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11:30 Been awhile since I saw this, but to answer where Carol got the pills, they were actually Doris' pills. Jessica noticed them when she met with Doris in the office, and later Elliott took them and grabbed Carol to drug her with them to stage her committing suicide. Jessica and co. arrived in time to save her life. I actually love this bonkers episode. Definitely feels like a sweeps episode though.
Oh my God, THANK YOU! I knew there had to be an explanation there but it's really not clear in the episode. And damn, Elliot. I hope he gets sent away with Doris.
“You’ll be seeing a great deal of each other for a long, long time to come” sounds like a cheesy line cops say to criminals before they go to jail in tv, so I thought she was about to arrest Carol and Barbara.
With lines like that I have to wonder if even the writers knew where this was going and instead kept changing the ending right up until the last minute.
Definitely. It's an ending that would make sense if they actually followed through on the Psycho angle, like Norman spending a long time together with his mother.
Yeah, exactly! Jessica said that line so I though "So, the twins are both guilty, Jessica knows it, so they're both going to jail right?" I was right with Roses' reaction when the credits suddenly appeared.
It would also explain Elliot having a picture of himself behind him because they're trying to get people to start thinking about identical twins. At least, that's my head canon for that. It's not him. It's his identical twin.
I love that lamp. It's in almost every show where they need to immediately establish "this is an office. This is an office lamp". I almost bought one. Edit: I bought the lamp.
Or you can be called Man Muffin right now... by random youtube commentors. May not be as intimate or may be too much... Either way, don't let the dreams of the future dictate the plans of today!
From how abrupt the actually killer is absent from the ending, I'm guessing the actress wasn't available at the end of shooting the episode. Could be a reshoot where they couldn't get in contact or could've left early for personal reasons.
Plus, the first couple of scenes with Carol at the tennis event establish her as woman doing her job very well and not standing for any guff from the arrogant male athletes. I was like, wow, you really did learn something from Jessica Fletcher when you were her student. Now, obviously, seeing her car blow up with the guy she was dating in it would be traumatic for most people, but somehow she seemed almost too stable for this plot at the beginning.
Nobody: Barbra: I'll let my sister think I'm dead after our last interaction was a fight, so she'll probably blame herself for this and then I'll call her. That won't freak her out right
@@thishonestgrifter Yeah. Sad as it might be, I can easily see someone in such a posistion deciding 'It's way better if everyone thinks I'm dead, it's simpler for them if the f'up I am simply goes away.'
@@unowen7416 I didn't get what Carol genuinely knew / believed about Barbara - was saying that Barbara was alive part of Carol's mental issue (a symptom of it) or had Carol seen Barbara by that point? The mental health professionals thought Carol's claim that Barbara was alive was denial - but she also seemed to be denying when she really met up with Barbara. And it was hard to follow which of the characters believed Barbara was either dead or alive and which ones were trying to lie.
@@unowen7416 And I don't get why Jessica said Barbara tried hard to protect Carol. As you say, Barbara was kind of freaking Carol out more, and she didn't do anything to protect her from the current situation. Sometimes the show gave Jessica dialogue that defended people in ways that seemed weird.
Considering how chill the police department is in general right after, you know, a homicide detective gets knifed to death during an investigation, maybe they lose a lot of detectives that way. Maybe they’re told to expect it someday and just go with it. 😂
If you liked “Menace, anyone?”, then you’ll love “Game, Set, Murder”! Not sure why this show has multiple tennis episodes or why they are particularly dark. One of the writers must have been working through something. Lol.
Maybe the production company had a surplus of cute lil tennis outfits in their costume storage and wanted to get their money's worth before they got too dated looking? idk how much awareness there was at the time of how badly a lot of 80s stuff would age, but maybe????
The strangest moment for me was realizing that the car explosion was actually from this episode. I thought that was a clip from a different show or movie at first just because it seemed out of the ordinary for this series. That was a surprising brutal murder method given the other episodes you've reviewed.
I mean, murder's murder, everyone murdered is equally dead, but most of the murder victims just get shot or stabbed. I'm kind of surprised this show had enough special effects budget to even show a car explosion.
Me spending my 20's using murder she wrote as an old person joke punchline to me spending my 30s watching PUR's breakdown of badass murder she wrote episodes. Life is odd
@@jaxkommish these days? Yes most definitely crap. When I'm 50 in 15ish years (😱 OMG! 😱 I'll be 50 in 16 years) I hope tv (if it still exists, will be better).
I love Murder she wrote 💕 Funfact: German title of the show is "Mord ist ihr Hobby" Murder is her hobby 😂 Kinda true I guess. Thank you for covering this weird episodes pur
Casting Linda Hamilton is always a lost opportunity as she has a real life twin. That could cause fantastic confusion, do one have a wig? Do both have wigs? Did either kill someone and blaming the other? Are one of them the T-1000?
Well, that hinges on the participation of the twin sister. And while her doubling for Linda in T2 worked, I'm not sure she's good enough an actor (or an actor at all) to have say a lengthy speaking part?
This series has reignited my love of MSW so much I have actually booked to go to a 'solve along' murder she wrote theatre experience where we will watch an episode and do party games/trivia and people dress up as Jess. Christmas can't come fast enough!
What an episode! Linda "Terminator" Hamilton, Bryan "Breaking Bad" Cranston, Van "golden age movie musical star" Johnson, Kelli "Night of the Comet" Maroney... I love the batshittery!
Elliot's confession makes the whole thing weirder. We are told early on that his wife, Doris' mother, is deceased, and that Doris is his daughter and that she has reason to resent Carol. But Elliot has spent most of the episode acting like he likes Carol better than Doris. And he was kind of coming on to Jessica early on - and you might think a guy who liked Jessica Fletcher would cooperate with her against a murderer. (Since that was before any crime happened, it doesn't seem like it had ulterior motives, i.e., like it was a ploy to distract Jessica - unless he knew that early on what Doris was planning?)
tangentially related: I met Linda Hamilton at a convention and she was the sweetest human being. she also tickled my wife and me before a photo op so we had goofy reactions. Awesome lady!
You know it’s a good day when there is a: That Time on Murder, She Wrote in your subscription list. I have to thank you for getting me into this series PushingUpRoses, I started streaming this on my discord with my friends and we take bets on who the killer is. Most of the time we are wrong or completely perplexed on how certain characters are the killer. Thank you so much.
God, this is some Phoenix Wright sh-t, right here. "She's dead; got it." "Ok, she's *not* dead. Got it." "No, it was a hitchhiker that died." "No, she planted a bomb in her own car." "No, she's just crazy." *"Wait, where's the ending?!"* No, I take it back; this is one of those sh-tty Miles Edgeworth Investigation cases.
Isn't that the plot with Ini and Mimi Miney when they tried framing Maya for murder (if she doesn't get framed for murder it's not an Ace Attorney game!)?
"Sissy that walk" is so appropriate since Sissy is wearing a dress that looks a lot like one that RuPaul wore and BenDeLaCreme replicated on Season 6 of Drag Race. YAASS crossover!
I have no idea how I stumbled across this channel a few months ago, but I'm so glad I did. Bindged all the MSW videos in a day. I just love funny videos that recap/crtique old/cosy tv shows and movies, but I don't know why haha It feels like I'm watching the show without actually having to watch it too haha
How bizarre! I love the normal MSW paradigm; it reminds me of the Encyclopedia Brown stories I read as a boy. We get all the same clues as Jess, and the fun is in seeing if I've caught them all and come to the right conclusion prior to the reveal. All the same, this was a cool episode and a terrific review. Thank you and keep up the awesome work!
Actually, if she can find them, reviewing the Encyclopedia Brown shows from the late 80s would be great. I remember loving them but I'm going to bet they were actually terrible.
I absolutely love this show. I think people think of it as being a "soft" show, bc it always shows up on Hallmark channel, or something, but a lot of the episodes are INSANE.
Ironic that Linda Hamilton’s character’s mental stability is called into question as Linda Hamilton has suffered with mental health issues.. she’s been very public about it (this was shortly after Dante’s Peak.. I used to LOVE that movie)
The episode's attempt at misdirection (i.e., Linda Hamilton is Carol and Barbara both) seems to be, um, 'inspired' quite a bit by the Brian De Palma film, Sisters.
The other thing is, while it's not unusual in this show (or even this genre as a whole) for someone to cover up another person's crime due simply to being related to that person (which is what Elliot did in this case) he spends most of the episode apparently liking Carol and Jessica much better than his own daughter.
The most amusing part about Linda Hamilton supposedly having an evil sister is that she has a twin sister (who acted as her double in T2). So...they could have actually gone with an Evil Barbara plot.
They only would've needed her twin if there was a scene with both of them (like for T2). Such as, I suppose, if the evil twin tried to directly murder the good one, like we see her sneaking up on her with a knife, and up to this point we had no idea that Carol wasn't always Carol or that her supposedly dead sister was identical. Could've been pretty neat.
This episode is truly bizarre and I've waited years for you to review it, Roses! I remember watching this for the first time as a teenager and reacting the same way: "What was that and why did they end there?"
Please review the murder she wrote episode, the Szechuan dragon! Because the ending comes out of nowhere and Angela Lansbury is hardly in the episode and yet still dunks on everyone! Plus I love the pregnant Donna subplot.
Please, please review "Jessica Behind Bars" with Lilly Muster and Jan Brady [now that's a combo you don't see very often]. But seriously it's a very interesting episode.
I love these reviews you do for Murder She Wrote! Your take on the episode is always so funny and entertaining and getting to revisit the different episodes is great for a nostalgia fix.
Wonder why the actress who was the murderer didn't have the confrontation with Jessica? Seems really weird to have someone else do the confessing for her. Maybe the actress suddenly dropped out and couldn't film the scene? Maybe she couldn't carry the scene and the director got someone else to do it? Weird.
The car "Brian/Bryan" got into and the one that blew up were two completely different versions of Mustang...not to mention different colors. Sloppy work by the production department.
I feel like this episode really did want to go with the “psycho” ish plot but at some point someone decided they didn’t want Linda to be the killer and just kinda hand way the ending that it was the dudes daughter lol. Even when Jess is talking to her at the end and says “you’ll be with each other for a long time” almost sounds like Jess is comforting her before they take her to a mental hospital or something...just a theory lol
I love it when we get to see Roses’ notes. It always has a “behind the scenes” feel to it. After the video is over, I always go back and read the notes again, now understanding their meaning. :)
Hey! My mom and I love your videos, we are big fans of Murder She Wrote and would really love if you did the episode called The Committee. It’s a fantastic one and we would love to see a video on it!
One of my favorite episodes is “A Little Night Work.” I really like the Dennis Stanton character. :D I love your videos! Thanks for the entertainment during the Covid times. 🥰🦖
I love this series! It made me want to start watching the show. I wonder though...maybe the actress left the episode and they didn’t have time to recast so they did some weird work arounds to get the episode out the door? I have to agree with others though. It sounds like a big sweeps episode with lots of promotion. People were there for Linda Hamilton and they wanted to show her off as much as possible? *eh* What do I know? Lol
My favorite line in this video: "Who took this picture? Look at the composition!" This is a joke for all of the professional photographers and selfie enthusiasts of the world! Bravo, Roses, bravo! 📸👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾😂😂😂
The actress who played Cissy is the younger sister in Night of the Comet. I just thought I'd mention it because I love that movie and I think everyone should see it.
If I encountered people doing that irl completely unironically I think I'd assume I'd been transferred to an alternate universe where everything is just sliiigghtly off.
I've always loved this episode--it's almost like a mini-slasher movie. I think the reason there is no confrontation with the actual killer may be because they changed their minds about who the killer was after shooting the episode, for whatever reason. I think this because if you'll notice in the flashback to the detective's murder, they only showed Doris from the neck down, which would indicate that it was filmed with a stand-in for Betsy Russell after the episode wrapped. Just a theory :)
I didn't grow up watching these, I just knew it was on tv, but after watching a few of your commentaries I recorded the series on the Hallmark Murders and Mysteries channel. I only did it for a month, but that was because I was getting 28 episodes a week and couldn't keep up. Needless to say, I'm going to check Prime or Hulu to see if they carry it because I really did start to love the series, especially the Cabot Cove episodes (you're right that those are the best by far). I hope that 'Murder She Wrote' is throwing some cash your way for getting new people addicted to the series. Thanks for your hilarious commentaries!
I remember that episode, it comes after the Flight of the Dixie Damsel, which is another great episode, and one of several episodes with David Birney, the real life abusive ex-husband of Meredith Baxter, who played the mother on Family Ties. It also has Melody Anderson, who played Dale in Flash Gordon (1980).
I would love for you to do the MSW episode "Keep the Home Fires Burning". It has good Seth/Sheriff (Tom Bosley's) interaction. Doris needs some deep hair conditioner.
I was not a fan of this show in the 80s; as soon as '60 Minutes' ended, I was off to another channel...but I am a huge fan of your episode breakdowns. Keep up the fantastic and always entertaining work.
"J'accuse!" ...Your posts got me into following "Murder, She Wrote" reruns on CoziTv, who run 2 episodes a day and this past week it's been a marathon in honoring Lansbury...This "Menace, Anyone?" episode just played on Cozi, and I watched for my youthful crush on Hamilton since first seeing her in the first 2 "Terminator" movies...Love your other posts on other series as well. The humor! Lotta work put into them, to make them Smooth. You are ridiculously funny. Thank you so much!
Thanks for doing Murder She Wrote episodes, it is one of my comfort shows, I don’t know how many times I’ve seen each episode, but I can always turn it on and enjoy it.
Linda Hamilton and Bryan Cranston were so messed up when they did this episode! Anything Cranston starred in, his character is mostly a troubled person of even killed off, he always does the craziest roles!
okay i've been binging Murder, She Wrote recently and i literally JUST watched this episode yesterday...spooky...but nice to hear your commentary on it while its so fresh in my mind lol i really loved the set up of the episode, i was so intrigued and interested in the characters, and then? it just?? went wild????? i'm glad i'm not the only one that was confused as hell by the end
Two episodes I'd love to see you cover are in season 1, and they are back to back. 1) Lovers and Other Killers, with the creepiest murder suspect Jessica defends. The closing shot of the episode has always disturbed me. It has been a thorn in my brain for decades. 2) Hit, Run and Homicide with the driverless car.
The murder of the detective is a straight-up, overt-as-can-be nod to PSYCHO and the murder of Martin Balsam's Detective Arbogast on the stairwell. The episode's actual murderer, though, Betsy Russell, eventually went on, decades later, to play Jill Tuck, the wife of Jigsaw in those horrid SAW movies.
It's always weird to me whenever a mystery/procedural show does a riff on Psycho that they seem to expect their audience to not already be extremely aware of Psycho. At the very least one of the characters should go "look we've all seen Psycho right? It's like that"
I remember seeing this for the first time as a child. I saw it recently again on COZI TV, and I always love seeing these old ass shows where people who were either up and comers or fading stars had roles. Finding all these established actors in the sea of extras is a fun mystery to solve unto itself. Oh, and YES, this episode was completely batshit.
At the end my partner and I both thought that Jessica was accusing Linda Hamilton's character(carol?). Like "oh yeah, you'll be seeing a lot of each other....cause you're going away for a long long time!" Like they were working together? Weird
2:17 Hey! I had a lamp like that once! Also, nice job on the Murder, She Wrote review. This is the first one I've watched and loved the Lara Bow music when discussing the bizarre plot. Kudos to you!
Just found your channel. I have no idea why this was in my recommended at all, but I love it! My mom had Murder She Wrote on all the time when I was growing up (along with Matlock and Perry Mason) so this brings back memories for me. Also, I love your voice.
