Borg: “You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.” Janeway: “I haven’t had my coffee yet. Are you sure you want to go down this road?” Borg: “…Have a nice day.”
CAPTAIN JEAN LUC PICARD : " THE BORG , OUR MOST LETHAL ENEMY " CAPTAIN KATHRYN JANEWAY : " I HAVEN'T HAD MY COFFEE TODAY " CAPTAIN JEAN LUC PICARD : " NEVERMIND "
Janeway: (Steve Irwin accent) "Lookie there! It's the borg! One of the deadliest entities in the known universe! One touch of those tubeuls and I'm assimilated! I'm gonna run my ship through their space!"
@@anlumo1 also starfleet used a terrible tactic then lets just send two ships at a time compared to battle of sector 001 where starfleet used swarming tactics which does work better
Chakotay: Doctor, redouble your efforts. Doctor: I went from 8 hours a day to 16 hours a day. Now you want me to work 32 hours a day? Chakotay: I'm not a mathematician.
It makes a bit of sense considering the Borg were engaged in a far more lethal - and high-stakes - conflict with a far more dangerous opponent. And throughout the course of events in Star Trek, the Federation never sought the Borg as opponents, they just blundered into them. (Or Q slapped them into their path) Voyager was NOT the priority of the Borg Collective in the Delta Quadrant, and assimilated information about Federation weapons and shield frequencies didn't really matter considering how ridiculously powerful the bioships of 8472 were: It's more important to focus on the army on your door that is killing you than one ship captained by the species you haven't yet figured out.
BORG: We are the Borg. You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile. JANEWAY: This is Captain Janeway of the _USS Voyager._ Get out of my way or I'll handle you.
Little did the Borg realize that here, meeting Voyager would forever reduce them to inefficient and ineffective Trek villains-of-the-week unable to adapt to the mighty plot-armor of Janeway!
Chakotay: Where do we stand? Tuvok: I pessed a button. Paris: I pressed a button. Neelix: No second helpings for ANYBODY! EMH: I've done actual work. Where's my medal? Torres: I'm looking at the road. There's shit to avoid. The doctor is the only one that does any actual work on this ship!
I don't get why Neelix was even in that meeting! He's just some guy that lives on board at this point. He's like the Guinan of Voyager, but at least Guinan had some experience of the Borg, hence why she was consulted in one episode!
It's a shame that Jennifer Lien went down own such a destructive path in her own personal life :( she seemed like a quite beautiful and intelligent lady during the 90s I myself have been struggling with mental issues as a result of a difficult childhood. I also have acted in ways that were self-destructive and hurtful to others. I have since joined a support group with people who have similar experiences to mine. It is nice to know that one is not alone. That said, I wish I had found that group ten years ago when I sabotaged a promising career and romantic relationship. There is not a single day where I think about this person and what might have been. There are times when it is unbearable. Of course, I don't know what Ms. Lien's issues are. I do hope though that she has found some help to help her get her life together. It is easy to gawk and maybe even laugh at an individual like her. However, we are all human and the line between sane and insane is sometimes thinner than we like to think.
The Borg in TNG: an unstoppable, implacable force. The Federation sends a whole fleet to stop one Borg ship, and the fleet loses. The Borg in Voyager: "lower your shields or we will sHiT oUrSelVes and aEt cRaYonS"
I really wish they had capitalised on the constant Borg threat throughout a couple of seasons, with hints that the Borg were nearby at all times, or had a running battle throughout three or four episodes. They wasted the Borg on Voyager.
@@fabtastic2 Um... Yeah I did, the Borg show up here and there and a few two parters. But they could have had an ongoing problem with the Borg that could have been like Enterprise's xindi story or the dominion war. But they didn't just brought them back when they thought ratings were dipping.
90's Trek just couldn't handle the concept of a serialized storyline. they were way too afraid of "confusing" the poor viewers! We were lucky to get 2-part episodes back in the day...
@@tyhy1 there's a REASON why they didn't look for a 'spore drive', and that reason is this: unlike that diarrhea cbs SPEWS out called 'discovery', Voyager was actually REAL Star Trek. You know, in the SAME time-line/universe created by the Late Gene Roddenberry.
I just re-watched this episode. It reminded me of how intense this was the first time I saw it, without knowing what would happen. It was shocking to think of someone powerful enough to decimate the Borg ...
oh you mean the Queen's ex boyfriend Jean Luc Picard at the end of Picard Season 3? yeah dont fuck with Picard he genocided an entire race of Cyber Zombies! next to that Janeway is a joke lol i think if the Undine heard how Picard fucked the borg over they would leave for there realm and never return lol (im taking the piss here as Picard season 1 and 2 was comedic trash and 3 was Meh)
15 Mighty Cubes.... 1 Cube whipped the hell out of Wolf 359 AND made it to Earth. Through ALL our defenses and HALF (or more) of our fleet. Imagine if these 15 were the next batch sent towards Earth...
There were a lot of problems with Wolf 359. Among which was sending century-old designs (Saratoga), poor tactics ("wave" strikes instead of mass swarming), bad coordination (there are more than 39 ships in Starfleet, and they put their 5th String at Sector 001), poor choice of leadership (Hanson was close to Picard, and should have recused himself when he was assimilated), and massive overconfidence. It was the perfect ingredients for a massacre. There was really no other outcome possible, short of using the ships themselves as massive kinetic energy kamikazes and going to Warp 0.99 (i.e. just short of Light Speed) about a half kilometer outside their weapon range. You'd be amazed at the explosive power of a large mass object like a decent sized starship at relativistic speeds.
@@calanon534 It's entirely possible though that the older ships were all they had in range to create the fleet, I imagine the newer ships were further out. You're right that Hanson should have removed himself from command. I wonder how things would have gone if a Klingon or Romulan had been in charge as they'd be playing from a completely different tactical rulebook than Picard.
@@voteDC That's one of those Canon things we'll never know. I mean, it's been proven twice (Wolf 359, Breen Attack) that the UFoP is terrible at System Defense. I have a huge argument about this on another video - how the UFoP may have utilized results from the Kobayashi Maru test post-2295 to weed out Kirk-like officers and deny them command posting suntil they're much older and thus less brash, then station their families aboard ship as hostages to keep them from making bold decisions (and the "why") - long conspiracy theory borne out by indirect circumstantial evidence seen in TNG and early DS9. You may well be right. Hanson's flagship was a Galaxy-class, but that and a couple Nebulas seemed to be the most modern ships in the line. For a modern comparison, it would be like taking World War I Protected Cruisers and Torpedo Boats loaded up with Mid-Cold War-Era cruise missiles into a formation with a Ticonderoga-class cruiser and a few Burke-class destroyers, and sending them against that alien ship from Battleship the Movie. Given that Bremerton Inactive Yards still has some older ships in mothballs (but not as many as it once did), this may be a legit explanation, and your theory is supported by evidence. The Federation may simply not have had any more Galaxy, Nebula, or other similar "modern" classes available. This also goes into another rant I had about how the Federation in 2360 had such hubris as to still use the Excelsior NX-2k spaceframe as its primary heavy cruiser more than 80 years after it was designed/launched, and that ANY Mirandas were around at all, given that they MIGHT well be the same generation as either the original Connies or the Refits at the very least (given that NCC-1864 Reliant was in the background during an episode of TOS, Mirandas being true sisters to the Connies is a common theory, even if the first on-screen sighting was in Refit Era livery).
4:50 Ensign Kin: im reading 2, no 3, 4, 5......... 15 Borg Vessels! Captain Janway: Shields to maximum, stand by all weapons and inform the Laundry division for a very heavy work load they are going to get alot of brown pants!
I know people like to shit on Voyager because it was loosey-goosey and experimental, but I loved it, specifically for that reason. I grew up on TNG and I knew what Trek was supposed to be, but Voyager was its own version of that. It saw it through with conviction, and that’s why it deserves to be called Star Trek.
They have had years to prepare, and all they can come up with is a few new phaser frequencies? Where's the singularity canon, the temporal shear projector, etc.?
They did not realize that the Borg were in THAT part of the Delta Quadrant until earlier in THAT season (Blood Fever, S3 episode 16) .... and any earlier preparations were hampered by fighting off the Kazon and Vidiians.
Phasers and phaser rifles get passed around. Crewman with common sense: No, no, no! Break out the machine guns and pistols we have hidden along with the ammo! Sharpen everything and anything made of metal with an edge. Knives, shovels, spoons, random pieces of metal we have lying around after every other battle, the captain's coffee mug even. I'm willing to risk weaponizing that even if it means the brig, and that's the best case scenario.
Something that surprised me on watching this scene again... The probe is beamed aboard the Cube and then there is a time jump to when it get hacked and it stops sending a transmission
@xentionX any passage thats opened would have to be recent, otherwise, that area is covered in sea ice most of the year, fairly thick sea ice at that as i understand it. of course, i could be wrong, though using a Wikipeda page as ur primary source is not all that convincing an argument
Voyager has finally found Borg Space. They were told them there are 10,000 worlds assimilated by Borg. I want to know where a first borg homeworld is before they conquer other worlds. They should make next Star Trek Borg Origin how they were created, and there should be one's person who made nanoprode before becoming the borg.
I think the extended universe stuff has had a few versions of this, but I don't know that any of them have been official. One of them involved time traveling humans I recall, and another an alien race whose experiments with nanotechnology for medicine went wrong. I believe some of their origin stories ties in to V'ger, that super-advanced machine intelligence from the early Star Trek movies (where either it helped create the Borg somehow or they modified the original space probe that became V'ger).
I remember watching this the night it premiered on Sky 1 and went "Evil Robot people from the other show!!! yay!" I was like 10, don't be hating on my lack of commentary at the time...
That's a very generous interpretation of voyager though. There's a reason another comment joked about only one of them actually doing work. We're heading into borg space, remember to scan for borg ships, stop giving people second helpings, rotate phaser arrays if we start shooting at them. Y'know, the basic bare minimum stuff to do. :P
The nerve of them to even charge weapons against 15 cubes. It's literally like me putting my dukes up against a f-22. I bet I could do more damage to the fighter jet than Voyager should be able to do against a fleet of 15 cubes. At the very least make the f-15 expend more of its resources than that fleet would have to use against Voyager.
@@exmember1607 That causes space time fabric ruptures. Past, present and future leaking into each other. The quantum and gravimetric distortions are generally natural occurrences according to star trek lore.
Do Janeway&co think that corridor is the Borg politely giving passing ships a way through their space or something? If I learned of areas of Borg space that the Borg themselves steer clear of, I would immediately assume that whatever is in there must be worse than the Borg. And it turns out I was correct. Their decision to go in there makes no sense and is beyond reckless. I would have preferred to brave the Borg. Known devil is better than unknown angel.
"We are the Borg, this quadrant is rife with organ stealers, slave traders, xenophobes, hunters preying on sentients, warring species and other aberrations. Assimilation is the great equalizer, surrender your individuality and assist us in perfection for all species."
I present you : A ship build AFTER 359, a ship MENT to BATTLE them. And so she does. Thats a fact MOST forget when claiming "it made the borg less scary" yea duh! They WHERE less scary for a warship like Voyager. A single Intrepid would EAT the likes of the Defiant and would stand tall even against something like the Akira fighting that behemoth of a warship to a standstill at least. And remember, the Sovereign is the ONLY ship able to 1v1 an Akira and WIN. Bridge Commander did a damn fine job displaying the power of both ships (Vanilla that is!)
and this video cuts off the moment the Borg lost their status as the big baddies in trade for something stupid. : / they made a great over shadowing villain. I was hoping for a whole season of Borg Space since the first episode of Voyager! Not a two parter that had plot device species.
Meris But then when he pulls the tubules out they spray nano-probes all over the persons face and down their body, moistening their clothes. In danger of verging into writing erotica here.
Maybe you'll think I'm the devil for saying this, but I never liked kess's character. To me, it was much more enjoyable when she left and 7 of 9 came aboard.
I never realised watching before just how stupidly powerful the Borg are presented because of sci-fi and its numbers problem. A single cube is more than a match for a single Starfleet ship and more besides, tanking proton torpedoes like nothing. A single Borg drone aboard a Starfleet ship can, if not caught, disable and take control of it. Then they start throwing words like 'Trillions' around when talking about the size of the Borg collective. That is an utterly terrifying number. They can use transwarp drive safely with no problems, so can outrun anyone. It's ludicrous that Starfleet would ever be a match for them
@@fabtastic2 wow that is some revisionist history there. The French...Native Americans..and winter had plenty to do with it. Not to mention the new dishonorable way the rebels fought.
@@jaimhaas5170 That may be true but that doesn't change the fact that the largest and most powerful empire was defeated. You are even making an argument for my point. Mitigating circumstances can account for the underdog defeating the superpower even when they are at a disadvantage.
@@fabtastic2 Fantastic that you brought up the Revolution as it illustrates my point precisely. The Revolution was won not because America was more powerful than the Brits or able to fight them in total warfare but that they caused enough trouble that Britain gave up the colony as the war was expensive and costly. They had a whole rest of the empire to worry about as well as unrest at home. It isn't like they weren't ever placed to retake it either; after all, the UK continued to provide the USA with a navy since it didn't have one of its own until well into the 1830s (see Munroe Doctrine). All this serves to show that small forces beat large forces due to logistics, economics, politics, cost management, and a lot of other things which do not apply to the Borg in the slightest. They will continue throwing disposable Cubes and drones at an enemy until they are defeated, as they have no sense of individual self-preservation, any internal economy to speak of, supply lines, governance problems or any other such things that hamper large forces in the real world. Not to mention that *a single cube* destroyed pretty much all of Starfleet in Wolf 359 and that they can routinely outrun even the fastest Federation ships. There are *trillions of Borg*. Trillions. It'd be like fighting the Revolution against 10,000 Englands with 20th-century warships as opposed to 18th
@@rosePetrichor You must not be very well versed in the series then because you have said a lot that is just demonstrably false. No sense of self preservation? Are you kidding me with that?..lol They sure seemed pretty concerned with preserving themselves when facing species 8472 among other examples of them "caring" about their self-preservation. The Disposable cubes?..lol The Borg do not just go after anything unless it is deemed relevant. And once again you prove my point by acknowledging that small forces can resist and beat larger forces against the odds so what the hell are you arguing? And stop with the Wolf 359 bullshit. That was way before they learned to fight the Borg and do you forget all the technological knowledge brought to the ship via Seven?
