This Insider Spotify Data Is MIND-BLOWING 

They put out the BEST songs…. Of all time.

Last Official unreleased Beatles song came out in 1995

@@solace6613 Real Love 1996.

Yeah I've noticed john has been fairly quiet of late. aaaaand im going to hell now. welp.

So true, I thought they were released same year (Real Love and Free as a bird) but they came in different anthology

its called pop music!

@@markdoolan3424 wrong, it's called bad modern pop. There used to be plenty of brilliant pop stuff out there. Real instruments, gorgeous melodies, big productions, orchestra arrangements, you name it. Nothing compared to the modern charts wasteland.

always the same few chords and very repetative melodies..often playing the same note over and over again

@@markdoolan3424 It is and should be called Garbage.

i agree completely. as a musician who plays mostly rock and roll, the stagnation of music in the market has become glaringly noticeable since 2000-2010. there’s just an overall lack of imagination and creativity as most people seem to copycat what’s already out there. i talk about this often with my bandmates and friends. you don’t hear amazing songs like Bohemian Rhapsody. we don’t know why this is happening or what to do about it.

Idk about Queen, but I believe Elton John was up at the top before the biopic. He's always been near the top on spotify.

because they are gay

@@stuart6478 you took the words straight out of my mouth

Elton is in top 40 due to his 'collaborations' with Dua Lipa and britney spears

Elton John is only here because of the Cold Heart remix. And Queen isn't charting as well on Spotify now as they were in 2017, before the biopic was even announced. Bad examples.

Interesting point... a breakdown by * personal vs. pre-built playlist; * # of songs added to a personal playlist * of songs 'favorited'

Exactly ... most people seem to not care what is 'on' as long as there is some noise in the background of their life...

Good point, Background music really sways the stats. Sure it's a listen, but it's not an active listen. Surprised we don't see more lo-fi beats and sleep sounds on the charts lol.

@@Axel_Andersen This is key, to many people (most even?) music is just some pleasant background noise.

Or starting with a song you like, but then letting it auto-play the next songs. It tends to bias towards more popular songs in that genre and even move towards more pop genre… the algorithm assumes we like what most people like as it’s playing a numbers game trying to come up with recommendation. But it sort of become self reinforcing

They are also LGBTQ culture icons which resonates with Gen Z

@@luisdetomaso867 True. The most confused and socially engineered generation ever.

@@luisdetomaso867 which I think contributed to them getting movies. It’s all connected

@@williamroberts3719 I didn't see the Elton John biopic but it definitely struck me that the Queen biopic really was focusing on Freddie's personal life and the music felt almost incidental until the very end of the film. I really noticed it in comparison to the Elvis movie that just came out, which has music embedded into every moment start to finish.

Hendrix was supposed to have his biopic years ago.... but the alleged daughter said 'no' to use of Jimi's music. I mean, that's machinegunning yourself in the foot even if all she wants is money.

This is a good point

I (a rock listener) can’t speak generally about this, but my most listened song each year has always been played a way lower amount of times than most of my pop-listening friends. My most played song will be like 20 times and theirs will be like 70 lol. Dunno if thats a genre thing or just depends on the individual but I think you might be right

100% this....rock and metal fans love variety and tend to not listen to the same thing over and over.

I'm mostly a black metal & doom metal guy, but I listen to a lit of drill, outlaw country, goth, neofolk, trip hop, Industrial, blues... so I completely agree.

@@VillageIdiotFs Spotify also hasn’t uploaded recordings done in a basement on an answering machine yet.

This is true. Ed Sheeran is getting destroyed by Taylor Swift in streams. SpotifyCharts has an Artists charts (daily and weekly, and by region) that ranks artists by streams, although it doesn't specify how many.

Great point and you've touched on a bigger issue. That business drives the music industry. If you go back to the 1990s where CD was king albums drove the industry because albums on CD were extremely profitable. That was fine because rock bands for a long time had primarily been album focused rather than singles. Nirvana only had 1 top 10 single and Pearl Jam had 2 but both Nevermind and Ten sold over 10 million copies in North America. But in the internet age albums are a niche thing. Unfortunately its all about money and rock music and albums are no longer profitable.

Spotify can't track you blasting your Metallica CD while going 80 on the highway.

Good point. I'll listen to my favorite bands hundreds of times a month, but that metric would only count me as one monthly listener.

@@mariokarter13 😄You are sooo right!

Bruh that list contains nobody.

How are Fugazi doing?

HANABIE. is really starting to pick up.

Major labels are allowed to game Spotify, indendants aren't, they don't even get the same rate per play.

kanye west

Well it’s interesting but also discouraging

Agreed. Also always enlightening.

Numbers, data... Fascinating!

That’s the only thing I really love about the streaming services, the data you can get about people’s listening habits. It’s the stuff we always wanted to know.

It may be that music streaming is in much more direct attention and monetary competition with video players and those short 30 second song snippets these days anyway. So tiktok music artists may be bigger but just not in direct music streams but rather their videos and how much money they make there

nope

My thoughts exactly. I ripped all my CD’s and use RU-vid to find new artists. I don’t use any services.

I have 4500+ songs on my phone in mp3 or FLAC. Most are 80's and 90's music.

I have over 600GB of music that I collected over 20+ years. I've never used or paid for a streaming service. I'm 40. I use mp3's and wired headphones.

Arrrrrgh, mateys! Same here!

Yap, agree! Thankl you!

I dispair ... Inventive original music has almost vanished. Not worth listening to any chart channels ... Nearly all repetitive and to a formula ... Junk

True! I even still listen to cassettes! (43)

I'm in my mid 40's and never had a Spotify account. I did have a few trials at competing services tough. But this never fully convinced me. In the end, I prefer my music streaming from my own server. Most of the stuff on there I acutually buy on CD. Occacionally I make myself a mixtape (yes actual cassette tape) when I have enough new material collected and listen to this on the go on a walkman. I'm mostly into heavy metal btw.

I agree entirely, I listen to music all day long, I don't stream any of it, I buy albums, mostly on cd, I listen to a lot of old and new releases, mostly rock, metal and classical music

Drop some band names please?

@@metaltim Honest question: what does Amazon Music offer that Spotify doesn't? I can pull up Gojira and Magma albums on Spotify. How is Amazon different? Again, not a pointed question, I'm really wondering what I'm missing. ETA: maybe the difference is in the free version of each?

@@TheIboy505 EPICA, Kamelot, Queensryche

i have always made my own mix tapes and never really listened to albums. ever since my friend brought me 20gb of mp3 2o years ago i've been listening on shuffle (ah, winamp...)

What are some examples of "Oldies" for someone your age?

@@editingsecrets the temptations, buddy holly, Elvis. I’m 37

​@@AtomicNumber420 better put The 4 Seasons there.

​@@editingsecrets Probably songs from the 50s-70s

Great point. Even big artists have done this with album & ticket sales. So sad you have to buy your own stuff to get others to do so. Plus, these streaming platforms pay so little and you as an artist have zero say in how much you get it’s just not with it. I just decided what matters to me as an artist is that someone enjoys my music. I’ll never make money or hit the big time. My music has a purpose (ambient instrumental guitar music) and as long as it fulfills that then I’m happy.

@@michaelsnydermusic that's right! some kinds of music are really made for a few people. The people that don't care about music listen to easy uplifting staff, something that makes them dance. But a good show with strange music can move many is just that they not gonna listen to it in the car or at home. not all music is made for money. I've seen artists push hard and they get 20 40 k real listener, but it doesn't blow up, so buying 9000 is really pointless

75% of any album wasn't written or composed by the artist on the cover already. They are already "forcing" it as you put it

@@razorx999 Let's not forget about the industry buying views to keep their plants on top.

so much of social media and streaming is built on the idea that the general user base has no idea how the algorithm works so it can easily be used to manipulate them.

It would be like the librarian greeting you at the door to say "How about one of these ten books, they're our most popular this week" and most people never take another step inside.

@@editingsecrets Great analogy, spot on!

@@editingsecrets this exactly, and they actually make it difficult for you to bypass the recommended stuff. like you have to up your subscription plan and pay more money to go deeper into the library.

Same thing when a popular movie or TV show features an "old" song, i.e. "Running Up That Hill" on Stranger Things. Kids generally love 70s and 80s music when they are exposed to it.

Can't go wrong with Ol' Blue Eyes

Good music is good music. It was the Rock n’ Roll Hall of Fame that didn’t consider Kate Bush worthy until she became a hip retro artist.

My boys are in their 20s but in high school I discovered they made a playlist of 50s crooners (their grandparents' music) without any prompting from me. The youngest would fo homework while singing along! They have not listened to pop for at least a decade and we all love jazz

A while ago I heard a guy talking off the cuff in an interview about how it could be interesting to have something that resembled a TV but without image. It took him a second before he realized he had discovered radio. I see that kind of thing a lot. I've been waiting for someone to invent stoicism so the incessant whining about everything can stop.

Vinyl is frequently used for collector's style records, e.g. in in the vaporwave scene, made and packaged with visual artistry as well.

Yup. Bought my Beatles stuff in the 60s and 70s, and again when it was remastered. I have 4 versions of a few albums! I own well over half of what I listen to. No one can track it.

Yep. I nicked my dad's collection for half the Beatles & Floyd albums and bought the other half. 😅

This is a good point. I have a few thousand albums but subscribe to Amazon Music. Occasionally I'll play something I own when I don't feel like scrolling through the 128GB flash drive connected to my car's media interface.

Yes the subscription has changed the way data is compiled making it much less personal. Impersonal proceduralism via electronic consumerism masking the hidden hand of the corporation is a significant bias. Not only in the music industry is this occurring and the implications are underrated.

Agreed. Why would I pay the thieves at Spotify when (1) I own physical media (i.e., vinyl or CD) for roughly 80% of the music I listen to, or (2) for music I own only in a “purely digital” format, I buy it either directly from the artist (e.g., Khruangbin) when possible.

... and time- sitting in traffic at the end of a festival- their favorite artists streaming while they inch along with smiles on their faces

Hard for anyone to beat Taylor Swift, I think

Like how I keep trying to feed my baby spinach. She has enough taste to spit it out.

That's odd... I listen to a lot of classic rock too and it always recommends and plays music in that genre, both from artists I regularly listen to and from similar artists I haven't listened to yet. Do you share your account with someone who listens to pop or did you used to listen to pop? Sounds like your algorithm is messed up.

@@OLDGREGG315 I play a minimal amount of pop. Like I said I play about 80% rock 20 misc which includes some pop. Id say it's my algorithm but I know it does this to other people too. More of a Spotify algorithm problem.

I believe a few years ago Spotify even got in some troubles because until then, they had never opened their criterias about "what consists in a play" according to their annual reports, even to inverstors, and then it was out in the open. I personally don't agree that 30 seconds should count as a play, but.. it always gets down do business and money, and I guess form them it makes more money this way.

30 secs is 'seeing if you like a tune'. If you don't, you select another. This is a shoddy way of counting 'listens'. Spotify shoddy? Yep!

I cant understand the equating a certain amount of streams to a sale when you aren’t buying anything

@@shannonpincombe8485 I think the commenter meant the time before the end of the song. So like listening to a 3 minute song for 2 minutes 30 seconds vs 2 minutes 50 seconds. In my opinion anything over half the song should count as a listen. You clearly intended to listen to it, sometimes you have to do stuff in the middle of things.

@@bread7038 No I actually meant 30 seconds. Which to be fair, is better for the artists as they get their royalties quicker. Apple Music way is too much the other way. I'm a big play count nerd, so I have to wait until the song reaches the end before I can choose a new one. Thats a huge pain when the its like a 10 minutes song and theres just noise for a minute or so at the end.

Exactly.

You could just sell your soul. I’m going to bounce over and see if you have some music on your channel.

Niacin Flush?

@@Singingmygutsoutmusic That’s my old band. Look up West of House. We have four videos here and a bunch of music streaming. Thanks!!

Each day around 100k songs are uploaded to Spotify. Many of those songs will never be played, not even once! It's a sobering thought

Lab has been doing well the last few years. They ain't bad

That's why they're considered classics!

It is curious which songs the under 35 latch on to. Narrow subset.

@@Tom_McMurtry Uh. I'm happy for their success, but every time I hear them I could swear I've heard the exact same song before. Just not my jam, I guess.

@@whyyeseyec Global lists are absent of classics, sadly.

Good book reference, but Spotify, Apple Music, and RU-vid are all basically global streaming superpowers. There are some different tastes between them, but the change is almost unnoticeable. The main change is that Asia, including India, uses RU-vid a lot more than the other platforms.

Same, I started using Spotify a few years back, and the main reason why I stopped using it was because they didn't have a lot of songs I enjoy and listen regularly, and in the end I was always listening to the same old records I already had.

That sounds like a hassle huh, but i guess anyone can spend their free time doing whatever they want

Those were my thoughts as well. There are so many fantastic older artists who just don’t have a big Spotify base because as you said, the majority of their listeners (who certainly could be in the millions!) have all the music they want in a hard copy of some kind. I personally only got into Spotify over the last couple years so I still have tons of CDs that I regularly listen to.

@@squirrelhallowino29 Why would you assume that to be "a hassle"? I have about 1 TB worth of CDs, DTS, Hires-downloads and the odd collector's item sourced from vinyl that streams like a charm and everything that was sampled or ripped was done lossless and apart from the few seconds of manually swapping discs and restarting it was done while doing something else 🙂

Nothing can compare to having physical albums than just streaming them but Spotify and other streaming platforms are good for those who wants to explore music (old and new music) before deciding to buy the physical albums.

Well Daft Punk was known for being the couple of guys with big high tech helmets, and even if not everyone knew or cared, there was always a connection with Damon Albarn and Gorillaz, and he was an already established artist with Blur. Two points that I think made those bands famous are 1) they had good music -unlike most of the 'artists' now days-, and 2) they showed up as something different than themselves, with all the cartoons, masks, etc. (similar phenomenon as with Slipknot; a lot of people that don't listen to heavier music know Slipknot only because of the masks), which was not common back then. But overall, I think it comes to the good and interesting/different music. If someone comes up with some AI thing that makes good music, it will surely explode (being amongst the first ones would help as well), but if the music is all the same as the trends, it may just be like some of those 1-hit singers that you never hear from again.

But they have both been around (or were around in case of Daft Punk) for like two decades. And they both had gigantic marketing machines too, not to mention genius songwriters. All that without even taking into account that Damon Albarn was already huge because of Blur and he had a ton of experience and influence in the industry. There's no comparison here. Also those awesome helmets would damn well count as faces 😜

@@RatBotEins Yeah I agree, the lack of a face became the defining feature of those artists and created a kind of enigma around them. I does make the point about not needing fan interactions (or live performances in the case of Gorillaz) to gain a wide following, though. I also think that there is a big difference between faceless bands and an AI artist. Not showing your face becomes intriguing in a way, and you have to wonder who the "person X" is behind the song. They hide their face because it is a conscious style choice. If the song is written by a computer, everyone knows it is a computer, and everyone knows that they have no face to show. There is no mystery or intrigue.

@@kevincarlos973 I know what you mean, but I was just talking about how lack of fan interaction (live performances, interviews, etc.) does not necessarily have to hamper a band.

You gotta understand children of rich and/or influential people can buy themselves up on the rankings while having the best personnel making the music and teaching them to perform it. While e.g. Daft Punk Bangalter's father was a producer and probably pulled some strands Thomas still had to do something by himself, but having this relationship was certainly beneficial. Daft Punk also managed to create a some sort of mystery around the band which is one way to interact with fans. But, the AI band can be "fathered" by the industry, so it will be automatically connected to everything. I don't believe the first incarnations of AI music will appear on the lists just like that, although it could be just bought up on charts. Instead, there could be even an AI fake persona on Instagram boys can drool after, and you will see the whole development story of the character from virgin to slut and so on. Feedback of this persona and analysis of likes on Internet can be use to shape the story.

That's because linkin l Park are pop songs masquerading as metal. It's like backstreet boys with heavy guitar

Take away KISS and you have a killer sound set. lolol. I know, I know, they were awesome.

Ha, I'm a "boomer", I know, I'm only 15 years, but the music is what drives me.

@@oceancrosby4578 Exactly. It has a soul of its own and it sings to us all.

Very true. I subscribe (pay for) to Pandora and listen to multiple channels every single day.

The 30 second listen also makes me suspicious that there aren't automated listening computers that skips popular songs after 30 seconds just to build the listen count.

For the better IMO. When you don't have pressure to be pop you can be much more creative. We've seen the same thing in all genres that have taken a back seat.

Who cares about being on some common top 100 and being "superstars", Even artists way down these spotify lists gather big crowds live and make an comfortable living on their music. Pop have always be huge commercially.

Is it so hard for a rock band to make a hit record though? I don’t think it’s impossible. Pop punk has been experiencing a resurgence, and songs like Billie Eillish’s “Happier than Ever” & SZA’s “F2F” embraced rock instrumentals and Gen-Z loved it.

The thing is also how many of these famous rock bands or artists have stayed true to their sound? Much have become poppier.

@@westmus True. Not saying that it matters to me. I just hope there are people who are inspired enough to continue making it regardless

Yeah I’ve thought about that too. I’ll go for months sometimes without listening to all time favs like Mastodon or Pantera so according to a “monthly listeners” stat I don’t even like those bands anymore 😬

I wonder if Apple Music's recommendation algorithm is more likely to recommend the same artists that a listener is familiar with (or similar acts), while maybe Spotify's has more of a propensity to suggest new/unfamiliar artists and songs...

@@InventorZahran That would be a great thing to look into. Watching my girlfriend switch from Apple Music to Spotify, it looks like that could actually be the case. Spotify seems to recommend her a lot more variety, so far.

Paul is a great ambassador for their legacy. He’s constantly doing interviews and if you haven’t checked it out McCartney just did a fabulous breakdown of the Beatles recording techniques with Rick Rubin.

Very Good Point

That may be true, but you must admit that Both Rocket Man and Bohemian were / are remarkably original songs that are quite good listening. Not to mentino all of the other songs from these artists which are outstanding as well..... perhaps classic ?

No, they had movies made because they re popular. In Britain the top selling album of all time is Queens Greatest Hits.

@@gavinreid2741 Maybe that they were the top selling album of all time suggests that they were popular and that it was good music, original, etc. ? Some correlation perhaps ?

why not the Beatles then?

In my experience a lot of rock is about 3 minutes and there's a lot of rap at 4+ minutes

Time's ripe for a Ramones Revival!

thats why NOFX should be higher up then?

Great point really.

The same thing struck me as I was watching the video. I'm sure that'd be a significant factor. People are only listening for a finite amount of time, so the length of the songs they're listening to would dramatically affect how many songs they'd hear.

I thought it was about who can scam people out of their money the fastest. Oh wait, that's this decade.

We have soooo much that we didn't have in 2011. What are you talking about? This has more to do with your interest in paying attention to what's happening than nothing happening in general. Popular music has been stagnating for 20+ years though.

I think rock started becoming stagnant well before 2010.

As an old guy whose kids are now teenagers, I'd have to say that the period 2010-2016 was a veritable golden age for pop music. I heard what my kids were listening to, and I was playing in a parents band at their school that covered the songs. Uptown Funk - great song with a fun bassline to play. Desposito - great song. Riptide, Feel it Still, High Hopes, Take Me To Church - great songs. Drake had quite a few classic tracks. It's just a fact that there were lots and lots of eminently hummable tunes on the radio in that period. But for the last six or seven years, it's been trash. The Weeknd bringing back the 80s has been the only stuff (barely) worth listening to.

@@aquamarine99911 80s and 90s were the best. 2000s and onward pop artists are just overly compressed autotune drones.

this is what i always remind myself. i may not enjoy what's currently being played on the radio, but i don't have to listen to it. i can listen to any music i want in a variety of different formats, and as long as that is still possible, no genre will ever totally die out.

How do we find the music that we WANT to listen to? Where did we access all the amazingly talented artists that aren't represented in the Spotify statistics for 500 most streamed artists?

@@sonicproof5625 Uh, right here on RU-vid.

@@jeremyc9593 Really? I think the algorithm that is used to make suggests for videos to watch was much better a few years back. I find that it either brings up too many videos from my viewing history or selections that are totally irrelevant. I just tested the difference between using RU-vid whilst logged in to my account and using RU-vid in a new incognito window. Using the same search inquiry "beato" brings up the exact same result for the first 10 suggestions before offering different but similar selections. I clicked on the first video with both instances of RU-vid🎵🎶 which was the same clip "This Insider Spotify Data Is MIND-BLOWING. Now the list of suggested videos is vastly different; The incognito RU-vid is mainly offering more Beato clips with a few other music theory and guitar equipment reviews plus clips of bands that are featured in recent Beato videos like Linkin Park and Nuno Bettencourt - where as the RU-vid logged into my acct is suggesting more Beato along with music theory, guitar lessons and interviews with musicians plus a dozen or more videos of live performances as well as a heap of music clips that I've recently viewed.

@@sonicproof5625 Oh, I definitely agree. The algorithm was most definitely better a few years back. Now I seem to have to force it down the right path by clicking on a song or music video I already know, and then searching the "recommended" videos on the right side to find and click on another video until it finally starts to show me new but similar music. It's not nearly as good or convenient as it used to be, but it still works for me.

As someone doing a PhD in Information Systems I'd like to express my aversion against "As someone" comments. Everyone with a middle IQ should be able to logically get trough descriptive statistics, even data frames.

AI will be even faster at releasing music.

Well, it helps when you have 7-10 producers for one track, with greed as the driving factor. As you can tell, talent has nothing to do with the charts. You're spot on with the Latin Pop genre. Just the same "doo key-doo key" moombaton drum loop. Not only for every song but, every artist!?

@@undagroundsoundproductions4214 yup, and you don't need to worry about chord progressions and lyrics, because all you need in those latin songs is that the words end all in the same letter: "tu me llevas a la cimA tu eres la que me excitA tu la rompes en la pistA" and that's it!

@@bboyhanvzla Hahhaha, I never realized that 'til now. Probably 'cause I couldn't get past the monotobeat, and I'm a fan of Moombahton. From a DJ to a bboy, we still know what's up. All these "artists" trying to bite Hip Hop's style but know nothing of the 4 pillars. It's funny how it all comes back to Hip Hop. Even country tryna get in the game now.

I agree with your analysis. I would add that it's all about marketing -> money. If you somehow 'make' it as an artist, you've become part of your positive feedback loop. It's why I have stopped listening to radio, and I would encourage everyone to compile their playlists on whatever device/platform/software you'd like to use (preferably one where they don't bombard you with ads or limit your capabilities unless you pay) and go down the rabbit hole somewhat. There you'll find the less recognized artists and hopefully convince them not to go for the big time (big cash). Sadly, there is a lot of competition and music doesn't pay well unless you have lots of listeners.

You are so right. Avoid those stations and tune into something that doesn't do that, and you'll be happier. Maybe a classic rock station?

The charts are manipulated. I know we don't hear about this a lot but there is a lot of evidence that the mob got involved in the record business a long time ago. It's well hidden and well organized crime. Look into the artists who have spoken out against the industry. ThEy all say similar things and some even even openly say it was

Very well said, I guess most of the people on this forum agree. It is indeed a worrying development, where the songs are no longer musical creations to be enjoyed. Just mechanical speculative and ice-cold push-button compositions, which drive a person with a reasonably developed musical mind to insanity. Just business and business again. The songs are often meaningless products that should bring in as much cash as possible - cynicism in cubic!

I'm a part-time volunteer DJ on a non-commercial college radio station; check out one in yr area & support it....

Whatever is on SNL is going to mainstream garbage 😂

I think the point of the video was that there are many many red flags that this is corrupt information... If I'm not mistaken the subtext of the video is that these numbers are derived from spoofing or bots are some other thing like that... The simple fact that that 20% differential exists between number one and number two is abright bright bright red flag

Right!? I hate when I call someone to catch up and their like "you could've just texted me". Sorry for wanting to hear a friend's voice? OK, now I know I don't need to catch up with you. You show you have no drive to catch up, as well and have nothing of real substance I'd like to hear. Go back to your abnormal neck-bending habit of staring at a piece of metal and glass and hate comment on FB 7 more times.

And you are watching Rick’s digital video and commenting on it through your high tech cell phone via RU-vid. 🫤

Its sad😮

You still can.

@@JS45678 Rick's opinions are based on decades of real world experiences playing real instruments, with other people in person, for audiences in person, and working with bands in person in the studio. It's not the opinion of someone who's only ever reacted to things that popped up on their phone, about something else that popped up on their phone.

Taylor Swift has never been #1

I personally dont trust anything big tech... I dont trust any numbers they put out... manipulation to a great extent is their game.. always.

Just like with radio... A&R would pay radio stations " payola" to spin on their A rotation what the record companies wanted.

Amen.

On spot! I think Rick should focus on the art form or craft.

There will be seperate websites specially for seperate fanbases. Possibly get quite harder to upload music out of some specific conditions out of real world, but will worth it

Some music falls under both. Like Dark Side of the Moon. Artistically and financially successfully.

Yes! Altough the they gained a lot through viral songs.

Rick is using his clout to meet with his heroes. Can't say I blame him, though.

Man...Shakira is in the charts because of the controversy with her ex husband Pique. Her recent songs were really boring and simple and are in the charts only because they're criticizing her ex husband's new girlfriend.. it's actually sad

Jee 1984? Thats a long time ago

@@intjtrader Shakira has been been a giant in streaming era before that song came out but I agree with you, that song is really boring and far from her best, not because the lyrics anyway. Her earlier stuff is better, even her Spanish album that came before her first English album.

Even more impressive is the likes of Beatles, Hendrix, Zeppelin, The Doors having more than at least 10mil+ monthly listeners. 3 of those careers ended 50+ years ago while Zeppelin ended in 1980.

You aren't looking hard enough. Bands are still very much alive and very popular within their own genres, local scenes, culture etc... they're not at superstar level as the landscape of music has changed drastically since the early 2000s but there are still many bands making a living off of their music as well as new bands forming in local scenes constantly

Rock and metal have been pushed underground due to labels buying a lot of the "mainstream" radio stations. Most rock and metal is played on independent online radio stations now and all sub-genres are very much alive and well! You just need to know where to look. I no longer listen to broadcast radio because of this. Rock n Roll will never die!

Same. I just don't get it either. It's about as soul stirring as pasteurized milk.

Lowest common denominator. Just absolute wallpaper music for the boringest of people.

@Jason Brayshaw And it's not an age gap thing. It's a pied piper mentality.. Everybody and their friends all like what everyone else does . It's almost like it's all tied into the social media "must have likes to be cool and accepted" crowd.

He’s millennial Billy Joel

@@untexan Ed Sheeran wishes he could write "Piano Man"

This

Yeah, the AI consequences don't seem to be unlikely considering how big companies and studios can easily just go for the cheapest option. And real people will suffer because of it

The issue isn't that AI will crack the top 40 or 400. It's that it will be owned and played by Spotify in your playlist without any artist making a dime.

I think AI will revive a love for live performance at least for a short while. Performing music might also have to adapt and become a lot more social and interactive. Something an AI wouldn't be able to do with as much human impact, at least for a while. I expect to see a lot more stand-up comedy with music routines, for example. In a weird way, musicians might kind of go back to being bards.

I recently saw some Korean guy in an interview eagerly touting the creation of A.I. avatars/characters/bands that would be able to interact with their audience and "it would listen to your problems and people will feel like it is a real friend". I give that scenario less than 5 year to come to fruition, and it will start in Asia.

It is hard to get good recommendations. The algorithm has a very narrow focus.

This is a baffling opinion that somehow a lot of people share. Its incredibly easy to find new artists and songs. Search the genre playlists. For every genre there will be one for new releases.