This GPU death was preventable... (thermal paste change goes wrong)

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GTX 1650 dies on an HP Pavilion with a core i5 9400f, was it the card's fault or the owner changing the thermal paste a little too aggressively?! Consider Supporting Me On Patreon? / timmyjoe
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@at0mac 3 года назад

The 4 dislikes on this video are the owner of the PC, the seller, the guy who tried repairing it and HP

@stevencharette7918 3 года назад

its now upto 8 dislikes probably linus and his click of nerds Timmy is way better

@ArcturusCOG 3 года назад

@@stevencharette7918 Linus was just jealous of Timmy dropping the graphics card.

@tomb3782 3 года назад

Nah, one of them is Louis Rossman.

@stevencharette7918 3 года назад

@@ArcturusCOG lol funny true !!

@hdezn26 3 года назад

@@tomb3782 Must of been the fake Rossmann . . . 2 n's for the real one.

@TommyCrosby 3 года назад

Louis Rossmann watching Timmy using his phone as a magnifier as he try to solder: 👁👄👁

@raven4k998 3 года назад

why not send louis rossman the card to fix he could do it for a 100 bucks get the card back up and running oh wait no he couldn't cause the gpu manufacturer would fight him using the right to repair bs just like apple to stop him

@FreakPC 3 года назад

8:30 IT HAD THE SAME THREE PRONGS ON ONE SIDE AND TWO ON THE OTHER... WHY DOES THIS REMIND ME OF THE VERGE...A SWISS ARMY KNIFE THAT HOPEFULLY HAS A PHILLIPS HEAD SCREW SCREWDRIVER

@morrisonsmadness6373 3 года назад

Bro, your chair reminds me of my last office chair that literally, on the day I was moving out of my apartment into my house, broke at the welds on the base and hit the Harlem lean so hard i hit the floor. I couldnt help but laugh, my wife laughed harder. Even my one year old laughed at me. What a day.

@raven4k998 3 года назад

it's fine just don't lean back to far or your so screwed like timmy joe show's I love how he's like oh shit shit shit sqirming to get back up and the chair's like oh no you can't get back up I have you now Timmy Joe

@morrisonsmadness6373 3 года назад

@@raven4k998 I was so dead when he struggled. The worst was when a chair leg snapped I ate tile floor on that day.

@raven4k998 3 года назад

his chair is like haha I have you now it's not supposed to do that well it does now lol

@raven4k998 3 года назад

it's not supposed to do that well it does now

@Timurnator1990 3 года назад

8:56 i think you solder second and third left connectors together .BTW I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS Timmy Joe

@Dtr146 3 года назад

This whole scenario was just full of people who thought they knew what they were doing.

@exxor9108 3 года назад

I think it was full of people who didn't know what they were doing, and they just don't care.

@WouterVerbruggen 3 года назад

About your test GPU issues, it's likely a BIOS thing. These system often are either BIOS locked to certain generations or to UEFI only cards. Also NEVER think an IC that "looks the same" is similar... Very good chance it's very different and you broke an otherwise repairable card...

@jiggy7204 3 года назад

why do i love these videos so much

@aftertheshowmoviepodcast 3 года назад

Waiting for the 5th dislike from the office chair.

@steen8156 3 года назад

Morbid curiosity? That's why I watch them... and my bff is a redhead. Their all a little off, yet mostly great people.

@Jimb0ss99 3 года назад

I love how heavy handed you are with these computer parts lol

@decm8 3 года назад

I feel like a new office chair would be a worthy investment.

@brainiac9579 3 года назад

Your message is really important here: Beware whom you let into your hardware! As for the IC, well, it could be a lot of things. You can't just swamp ICs based on package these days. So, your soldering job might not be to blame, at all. And ripped pads are easy fix for someone with the equipment. I like your funny videos, by the way. Glad you got back to your roots!

@stevencoad9224 3 года назад

Yup, that’s a common package, with the IC destroyed you’d need either a pic of another one or a board schematic to figure out the right part number, It still *might* be saveable if anyone can help you figure out what IC it was.

@twizz420 2 года назад

This comment is gold, considering I've had to repair a PC Timmy gave away to a viewer, just because Timmy didn't know how to install a GPU cooler

@mkusanagi 3 года назад

That component is a transzorb, a voltage suppression diode

@DuneRunnerEnterprises 3 года назад

Oh,my!!!! In no way you do that!!!! You have to get an exact IC,NO JUST LOOKING AS ONE !!!!

@TimmyJoePCTech 3 года назад

OH,MY!!!! now think of the logistics of that. There are no markings on the grain of sand, I'm sure it will be hard to find the exact part number on a data sheet for a HP 1650super. Plus it was dead already, not really a big deal to try? What are the chances there are multiple 3 x 2 pronged ICs on a video card that that are the exact same size?

@leomisterioushansen3781 3 года назад

Actually the guy send me the pic you took to show him and took me 30sec to find the schematics online I'm still wondering why you had that much flux around the gpu were you going to try an reflow it

@TimmyJoePCTech 3 года назад

@@leomisterioushansen3781 size of a grain of sand, I don't have a syringe just for flux I'm sorry

@leomisterioushansen3781 3 года назад

@@TimmyJoePCTech but you still couldnt look up the details of the proper chip details and choose to replace it with one that looks the same

@homelessEh 3 года назад

@@TimmyJoePCTech princess auto's got ya surplus should have 6 pack of lil syringes perfect for flux

@The_Curious_Cat 3 года назад

TJ you should get a digital microscope, very handy for these type of operations where you need to fix something really tiny. You can get an affordable one and still have great magnification. Oh, and a chair... It's also useful.

@stretchable4647 3 года назад

If one of the pads is lifted you may still be able to revive it by bridging the connection between that pin and where it connects to using magnet wire as it looks like the pin goes to the resistor next to the pad that's broken. Other than that you'll need a hot air station to properly place the chip.

@ColJonSquall1 3 года назад

the thumbnail on the video looks like something Louis Rossmann would be triggered by, lol.

@tomb3782 3 года назад

Londex and startech both make power supply converters for the HP Pavilions. As for that Graphics card... Good luck.

@thepezfeo 3 года назад

I think it's pretty common for these HP gaming PCs to overheat with extended heavy load. Adding an intake fan (with Y-splitter) to the side-panel and a decent "down-draft" CPU cooler is a popular fix.

@brykit1972 3 года назад

I love how the chair just gets beat down. 😂

@Babbages 3 года назад

they do make adapters for a regular psu for one of them motherboards and also you could have used a wire to extend out the leg then scraped a Lil off the trace back from where the pad was lifted andd soldered there or traced back to its source then soldered the wire from that leg down there .

@nightbirdds 3 года назад

Get in touch with Tech Cemetary. He's fixed a bunch of cards.

@shaneeslick 3 года назад

Yeah

@nexxusty 3 года назад

I can easily fix that card. I'm in Canada too.

@zaidk9563 3 года назад

your videos make me smile, thank you timmy!

@kylewilkes2091 3 года назад

You can test polarity of the 12v on the motherboard, then rewire a standard ATX 12V to the same plugs if you know what your doing, done it plenty of times for proprietary plugs, so there is always options if your willing to put in the work

@SteelCurse 3 года назад

My chair does the same thing, leans back like a Cadillac, long time lurker / watcher, now be a good time to say love the content.

@macgamer1973 3 года назад

Love watching you man handling that computer

@electronash 3 года назад

The pads on the PCB looked OK, but you could see the lower half of the IC was still mostly soldered to the board, but the wire bonds to the chip itself were broken. Most SMD ICs of this size (SOT23-5, or maybe SO70) have a marking on the top which helps you find the proper part number. It needed a replacement part. If that IC was the only thing wrong, the card was likely repairable.

@ryogaming4771 3 года назад

Man the chair part, makes me almost die of laughter 2 times 🤣🤣🤣😳

@Directory1 2 года назад

Can you test the voltage on the power supply on the power supply output leads for prong I guess and then cut it wire tie it to a better power supply and see if that'll help

@Ashzulla 3 года назад

That got broken by putting the heat sink on the wrong way. I've done it.

@Ghozer 3 года назад

Looks like it was a voltage regulator or similar.. and that 12v stuff is the new standard, it will be replacing ATX over the next 5-10 years...

@olandersnake 3 года назад

You can get cables that convert the 24 pin to what the HP or Dell need. Usually $15US.

@ghallora 3 года назад

5:59 the best thing i've seen on RU-vid for a long time. Made me genuinely lol. Keep up the good work, brother.

@yeah9377 Год назад

got the EXACT same issue, idk what's exactly wrong but reapplying thermal paste went wrong, and no monitor signal

@2011jaydog 3 года назад

hate to see that....little misteaks cost a lot....

@xB2KxRewindZ 3 года назад

I used to have a broken office chair... If I leaned back too much, like not even 30 degrees, I was on the floor. I fell asleep in it one night after a long gaming session sitting straight up, woke up to myself falling into my tempered glass desk. I still don't know how I didn't break that damn panel of glass, but I had the biggest and darkest bruise from that thing. Looked like I had been punched at least 10+ times in the arm in a row, but yet it was just 1/4" tempered glass panel....

@LuxorVan 3 года назад

It's hard to make it out on a gigabyte 1650 super "Looks pretty close to what you have though the windforce has a larger cooler and different location for power in", but from what I am seeing is TVE are the markings on the gigabyte and it's most likely a SOT 23-5 linear voltage regulator, TVE is part # S-11L10B12-M5T1U. Even on the zotac it is labelled L2 "Possibly L29" which is still a SOT 23-5 linear voltage regulator TK71629SCL. I bought a class d car amp once that had a bunch of destroyed SOT 23 transistors and had to identify them, luckily the letters were still visible, I fixed the amp on the first try. alltransistors is a good reference site which I have used many times.

@DuneRunnerEnterprises 3 года назад

Exactly what Timmy Joe should have done!!!

@laurikvo 3 года назад

Oh the irony, after this video I got a HP ad. Enjoy the adsense man from them, you've earned it! I wish these computers would become more open and with less proprietary connectors. Back in the day I had a crappy Acer with iGPU. It was trash but I kept it years because of the possibility of upgrades such as adding ram, storage, better GPU and swapping of the PSU. Also bios had very limited OC possibilities and I was so glad they were there. Learned a ton when tinkering with that computer.

@odinvalkyrus 3 года назад

From the angle of the shot you showed of the after solder job, almost looks like you have a bridged solder joint on the 3 prong side. Just a thought of what I noticed. Tiny SMDs like that are hell to solder. You did more than most woulda even attempted bro.

@Nevakonaza. 3 года назад

That IC looked like it exploded more than it been ripped off :D

@relaxxxrrr 3 года назад

HP and Dell have been making PCs with proprietary 12V PSUs for years now. Usually 8 pin connector. You can build or buy adapter cables. The worst thing is they use a 12V STANDBY power pin instead of 5V so the adapters are a little complex with voltage converter ICs. Google "24 to 8 pin dell power adapter". Anyway you can make your own adapter and force the PSU power on and manually switch the power. I have done this and nothing has burned up... results may vary.

@CrookedNr7 3 года назад

Your energy really cheers a guy up after a shitty day, never stop what you are doing, always stay amazing!

@SudosFTW 3 года назад

Louis Rossman is weeping.

@pietrekk1 3 года назад

Send the gpu to someone which fixes them on daily basis. In Poland there is a guy called "forest" who does that for a long time.

@modderhoop2058 3 года назад

Eventhough normally i would not be scared to replace my paste, with the current GPU situation i kinda am. My 980 Ti has been running on the stock paste since i got it 6 years ago. But temps are still below 70C under load, to be honest i do not think its worth replacing the paste at this time.

@VernonDraws 3 года назад

I know theres gonna be some people here who will say 'omg soldering is so easy and how come he didnt just do it right' i once threw away a whole pcb on my playstation because a screwdriver popped off one of the dram modules... i tried for hours and hours to get it working and i only found out later that the pcb contacts got ripped off and there was no way of repair

@N2tech 3 года назад

Big boys need a really great office chair. I found a Haworth Improv H.E. at the thrift store for $12 seven years ago and it's still in excellent condition.

@user-yz8do8vu1s 3 года назад

That IC was linear voltage regulator. That card probably still fixable.

@MuntiK 3 года назад

Hey man, I got a 1080 that won't boot cuz of a missing chip near the main diode, any advice? I believe that's the main reason but I can't be too sure.

@tech6294 3 года назад

"Forshadowing..." LMFAO!!!!! xD

@Jaaxfo 3 года назад

Gotta Rossman this GPU up. Find out what that chip is and get a new one off Digikey or wherever. You have to make sure you know what that is. There are a tonne of different ICs that come in that package, from MOSFETs to LiIon chargers. If the copper trace is pulled off the PCB and broken, you can still find what it connects to and connect a line to it from the IC directly

@Jaaxfo 3 года назад

That's all assuming that it's worth the effort, and in any other time, I don't think it would be for a 1650, but GPU supply being what it is right now...

@SergiOrtiz 3 года назад

I died when he tossed it in the air. LOL

@tanksor 3 года назад

I have the gtx 1060 3gb from one of those hp pavilion's and the heatsink they use is complete garbage there isn't proper contact between the die and heatsink you can see daylight between the two so i took a blower style cooler from a dead 660ti and threw it on there with very minimal modification.

@PokèMyBalls 3 года назад

This is why I always let customers see a system working before they buy. I also stay in touch to make sure everything gets setup properly.

@jay-gi9dk 3 года назад

any hp after second gen intel takes a special psu,dells went to 3rd gen then switched over

@stevencharette7918 3 года назад

yay its a Timmy joe pc video super excited

@elmomz 3 года назад

3:48 1 short + 3 long beeps = no vga detected. -> try to connect hdmi cable with the VGA, not the onboard HDMI?

@paulthebeardedonedowning6820 3 года назад

I'd of had fun attempting repair I've used the camera magnifying method on a type c port on the switch the pins got squished on one side so rather than attempt a solder job having to buy all that shit I broke all the pins off on one side so it would still charge if the connector was in one way pretty cool fix I was quite proud of lol

@crossfire4902 3 года назад

Good job Timmy nice video as always!!

@Le_Grand_Rigatoni 3 года назад

You should have tried to read the reference of the IC, maybe the one from the other card was the same package but not actually the same chip.

@gregrayner9965 3 года назад

the nvidia 6xx and older will not work in a uefi only bios

@kirkblack2310 3 года назад

Soldering that back on is easy if you have a SMC rework heatgun. If the chip is broken you can order a new one possibly

@PCTechHustle 3 года назад

Biggest RIP here is TJ’s chair

@panteradown2 3 года назад

what happened to the corsair chair?

@H4WK6969 3 года назад

Buy one of those office chairs that are designed for 24/7 use, they last for ages.

@HayBayle 3 года назад

Props for trying to solder with donor parts!

@ahmetrefikeryilmaz4432 3 года назад

If that was indeed an ic you couldn't just replace it with something that looks alike. Its a different integrated circuit that does a different thing.

@Heinz76Harald 3 года назад

1:24 well, its yelling for help S O S !

@Middcore 3 года назад

I appreciate how you yell "contact" like you're starting a World War I Sopwith Camel.

@GeorgeJFW 3 года назад

Get this man a GD chair!!!

@ig33ku 3 года назад

U12 is part of the bios if i remember correctly since I need to jump those suckers for bad bios flashing on mining cards of AMD's RX cards.

@briAction 3 года назад

Probably a linear regulator, which means it isn't providing power. It's probably pretty easily replaceable.

@Delistd 3 года назад

Damn Timmy Joe, don't you know the beeps are for diagnostics? You can look up the beep codes.

@JbrZee 3 года назад

they sell adapters for the psu

@SuperNapolitanka 3 года назад

Timmy has to be repainting this cases before shipping them out :)

@Nmason7665 3 года назад

Hey Timmy Joe, sorry for the repeat I just don't know what to do anymore. I need help my computer has randomly started resetting when under low load. I'm not sure what to do anymore I reset windows which lasted about 24 hours. This is starting to affect my school work and my professors are anything but forgiving. I've looked into the problem and It usually returns with things I need to do in BIOS (cpu power settings) although I have no idea what do to, there are so many different BIOS'. I'm also worried about making irreversible changes because I'm not in the position to replace parts right now. All I have found out so far is that there is a chance that my mobo is starving my cpu of power when near idle. My motherboard is an Msi z370 gaming pro carbon and my cpu is an Intel i9-9900k.

@stevenc5227 3 года назад

@nmason7665 you could change power mode to high performance and see if that helps.

@Nmason7665 3 года назад

@@stevenc5227 I've tried ultimate performance and high performance with no change sadly

@stevenc5227 3 года назад

@@Nmason7665 you could go into the bios and switch off all the energy saving features also look at LLC load line calibration and set to a higher value, this feature allows voltage drop to the cpu when not under load. also look at cpu voltage to make sure its correct. if you have a clear cmos button you can press that to return bios to factory settings in case you make a mistake or remove battery from motherboard for 30 secs then replace, bios will be back to stock settings.

@Nmason7665 3 года назад

@@Kevin-xn1lk Yeah I currently have a 2080 super installed and have tried it with a 1060 with the same results. I've been monitoring my CPU temps with Core Temp and I haven't seen anything over 70 C. All it does is go black and randomly restart no blue screen or freezing. No oc I'm not to familiar with that stuff and don't really have a need for it at the moment. I can't really give exactly when it started happening because like I said it was random and I wasn't doing anything out of my ordinary. The only thing I can think of doing differently on the day it started was downloading Prey form the new Xbox app which is no longer installed. And for a while after reinstalling windows it was good although late at night it randomly restarted again but then one of those windows things popped up asking for your phone number and if I wanted Microsoft office. That's about when it started again. Although to the best of my knowledge it didn't originally start with an update. All I was doing before it started the first time was taking a test on Lock-down Browser.

@Nmason7665 3 года назад

@@stevenc5227 Ok thank you! I will look at that some more. I have tried a couple of the LLC levels with no luck but I haven't combined some of these solutions. Working in the BIOS is new to me so I didn't want to go around and start putting in random values and changing setting without some baseline knowledge.

@djvidual8288 3 года назад

From the intro, I thought you broke it :D

@mckayver1306 3 года назад

love these videos

@Haddley333 3 года назад

That’s a neat little computer

@ModernGeekReview 3 года назад

That prebuild PC for yay!

@PrairieDog 3 года назад

Walmart sells that model HP Gaming Desktop for $589 US.

@PeteKay 3 года назад

I watch your videos when I'm feeling sad.

@Edman_79 3 года назад

With current prices, it might be a good idea to let it be repaired professionally. I'd say someone has that IC in stock. Plus the knowledge of what else is wrong with it.

@AmaterasuJunia 3 года назад

Seeing this computer having issues actually makes me feel good. Tried to buy the same model from Walmart last month and they kept cancelling my order claiming it was triggering their fraud system when they were really just out of stock and the website wasn't updating to say so. Left such a bad taste in my mouth I said 'F it' and just found a dude selling an ASM100 for $200 bucks and spent some of the savings on my nieces xD

@wilsondavenport6939 3 года назад

turns out he just was plugging into the motherboard HDMI

@LowBudgetKiwi 3 года назад

This dude got ripped

@itsdeonlol 3 года назад

That is a tiny HP!!

@puggamer2004 3 года назад

how heavy is the pc?

@LoneBlade5 3 года назад

HOW IN THE F DO YOU EVEN BREAK THAT?!?!?!

@dohnuts4405 3 года назад

Oof. Extremely bad time to have such a stupid mistake.

@300thousand2 3 года назад

Nice backflip)))

@GottaGeek 3 года назад

Unfortunately I bought one of those crappy Pavilion "Gaming" PCs but with crappier parts. Talk about buyers remourse.....

@randysmith7094 3 года назад

Remember when HP desktops were as heavy and solid as trucks? Now you can toss 'em around like beach balls. HP is so environmental, not wasting metal... Of course there is the HP Pavilion 550-A119, that is 80% empty space inside...

@kurohyuki5912 3 года назад

Hardware maybe "hard" but heatsinks are harder

@twizz420 2 года назад

They would use an "F" SKU in it because it came with a discrete GPU... Why would they give it a cpu with onboard graphics if there's going to be a gpu installed anyways? Common sense

@og_killa2482 3 года назад

God i love your Video's Tim Always a good laugh.

@thesmashtvnetwork 3 года назад

just boge wire and re locate the chip then epoxy it in another spot

@mnaemark 3 года назад

u could literally tape it on the pads and it would work lol. Just tin it before and then use a hot air gun it really is super easy

@zorzenon420 3 года назад

You can buy them power supplies

@rushdrift 3 года назад

Ok I know how the ic broke, the guy who want to open the gpu use a screwdriver to pry open the heatsink, most gpu heatsink will not be easy to take off because its stuck if you don't warm it up first, its a noob mistake that most people do, the same goes with cpu especially AMD cpu where you can see the cpu stuck to the heatsink if you don't warm it up.