Hi Family ! I don’t think Marcus was looking for a thank you from you . I think he was trying to say he did it for his wife because at that time he wasn’t a dreamer like you !! Honestly, I think you missed his whole point but i love the communication between you two .
So glad you put this out there exactly how you did @Blessed! A lot of people didn't see the possibilities or value of social media until the pandemic hit. I traveled all throughout Central America in 2012 alone with a 4-year-old at the time. If I would've known travel vlogging pays in a BIG way, and took it serious, imagine where I would be! But I didn't. At times, people stifle their dreams & creativity to pay bills and to take care of family. It's really only now that people see you can do both! Angel had the vision & she walked in it. That makes her amazing to me! And Tank took care of his family the best way he knew how at the time, I imagine. And that makes him amazing too.
She totally missed it! She was diggin. She really was trying to get him to say something that he wasn’t trying to say. Point blank, it wasn’t my thing or my vision but because you seen the vision I’m in it for you. Definitely don’t think he was looking for a thank you either but kinda pinned him to the wall a bit🤣🤣🤣🤣, I love their dynamic though!
I agree, I can see from his point of view not being a dreamer. He don’t necessarily see the value at first he just knows this will make my wife happy. Now that he sees the money, he’s willing to take it seriously and even start other podcasts. I also see Angel’s point of view where she’s like I wish you just as excited when we first started.
It seems like Angel getting upset because he's not telling her what she wants to hear? I'm not sure how you can compare podcast Marcus from 2016 before sponsors, before he left his job, etc to him now. It's obvious that he grew with her into his own kind of entertainer and that he knows how to enjoy the process now, whereas before he didn't. So of course he's jumping in feet first with Goolzby. He's more confident in this area and knows what it takes to make it work and the benefits of giving it his all. He learned that from Angel. But it seems like instead of focusing on the fact that she helped her husband grow in this area, she's interrogating his reason for doing in the first place? Why does that matter? You can't go back and change it and it worked out for the best in the end so why is this upsetting?
But....yall kept it a buck and talk it through 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽. Now Tank, gone head and leave it at the back door like you be saying and Anglel let the spirit of the twerk lead you 🤣
I’m confused 😐. Both should be allowed to be proud and excited for what they are creating individually and collectively. Without question or concerns that there is anything wrong feeling good about it. Hopefully, all projects will grow and succeed beyond both of your wildest dreams and you both can be happy for one another. Feelings are none negotiable and that’s ok. Angel has pointed out a number of times that she created these podcast and I don’t see anything wrong with that either. #Tanksleyfamily!
The "Back In Time" segment was a great contrast to see how much Tank has evolved. Your energy and responses is so chill and positive.🙂 Kudos to you my virtual brother. 👏
Damn Angel!? Marcus isn't an "artistic dreamer" like you. You wanted to be in entertainment for DECADES, this man just wanted to be your husband. But he supported your dream and helped you BOTH get to where you are. Remember, Kite and String.
And she just didn't want to accept his answer of "No I wasn't into it then, I was just showing up because you wanted to." Knowing his personality on camera/in the blogs that wasn't hard to believe and being his wife I'm sure she knows that. I don't understand why she kept asking. The segment could have been funny or about growth but she was grilling him.
As someone who is married, I didn't think there was anything wrong with Marcus saying he did the podcast for Angel in the beginning. Translation= He trusted your judgment. Hindsight is 20/20. It's easy for Angel to talk about the success now, but it wasn't a guarantee. Your partner is not always going to be motivated to do something new for the same reasons you are and that's okay. It was like she wanted to be showered with praise and thank you's.
This is the same conversation Tank Goolzby and Chance had when discussing their wives as dreamers , kites and them being the string. They simply didn’t see what this social media thing was & it could actually bring in money. The pandemic helped because y’all had our undivided attention but you guys had to go through the growing pains to get to where you are today. Honestly the production on RU-vid and the influencer space didn’t exist back then. Both of your growth has been beautiful to watch
So you can tell the energy was off at the start. However, these topics are more common than not. I can appreciate you both talking it through with respect and honesty. For those pointing fingers in the comments..... this is life and what makes this great and realistic. We are not happy and giddy everyday ,but even on those tough days we can still make an effort to communicate so each person feels heard and find compromise because there may not always be a "right" way or solution. What I learned was some arguments are worth it and some are not. Tone in delivering a response or in conversation is important. And if we both agree to disagree we leave that there and move on. I appreciated this even if it was a bit uncomfortable.
It seemed like something was off at the beginning to me as well I appreciate them so much for this & not putting on and just pushing through I know it's not easy ❤️
Yes, it was uncomfortable for me as well as I saw the argument actually becoming a real argument. I’m so glad that Angel and Marcus know how to not shut down and to actually hear what the other is saying. I’m learning and I’m thankful for their transparency! Much love to you, Angel and Marcus!!!💜💜💜💜
I'm like Angel, I like to get to a deeper understanding when me n my bf have disagreements. Because typically there is a break down in communication or misunderstanding. You can't get to that point without respectful discussion and being an active listener.
I completely understand, there seems to be a “petty” glitch as well as a “listening to respond” verse listening, receiving, processing then respond if need be.
Angel don't realize she's doing the same exact thing as Marcus. If she doesn't have the in depth discussion, then she carries the anger on to everything else.
Whew, I must say that I dislike going around and around with a discussion/disagreement. The problem is usually the words that we use have different meanings to each person. The cliche of men wanting to use a few words in order to get to the point is actually how I feel as a female.
After 23 years of marriage, I understand both points. As a wife, I've had my husband tell me I take our conversations/arguments too far because I'm trying to get to the nitty gritty. He often says we've finished the conversation, why are we still talking about it. He says that as women we talk more than men and so it causes an argument. I get it. We finally agree to disagree and I'm usually the one that just lets it go. Funny, we laugh later after really thinking about it. I enjoy watching both of you because it's like listening to me and my husband. Thanks for showing your realness.
I love you two and how well you seem to cooperate with each other. However I will say it seemed like at the beginning of this episode, it seemed Angel was trying to start an argument. I mean we can't change the past. Considering how they have said Marcus acted previously, why would Angel think he wanted to do the podcast- except to do it for her? She was the dreamer and the one who understood and saw how dreams and ideas came to life in her acting. He would not have known that. So I'm confused as to why she's surprised he only participated for her. And in doing so, he's expanded and now have started to dream as well. Isn't that what we want to see in our relationships? Growth and how we can make each other grow. Maybe I'm wrong.
I Agree. Her argument didn't make sense to me. And this is not the first time she compared him being more excited of him doing his podcast with Goolzby than he was with her. He explained the reason and she kept up the lame argument. I love her but this was not it.
Exactly. Also, why is it hard for her to hear that her husband did something solely for her? I mean sometimes in marriage you do something for your spouse because they want it and not because you're particularly excited about it but in their case it grew into something Marcus really seems to enjoy now. He's her husband. Of course he wanted to do something for her. And she was the only entertainer in the relationship when they started the podcast. Of course he didn't see much in it for him. I'm just not sure why him admitting that is so upsetting to her.
Angel keeps comparing this podcast to Let Us Tell It with Goolzby. Let Marcus love what podcast he loves more in his time because of what he loves to talk about. We love when people talk and be excited about what they want to. Both are great!
Yeah not fair to compare. He’s in a totally different place in his life now. Also like he said he’s privy to so much more information and time he didn’t have before with a 9-5;
OMG Angel...what you said about continuing to communicate and trying to find understanding in a disagreement as a way to avoid that same issue resurfacing in the future sounds EXACTLY like me trying to explain this same concept to my partner.
I so enjoy this podcast. Although I’m a single woman, yet I learn so much from each episode. The nuggets dropped in this podcast are invaluable and I can’t thank you two enough 💜💜💜
I’ve learned so much well . Like you I am single and the dialogue and personal content they sure is so beneficial! I have binged watched episodes dating back to when she was pregnant with Sai & Kai lol
Simply put, Angel wants a “Thank you for pushing me! You were Right🤗“ and Marcus wants a “Thank you for participating even when you didn’t believe 🤗“. THEY BOTH ARE CORRECT! Neither could’ve done it without the other. True love includes sacrifice and they both sacrificed for the other. Great example of marriage 🙏🏾💕
Ain’t gone lie, watched this high as a kite and Angel was lighting Big Marcus up! Eek. Marcus just kept saying I did it for you! That man said “imma stick beside her!” 😂😂😂
Now Angel, why you cut this man off/dismiss him every time he mentions cleaning, being organized, etc? He mentions it often so I believe that’s very important to him just like seeking to understand may be to you. 🤷🏾♀️
I think the tiredness contributed to the misfires in this conversation. Marcus essentially “faked it till he made it” for Angel, and in the end the faking turned to what it has become today.
My communication style is just like Angel. I'm learning that it's a time and place to have those "deep" conversations on not so deep stuff. I used to get in my feelings bc I felt like I cared more than my ex did. I took everything personal and heard it all wrong. We all think we're good communicators but I'm learning I'm not as good as I thought I was.
I be wanting to have those conversations right then and there 😩 especially when I'm not getting the answers/ explanation that I want it can be frustrating but I have to look at it through his perspective
I completely understand Angel's perspective... there is nothing that unsettles me more than not bring understood. And I seek to understand how me and my husband got to an argument or misunderstanding so we do Not get there again. 🙏🏽
Love ya'll. Hence the name of this channel.. That Chick Angel TV this is and has always been Angel's dream, of course Tank did it all (podcast, etc. ) to support you.
Thank you Angel and Marcus for your transparency and for using your personal life/marriage to help others do and be better. It was not uncomfortable watching, it was very good seeing that people can have disagreements/arguments and not be nasty to each other. Apprecia~love you guys 👊🏿💛
Omg, that perceiving that you're talking in circles thing is 100% maddening 😵💫🥴 😆 I've found establishing a goal for the convo from jump to be helpful cuz then everybody knows how to best show up for one another (esp since some ppl operate more from their head, and others more so their heart). Ex: is the purpose of this convo to serve as a vent session, or are we working towards a solution here, etc. 🤷🏾♀️
Agreed. Sometimes ppl go in circles bc their emotional and haven’t had their needs met by the conversation. Stating the goal can alleviate some of that.
But it looked like Angel was deflecting her feelings about how hard Marcus is working on his new podcast to how he felt when they got started. In heated discussions, you have to let the main issue be the main issue or get to the heart of why you’re triggered. But that’s not necessarily for public consumption.
We have to remember making money on the internet/social media/podcasting is still a VERY new concept, barely a decade. Angel was harping on trying to get marcus to say he didnt believe in the money like he didn’t have faith or wasn’t ambitious or a hard worker a little too much. That wasn’t what he was saying and I dont think think he was looking for a thank you either he was saying it was your passion and he was willing to team up for something you wanted to try out. He is not from this entertainment world like Angel is.
This was so interesting to observe. As a single person I enjoy watching y'alls discourse and how you evolved a challenging conversation. Thank you for sharing your perspectives, experiences and relationship with us! 🤟🏾🥰
I'm just like Angel on trying to understand things & being understood. My desire to understand goes so far, enduring uncomfortable conversations is okay with me, but some people see this as an argument. I enjoyed this episode, it touched home.
This was really good, I was a fan before but this made me want to subscribe to the patreon and I will. I feel like y’all are honest and real without putting your whole business out there.
I’m not a dreamer, But I think I understand Angel on this one. I’m a “connector” and often see behavioral patterns, links of concepts, etc and I just flat out need deeper meaning. I’m often hardly upset when I can understand the “why” of my partners actions. Hahahha but I’m learning my man just does stuff MINDLESSLY. I used to think he was lying when he said that but I now believe him. I respect Angel for asking for clarity, honesty, and intentionality from her husband. I respect Marcus for being having his own thoughts and desires in the social media world that he’s now flourishing in. This was such a great topic to chew on 🖤
I enjoyed watching this episode. I saw a lot of myself and the progress made personally. Well done. Your Love and Respect for each other shined through. - Thank you
Right! Angel gives me flashbacks of my ex husband, challenging everything and only wanting to be RIGHT... I love her, but that one thing is triggering. Be blessed ✌🏾😊
@@pamk1967 i would agree but to be honest if you follow the podcast, it’s unusual for Angel to push this hard. She usually let it slide and let Tank have his little “digs” lol. But today, was NOT the day. 😩😩 you could tell even tank couldn’t handle Angel today 😩😩😩
I think God’s perfect timing is a major aspect in life that sometimes people over look. My husband points that out to me all the time. I always say well if we had of done it this way from the beginning we would be farther along but in hindsight of course you always see what you could’ve done better. But what if God wanted you to be where you were in your journey for a reason. I love y’all podcast it reminds me so much of me and my husband.
Tank: 26:20 let me tell you my philosophy on work Angel: mm-hmm No one: Angel: So do you feel like that's the reason why you show so much more enthusiasm with your other podcast with Greg? Baybayy That other shoe dropped like A Timberland boot tied to a stack of bricks 🧱
Surprisingly it did. Yes Angel has made a point to mention this is her idea and she handles most of the work. Hope that is not problematic. Glad that you have brought in some help. Awkward conversation.
@@ThatChickAngel omg I said something that you thought was funny??! Y'all just made my day! You guys create the bulk of the content I consume, so please, keep doing what you do 🥰!
Thanks for being transparent!! Point of communication: To make sure all parties communicating with each other are understood and heard. So communication don't go left.
I'm with Angel on wanting to get to the deeper meaning in an argument or discussion. I have realized my thought process is alot different from most people and I can take things to mean 5 different things, so I have to make sure I'm taking it the way you actually meant it lol.
@@JonathanIsrael708 I agree. It's all about how you craft your follow up questions. I can usually come to an understanding within 2-3 questions. If it takes more than that, then usually what the other person is saying makes no logical sense or they just don't know how to communicate effectively. At that point I don't wanna have the convo anyway lol
So the conversation has to continue until Angel feels there is an understanding? It doesn't matter if Marcus has in his mind the matter is resolved and there is an understanding, Angel needs her own understanding.
I truly enjoyed this episode and it gave me quite a bit of insight on why my own husband and I sometimes struggle with communicating. There are times when we just can't seem to understand each other but with this I can see that we are looking for different outcomes in the conversation like mentioned. One of us wants us to agree. The other wants an understanding.
I see Marcus’s point, everything doesn’t have to be a discussion somethings just require action and moving on misunderstandings can just be misunderstandings and not bigger reflection of the individuals mindset
Classic kite & string. Marcus just couldn't see what you could see Angel but God bless you for being determined to pull out the potential that you saw in your husband. Marcus God bless you for KNOWING that your wife can see what you can't see and TRUSTING her even still. #realtionshipgoals 💜
This is so interesting!!! My husband's personality seems to align more with Angel. He has made that statement before about needing to make sure he's understood. Not just with me but with anyone. He gets frustrated when he thinks he's being misunderstood or when he thinks someone is putting words in his mouth. He'll continue talking until he feels clarity has been achieved. I tend to struggle because somewhere in the middle of his talking for clarity I sometimes (not all the time) zone out. Not on purpose, but it's hard for me when I feel like he's just saying the same things over and over. Then I start feeling a way cause I start thinking that he thinks I'm this slow to where he needs to keep this conversation going and not just end it. LOL! Him doing all this makes me low key feel like he doesn't think I'm on his team. Angel (or anyone with some sense, lol!), what are some things I can say during these kind of conversations that can make my husband feel understood?
@@tcashe you can say i hear you but im having a hard time understanding your perspective, or im trying to understand your perspective do you think you can give me a scenario or explain it in a different way. this shows him you are engaged and invested in understanding how how feeling.
You could repeat what he has said in a way you understand. For example, he says something. You say "Are you saying .. ( give your understanding)..." I tend to seek understanding from others and vice-versa. It's not just understanding, it's the underline feeling and thoughts I wish to understand and express to others. I find that many times people don't say what they feel, or think about something that affects them. Instead they find something else to argue about and not the real thing that affect them.
My husband is you. So when he’s overwhelmed with the conversation we have agreed that he’s allowed to kindly interrupt me and say “ sorry I’m not trying to be dismissive and I really want to come to an understanding but at this point I’m overwhelmed and can’t “hear” anything so can we take a break and come back to the conversation?”. I respect that and we address it at a later time.
I definitely understand Angel. As a wife it can be hurtful to watch your spouse do the exact same thing with another person and be more excited to do it with the other person. I definitely notice Marcus energy is more upbeat in his other podcast (not to say that it shouldn’t be). I do understand things are different for Tank now and he can devote more time and energy to focusing on podcasts now. However, as a wife I wouldn’t want my husband to do something for me and I have to constantly pump and prime him to doing it. Then seeing a friend come along with the same idea and his energy is through the roof about it. I see both sides but I definitely understand where Angel is coming from.
I understand but it’s not fair to compare the two. You’re talking about going from not even knowing what a podcast was and basically doing it for free, and for your wife to help support her dreams to seven years later you’ve seen it blow up you’ve seen the value in it and how your participation has helped it. You quit your career so that you can help grow said podcast and other endeavors, But you also have to venture out on your own so you can generate income on this platform that is not tied to your wife. This is the first time that he has done this, so of course it will be exciting. Why feel some type of way about it?
I personally would feel some type of way because if you say you were doing it for me, I would hope you would do it with the best attitude even if you didn’t fully understand or see the point. I would prefer you not do it than to do it with a bad attitude or feel like I need to force you to do it. Yes, his attitude changed after he saw the monetary gain. So if he said I just did it to see if I could get money from it, it may have come off differently. So it may seem like Greg is getting the best version of him from the very start and Angel had to endure the rough side of him before getting the better version of him. It may not feel fair to her.
@@crystalthomas7155 But, even if it doesn’t feel fair, what can be done about it now? Why be upset now? Isn’t that part of growth? Angel also likes to say that she does all the work and started all these podcasts. So…maybe they don’t feel like they belong to Marcus? But to be upset of something happened so long ago as if it’s happening right now isn’t fair because the person can’t change it.
@Nisha Grant I don’t think Angel is upset. She compliments his growth and how well his podcast is doing at the end. She maybe just wanted him to recognize that he has in fact changed. Also, I believe a few podcasts ago she mentioned how Marcus was eagerly building the podcast space for him and Greg but didn’t bring that same energy building their new back drop. So I don’t think all of this is in the past. Also, if something happens in the past, it doesn’t mean you can’t feel a way about it. Feelings aren’t voided because ppl can’t changed what they did. You can choose to forgive and move on but it’s very much possible to be upset, sad, happy, joyful…etc from things that happen in the past.
I agree with Marcus about the clapback. It's like if you kick me, you can't tell me I can't punch you in the face🤨. You pass a lick, you need to be able to take a lick🤷🏽♀️
First off lm with you Marcus l am so not a fan of Drake & that Back in time segment l remember that exact one lol & l said exactly what Marcus said about doing PODCASTS back then "let me just go do this podcast & get it over with" lol but now he has evolved tremendously and enjoys it & l love it...behind every great man there is a great woman (Angel) and there you go! Communication is key to everything!!
I love the transparency and the vulnerability. I can’t believe Angel is reacting to Marcus saying he did the pod for her like this. 😩😩 Ángel is being such a lil brat. 🤷🏽♀️ I’m saying this as an internet friend. Not as a hater. I love Angel. 🤣🤣 I know I’ve had similar convos in my relationships. I want you to do it because you want to do it- not because I want you too. But that’s just asking too much sometimes. Obviously, this convo is multilayered and there’s more to it than I understand simply because I wasn’t with them shooting in the gym! I’m glad that Marcus lied and the Pod survived!! 🤣🤣
I don't think it's being a hater. Part of being a fan/supporter is still seeing them as real people and they can be wrong or show bad sides of themselves.
Past Marcus was a 9 to 5, climb the latter, pension kind of guy. New Marcus is still a nuts and bolts, bottom line, show me how to make this make money kind of guy. Angel sounds like you need to start using that hot tub you got a deal on. Love you guys!
What is going with Angel being bratty and trying to interrogate her husband about nothing? The point is, her husband has stood with her through it all and is still with her.
Why not allow him the space to say his truth without making it an issue. Why must he feel what you feel…and the throwing it in his face about the decision you felt was best is the main reason men like there own outlets…it was slightly emasculating….men think different, he has a family and worried about his roles differently then you. Your dreams don’t mean that’s his…he supported…what’s wrong with that. I’m like Marcus I got to see first before I let go of guaranteed income…
yalls comments are so horrible and just completely dismissive of angels points and feelings. like wow. it’s like men are the only ones that deserve praise or respect to y’all. wanting acknowledgment and praise for leading your family to something so great isn’t wrong, it’s like it’s actually not even a thought to y’all that women/or wives would want to human respect as well. “emasculating”, well i guess tank wasn’t really letting angel rest in her feminine energy by not praising and reaffirming her intelligence and no how on social media, and not centering her in all he does (their podcast). *i can’t even imagine a wife centering her friends anything over her husbands anything and you oldies not lecturing her on how men need to be constantly praised and first in their wives life.* like y’all are so full of it. “throwing it in his face”, acknowledging reality? 💀 this lil argument is long done and over but wow, the way you guys treated this lets me know how much you guys value yourselves. in your homes there’s probably no two way respect and standards and you would let your husband do things to you that you couldn’t dream of doing to him. shout out to tank and angel, wish y’all had less delusional and biased old housewive fans to truly get equal understanding for both respectable viewpoints.
🎶Everybody's hands Go UP for the Tanksleys and they stay there!!!🎶 And they Win no matter what👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 Thanks for sharing with Us Angel and PLATES aka Marcus ✌🏾❤️❤️💕💕 Tank's LUTI w/ Goosby energy is here today, Angel is right, he doesn't talk that much, good for him👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 That Throwback clip, Sooo young ❣️ Poor Marcus, Angel just say what he says UUUUGGGHHH, it triggers me like when my Ex husband needed to be right, I love Angel, but this part....👀👀👀
Mike Tyson said, 'Social media made you all way too comfortable with disrespecting people and not getting punched in the face for it.' Drake punched dude in the face, (virtually). This may be the only thing Drake has ever done that I can cosign on.
I might be tripping but I feel like I rmbr Angel actually saying that Tank only did the vlogging and podcast bcz she wanted to?? On a few old videos. Also, on TBTB they had a convo about how Angel and Kev were dreamers and it was natural for them to be more creative and less traditional and Tank and Liss' were both like, it was difficult for us, we like the certainty that comes w/ 9-5.
She didn't have to respond... or should've responded 2-3 weeks later. If she was happy she should've known not to respond. I didn't kno she did and assumed she wouldn't had considering the vibe...
I’m with Angel on this. Of course I won’t say it’s a women thing, but men are solution oriented, whereas we are more let’s break it down so the SPECIFICS won’t come up again as opposed to just this particular situation. Because nuance does matter in situations. Especially in solution finding. You can’t try to fix a machine and keep saying “well that 1 screw don’t matter”.. if it’s a problem and there’s an unaddressed screw. Fix it or screw it. But rather fix it.
The wife in the Drake vs troll situation is wrong to an extent. She shouldn’t have replied to Drake or posted that she got the DM. Stick by ya man. 🤣 Sidenote: Marcus walked into a damn trap 🤣 It’s great y’all showing the real of relationships and the love still there.
