonycurtiskeller Год назад

@@logan-taylor ordering now thanks for the recommendation

@logan-taylor Год назад

@@anthonycurtiskeller Awesome! You can use my discount code if you want to save some money, i think it’s “LOGAN5OFF”

@ned.15 Год назад

is your battery bypassed ????

@logan-taylor Год назад

nope! Totally stock 2022 surron battery.

@ned.15 Год назад

@@logan-taylor i thought you had to bypass your controller or else it fries it ?

@logan-taylor Год назад

@@ned.15 the battery has a BMS so the only thing that will happen if you run too much power is your battery cuts out to keep itself safe. Then you just reboot your bike and its fine. at 6kw i’ve only had one cutout and that was when i had low battery and I was full throttle uphill racing someone haha

@louietramposch4559 Год назад

🤟👽🚲🎬

@logan-taylor Год назад

hell yeah

@3Blindspot3 2 месяца назад

@jasonhartless3797 9 месяцев назад

Do you know good eggrider v2 settings for Surron stock 60v no bypass & bac4000 controller??? I have the egg Rider V2 coming in the mail, and I'm afraid when I get it I'm going to be completely lost on where to set the settings when it comes to voltage, wattage, kilowatts, throttle, etc. Do you have any references or anything??? Also, the GLE dashboard app doesn't work with my Android phone, it only works with older Android phones. That's why I'm reduced to buying the egg Rider V2 to program my bike.