This GPU is WIRELESS?! - Retro GTX 460 WHDI

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Why use HDMI and DisplayPort when you can go WIRELESS? This GPU technology existed over 10 years ago, but no one has used it since. Is it a hidden gem, or is there a reason it died on the vine?
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 Intro
1:05 Old-school unboxing
3:51 The wireless receiver
7:04 This is what a wireless GPU looks like
9:44 Let's install it!
12:00 The moment of truth
13:55 This is why we're using an old monitor
14:55 They lied.
16:47 Time to play some games
18:06 Wireless USB too?
18:40 Competitive disadvantage
20:09 Video playback is... A thing
20:58 Conclusion

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@Hi_buddy_waz_sup_ Год назад

10 years is a long time for shipping... I wonder why it took so long?

@maleprincess62 Год назад

COVID

@crby101 Год назад

north america is wide

@jeco0357 Год назад

Border Customs

@desupernoodle Год назад

@@crby101 true

@mafferyoue8908 Год назад

its cuz the shipper was a dad so he had to get the milk

@RWJP Год назад

Props to the guy who kept that card in such good condition!

@pandemicneetbux2110 Год назад

Yeah fr And then I'm all "well, is your GPU at least not busted tf loosened solder and all" on 6800XT mining cards idk man, I seen some like, tech pro tier stuff out there on the used market with all the materials even the sticker for CPU and such, and then you get those really weird guys who literally didn't clean the cheetoh grease off their laptop and GPU. Guys please be like this guy. Keep your materials safe for resale.

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@engelstody7171 Год назад

+1518

@engelstody7171 Год назад

310

@Dr_Heinz_Shloppenshmirtz 5 месяцев назад

“Sry guys my gpu disconnected”

@MajatekYT Год назад

*CORRECTION* 17:30 - That jitter isn't due to the GPU/WHDMI but due to Left 4 Dead 2 thanks to the Source Engine's physics actually moving you and your AI-controlled teammates in an elevator. If you pay attention to the HUD elements in the bottom left or your weapons/items in the middle right, there is no jitter. Cool bit of outmoded tech, though! Thanks LTT for covering this!

@davidwatkins9545 10 месяцев назад

Should pin this if they ever look at old videos comments

@s8080_ 9 месяцев назад

I was looking for this :D

@slayer8790 6 месяцев назад

@@davidwatkins9545their ego won't let em

@ultrae 3 месяца назад

gay

@speedingegg 2 месяца назад

@@ultrae you aint wrong

@mariomolnar3184 Год назад

Being an engineer who worked on this and seeing it turn on in an instant when everyone is doubtful must be one of the best feelings in the world

@memerified Год назад

@mreli_ Год назад

@@memerified inch

@terra3673 Год назад

@@mreli_ deep

@BobTheMoose Год назад

@@terra3673😈

@LuPy532 Год назад

@@terra3673 In

@fireyblackdragon Год назад

the "jitter" in the elevator scene is actually an artifact of the source engine. They always jitter during elevator scenes because of how they didn't attach players to moving platforms, so they're falling and hitting the ground ~30x/second (the tickrate for L4D2)

@talescarpinete9033 Год назад

Yup, been looking for people pointing that out in the comments. Not their obligation to know that, but still is an "unfair" call to the GPU (not that it could be considered good anyways, given the other problems it has lol).

@El_Mouse Год назад

Would explain why if you "take a break" in L4D2 while in an elevator will sometimes make you clip through, and fall to the ground underneath it.

@dirtypink3197 Год назад

@@El_Mouse that doesn't happen anymore, for well over a year already

@grn1 Год назад

@@dirtypink3197 Haven't played L4D2 in a long time but the last time I played the 360 version it was a buggy mess*. The last update completely ruined it. PC version still worked great the last time I played it. Never payed enough attention in the elevator to notice jittering (usually too busy healing up and prepping for the next section, especially when playing with randos or NPCs that like to disturb the witch). *A lot of Falling through floors, elevator just didn't open half the time or levels would otherwise be incomplete-able, Rochelle or Zoey would end up in a weird slanted state or constantly falling down and getting up again, voting didn't work and would either pass the vote no matter what or not pass the vote no matter what (whatever if felt like).

@dadestor Год назад

@@dirtypink3197 A year you say, in a 15 year old game?

@paxwav Год назад

This definitely had its use in audio industry, especially with audio mixing studios for movies! There were strict regulations of noise levels, so all of the audio equipment including PC's were in different rooms

@xx1simon1xx 5 месяцев назад

So.. why not run a cable from the other room?

@paxwav 5 месяцев назад

@@xx1simon1xx it is done by cables it is still the most reliable connection! This is just one step closer to perfect sound isolation and quite safe option, since if it stops working you replace it... the cables are usually in a network that goes through walls (which are acoustically treated) so if one breaks its expensive to replace them

@jamesalxl3636 2 месяца назад

you can just get a long ass cable 😆

@74LS_NE555 Год назад

Linus do more videos like this, your genuine enthusiasm really sells it

@dinglebop9998 Год назад

Coach jittering is caused by the engine working our collisions as the models all travel down the elevator. Happens every time

@talescarpinete9033 Год назад

Absolutely. Was looking for someone who had commented that, L4D2 I a great game but on hell of a glitchy/buggy mess, specially on elevators lol. (Still, the GPU ain't no good).

@cURLybOi Год назад

really? it also looks like bob deinterlacing method, where the interlaced fields just rapidly switch

@Mixamaximus Год назад

@@cURLybOi Around 14:53 you can hear Jake say that he can see interlacing on the screen capture but Linus said he couldn't see it on the actual display. There seems to be something off with the display they were using for testing. They have a weird setup using a special screen that has HDMI passthrough. A normal capture setup is video output -> capture card -> passthrough to monitor. The setup in this video is video output -> monitor that has HDMI out -> passthrough to capture card. I think the monitor is causing interlacing on its output to the capture card as well as the "jelly" effect that they saw around 15:18. The jelly effect isn't visible on the captured output which means it's likely an artifact of the LCD panel itself rather than the video signal. It would have been nice if they tested with another screen to verify but I also understand why they didn't devote any more time to troubleshooting strange video artifacts on an obsolete video card from 12 years ago.

@2slogan Год назад

Or maybe, the jitter is to simulate the fact that elevators aren't 100% smooth?

@Alex-tu5vu Год назад

@@2slogan yes yes of course 😂😂 that's what the devs tell you

@iliketurtles6274 Год назад

Only Linus would put a 12900K and GTX 460 together

@arnox4554 Год назад

And Windows 10 no less.

@anonymunsichtbar3715 Год назад

Should he buy a Phenom II just for benchmarking?

@J-Rizzler Год назад

@@lurch1539gt 210: *you underestimate my powers*

@JJFX- Год назад

@Lurch Well yeah.... XOC guys just need an output and often prefer compact cards that can run entirely from the PCIE slot.

@anzekranjc3312 Год назад

I disagree

@spyroXcynder1000 Год назад

A couple things: L4D2 is almost always like that, especially with elevators, due to how the engine works all of the collisions for the models. Also, with the video for Crab Rave, you can still see a lot of compression with a 3080 - both at 1080p and 4k. The only good way to show how it is, was CS:GO. With that said, 5GHz Wi-Fi being used a lot now compared to when it was released, that might also be affecting the latency, and could be causing at least some of the artifacting due to the now busy/noisy signal band.

@KixYT Год назад

I love seeing these unboxings of old tech. It could have been interesting to test the 100 ft. range and test it through walls.

@rlaphoenix Год назад

The reason for all of this jitter and weird 1080i vs. 1080p is NOT that the receiver is deinterlacing. The GPU is transmitting at 1080i and the Receiver is receiving at 1080i. The MONITOR is the one deinterlacing. It's using a Bob-deinterlacing strategy which means it takes every field and stretches the height to be full height and displays every now-resized field. So every odd field (every 2nd field, now full height frame) will feel displaced by 1px downward.

@anunoriginaljoke5870 Год назад

Is that not exactly what they said?

@PhilipKerry Год назад

@@anunoriginaljoke5870 He's posted this after watching the video to make himself look knowledgeable and clever .....

@Weeblicker Год назад

@@anunoriginaljoke5870 no because the receiver isn't what's deinterlacing

@XxHitmanAssassinxX Год назад

@@anunoriginaljoke5870 No, they said it was the receiver... The monitor interlacing never even came up in the video.

@pdbsstudios7137 Год назад

can i connect this gpu to a quest 2?

@5urg3x Год назад

You missed out on an opportunity to use that HDMI cable tester you guys have, that is if you still have it lol

@GoatRuss Год назад

OMG You are so right. That would have been interesting.

@Eratas1 Год назад

I tought that too.

@AlexvanderValk Год назад

I had a simpler version of this that just transmitted video over the 2.4 ghz wifi and it produced so much wireless noise that no other devices could connect to my router. You mention that this was 5ghz, so you could also check if it impacts other wireless performance in other devices.

@theminecraftace Год назад

Now I wonder how this card would perform for both DVD and Blu Ray playback. Imagine if it was used in a theater setup, and the latency shown persisted throughout entire movies.

@mohamedshuaau632 Год назад

Great. Nvidia will now release a RTX 4090 wireless for $4500

@Abdullah-it2dx Год назад

45000$

@Sdrdrax-p Год назад

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@nazmulfahad3044 Год назад

4085 ti*

@m4heshd Год назад

$4090

@Len_M. Год назад

@@m4heshd a Dollar per Mhz sounds like something they would try to pull off and justify.

@Mrcabe Год назад

The jitter in 17:35 is because of the elevators being "real" in L4D2 and the engine struggles to keep the models on the elevator floor when its moving.

@Miigga Год назад

yes

@GrowingUpSux Год назад

Correct, I suspect that will be edited out once they realise :)

@cs.studios Год назад

This is quite impressive. As someone who had multiple 480s, 470s at the time and keeping up with tech, I don’t ever remember hearing about this product. Kinda reminds me of my dell widi dock that couldn’t even penetrate the other room even though it was advertised as. Range test would have been interesting.

@JasonB808 Год назад

A while back my brother owned a HDMI wireless transmitter and receiver combo. The transmitter box device is where the HDMI devices plug into and it wirelessly transmits the signal to a receiver box which connects to TV via HDMI cable. According to my brother it worked pretty good when outputting his PlayStation 4 to the TV in his living room. Though he lived in a small apartment at the time.

@johnh9661 Год назад

At 15:08 Linus says “1080p-ness” I think even HE didn’t see the pun

@imam5623 Год назад

@linus

@guts2048 Год назад

Bro

@eio4528 Год назад

There you are. The second I heard him say that I went to the comment section. I knew I wasn't the only one! LOL

@farmlifefpv8735 Год назад

5GHz wifi has also become hugely more used since those days, I wonder if that could affect it and be causing the artifacting?

@kiloneie Год назад

Read more above comments, it's the monitor and them not actually understanding what they are talking about, neither of them are experts.

@goranjosic Год назад

@@kiloneie definitely done "by amateurs". I understand that they want to have fun while making a video, but most of us are interested in the technical details and quality testing of such a card - because this is the only opportunity to see something like this...

@TJXD Год назад

@@goranjosic my thoughts exactly

@tarkitarker0815 Год назад

@@goranjosic dude they literally discontinued any work on wireless video output after that, its not worth it for consumers, its too much work and too pricey. its not that they are experts, but the stream quality for sure sucked ass.

@SlowKlone Год назад

@@goranjosic nobody watches LTT for technical details lmao

@MartiniPinball Год назад

Thinking about it, for the time this made a lot of sense to me, given that airplay wasn't a thing and running cables to your big screen from a desktop setup is probably something most didn't wanna do.

@bizkillall Год назад

I had a LG 55" Wireless LCD TV that used 60Ghz instead of 5ghz. It was able to produce a true no compressed 1080p image. It had a separate box you plugged everything into, and then the box beamed the image wirelessly to the TV. The TV panel itself only had a single HDMI input as a backup. It worked great in my 1 bedroom apartment. I had the input box in my bedroom, where my PC and PS3 were hooked up, and then the 55" panel in my living room. I gamed for a couple years like that. In the bedroom, I had an HDMI switch where I could switch between my bedroom TV and the living room TV. It was awesome how in 2009 I was able to pause a game on my ps3 in my bedroom, and then continue exactly where I left off in the living room. I wish there were more modern solutions to allow having a single spot for all your devices, but then beaming them to any TV in the house. Fortunately now I am able to afford a PS5 and gaming PC for any room I want to play in, but it would be cool to just have a single PS5 and PC I could hook up once but be able to play them anywhere in the house.

@rawdmon Год назад

It's funny that at the time someone would probably say "this card is huge" but compared to the stuff today it looks tiny.

@Kclanks Год назад

I have a pretty small graphics card and it's about the same length as this 💀

@cacti16s Год назад

But it was really good for 60fps gaming at medium settings back in 2011

@m4nc1n1 Год назад

My 4080 is almost as big as my keyboard lol

@austang8556 Год назад

Not really the 260 was a real monster though

@OP4455OP Год назад

I have GPU with similar cooler, 影馳海外版 Galaxy GTX 550 Ti HQV (but my GPU only have 1 DVI and 1 DP), this tall boi even longer than GIGABYTE R9 270 WindForce 2X OC

@rflair Год назад

You guys should have gone to the Nvidia control panel to set 1080p, I think its defaulting to 1080i as safe resolution because 1080i monitors were a thing back then.

@DJZKOfficial Год назад

I agree to this, i used a 32inch samsung TV, and it defaulted to 1080i when i set it to 1080, but you can force it to 1080p and that's what i did and what i am using right now

@johnnylego807 Год назад

Agree, there was many problems in this video, many things weren’t properly looked into, or even gone deeper into. They quickly threw it to the side as being crap without checking to see if the error was on there end, which it was. Wish this got a more thorough look.

@johnagbey2923 6 месяцев назад

It's 1080i because they're at 60 fps. If they ran 30 fps they could probably run 1080p

@capellan2000 Год назад

Really interesting review! After reading many great ideas in the comments of this video, I hope to see a Round 2 of this product's review. Thanks a lot guys! 😃👍

@tech8438 Год назад

Love these dives into old obscure tech that not many people got to play with, I vote you look at the Ageia Physx cards that were around for a little while with ASUS / BFG and Ghost Recon (few other games too) before Nvidia purchased the company and tech.

@DiversityGames Год назад

18:35 "I Have no idea where we would find drivers for something like that at this point" Maybe in the CD that came with the box that has the drivers for it?

@neonblaze99 Год назад

this old style LTT video is actually way better than the newer ones... it feels raw and a lot more personal... not too many things going on on the screen

@AEFI261 Год назад

agreeded

@gold4963 Год назад

Huh, I'm not the only one who thinks this.

@ykguy6379 Год назад

@@rikogarza1729 eh I kinda like em

@OmarShtaiwi_ Год назад

@@rikogarza1729 They are a youtube channel, they need sponsors, if that's what you are talking about.

@quackatit Год назад

@@rikogarza1729 you want videos or not? Merch is not enough.

@sylak2112 Год назад

Wow I remember seeing a review of that when I was looking up to buy a 460 back in those days. Wild! that is cool that he kept it

@tobiasjames6949 8 месяцев назад

Antenna on the GPU and the receiver are not phased correctly, GPU is intended to be in a case, so all 5x Antenna would be vertical not horizontal on a test bnch - aka vertical = omni and in phase with the Antenna in the receiver.

@ianvisser7899 Год назад

1:40 Ironically, it's basically what in-home streaming became. Kinda cool tech, just sad it didnt have a LAN port instead of just a wireless dongle

$@fractured.$

@fractured. Год назад

This probably transmits more data than a single gigabit LAN port.

@TheWunder Год назад

the bots are glitching

@JailerGamer Год назад

1:40 Ironically, it's basically what in-home streaming became. Kinda cool tech, just sad it didnt have a LAN port instead of just a wireless dongle

@thewiirocks Год назад

@@TheWunder Ironically

@TheCriticalTaco Год назад

@@thewiirocks, it's

@MrIhatethisone Год назад

I'm surprised they didn't try moving the monitor at different distance to see how far it could go

@AlanRencher Год назад

Fun fact: WHDI was made by Amimon, which was acquired by Vitec (now Vivendum) and folded into their subsidiary, Teradek, which still produces new wireless devices today, albeit only for professional camera departments.

@aaronmcneal1698 Год назад

This needs to be a thing now that wireless tech has come so far. An adapter for the monitor and a wireless GPU would be amazing

@LeiNyan Год назад

17:45 isnt this just the elevator vibrating ingame?

@GrowingUpSux Год назад

correct, it is been like that since the game launched and any L4D2 enthusiast will know exactly thats what happens in the elevator scene

@pirriu Год назад

correct, i've played thousands of hours of l4d and can confirm this is a source engine problem, nothing related to the GPU

@LeiNyan Год назад

@@pirriu exactly Lmg editors and writers clearly don't play l4d

@hubertpuawski1809 Год назад

This video seems very rushed. Linus didn’t test the range of a WIRELESS GPU, I was sure he would do it. He pointed out the flaw of the engine as a flaw of the product. He wasn’t bothered to check the wireless usb and didn’t dig into settings of the card at all. It sucks becasue it was such an interesting product. Take your time and make good full videos. We will wait

@MrNiceguy3210 Год назад

I even would have liked to have seen them test it on multiple (or at least one other) monitor to verify that there was no image degradation on the (presumably old) monitor they were using in this video. I agree, they could have run more tests on this thing, even if it still made for an interesting video.

@Jonathanmestrejedi Год назад

I would like to see Lazy Vide Game Reviewer reviewing this.

@dnevill Год назад

It's 11 years old. Does it really need to be thoroughly tested? Lol

@MidnightMarrow Год назад

@@dnevill I think the point is, if you're going to test it and bother making a video, at least test it and do so properly instead of shit talking it immediately and ending on that.

@woIfson Год назад

@@MidnightMarrow he still thanks you for the view.

@PoisonNuke Год назад

The artifacts in the Crab Rave video are actually part of the video here on YT and therefore not a problem of the compression. And compression of the stream is impossible while maintaining the low latency, because compression of a FHD steam would introduce 20-30 milliseconds of latency.

@Garkimyer Год назад

This is actually a very good idea for the time imo, disregarding performance. The idea of not needing to feed super long display cables for environments like large meeting rooms and/or eliminating the need for any external cable management is a great concept. Would also be good for standing desks since setting up display cables to be able to use the height adjustment is a pain in the butt, unless you’re fine with dangling and sagging cords. Obviously today the add on device is better, but i bet this inspired it. It seems almost like a proof of concept device to me.

@Kipu2021 Год назад

Please keep doing more of these minimalist videos. It's not to say that your modern sets are bad or anything, but this is a very pleasant change of pace. :)

@xthexder0 Год назад

I think the jitter you point out at 17:40 is actually just the game. Coach is moving up and down, and you are in an elevator. The game just isn't quite updating the characters vertical position and the player camera at the same time.

@S0K0N0MI Год назад

This is the kind of content I used to love LTT for. Please go back to your roots more often!

@nerdypotato7356 Год назад

If this had only come out half a decade later, this would have been an awesome addition to VR headsets

@elksalmon84 Год назад

Guru3D has a review on this (Wireless Graphics card - KFA2 GTX 460 WDHI review, page 4). It says - it's detected as 1080i by default, but can be changed to 1080p in NVidia Control Panel. KFA2 is a European brand of Galaxy.

@Oklon86 Год назад

another review needed?

@heyspookyboogie644 Год назад

Idk why this isn’t way more common nowadays. Would be nice if my computer could stream to other devices as easily as a modern phone can.

@dylanfurr8926 Год назад

i have no problem bluetoothing my pc to my tv

@Sithhy Год назад

Because it introduces constant latency, which can get worse depending on what you're doing; it could be fine for watching movies or just browing the web but you can forget about gaming

@flameraker6824 Год назад

Windows supports something similar Wireless displays exist

@SpartanDusk Год назад

The answer is its more common than you think. Its built into windows, you just need to find a display that supports casting. Which is basically all smart TVs.

@JackieBright Год назад

Windows supports Miracast if your wifi card supports it

@clonetrooper576 Год назад

Btw Linus I love your G710 keyboard you use on the daily. I have one too and I never wanna get rid of it because its such a good keyboard

@Flickstro Год назад

I have a Galaxy 9800 gtx (?) that I bought way back when for my Vista machine that I believe is still installed there. I wasn't quite sure it was the same company until I saw that beautiful, blue PCB. Man, that takes me back.

@vadergb Год назад

I loved how this just worked out the box. These old tech unboxings are great. Always nice to see Linus genuinely enthusiastic about earlier tech.

@Just_a_commenter Год назад

Seeing a video formatted like this feels so nostalgic. Great job calling back to the feel of LTT of 10+ years ago. Hell, watching this in 360p almost makes me feel NCIX still exists... lol

@BudoBasovic Год назад

Seems like those were the days for weird experiments. I actually had a Hydra motherboard at that time, one of those that offered cross platform multi GPU support. Worked about as well as this.

@Frendh Год назад

LTT guys being excited kind of gets me excited. Contagious, man.

@hi_tech_reptiles Год назад

There's gotta be a way to send a progressive signal, cuz that is all deinterlacing artifacts. I use a special deinterlaced for old consoles for similar reasons. Either in the GPU drivers or Windows, switching the resolution specifically has gotta help maybe to 900p or something. Or even the wireless card itself maybe has something. The interlacing is definitely half the issue, especially on an LCD panel.

@tschuuuls486 Год назад

I'd guess it's detecting the Monitor to only support 1080i and therefore sending an interlaced signal.

@cptkakise6958 Год назад

I agree, when I backup some old dvd I have the same awful issues, until I properly deinterlace them

@Eli-zb2yj Год назад

Imagine this gpu would exist today you literally could put your pc anywhere

@Gamerzsociaty Год назад

I know right! Like given how common stuff like Chromecast and streaming is, I'm surprised this isn't more common plus imagine an RTX 3090 with this

@manoz6194 Год назад

Even on the moon?

@Pac-man_talking_a_shit Год назад

You can probably have the smallest pc ever or even laptops, Maybe steam deck🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨 Nah im playing with myself

@Zosu22 Год назад

@@Gamerzsociaty Just use network streaming like moonlight for anywhere in your house. That's going to be much better than something like this. They've laid out pretty clearly why nobody makes stuff like this anymore (too expensive/tied to the GPU).

@Gamerzsociaty Год назад

@@rikogarza1729 true but like considering how expensive GPUs are now a days, it should just come included.

@CircuitBoardcokr Год назад

even if it has low quality realtime video transmission, still it was very awesome in that days. even first release of Teradek Bolt, roughly $10K at launching, was 2012.

@AdamBeaudryMasterProton Год назад

I remember getting my first GPU for a desktop I had. My Grandpa took me to Staples and we paid for it then got home. And at first I was a bit disappointed with it only having 1gb of vram, but it turned out great for the first few years of me using it. Like given the era, people today would be surprised how awesome it was just to have 1024mb of vram, compared to something like 760mb that I often had on laptops of that period, even years later.

@soloman981 Год назад

17:40 that jitter my friend is glorious source engine moving elevator with characters inside :D

@ThePlatinumFox Год назад

I just LOVE when LTT takes a ride in their timemachine and goes back to revisit old tech. I feel that young and upcoming pro tech stars can gain from understandning a bit more of the evolution of tech. I'm old enough to have tinkered with most of it myself and I often meet younger generations distanced from "basic" tech. From a technical problemsolving perspective, peeling off that extra layer, helps alot with the insight and understanding of what is actually going on. Well done

@AronBezzina Год назад

it would have been very interesting to see if the performance changes if all your 5ghz gear was off to free up the spectrum.

@pablopoo Год назад

10 years ago LG had a similar setup for some TV with a connection base that had a lot of inputs, and a wireless dongle, 1080p, wireless.

@dumpsterdawg Год назад

Linus: "What makes it a wireless GPU?" No wires

@AgentSmith911 Год назад

HDCP gives me bad memories of back when I bought a new HD TV about a decade ago and I tried to connect the TV to my laptop and use the TV as the only monitor while the lid of my laptop was down and the laptop-screen turned off while the laptop kept running. Suddenly the TV screen turns green and fluorescent. I tried to change the HDMI cable but I kept getting the same problems. Turns out HDCP doesn't work that well for consumers that tries to follow the law yet it's easy for criminals to circumvent. Just like every other copy protection in other words.

@SecretKnowledge_IKnowTooMuch Год назад

can u explain?

@resetreboot Год назад

Story of all DRM. A hassle for honest consumers, not a problem for pirates.

@Nova_Astral Год назад

17:35 That's actually because the elevator is actually moving, the jittery of coach is the game trying to keep him (and you) on the floor of the elevator, but it only updates once every 66 ticks (or 128, I don't know what the default is for l4d2) so if you have more than 66 fps you'll notice it

@user-bs6fd1ko7d Год назад

Happy new Year Linus !!

@TheNerogarden Год назад

These kind of videos, when they are all like "omg did you see that? so baaad" I'm like "... what? Where? ... Looks fine to me" 🤣 Would be nice if they could point it out in the edditing what the heck they were talking about, but I think that even the editors don't know

@stefanegger Год назад

or maybe make a comparision with the cable, it could also be an effect. Also not sure why did they not go to settings and set the resolution.

@CheapSushi Год назад

Right? It didn't look that bad at all, especially for 10 years old

@cody8860 Год назад

That's cause RU-vid destroys the picture as well. If you saw the picture in person you'd understand. Even 4k RU-vid looks atrocious compared to 1080p offline.

@birbo5603 Год назад

If they made this 10+ years ago, I’d love to say a take on it with more modern (and likely better) tech.

@chaon93 Год назад

With VR being reasonably popular im surprised it hasnt already. Wireless setups already exist and work "decently", dedicated hardware should be a net improvement.

@CASyHD. Год назад

as they epxlained better tech exists already. Especially 60GH wireless but also Miracast over 2,4ghz works well enough

@verakoo6187 Год назад

The tech already exists in the modern world, is just not built into the GPU, cuz thats kinda dumb. There are alot of wireless HDMI solutions that can just plug into any GPU.

@abdulbasitrubeiyya906 7 месяцев назад

the excitement got me excited 😅

@tho_tho Год назад

You could have done a test on a test bench of that era, with matching OS, rather than a newer system, simply because some issues might straight up be caused by the newer hardware/firmware (eg: the "new" drivers) used in tandem with the GPU, wouldn't be a first by any means, so that's a missed opportunity. Trying with new cables (especially the HDMI one) would help verify whether the card really is having issues or not. I would assume the signal sent through the antennae has it's completely separate dedicated circuit, as it would be fairly stupid to allocate part of the performance just for the signal, so load on GPU shouldn't be affecting signal, unless power issues come into play at full load.

@AntVenom Год назад

I have so much respect for the fact that you guys still have that fps_doug Pure Pwnage poster after all these years. (14:06)

@atticusnari Год назад

TIL AntVenom watches LTT. Nice.

@PrograError Год назад

@@atticusnari I think all YTer watches LTT... except themselves...

@potatopotatopotatopotatopo8746 Год назад

Antvenom has been watching and commenting on LTT videos for many years at this point. It's nice to still see him comment occasionally

@literallythefloor3343 Год назад

Hi Ant

@iliketeslas4608 Год назад

i use linux

@Neoxon619 Год назад

I figured this would either lag a lot or be compressed to hell. Looks like it was the latter with occasional lag spikes.

@1234567895182 Год назад

@@gptcdc3 gotta get them internet points amiright?

@Neoxon619 Год назад

@@gptcdc3 The beauty of chapters & 2x speed.

@eric8146 Год назад

No way you watched the video

@calebash82 Год назад

I genuinely enjoyed Linus nerding out like this❤

@fredorobot5694 Год назад

Watching your videos, it's the second time that I have the impression that you guys dont fully comprehend the difference between interlaced and progressive. It is not a difference of resolution. At that time, you would buy this to broadcast on a tv screen ( most of the time interlaced) and this GPU probably came setup interlaced out of the box. I'm quite conviced that you can set it up in progressive video output in the settings. And if so, as you are using it on a progressive monitor, would make everything fine. Dig in. :)

@jjones2582 Год назад

I kept wondering the same thing. Surely there would be a setting in there somewhere to setup interlaced or progressive if the box was advertising it.

@UncleUncleRj Год назад

Considering they've discussed on multiple videos the difference between interlaced and progressive, including how it works on different technologies, I'm pretty sure they comprehend it better than the average comment section know-it-all.

@gamin546 Год назад

@@jjones2582 Verified with only 33 subs, interesting

@jjones2582 Год назад

@@gamin546 - Verified before they created a limit. The weird part: why do I have 33 subs with no content. 🙂

@ViolentMLG Год назад

@@jjones2582 The same reason I have 100+ with no content.

@demacherius1 Год назад

I would habe loved to see how far away it actually works.

@92kosta Год назад

Yeah, I was waiting for that test.

@Eren-da-Jaeger Год назад

and with win 7 and right drivers from the disk for both gpu and usb

@zackieboi 8 месяцев назад

i just got brand new RGB fans and i had no way to control them. damn im glad i watched this video

@ThAlEdison Год назад

I wonder if they spotted it on a back shelf in Milwaukee PC, and decided to grab it to send to you. Milwaukee PC is a local chain who's been selling computer parts for a few decades, and has some very vintage stuff lying around.

@MaxRovensky Год назад

Slap a DJI Transmission onto an RTX4090 for a DIY setup

@redditgalaxy1457 Год назад

Slap a DJI Transmission onto an RTX4090 for a DIY setu

@jakobe_bryantgaming5580 Год назад

Slap a DJI Transmission onto an RTX4090 for a DIY setup

@zetsubou3704 Год назад

Slap a DJI Transmission onto an RTX4090 for a DIY setup

@nivag Год назад

@Zetsubou Slap a DJI Transmission onto an RTX4090 for a DIY setup

@jimmified Год назад

@@zetsubou3704 nice pfp

@Harry101UK Год назад

The Left 4 Dead vibrating character was just the game's physics freaking out because you were riding an elevator. The character physics jump up and down because characters on moving platforms are a mathematical nightmare.

@Jesus_Christ_is_Lord_ 11 месяцев назад

Honestly even if its a little bit less efficient it would be cool to see wireless gpus more often

@honeymoonerfan91 Год назад

Linus' enthusiasm and excitement is so infectious. Love it

@DefinitelyNotSade Год назад

The set very much looks ye ol' blue NCIX Tech Tips set. Good memories, and glad Riley made the jump.

@laurencefernandez1092 Год назад

Heh heh 1080Penis 15:02

@ThatOneUnityGamedev 14 дней назад

7:31 that's actually just source physics moving on a different tick speed than the elevator moves, you see it in a lot of games

@speedox125 Год назад

I love the novelty of it just... Working. Immediately. Especially in a time when that wasn't super common.

@Rebecca_English Год назад

I wanted that card so bad for my photography business. The idea of being able to cast my computer to another screen without tons of rewiring was just so cool. Unfortunately, the price was prohibitive at the time when compared to a regular card. Still, it was cool to see this one!

@williandossantos5200 7 месяцев назад

Just buy a penpc, minipc or such and used remote desktop or similar

@Rebecca_English 7 месяцев назад

@williandossantos5200 at the time, a mini pc wasn't an option. They didn't exist. A laptop was an awkward solution due to our lack of surface space. We had room for one table, and it was dedicated to our portfolio and sample albums. The solution ended up being a long hdmi cord and a wireless keyboard and mouse. This gpu would have eliminated the ugly long cord. It was super cool at the time! But it way too expensive and unreliable to justify the purchase.

@Rebecca_English 7 месяцев назад

@@williandossantos5200 besides, where's the fun in that!

@Midcon77 Год назад

This thing deserves major cred for just working like that. The folks that create the HP Wireless printing crap software could learn some lessons here. If it could be done that seamlessly 10+ years ago, you can make it work that seamlessly now. Great vid LTT!

@belther7 Год назад

This just made me remember a printer that if it was moved, I had to reinstall the driver for it to work! the crazyness of HP printers

@Midcon77 Год назад

@@belther7 yeah HP printer software just sucks - at least the wireless side of it. It should just work like this thing did! Lol

@virgulilla9469 Год назад

2:12 Filling the box with the same thing all over is a classic 2000's box

@RIOTStyx 4 месяца назад

7:07 Linus said it was glorious right as I was opening the software for my Glorious mouse

@KenSikora Год назад

1080p-ness. Nice.

@communalnoodle1356 Год назад

Haha I came to see if anyone else noticed.

@LogansMediaHub Год назад

This style of LTT reminds me a lot of the style I'm trying to go for. I like it! There should definitely be more videos like this one.

@GruppeSechs Год назад

17:35 That's actually just Left 4 Dead. The characters always bounce that tiny, tiny bit while you're on the elevator.

@telepresencebot2 Год назад

in regards to the "dead upgrade path", how much performance hit would you take by using this as your display out and adding a second, higher tier/newer card for rendering?

@christianbause8460 Год назад

I am surprised that the setup works so well. As close as the antennas are arranged, a neutralization of the radio waves is possible.

@elksalmon84 Год назад

Galaxy does exist and doing well. Slightly renamed and have several brands now, including KFA2 that are popular in Europe. I had Galaxy 6800 back in 2005, KFA2 2060 Super EX in 2019 and Galax 3070 Ti Black General now. Cheaper and better than MSI.

@elksalmon84 Год назад

@@dogtrollololl galaxy is not palit. they sold part of business, but not that gpu business.

@theRPGmaster Год назад

If you ever want to sell the 3070 Ti Black General, I'd be interested. I'm in Europe.

@tadejloncar Год назад

I have a KFA2 3060. I agree it is a great brand!

@rachmatzulfiqar Год назад

Galaxy is a cheap brand, but not cheapo quality like zotac

@TheNuclearAtomizer 6 месяцев назад

The fact it worked. Mind blowing. But also. It's over a decade old. If someone has one of these and reconfigures it or rebuilds an entire GPU with more recent technology. This could get even better.

@Nostalgia_Realm Год назад

I wonder if the Windows display setting defaulted to 60i instead of 60p? Because that sure sounds like it is the case. The monitor is doing the de-interlacing in this case, which might cause visual artifacts. But the video playback test leads me to believe there is more to this. From amimon's website, creator of WHDI: WHDI™ takes the uncompressed HD video stream and breaks it into elements of importance. The various elements are then mapped onto the wireless channel in a way that give elements with more visual importance a greater share of the channel resources, i.e. they are transmitted in a more robust manner. Elements that have less visual importance are allocated fewer channel resources, and therefore are transmitted in a much less robust way. Allocation of channel resources can include, for example, setting power levels, spectrum allocation and coding parameters. So it seems as though that the data might be uncompressed, but data is definitely being altered in ways. The nowadays heavy use of the 5 GHz band might also make this tech less useful today.

@Heimbasteln Год назад

Yeah I have had that happen before

@ironhead2008 Год назад

Reminds me of some of the glorious insanity Asrock got into (and still gets into to some extent, see some of their Threadripper and Epyc offerings) in the motherboard space.

@rolux4853 Год назад

Would you mind telling me more about those boards? I really love weird Hardware and especially Threadrippers, but don’t have the knowledge to know about every gimmick, so you telling me about some quirky stuff so I can google it, that would be amazing! :)

@dumpicus_maximus Год назад

@@rolux4853 Well, iirc they made a mini itx threadripper board... the socket took up so much space it used SODIMM memory, instead of regular DIMMs

@p3chv0gel22 Год назад

@@rolux4853 if i remember correctly, ASRock sells for example an Mini ITX epyc board (where the CPU socket is like a quarter if the entire Board...0) or a m.2 slot VGA Graphics Card In genersl they do pretty much whatever niche they find

@ironhead2008 Год назад

@@rolux4853 Well they made a full featured (multiple NVME slots, a full 4 PCIE x16 slots, quad channel memory) mATX X399 board (I think it was a TaiChi), and I think they came out with some even smaller (lie miniDTX) Epyc boards more recently under their "Asrock Rack" professional line (Linus has a video on one of them). Bitwit did a build with the x399 board but AFAIK never did a followup with the benchmarks like he promised.

@CheapSushi Год назад

I love how insane ASRock was early on. Like I have their X79 Extreme11 and it has literally everything on it for the time period.