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We take a look at the Dell OptiPlex 7000 Micro as part of our Project TinyMiniMicro review series. In this video, we see why this is a great step forward with the Intel Alder Lake generation 12 core, 20 thread Intel Core i7-12700 processor. We also compare it to the Dell OptiPlex 7090 Micro and even show some things that are challenged by Dell's 1L PC design.
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00:00 Introduction Dell OptiPlex 7000 Micro
02:07 External Hardware Overview and OptiPlex 7090 Micro Differences
06:37 Internal Hardware Overview
07:45 Samsung PCIe Gen4 NVMe SSD Heat Challenges
10:26 Performance Intel Core i7-12700 Edition
11:55 Power Consumption, Noise, and Thermal Throttle
16:24 Key Lessons Learned
18:38 Wrap-up
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@mariuszj3826 Год назад

I will say this guy's enthusiasm for micro computers gets me every time. Thanks to him I made a choice to buy myself a 3050 dell micro. This channel is definitely worth everyone's time. I'm not disappointed with my purchase thanks to this channel.

@ServeTheHomeVideo Год назад

Thank you. Glad you are enjoying your TMM experience

@aednichols Год назад

Patrick is the only person I’ve come across who shares my degree of enthusiasm for this model line!

@MiguelMejia85 Год назад

Yeh, but I get tired of hearing "this" so many times

@Christobevii3 Год назад

Been using the 7050 and 7060 mff's at work for a while and they are always noticeably slower than the full size units with the same specs. Dell really needs to fix the cooling aspects of these and find a batter power adapter that has the brick on one end or the other and not a middle laptop style.

@MrElectroman3 Год назад

it's contagious. His passion has made me pay attention to 1L PCs more and they're definitely more front-of-mind and easy to suggest & recommend now :)

@aednichols Год назад

@@Christobevii3 It could be that your units came with the lower-power "T" CPUs to save power. The apples-to-apples comparison would be using full-power CPUs with the 65W thermal solution.

@Christobevii3 Год назад

@@aednichols same cpu specs between all three with our corporate contract direct with dell.

@stuartlunsford7556 Год назад

Dang it Dell, you were so close. Make that 2.5g LAN standard already! Maybe next year, haha.

@oappi4686 Год назад

at this point 10Gbit should be standard in all PC:s, We have USB standard that is 2x or 4x of that, but I guess many people have only one PC at home with out NAS.

@giornikitop5373 Год назад

@@oappi4686 10gb is much more expensive and a bit hotter. also some cheaper modules have trouble connecting at lower speeds. but as others have mentioned, most likely dell doesn't want these things to be used as low power servers, as this might interfere with their bottom-cost server products.

@trumanbeal5668 Год назад

Sending you the unit was an incredibly smart thing to do, as they will likely sell quite a few purely because of this video.

@AmstradExin Год назад

But how many.....over 1K for one is a bit......

@ryutenmen Год назад

"incredibly smart" lol 😂 No dude, its just first level/obvious move on their part to try to benefit on, it's nothing special.

@Wirenfeldt1990 Год назад

@@ryutenmen they are not mutually exclusive.. Putting a parachute on before jumping out of a plane is both incredibly smart and an obvious choice too for instance..

@VraccasVII Год назад

Love the flow of these videos now, and especially the new desk and background setup. I need something for my eyes to go over while I'm listening every so often, so an interesting background actually keeps my focus better than the previous studio background

@ServeTheHomeVideo Год назад

Thank you

@stuartlunsford7556 Год назад

Love that open fan port over the ddr5. If you go high density, the cooling might actually be needed.

@zoiks6631 Год назад

I think buying these used is the way to go. A week ago, I bought a very lightly used 5090 with a 10th gen i5 cpu and Windows 11 Pro for only $350. I spent $30 to upgrade the RAM from 8 GB to 16 GB, and it runs great. I’m using it as a media server.

@Dutch-vj2eg Год назад

Apart from a couple of Sony laptops, all the PCs in my home are DELL, I like that I can log on and get drivers and updates quickly and safely. I recently bought a very cheap used 7040 micro and upgraded the drive and added RAM. The STH videos have been hugely helpful in choosing a model and doing the upgrades. Thanks!!

@noahlistgarten7832 Год назад

Another fantastic review. After watching STH a few years ago I picked up and upgraded a pair of HPE MicroServer G10+ units. However I was looking to downsize my “Production” homelab (Websites, Plex, Pihole, Tailscale, and a few other services). After watching a bunch of this series I ended up getting a Dell 7060 Micro and it’s been awesome for me! I keep my two HPE Microservers as “test” homelab gear but I might even be looking to sell one as my “test” stuff doesn’t really require two full fat servers lol

@ServeTheHomeVideo Год назад

The 7060 is great!

@amp888 Год назад

7:35: The PM9A1 series (you can see this on the left side of the label, along with the model number) is the OEM variant that's basically equivalent to the 980 Pro, FWIW.

@ServeTheHomeVideo Год назад

Yes.

@BansheeBunny Год назад

It might be worthwhile to do a short 5-10 minute revisit after adding a heatsink to the SSD if there is room in the chassis or downgrading to a PCIe 3.0 NVMe.

@ChrisNguyen01 Год назад

Is the heatsink mount custom? Think we can swap it out with something beefier if you're willing to keep the case off?

@v4847 Год назад

A ssd heatsink would be nice but easy to add on. I would like to see the case being used a passive heatsink to allow for some increase cooling and maybe reduce fan speed for spikes in CPU utilization.

@ValdeSanus Год назад

Can't you configure the TDP in the BIOS? Or even with Intel XTU? You should be able to set the PL1/PL2 to 35W

@dtitan1993 Год назад

anyway to add an additional nic on this or the NUCS, Asus PN , or Lenovo Think Tiny?

@lard1892 Год назад

How cool does this run with top off??? What about cooling ports put in top above fan?? Or opening up fan intake??

@kevingonzaga9366 Год назад

How did you get that Wi-Fi set up (8:28)? I can’t find that kind of antena online:( I’m have a 7000 and am looking for a good Wi-Fi solution rather than running an ethernet cable across the room

@skaltura Год назад

I would like to see you review remote management features on these too, these would make brilliant tiny servers for small stuff

@ServeTheHomeVideo Год назад

One of our writers Will wanted to do a piece on this and I said go for it. Not sure if it will be a video too, but good idea.

@haxwithaxe Год назад

Do these have wake on lan? It would be nice to be able to start an array of these on demand.

@Acheron2010 Год назад

Would be interesting to see this unit compared to others, such as the Minisforum HX90 for about half the price.

@AndresAguirreRodriguez Год назад

Hi..Somebody knows if this mini's can be used to run tekla structure software?

@goata007 Год назад

@ServeTheHome I'm looking for a PC in this formfactor but with at least 2.5Gbe LAN. Can you recommend one?

@ayoutubechannel6488 Год назад

Does anyone know if its possible to disable the E cores on these?

@callmebigpapa Год назад

Power usage is surprisingly high.....my Dell R730 will lots of drives only uses ~150 watts and has a lot of CPU headroom ....downside is that they can be pretty loud if you don't tweak the fan and power profile settings. Great review!!! Looking to get one of these also, so this is helpful.

@0w784g Год назад

Can you set something like this up as a NAS? Are there good options for hooking up lots of storage to a device like this over USB?

@alphenit Год назад

We need the guts of this system in a NAS case. Hooking up storage over USB is not a good idea I think

@technologyanimals Год назад

Complete insane power draw for this form factor, thankfully it's only for short bursts.

@incanus9 Год назад

All the micro Optiplex systems I can see online have fixed configurations, but the video shows a working configurator. Did Dell change in the two weeks since this video came out or am I missing something?

@ServeTheHomeVideo Год назад

It takes awhile, but usually one has a custom configurator. You are right it is a pain.

@spicyandoriginal280 Год назад

it would be great to compare the stock cooler throttling behaviour with a copper version from an older model - assuming that the mounting is compatible. After market mods would be fun.

@ServeTheHomeVideo Год назад

It is hard to do that since fans change. We can probably try to do versus HP or Lenovo

@bzmrgonz Год назад

@@ServeTheHomeVideo i see more of a problem with the external plastic grid blocking the flow of air. Push some smoke thru the fan to give us a visual as the air exits!! The only other choice would be to swap for a higher end laptop fan. Visually it looks like dell chose old overstock fans.

@deusexaethera Год назад

It's funny you should mention the mismatched logo orientation on the case. At my previous job (pre-2011), we bought a few of the larger Dell OptiPlex desktops, and I discovered one day that Dell actually made the logo medallion able to rotate so it would be right-side-up whether the computer was standing upright or laying down.

@hjb2tube Год назад

We have some 20 Optiplex 9020's and I changed the logo orientation accordingly. Very old Optiplex models used to be able to rotate the logo manually without any tool.

@Tempo_Gigante Год назад

So the PCIe pinholes are for the Precission 3260 2L model. I got one, but since I didn't get the GPU package they didn't provide the raiser board - I r so pissed. Dell didn't provide the SATA parts either.

@5k4nt3r2k1 Год назад

Perhaps this might sound a bit extreme; but do you think the following might be realistic i.e. we get a dell 240watts psu, with two pci out x16 with one having a pci 16 to x4 m.2 and another one to a quadro rtx 3000 mxm, and 64gb ram ? I really like the form factor and cpu on this model and wanted to have a good zfs nvme nas and powerful vm workstation.

@deathrow9 Год назад

Were moving to these at work to replace our older HP and Dell MFF PCs. Even the i5's cook themselves. Imaging these stacked on eachother creates a nice little space heater for few hours. Youre also correrct about the black box on the back, its the antenna which is similar to how HP did it on the G2 MFF series.

@jannegrey593 Год назад

Max Power that it showed was 181.6 W. But only for split second. I wonder if (due to socket lever being present - I didn't finish the video yet BTW) you can change CPU's or at least use better Thermal Paste on this thing and maybe small fan? Or use similarly sized, better designed copper heat sink coming with a fan?

@ServeTheHomeVideo Год назад

In a $1475 Dell system, you should not have to change thermal paste.

@jannegrey593 Год назад

@@ServeTheHomeVideo Well, duh. But if you can and if you can "mod" it, it would be cool. Also I didn't know the price of a unit. Wow, this is expensive.

@ronwatkins5775 Год назад

Do you have a spreadsheet comparing price to performance for these small computers?

@wombatdk Год назад

We're using those a lot. They're perfect for e.g. office use. Tiny and powerful.

@drumyogi9281 Год назад

I am IT and we have a bunch of these. One is having thermal events. It hit 100C. Brand new. I changed thermal paste but still about the same. Not sure what to do.

@zsoltiacerna Год назад

I bought a dell 7040m but I'm really disappointed regarding the noise of the fan. Do you know any solution for the fan noise?

@ServeTheHomeVideo Год назад

Cleaning the fan would probably be the first step. Usually used units have fans that are not clean and that makes them noisier

@svettnabb Год назад

That cooling assembly is mounted with two clips? Thats probably going to rattle when the plastic gets a bit old.

@fwiler Год назад

I know we can easily find it ourselves, but a link to the actual product on Dell's website would be nice. I like these units, but they always leave me wanting. Like ability to add 10Gb or make one just a little thicker for more storage options, etc.

@DigitalJedi Год назад

That's the one option I wish we could have in those flexible I/O slots. I could totally use a 5Gb/s or 10Gb/s nic in that slot.

@hjb2tube Год назад

I bought a used Lenovo m920q with a 9th-gen core i5 and I love it, but it does not stand vertically by itself. I wish more people like you make this demand to the companies making these little tiny desktops: they should come standard with a base to make them more stable when put in vertical position. The case is so tiny and I like it, but when put in vertical position the entire PC will move when pressing the power button or inserting/removing a USB device. I am still planning to build something like two small stands in this shape __|_|__ simple and effective.

@kutasyk1 10 месяцев назад

Can anyone recommend quiet micro pc with core i5 or core i7?

@hydr0zagadka Год назад

thunderbolt as option is possible?

@brandonupchurch7628 Год назад

I think they could've just went with the newer Laptop CPUs, they could've done a cool option where you can get the vPro CPUs and get ECC Ram.

@barney9008 Год назад

still rocking twin westemere chips as a home server, genuinly considering buying even an older model of this and throwing away my big tower pc re-casing theese into a 24 bay scrap supermicro and using that as my nas for like 180w peak rather than 850 max

@Mack_Dingo Год назад

are those Wiha screwdrivers on the shelf?

@fcknhellmate Год назад

I wish this series included some analysis how to add 10Gbps connectivity to these boxes, because without it 1Gbps is kinda limiting them in networking department.

@kehaarable Год назад

Where did you get that map of world? it looks neat! I want one

@dirtyminerapparel Год назад

I have one of these. We even considered using them for VDI at the office. We tested it with Horizon desktop and might consider Azure with these in the future. Dell sent us a couple as eval and we also had Microsoft send out several Surface tablets and laptop to test with this.

@ServeTheHomeVideo Год назад

So cool!

@mrtmo153241 Год назад

Does Dell offer an optional 2.5gb Ethernet port on these?

@snowballak Год назад

wonder if we can get a bios update to support 13th gen.

@stevenv2190 Год назад

We use Lenovo "tiny" at work and these units are quite versatile. Some could even be good enough for home theater use (use a NAS for storage).

@ServeTheHomeVideo Год назад

Totally. Lenovo Tiny's are my favorite design currently.

@FirstLast-hh9fl Год назад

This is a great unit, love the review.

@AlexBoneChannel Год назад

Finally a video on the 12th gen Micro 😃

@ServeTheHomeVideo Год назад

I know... too long! The 1L PC's trail announcement by some time, then these were expensive for us to buy.

@kenzieduckmoo Год назад

im sure theyll have to upgraded cooling once they start putting raptor lake in there, even if theyre using 30-65w variants of the chips. maybe even a vented top

@frederickalfaro9493 Год назад

I vaguely recall seeing something about flash itself not wanting cooling but the controllers for NVME do want it for optimal performance

@ServeTheHomeVideo Год назад

Often that is the case, but the PCB can heat up as a result of the controller and that can transfer some heat into adjacent NAND.

@emailkanji Год назад

Flash performs and last longer when cool. The premise that it lasted longer when hot was a misunderstanding. It's always better to be cool but being near and below freezing can be a problem.

@DigitalJedi Год назад

@@emailkanji Flash performs best around 40-60C depending on the SSD. Micron drives seem to be a little more touchy than the rest when it comes to temps.

@gsuberland Год назад

@@ServeTheHomeVideo Yes, but a heatsink is a high thermal conductivity block of metal, whereas an FR4 PCB with 0.035mm copper layers has a much lower thermal conductivity, so the heatsink is absolutely guaranteed to raise the NAND IC temperatures unless you're throwing incredible amounts of forced air at it.

@shephusted2714 Год назад

new sbc will be octo core for quite a while but the new mini pc out with x86 are pretty nice - runs everything and the fact that these mini pc can run 32/64gb ram is nice - the zen4 mobile chips with rdns3 will be nice - maybe you can do a comparo benchmark with different types of nodes - arm vs x85 vs new gen sbc vs 7th gen refurb or 10th gen refurb - they may have more 100g options? the world is moving to 100gbe for smb - clients can upgrade to 200g! - also we need to ask is 640kb ai enough for every person on earth - mi300 is really going to turn up the workload for apu that is for sure - the age of 4k gaming is here and ai compute is doubling every 3mos, the 100 tflop ws is here also - fairly significant

@spiceyfrenchtoast9421 Год назад

Vega 8 or even some of the older Ryzen Vega 11 chips are perfect students or hobbiests. Guess that's why they are not cheap second hand

@GamingFruguy Год назад

Got a new job at a bank and they use all Dell micro PCs and Dell laptops. They let me take some 5000 series models that were being disposed of. Have yet to get anything up and running with them yet, but excited to use them.

@ServeTheHomeVideo Год назад

Wow cool!!!

@themartinc123 Год назад

I feel like the audio set up in the new set needed work. The audio quality is noticeably worse/muddy. Or did patrick recorded the VO/in the new set with a cold?

@ServeTheHomeVideo Год назад

100% it is. Actually, we got interference on the mic that Alex and I did not notice until I was in California for OCP Summit this week. That worse quality is same model (MKH 416) but is from having to do hiss removal.

@cszulu2000 Год назад

Can you remove WiFi for more storage?

@t8z5h3 Год назад

Is that a thunderbolt port on the front?

@PhilfreezeCH Год назад

3:55 That is the new USB-IF recommended branding, so we should see this much more sane naming scheme more in the future.

@aironwhite6533 Месяц назад

Great video! Last year I bought a dell 7050 micro for about $95 with 8gb ram and a 128gb ssd. I removed the ssd and installed my 1tb sata ssd that I had and installed linux mint. It ran it great. Later I upgraded the ram to 32 gb. And just recently I installed a wifi card and ant. It has the vga addon also. Maybe later I will get a m.2 hard drive and install a large sata storage drive to hold files. It runs linux mint perfectly even with just 8gb ram with plenty of responsiveness. Just limited running vms in virutal box. I love it.

@ServeTheHomeVideo Месяц назад

Super deal

@Heffen89 Год назад

I have couple of them at work, the lack of a forth USB port at the rear side of the 65W model is really hurting a lot. IMHO those micro PCs should have six USB-A ports on the rear side by default. With keyboard and mouse two ports are already gone, having four extra ones makes so much more sense, especially If you want to connect multiple monitors and want to use all of their internal hubs too. Some pepole also use USB printers at their desk.

@mattmichael2441 Год назад

6 type om the rear would likely take up too much space on the month board:(

@pfcrow Год назад

Yes, I miss keyboards with USB ports on them. That seems like such a great solution for mice, reduces cables, and frees up a port on the computer. But it adds cost to the keyboards, so they're not the default. In a few years when everything is using USB-C plugs, that will free up some space to add more.

@Heffen89 Год назад

@@pfcrow Has anyone seen quadruple stacked USB-C connector receptables yet? I only see USB-C in combo with USB-A or RJ45.

@Gillysaurxx 5 месяцев назад

Love these! Super easy to upgrade as well

@vladimirljubopytnov5193 Год назад

I believe this was no thermal throttling, but rather normal kick down to PL1 after tau of 1 minute. Pretty admirable, though, my lenovo mini 8700T has tau of 6 seconds and 35w PL1. In exchange for being somewhat quieter.

@konzo5942 Год назад

Have you looked at the Lenovo p350 and the newer versions? Similar size with a pcie slot. Someone put a custom cooler on an a2000 in one of these, probably the most performance per liter of system ever.

@DigitalJedi Год назад

There's a lot of extra space in the space dedicated to that heatsink. I feel like you could have it extend all the way to the back of the case.

@ServeTheHomeVideo Год назад

Yes. Some designs do this

@AQLV Год назад

Man I really hope we get a Ryzen 7000G version of this, especially since it's becoming more clear that Zen 4 APU's with Navi GPU's are going to stomp even the GTX 1660

@PatrickPecoraro Год назад

Where did you get those 5th element stones?

@ServeTheHomeVideo Год назад

I had them made about a year ago on etsy IIRC. I wanted to use them as a background for an important piece, so they were featured in the Milan-X article/ video ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-oUugk0INTRU.html

@Pressbutan Год назад

Honestly I’m still very satisfied with my 5080/10500T opti. Thanks for the excellent reviews and helping me pick it.

@ServeTheHomeVideo Год назад

The Core i5-10500T is great!

@JeffDeWitt Год назад

They are pervious generations but we use a bunch of these little suckers at work. I'm not a Dell fan (Dell is a four letter word after all), but these are great little machines. We use them on welders, ovens, measuring systems, pretty much anything where we don't need an expansion card. Tough little workhorses.

@bartgrefte Год назад

"dual E5-2670 vs modern SFF system" What I still miss in SFF-systems like this is support for ECC, for some that might be something essential which is currently lacking in such systems. I don't suppose you can look for systems that do support it (if they exist at all) and create a review about those, compared with old power hungry dual Xeon servers?

@JasonsLabVideos Год назад

Awesome Video Patrick !! Love it !!

@iaksakkah Год назад

love your videos on tiny micro, i believe you are missing a review on the most overlooked tiny pc 1L that actually has a fully size x16 pci-e slot for a graphics card plug in an rx 580 to a dell expternal power supply and this thing plays games really well

@alexmm01 Год назад

Finally a micro PC with a powerful CPU and DDR5. Most have a 12700T and DDR4. I wonder how much cooler a 12700H would run. Great review. I hope we get a micro PC (that isn't a laptop) with a 13700H and DDR5. I had a 7500T and 8500T Dell Optiplex micro and neither got hot enough to thermal throttle. And you talk about the Geekbench score but you never show it or say what it was. I'd like it because it is easy to compare to our own system.

@tibbydudeza Год назад

I have a earlier hexacore model and use it as a MS SQL server in my homelab - it is a rather awesome form factor - also have HPE Gen 10 for use a NAS (Unraid) but I don't think I will ever replace it due the builtin 4 HDD bays - had bad luck with an external 4 HDD USB 3 drive bay. But I need a replacement for my desktop (i7-6700) and this might be the way to go - scaling down and using less power.

@RollnBy106 Год назад

Intel Core i7-12700 with quick sync and UHD 770... any chance you could do some testing on transcoding with jellyfin, emby, or plex? In theory, this thing should be able to transcode 4k without busting a sweat.

@d.p1304 Год назад

Maybe I missed it, but you don't seem to talk about the graphic card or built in graphics on these mini PC's

@davidneale530 Год назад

I went for the 5000 version of this, it's the same board but missing the second NVMe connector, 35W only and DDR4 only (when purchasing anyway). It does take a 2.5" SATA drive though. Got it with the 15-12600T and it performs really well for dev work using Visual Studio. I also got the rear USB-C and am driving a 5k 5120x2160 monitor plus two more 4k monitors using the display ports, and that's what ruled out the Lenovo equivalent for me, the Dell is much better for multiple monitors.

@davidneale530 Год назад

@@plutoisacomet 5080->5090->5000 Hopefully they've ironed out more problems by now! It's working very well in my un-corporate small business office and when they next have a good deal on it, I might get another for home.

@carlbavington9695 Год назад

Can you share a link to the USB-C card. I can't find it at all a Dell aren't helping, getting bounced between Sales and Tech Support. Thanks.

@carlsagan2371 Год назад

I'd like these to be compared to the HP Elitedesk minis, as I've got one of those and they're awesome little power savers. Also more USB ports than the Dell so it'd be great to see which of these two series do better at what. Got mine specifically because of the energy hike (150w idle Xeon workstation vs 10w idle HP mini pc) so needed some real sensible power consumption for what is essentially text editing and cmd/terminal workloads.

@ServeTheHomeVideo Год назад

The HP's I like better than Dell.

@mhtechuk1769 Год назад

HPs are miles better..

@MarkChilds Год назад

Nice review. Is one of your 5th Element stones upside down? ;-)

@familyshare3724 Год назад

Do any 1L PCs have a battery? Essentially a full powered configurable upgradeable laptop with external monitor, keys, mouse.

@ServeTheHomeVideo Год назад

No, but I think they assume people will just get UPSes or other external batteries to power them

@moebius2k103 Год назад

Deployed a bunch of the previous gens of these. All the staff got i5 and all the managers got i7. The i7 system noise can only be described as 'jet engines'. Windows updates were the highest load in their use and would always trigger jet mode for the fan. Everyone gets i5 now if I have any say in the purchasing decision.

@jacobsouth2368 Год назад

i use an older lenovo m920x as a router/firewall as it has a pcie slot so i was able to set up a 10gb router interface with it, i think thats the one thing that would prevet me from upgrading it i just feel like the pcie slot is a big deal for my use cases.

@thomasluggiero3413 Год назад

I have one with a i7-12700 (65W). Fast as hell with gen 4 nvme. I think it might be a similiar motherboard used in the precision 3240/3260 compact which has a riser card on that slot 1. We get a lot of noise complaints at work on these 65w units for fan noise.

@reignmack Год назад

whats the limit on RAM ?

@shadowarez1337 Год назад

These would rock if I could ever find a way to get android tv stable on x86 Nvidia shield is popping the bed lately with its issues.

@Moldags Год назад

You know you are watching the right channel when the new set has the stones from the 5th Element!

@amessman Год назад

If these went in my homelab I'd 3D print some delta fan adapters.

@angrycockatiel1829 Год назад

Unlike many of the people buying these, I use my micro desktop as my daily driver. I use it as my personal machine as well as my work machine. I'm currently sporting an Optiplex 3080 Micro, with 64 GB of RAM, an i5 10500T, and a WD Black SN770 1TB. It works amazingly well for what I need it to do, but I've been wanting to play some games on my ultrawide monitor and thus started coveting recent higher end models. The lack of appropriate cooling in these makes me shudder away from the 65W options, and now I'm wondering how long it'll be until I build myself a modest desktop to be able to play some casual games. That said, once I move on from these, I'd definitely love to get a couple of used Optiplex 3080 Micros and a small network switch to make myself a nice Kubernetes cluster, hosting Plex, a Minecraft server, and more. It would eliminate the need I have for my VPS. Here's hoping these will get better and better and soon reach the point more and more people use them as their main computers.

@ricoigor 11 месяцев назад

I have the Optiplex 3000 which I modified to have a tower cooler. The heat is just way too high on the i5-12500T with the stock cooler. Now I can change the processor even to an i9 if I want.

@TheAuriconGroup Год назад

Can you tell us what this unit costs?

@gmailaaaa 9 месяцев назад

Hi. Great videos! I really like them. One thing that I would want to see is a comparison between 1L PCs and laptops, because I feel that laptops have become less repairable and very expensive and no longer provide a justifiable performance to cost ratio for users to purchase them. Plus if one part goes wrong, such as a flex cable or battery, we might have to throw the entire laptop as original parts are not available after 3 years generally. I am specifically looking to use a portable display from Dell or Lenovo and couple it with 1L PC. But I am not sure if performance, whether games can be played, or whether they will be better than laptops that heat up and throttle. If you could make some content on it, it would be very interesting.

@user136002 Год назад

It's missing one thing to be a knockout - 10gbe. Using these for any heavy proxmox workload I'd be worried about storage latency.

@ServeTheHomeVideo Год назад

Just wait. We have it. Video later this month, probably between the Genoa launch and Thanksgiving

@pandersen7984 Год назад

the labeling of the USB ports is the latest recommended standard for end users and consumers - it actually makes a lot of sense... Level1Techs, LTT, GamersNexus, etc. have all covered the confusion of the technical standard and the disarray of the naming conventions used since circa 2010 of the various versions of USB 3.x... USB 3 made some sense, but USB 3.0, 3.1, & 3.2 and Gen 1, Gen 2x1 Gen2x2, etc. was pure madness..

@msd5808 Год назад

Very interesting. Thanks for this comparison. I was tempted to get the non-T version of the 13500 Micro on Dell's Outlet, now I am not sure (as 13th gen runs even hotter than 12th). May wait for the 28W Meteor Lake Asus Mini PC instead.

@ServeTheHomeVideo Год назад

Personally, if folks asked me which 1L PC to buy, I would always recommend a 35W version

@msd5808 11 месяцев назад

@@ServeTheHomeVideo I wonder if in normal usage like for web browsing and office tasks the fans stay fairly quiet? instead of just under stress tests. Also whether it can be throttled in the BIOS to mimic the t-series settings of 20% less power.

@mattiaippolito1625 Год назад

Why any brand gives us at least as an option a 10gbit network port?! 😢

@realandrewhatfield Год назад

Not sure about the music... wait, where is the silver play button?! But I am glad to see you holding up some big piece of equipment again! :) Even if it is just a power monitor... Cant wait for the 35w TDP system, should get rid of the thermal throttling, but agreed that the SSD needs some love.

@ServeTheHomeVideo Год назад

Just arrived this week! You will see it in videos soon

@denvera1g1 Год назад

I cant wait for dell/HP/lenovo units with Ryzen 7 6800u, or preferably removable 7850GE. My M75QG2 with 4750GE has this nice feature where i can connect my AR goggles to the USB-C port and get video out, the sad thing is that the anemic VegaII 8 graphics really cant drive most games after 2016 at higher than 720p medium settings. Dont get me wrong, 720p medium still looks pretty good on an OLED AR headset, but it would be nice to get the full resolution and frame rate out of these things in more modern titles and the 6800u/6800H GPUs should be more than 2x faster, and depending on power budget, up to 3x faster. Those rare units with dGPUs like the HP 805G6 would also be pretty cool to get my hands on

@cszulu2000 Год назад

Needs 10g network and dual 3.5 inch drive bays as a larger option

@bjorn2625 Год назад

Running one of these to homeserve. It’s a real ache to get Ubuntu running on them with quicksync enabled for hardware video encode/decode in Plex. It’s possible, but prepare for hard work. Also, the e1000 network adapter requires some manipulation before you’ll get working network support. I had to set the system up with a low-rent usb-Ethernet adapter to even get intel’s newest e1000 driver/module working in Ubuntu. Short version: If you’re comfortable in Linux, you can make the machine to do a lot at home. If you’re stuck in windows, there’s no easy way for it to act as plex server.