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Plants love CO2.

It's MUCH worse than that!!! The reforming process is NOT 100% efficient, so it actually produces a LOT more GHG than using that same methane in a more 'traditional' ICE! The ICE is surprisingly efficient at converting methane into CO2 and we're continually told that methane is 20+ times worse as a GHG than CO2!

@@Aldoor yes they do, but only so much. If they could just eat up the excess, the level wouldn't rise. Humans love water, doesn't mean we can drink up a flood.

But on the other hand the manufacturing of the batteries in electric vehicles are far from environment friendly either.

As do electric motors and batteries, indirectly. it takes nearly 1000 litres of oil to produce one ev battery according to a study by volvo.

Now to the same calculations for battery manufacture/ charging when that first started?

That today. No one focuses on hydrogen distribution since there is no demand. Minute the demand increases the market will flood with competitors for supplying hydrogen. In terms of safety. Yes it is more dangerous than driving around a battery or petrol car but today's technology in the car has increased car safety by a lot.

You nailed it. Making green H2 requires a lot of energy which means wasteful and expensive, There is no way around the physics of it. They should stick to diesel. Batteries don't make a lot of sense either at today's costs.

I guess they said the same when the first automobiles where built. and yet we do not use horses anymore for transportation in most parts of the world. in 50 years people will probably lough about the discussions we have today.

They probably will and they'll probably be riding about on horses again

Also the fact that hydrogen is typically produced using natural gas, which is just natural gas with extra steps. There is blue hydrogen but that's reliant on technology that doesn't even exist (carbon capture) There is "green hydrogen" but that's really expensive because that's renewable electricity with extra steps. Equally, pink hydrogen is nuclear energy with extra steps I'm not too opposed to hydrogen engines for big JCB style machines even if produced using natural gas because of their power requirements , however I am opposed to hydrogen engines for the average EV

Plus Hydrogen is a very leaky fuel, difficult fuel to contain.

@@FoilPowell you guys make some good points. Let’s stop innovation and keep using fossil fuels. 😊

@Matt Simmons these are real issues with this type of fuel source. So yeah, let's use a proven fuel source until we have a real alternative.

Here's one more word to add: Hindenburg.

Ask yourself "Where does all the Hydrogen come from?"... Heck, google it!!! You'll quickly see what a DUMB idea Hydrogen currently is!

Toyota is on the verge of going bankrupt... and if JCB insists on using dinosaur tech, so will they. Ah, that old chestnut of the "Gas companies bought them off". I've been hearing this story for over 40 years. And the real joke? The real joke is that those that believe it are the first ones to stick their fingers in their ears and defend Big Oil's BS about ICEs.

Why would you use electricity to make Hydrogen which is then compressed, transported and then about half of the energy wasted in a fuel cell or even worse in an IC engine? Using a battery to store the energy is three times as efficient. For cars, Hydrogen is a terrible solution.

If you watch the video the main problem is space, trains are a bad example as they have a separate electric source running along the track.

@@mythai9593 , if you watch the video you will see the narrator kept saying “not enough power”, which is wrong. The motor and the battery can easily have more POWER than any of these diesels machines. The phrase he should have used was “not enough energy storage”, which he eventually got to, but not until after incorrectly stating “not enough power” several times.

​@@mythai9593 attached by wires or diesel engines running electric generators onboard

@@imho7250 You have no idea of electro engineering , horsepower/Torque/Hydraulic dynamics, kilowatts P/hr ......................

@@leso204, you clearly have no idea about English if you think that. Why not try to prove any of my comment was wrong? Because you can’t. Now go learn English and then try again.

Yeah, JCB, the company that fought to ensure Brexit happened... and then promptly started exporting jobs to India. Almost as good as Dyson, eh? If you think this is good, just wait to hear what happened to the original dinosaurs. BTW, I've got nothing against JCB products, but ICEs are now dead in the water, latest battery tech (already launched) is simply far more efficient.

This is 4 yrs down the road since jcb started on this. The 2 vids on Harry's farm are really worth a look. If only the big fuel boys would follow through on their "we want to be green" this would be a exciting times.

@@drizz786 No, it wouldn't. Hydrogen has a truly dreadful energy density and is always going to be far more expensive than other forms of energy. Not only that, but the thermal efficiency of ALL Internal Combustion Engines is ridiculously bad, and there is no means to magically change the fact that about 70%, or more, of your energy is converted into heat. OTOH, electricity tends to be ignored. Not because electric motors are inefficient (most electric motors are capable of efficiencies as high as 80%) but because the greatest problem Is in storing that energy. The storage of electricity was largely ignored for over a century, because other forms of motive power were available for things like vehicles. But the reality is that electric motors are very efficient (that is one reason why they make so little sound), and now that engineers have finally got round to working on more efficient storage solutions, wouldn't you guess it? The storage problem isn't nearly as serious as we all thought. In less than 40 years, batteries have gone from Lead acid, with an energy density of 25-35Wh/kg through Lithium Ion batteries reaching 220-230 Wh/kg, to the latest CATL batteries that have 500Wh/kg. And battery chemistry engineering is still in its infancy! I wouldn't be at all surprised to see over 1000, or even 2000Wh/kg within the next 10 years. At those energy densities, not even old dinosaurs like ICE fans will be able to deny the utility of electric motors. There again radial flux motors are going to make our current electric motors look both heavy and inefficient.

@@davidcolin6519 Exactly. Hydrogen is a fools errand, and every company besides JCB and Toyota know it.

@@OtisFlint they also probably knew it, just publicity stunts, greenwashing.

It also takes a ton of ELECTRICITY to charge an EV. Cities don't have the infrastructure to supply electricity if every household had an EV. And a lot of countries are running hydrogen buses to trial.

@@Hunty49 In fact most city's do have the infostructure to supply the required electricity, what they dont have is any form of hydrogen production or supply, anywhere.

Yall should probably do a bit more research before spouting off,...hydrogen cell tech is claiming leaps and bounds right along with all tech,...there are many things just at the edge of working,just a little more time , back in my school days, I would have laughed at anyone saying rocket will launch and then return home .....yall got no vision!

@@Hunty49 A hydrogen vehicle consumes 3 times as much electricity.

@@Hunty49 what an impressively large amount of misinformation for such a small post. 1 "It also takers a ton of ELECTRICITY to charge an EV" In comparison with the amount needed to create hydrogen, not a bit of it, It takes about 50 kWh to create 1kg of hydrogen. The only place I know where you can get pump hydrogen, 1kg costs about $16. OTOH, 50kWh costs me between $1,50 and $9. 2 "Cities don't have the infrastructure to supply electricity if every household had an EV." You know this...How? In a recent episode of Fully Charged, they actually interviewed various people in the supply chain side of the industry. and you are talking out of your fundamental orifice. The Electricity industry literally has zero supply side problems. The only thing I would agree with you is that if everybody INSTANTLY bought an EV, there might be problems. But they won't, will they. Nor is there even remotely enough supply of EVs to do so. The Electricity supply people were saying that, even with an accelerated growth of EV consumption way above current growth, the industry can install the infrastructure faster than customers can buy EVs. 3 "And a lot of countries are running hydrogen buses to trial". Well, that's news to me! And I live in a place whose entire economy is based on building buses. There are plenty of places trialing electric buses, "Eco" buses (which use recycled waste for their diesel engines), and hybrid buses (using electric in the densest population areas, diesel outside. But I am not aware of hydrogen buses being trialed in any significant way. but I'll leave it to Eamon Ryan, Irish Transport Minister to sum it all up, and I quote "The trial results concluded that electric bus technologies remain the most favourable investment option in terms of energy efficiency and real-world emissions." And that was from the 2nd report of hydrogen vs EV buses.

All true.. but if the energy required to produce hydrogen fuel is limitless and provided free by our sun the cost falls to near zero

@@mal6232 The way to convert solar power to electricity is very dependent on hydrocarbons. This green revolution is BS.

Where do you think the electrons to power electric cars comes from? Did you guess nukes and fossil fuels?

​@@mal6232until we find near limitless energy, we will have to use the more efficient technology Cost will guarantee hydrogen fails

@@truth.speaker , hydrogen production will both improve and become cheaper, batteries will never be good enoughto to power industrial/commercial machinery.

To cut the middle-man out, you'd need really thick wires powering any heavy machinery, which would be really inconvenient and quite often impossible. Is it even possible to draw 150kW from electric grid without special contract with local distribution company? Probably not.

​@@kamilhorvat8290he means use a battery 🔋🔋🔋

​@@kamilhorvat8290 if I offered you my hydrogen solution but it costs 10x as much as home charging would you want to buy my car? If it literally cost 10 times as much as electric battery powered cars? Absolutely not. Especially since it's inconvenient to refill because you have to go out of your way to find a station

@@truth.speaker He's talking about CHARGING. Where a lot of these vehicles work, there is no power available. Are we going to drive around semi's with a giant battery pack to fuel up these batteries. A decent sized EV car needs 12 hours at 220 volts to charge. This equipment would need WAY more power. Like 50 times.

@@Hunterhunter-ir9nz most work is done near the national electrical grid Off grid use diesel. On grid, connect for cheap Ultimately you need to travel to obtain hydrogen. But grid power is on site and plentiful. Requires no time taken out of the day for moving machines to filling stations It's a win for BEV

I was going to say the same thing. It's funny the effort that goes into making a video that gives the wrong information.

All the above mentioned are diesel electric apart from very large draglines which plug in to the grid.

The problem (for now), maybe battery cost. There's plenty of space in an earth moving machine, battery weight could actually be an advantage - most of these machines need counterweights, why not put "heavy batteries" there??

@@davidcallanan6887 The problem JCB is trying to solve is a very narrow one, but they do have a lot of equipment in situations that don't have electricity. In fact, they are using the equipment to bring in electricity sometimes. Pump prices for H2 are still about 5 times the price of diesel per gallon equivalent, so there's a long way to go.

@@scottkolaya2110 not to mention that there's what... TWO Hydrogen filling stations on the entire North American continent? Not a situation that encourages adoption of the technology, there...

@Griffin T I agree, problem is if we started tomorrow it takes 7-10 years to build at around 7-10+ billion dollars a pop. Then you got the NIMBY and environmentalist problems. And your going to need to build alot of them.

@Griffin T Not true, "diminishing natural resources" means its gon forever. In true, they can be recycled / renew to make working again. Also, Li isnt the only metal that can be used as salt can also be used to make them along with other metals that also fit the need. In theory, there is enough Li metal for every car on the planent even for future ones, but it does have a diminishing return as we try to get more out, but thats again where the other metals could off set the need for Li depending on the application.

Your first sentence contains one of the most universal principles in the universe. Creating energy can only be done if something gets lost. Put a cup of warm tea on your table and see if it gets warmer instead of cooling done.

To play fair, while I do agree, its not always about making more energy. It can be about storing said engery that would other wise go to waste in a more stable form that can be used later even at some cost to storing it. With that said, it could be used in that way and I think thats fine, but once you try to transport it from one site to another - you already lost the benfit of storing it as a power source and now going back to the same issues we have with gasoline again. It just doesnt make sense to split the resources like that let alone all the problems that will come with this energy source.

Itis almost certain that domestic hydrogen mains are never going to happen. There are far too many problems and it will be ruinously expensive. Heat pumps are the future.

@@thestuckmiddle2958 What are you on about? My comments are about technical issues The government is irrelevant.

Yeah, the "optimism" of Brexit... A dinosaur company leading the last, futile charge against real change.

They have totally failed to address the production, compression, transport and storage problems of hydrogen. Fiddling with an engine to make it work on hydrogen is trivial by comparison.

What’s the price on that excavator, what’s the charge time?

8 hours is not enough.

I have no argument Hydrogen works both in fuel cell and ICE formats. Problem is that at 14 PSI 1kg of hydrogen takes up almost 1 cubic meter. To make it usable it must be compressed and the industry standard for transport use is 10,000 PSI which is far in excess of the average compressor. At that kind of pressure tanks must be purpose built, certified and inspected i.e. hydraulicly tested on a regular basis making the system very expensive to build and run. The other consideration is that if a tank in your car gets ruptured in a collision or similar at those pressures, disregarding the volatility, the resulting explosion will rip a car to pieces. Currently there is no country in the world taking hydrogen production, storage and distribution for the transport industry seriously and to do so is going to take a huge investment in unique equipment and at least 10 years to get it up and running. Even in the USA the only country in the world where hydrogen cars are available on the open market they have the grand total of 47 retail outlets for hydrogen with no plans currently to build any more due to the cost of building and running them.

This technology is so misleading Batteries are clean, silent, SIGNIFICANTLY MORE efficient and can be recharged anywhere Hydrogen is shockingly inefficient to store and transport. Takes hours to make even a small amount of useful energy, and costs astronomical prices This won't be solved. It will never work

Do you own an EV? Of course not, so why the hate? What have they done to you? BTW EVs or electric vehicles include bikes and if you haven't ridden an E-bike, you don't know the joy your missing. When I get some coin together I'm going to by a EUC or electric unicycle, they look like mad fun. Anyway try not to get to worked up about new things in the World, they are created all the time and old stuff still remains.

@@dailyrider2975 Don't get me wrong i love the idea of EV's but the battery tech is so heavy and still lacks the power density to do what needs doing in most applications outside of short range transport of people. E-bikes do seem like fun, but until the battery systems catch up they are just too heavy and lack the range expected. I mean multi-story car-parks are starting to ban EV's due to the weight being a problem when you have double to tripple the weight it makes a serious difference to structures, road wear and tear, brake and tire particles .. and yer i know regen braking helps but not all EV's even have that. Im sure it will either advance batterys or die off at some point.

@@dailyrider2975 Ev's are not new they had them 100yrs ago however they did not compare to ICE vehicles and the development stopped. History is going to repeat itself yet again.

With high pressure forced induction, precision injectors, and lean fuel ratios than prior prototypes.

You can make hydrogen at home with a few solar panels, a electrolyzer, and a compressor.

3 times more electric than the hydrogen produced..

@@1982dscit goes to prove the leftist morons like AOC, John Kerry, and biden are out of their minds. And to think hunter biden gets paid 80,000 per month by Birissma a gas company in the Ukraine.

If you can produce the electricity needed to make hydrogen with solar or hydro dams, it's a lot cleaner energy storage than lithium batteries. It's also a relatively new frontier, capitalistically, so more efficient production is yet to be discovered. Hydrogen storage also needs a lot more R&D.

A lot, but then we can use excess power, that is being generated when we don't need it, to create hydrogen.

Yes but. Hydrogen can be supplied through lines. So storage could be on a offsite facility with multiple safety blocks along the way.

@@STMK02 I'm talking about storing in a moving vehicle.

@@vinothkanna884 In that case even petrol is highly flammable. But yes hydrogen is more dangerous and may be more precaution can be used. Now a days cars are built with so many more security features than they used to back in the days. The technology for Hydrogen cars is not there yet but if they keep building on it and make it safer then this could be the answer to our pollution problems. If not cars then may be they can use it Industrial applications where there can be constant checks.

​@@STMK02 who is going to spend the vast amount of money required to install a network of hydrogen pipelines? This is farce, no farmers is going to drive at JCB speed for 30 miles to top up.

Inflammable like high octane petrol

The idea is not to produce hydrocarbons ( burning diesel ) Doh !!

Ot just use mains power

@@leso204 Hydrogen would still be consider bad because it would still leak into the air, require heavy compress tanks, and tons of energy just to transport it around.

Hydrogen is not toxic in the air.

@@moabman6803 ITs a green house gas - its toxic in larger amounts from being at a lower release target.

i have seen a prototype EV excavator on demonstration on-site it lasted 4 hours before needing a recharge with a diesel genset for 2 hours , the site agent told the company to get it off site as soon as charged a normal diesel 360 was brought in , as the size of the machine increase's the power needed increase's , it's a no brainer ........

You pretty much get the same from Hydrogen as well. Dont forget you still have to make said hydrogen (normally from clean water/drinking water), pump that to a storage unit, compress it in tanks, transport said tanks, store said tanks, and normally move gas from one tank to another tank (in the case of car for example).

We already did, batteries won. Hydrogen couldn't get out of the starting blocks. Its very clear, this is all just investor BS and trying to hangon to a dying combustion industry.

Yes and I suspect we will, but the trouble is that all the development money has been spent making EVs viable, so it leaves little for hydrogen, which should have been picked at the start. It's the whole VHS bs Betamax debacle again.

@@A190xxwell said, its a side effect of capitalism, no way around the waste.

It's because businesses demonize others for they're own benefit.

Infrastructure will develop

CO and CO2 are also in the exhaust since gasoline is a hydrocarbon, hydrogens hung on a chain of carbon atoms, straight or branched. Didn't mean to leave that out.

There are many pieces of equipment (most actually don't) that do not carry a counter weight and would suffer from the extra weight of he batteries.

Takes too long to re-charge, JCB reckon a full charge would last about 5 hours and then need many hours to re charge, due to the high cost of the equipment they need to able work constantly and be refuelled quickly, it is the reason why electric trucks and vans are not much good.

@@noneofyourbusiness3553 ofcorse the solution I thouth of does not work for all machines. But you can rethink many machines, when you think of electricity instead of diesel The diesel engine, transmission, gearboxes, and often hydralic system, will be built with another "ground" Electricity. - Exactly the same problem we se now when legacy aout (many of them) can't build an electric car the way they did an ice dito, do not get the economy, the software, skip the dealer system, stuck in where 100 are delivering parts to the assemblying factory. I think there are solutions, but it takes A new way of thinking. Hope my Englis isn't to bad. Best from StigB. Sweden

@@noneofyourbusiness3553 Like a car. fastest production car 2 sec 0-60 is a four door family sedan that weighs 5 thousand pounds

@@noneofyourbusiness3553 Many heavy machinery never go far on the roads. This offers a very good option to have interchangeable batteries. The heavy machine will come with 2 batteries, one is charging, one is working. Exchange is on the charging station that is located on the workplace.

Fortunately they did not move forward with that. That amount of power through the environment would have huge biological effects

Think of it this way. When covid hit, all the drug developers worked together and solutions were found. The same will be said of Hydrogen and India which has no natural resources is putting all it's efforts into developing mass manufacturing of hydrogen. I doubt very much that Toyota and the rest of the Japanese multi-nationals would have joined together to find the solution to the fuel problem if they didn't believe it was attainable. Also worth noting that Toyota have said they won't be making EV's. JCB is ahead of the game with respect to plant machinery.

Never will be either.

You gotta start somewhere!

The Toyota hydr9gen combustion eng get 300m on 5K of hydrogen, think I got that right,curious,...look it up

Impractical!!!!!!

Hint - take a look at the size of the external tank on the (retired) space shuttle (and that was not just under WAY greater pressure, but also cooled to a few degrees Kelvin to make it liquid) Now translate all that to automotive use.

@@slotripper 300m on £60 of hydrogen, with hydrogen currently costing between £10 and £15 per kilogram. Funny thing is that the MG costs about £22,44 for a similar distance, and that is on the UK's insane electric prices. Where I live (Spain) I can get my electric as low as €0,03, so that's a grand total of 66x0,03=€1,98. So, hydrogen; the bargain of the century. Assuming you live close enough to the actual, or projected 15 hydrogen filling stations in the UK. I'm sorry, but this is f*cking DAFT.

They run for the same amount of time. Most people in the comments have out of date data.

20 years ago I drove a converted Scania gas artic truck in and around London for a supermarket chain,, The truck had six giant cylinders (carbon fibre) on the side,,and refueling was quite easy.. The trucks themselves where not nice to drive compare to a diesel.. But all the problems you mention I feel could be over come. Nitrogen was also used for coolling fridge boxes,, Really I cannot see any issues,,, People in industry are used to dealing with most of these issues.

You clearly did not watch the video properly, it was explained that JCB worked out solutions for easy fueling, that does not require specialized equipment. But yeah producing fuel is still an issue that they need to tackle.

@@rnailo Agreed

And gas stations weren't available when the gasoline engine was invented.

@@donmunro144 That is in fact where you are wrong. When ford started mass production of motor vehicles part of the funding agreement with the oil concerns behind it was to invest in distribution. Prior to that the vast majority of cars being built were electric for that very reason.

Yes your missing something. A ICE is built with simple materials and is easily rebuildable. The hydrogen is created using electricity, and then stored. Basically the hydrogen takes place of a battery but without the exotic metals and components.

Amen brother, the one JCB Backhoe that I was on was an ergonomically absurd pile of garbage! lol

I think JCB is going after the situations that take months of construction that are far from electricity. Even with the inefficiency of H2, It's probably better to truck hydrogen into a location than a set of batteries that are charged.

its also the resorces needed to make the battery in the first place and the life span of a battery is so short

Hydrogen for cars is very likely due to fast refueling time.

@@moabman6803 The fully charged discussion with Greg Jackson is informative. (40mins in). Hydrogen has to be created to store energy before being converted back to electrical energy in a fuel cell. Only 17 % left versus 80% with a BEV. We shall see how it pans out but cheaper EVs set to come to Europe and sodium and/or semi solid state batteries suggest we are reaching a tipping point ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-qUMX7qYc4j8.html

@@philipbroggio9315 Fuel cell vehicles are a totally different topic. This is about ICE powered by hydrogen. Totally different

They're improvement every day in battery technology.

That's a good idea.👍

Show me a tidal generator thats lasted more than a few years and I'll agree. The sea is a much more unforgiving place than many give it credit for.

Clapping your hands together can ALSO be used to create green hydrogen. However, the volumes are infinitely smaller than the volume required to make any type of significant dent in the engine market!

OR you could just use that power to did generate and now have its power be used across a number of applications vs just a single one. From power EVs to powering your lights vs - just your car LOL what a waste of power just to make hydrogen let alone drinking water (can't use sea water without even more loses).

Yes, but using that same energy in a BEV gets you three times the energy efficiency. Renewable energy shouldn't be squandered.

It's not a long way off. Technology moves very fast these days.

What's the life expectency with batteries compared to a hydrogen engine?. In the UK many used car dealers either won't sell EV's or won't give a warranty on them and that is a major issue. No point buying a used EV for £20k only to need to spend a further £10k on replacement batteries. Also fast chargers reduce the lifespan of EV's and also there's the major issue with the supply of enough electricity. Here is the UK for instance.

@@AdrianSams it very much depends on both the battery (i.e manufacture of both the cell, module and pack) and the way it is used. one of the main reasons EV is not yet working with the longest duty HGV is that the batteries constantly need super fast charging rates and multiple charges a day to keep up with the duty cycle which will put strain on the battery causing it to degrade faster. Tesla passenger cars on the other hand - where most of the charging is done slowly at home can easily go past the 8 year warranty without significant degradation. 1500 charges is the benchmark (i.e. ~a charge a day for 5 years or a charge a week for more than you will ever need

Stating the obvious, kudos! There is plenty of room for advancements to make production far easier and faster, lets give it time and see where we are in 3-5 years. I believe it's possible to advance so far that every home will have their own hydrogen production/storage on-site. Now, whether they allow that or not is another question entirely.

Not really. ALL Hydrogen has to be torn from whatever it's chemically bonded to, and that takes a lot of energy.

Green energy.

This will never be in a semi truck for obvious reasons. Density of hydrogen is terrible... it takes about 10gal of high pressure tank to store 1 gallon of gasoline equivalent hydrogen. So for a transfer truck needing around 100-150 gal of diesel you would need around 1100-1600gal of fuel (your average fuel tanker truck is about 3000gal). And that is for medium range trucks with only one fuel tank, dual fuel tanks and 300 gallons of diesel is VERY common.

@@Wingnut353 Thank you for some sanity and actual knowledge.

Hydrogen is more efficient than gas or diesel though. So less fuel is used. You also make up the volume by compression

You can't put a date on converting to electric, you put the money in and when it's developed that the time to implement it.

There’s gonna be a lot of backpedaling on electric cars and other supposedly green methods we keep getting pushed upon us. We don’t have the infrastructure to support a lot of these innovations, and it’s gonna be really hard to extract enough minerals needed specifically for these kinds of applications. The tried and true will keep the world turning as is, we can’t afford as a society to stop.

Synthetic fuels are ruinously expensive and that is unlikely to change.

@@rogerphelps9939 That is correct, they are very expensive but that's because there are only a couple of small companies working on them. Just like with everything else, when the R and D phase is spread out and feasible products are mass produced then prices will come down. Reinventing the internal combustion engine to run on hydrogen is unbelievably expensive as well as R and D in energy storage for electric cars...I don't believe that mass production of synthetic fuels for existing mechanical tech like the I.C.E will be anywhere as expensive. Only time will tell...

fuel cells require platinum group metals which 1. cost to much and 2. there isn't enough to make all the fuel cells

Fuel cells are 60% efficient at best. They are almost as hopeless as IC engines.

@@rogerfroud300 ICE engines are just 25% efficient.

Not anymore. Hydrogen ICE engines are reaching 60% efficiency. Your information is quite old.

Law makers need to back up their laws with evidence that the economy in which the laws apply will still thrive once the laws come into effect.

I'd say you have an interest in saying that for your own peace of mind ! Battery tech is definitely not green, and with heavy use, they need replacing after a year or two - madness.

@@thetessellater9163 What do you mean by green exactly? I don't think diesel or hydrogen engines are 'green' either. A properly managed battery, depending on chosen chemistry, can easily last 10+ years with daily use. Most of the frequent servicing is done on wear items like the tracks, buckets and and other things that come into contact with soil and dirt.

@@thetessellater9163 LOL ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-pOQQTwYkg08.html

Impossible. Literally impossible