Coming from a classical guitar background it does not seem natural or sound good at all, I'm so jealous though, I wish I could play like that and not hate every accidental you hear lol
@@fiftysecwithoutza you're probably 20 at best with a room temp IQ. Try living near a city or idk look at crime statistics and you'll figure out why literally every one was racist before 2010
Also one thing is being sloppy as a drummer and being sloppy as a guitarist. Guitar is more lenient on being sloppy in certain genres. Not so much about drums though
@@doves9204 I fully agree with you about that. They're both great songwriters, but I'd say that Kurt was better at writing more concise and catchy pop songs with punk/metal instrumentation. But, I mean, Billy Corgan also has a great sense for catchy melodies. Bullet with butterfly wings and 1979 come to mind as songs that are extremely well written and catchy. They both were serious hit writers. Both of them are/were total badasses.
@@doves9204 yea I fully agree with you. Although I truly love Billy Corgan, I'm more into the pumpkin's "classics" and "hits" more than their less popular album tracks. But with Nirvana, I'll even listen to shitty demos and stuff because they were just like lightning in a bottle. And I agree with you about Kurt's raw intensity and talent. There will never be anyone like him. The dude was such a badass live. And yes that unplugged performance still gives me chills sometimes. And he went all out during their regular concerts. I mean, there are so many photos of him diving onto the drum set. He really got into it. I love that. I just wish he didn't smash so many guitars. I'm always like "dude...I woulda given that guitar a loving home..." lol
Kurt can actually be a really technical player. But his riffs are usually really basic, because he doesn't give af about making something technical, he always just wanted to make stuff that sounded good.
@@lampshade6579lol I don't even think Kurt knew the pentatonic scale. I never understood people insisting on how Kurt could totally shred if he wanted to. He can't.
@@jimmymeinhart4265it's pretty proven that he could to an extent if he wanted to, he just never had an interest in it, and that messy solo in this video was him actively making fun of EVH lol. But kurt was much smarter than he appeared, he played guitar since he was like 15 til the end of his life, he put in his 10,000 hours.
Kurt wasn’t known as a great guitar player like Jimmy Page,Hendrix, Stevie Ray Vaughan,Clapton,Eddie Van Halen but he understood how to put together a great song. That’s why he loved the Beatles so much. Kurt stuck to the basics and wrote simple but great songs. I graduated high school in 1995 and I think the 90’s were the best era for music from every genre
i sorta developed a style like this when my chord switching was rly slow and i tried to force myself to switch faster by playing at the normal time even if my fingers werent there, it sounded sloppy most of the time but sometimes some rly interesting hammer ons were made
As a person into rock too, who in the fking world cares if he only likes one band it does not affect you anyway. But as a person scrolling yt shorts, yeah, he needs some variety it is getting pretty stale even if it is mostly about Nirvana
I mean, I'm a lot older than him, so I know like 20 bands well enough to make content about them. I'm not gonna make content about Thin Lizzy (even though they're great) because I don't know enough about them to do it right.
i’ve been personally practicing this without realizing it since i’ve started. when i’m recording riffs i notice that sounds especially after a couple times of playing it straight i’ll start letting some higher strings ring out or add a little hiccup/ fill to my strumming pattern without realizing it
I wouldn't say cky had sloppy accuracy. Their riffs are really technical and need precision, still don't know how Darren Miller sings and plays at the same time.
@spacemaninvader5199 Imagine selling 75 million records and having someone say "He was so much better than what he showed." My dude, he did show it, that's how he sold 75 million records.
since I started playing guitar in 94 I pretty much only learned grunge for years. I played a lot like that for years . I still love the way it sounds but I had to also learn to play with more precision and dynamic.
The thing is though about Kurt Cobain is that people say it's sloppy, because what he's actually doing is so different than what everyone else was doing that it goes over people's heads. Sometimes he did play sloppy like that solo, which he probably did for a certain effect. But, it took me 13 years of playing to just scratch the surface of what he was actually doing. Then I started to realize he was doing all these super unique guitar techniques that didn't even have names back then, I'd bet and some still don't probably. He would just seem to go with the flow and unlock these things to make his songs sound better, but you can tell he's completely calculated by how well his songs are put together on the albums. Not to idolize anyone, but he truly was a genius and I think if push came to shove he was the best musician to ever make it big, talent wise. Even queen only had like 20 actual good songs... Same for Lynyrd Skynyrd and everyone but the pixies. Kurt died when he was only 27 and he had 101 songs that people love. And I'm pretty sure he did made up the bass lines as well and just had krist play it. Drums too before grohl, quite a bit possibly.
i saw an interview of billy after kurt died, he saidsomething like, “yea he was a great guitarist i knew i was good but now that he’s gone i’m definitely the best” corgan really is a self involved ass. great guitarist tho lol
I learn guitar on my own… I don’t play clean at all… sometimes there’s a sound to it that I quite enjoy… and sometimes my strings won’t be in tune and I come up with these riffs that get lost because I tune my guitar again… and it never sounds the same
Thank you for pointing this out! So many people say Kurt was just a "bad" player. I really think he knew how to play the guitar well; he just also knew how to bastardize it, and make things sound new. Reminiscent of old blues players and proto-punk. "Sloppy Accuracy" is a good phrase for it tho!
Sloppy shit sounds so much better it adds so much more personality and flare to the music its like its always just ever so slightly different each time they play
I never realized it until recently but when I watch live videos of nirvana, I always see that Kurt started the main riff with an upstroke. Anyone else notice this?
sloppy playing was reason grunge was loved and in the words of my favorite guitarist you dont have to be technical to be a Great guitarist James (Munky) Shaffer KoRn 😎
@@dontpissoffraccoons exactly. Did they use octabe pedals? Yes, anyone who had a working ear can hear that, but to lump them together with Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins is assanine
@@dontpissoffraccoons he did think polyphia originally wrote the riff. They're good technically, but they couldnt write a hook/riff to save their lives. All they do is jerk off on the guitar.
Cobain was, but i disagree on billy. He really used those octaves well, had a great ear for distortion, and had some great solos, like siva. In fact siva overall is just a really solid track....
He sometimes/often would fret the note below the octave, turning the power chord into a Sus4 or Major barre chord. Major feature of Kurt's playing actually.
Part of the “it” factor of Smells Like Teen Spirit is the fact that it sounds like some dudes performing in their garage, and the sloppy accuracy definitely adds to that
I've thankfully mastered the sloppy technique after a few years of playing by ear lmao. Anytime someone hears me playing they always ask for slts and I do it...
