This is gonna piss fans off... 

so george lucas was pioneering some more greenscreen tech after the prequels and he wanted to create a star wars underworld tv show, he had several episodes written it was going to be epic... boba fett was going to be in it and it was going to feature a bunch of criminal syndicates. That was like tech demo... it was such a missed opportunity. And we got boba fett instead...

@@GenerationTechI’m still mad that LucasArts canceled 1313

bro don't even start

​@@GenerationTech 1313 looked so good tho! At least we got jedi fallen order/survivor

@@GenerationTech I fail to understand why they wouldn't go with such a thing when it would print money. Something like that that has Boba would have been some of the easiest money in the history of the franchise.

Sidious: Ironic.

FYI, it would be MSHA for Mine Safety Health Administration

​@@ryanm8438 lmao no wonder they blew up. They had the wrong safety organization.

@@ryanm8438 Mai-sha?!?!?

9/10 lol

Yoda doesn't go to the bathroom. He recycles all his waste with the force. Then once her century he produces a holocron.

A Japanese squat toilet, it is.

That’s why Vernestra was so apologetic about barging in on him 😂

Wiping I was

@@kentvesser9484 OMG the holocron bit made me lol

frankly I'm surprised the joke took this long to be reported 🤣

@@CLBarr it’s Star Wars anything can happen lmao. Anikan’s mom was the same level of crazy

And then they corrupted her which is why there's no guardrails in the galaxy.

​@@grandsome1😂😂

@@grandsome1 Well it does make it easier for force users to fall if there aren't any.

@@johnhodgson4216 we the audience have the benefit of knowing who Plagueis/ hego damask is. Yoda does not. He can’t read minds and has to plan accordingly.

@@tonyyao4785 also lets not forget the giant dark side landmine they built the templ on

​@GenerationTech that just propagates their incompetence

Marine

@@tonyyao4785 Are we *sure* that Yoda _can't_ read minds...?

that would be very minimalistic and fitting classic yoda

Vernestra can sense what took place in every crime scene she walks onto. This is clearly established two or three times.

Vernestra can sense what took place in every crime scene she walks onto. This is clearly established two or three times.

THIS!!!!! I assume Yoda knew about Qimir's fall to the darkside and would want to know if a former Jedi gone rogue was flitting about the galaxy.

It also makes Rancors argument against the Jedi valid. With no over sight she trained someone, and now they’ve gone rouge and is killing members of the Jedi.

@@Loki_YogiYes and she sense her old apprentice has fallen but the darkside and Sith are not the same thing, so this is kinda of a sementics argument that allows them to keep denying the Sith existence simply because there are no declared Sith threats on them.

Maybe it went over peoples heads? I mean I understand why OT people wouldn’t like the acolyte because someone like the PT. But I’m just confused especially because we’ve been talking about it on this channel for like 5 years

I'm not sure if all the criticisms are genuine. Some of the youtubers making videos criticizing this are definitely old enough to be around when the prequels came out and when the old Star Wars EU was flowering. There have been EU stories about the Jedi acting as enforcers for an increasingly corrupt Republic to stamp out popular uprisings. Let's not forget how Grievous started his career as a Jedi killer. He became a hero of his people during their war against invaders, but the Republic and the Jedi sided with the invaders, thus igniting his hatred for the Republic and the Jedi.

like charlie from it's always sunny? haha i can see yoda doing that while also hopping around the room like in his fight with dooku.

Darth Pepe Silvia

Connected like the force it is.

@@toodlepop Now I'm totally picturing Yoda with not just one murder board, but dozens of them with lines of yarn connecting them from all sides of the room haha! :P

"Threads of deception hides a truth. Force into light it will. Mmmm" Yoda decades before BBY

Cool. Another 77 original fan. I saw it at the Drive in when I was 10 Sitting in my Older brothers car. Everyone else dozed off and I was hooked for life.

@@l1a146 I watched all three of the OT Movies in a single-screen movie theater. I don't think there are many of those left in the world. The last time I was in the town I grew up in the theater had been converted into a Goodwill.

Chinese Theater, L.A., first weekend. Fifth Grade. They didn't have mass releases back then.

ya

That’s exactly what o thought the ending was implying, especially since it follows so closely after her lies on Master Sol

I’m sure they do know, they just don’t wanna acknowledge it just because they wanna shit on the acolyte

Well I think a bunch of this ties into the visions he went through with the force priestesses where he had to learn to let go of the Jedi Order because it had fallen from what it was meant to be as they failed at many different crossroads where they could’ve done what they’re intended to do at the core of their religion. Yoda was to survive so that he could train Luke the one to bring balance (or aid Vader/Anakin to come back to the light side to destroy the Sith). The only thing that it does bring question is why Yoda was so apprehensive against training Luke on Degobah. Yoda learned during those force visions that he has to be willing to let it all be destroyed even with the duel with Sidious in the last vision he had to be willing to let himself die to save Anakin so that he could turn to destroy the Jedi and eventually the Sith before coming back to the light side because of his sons love. Don’t get me wrong the identity politics that disneys been pushing is quite annoying and it would be nice if they’d stop trying to push real world identity politics and focus on trying to make a good story that actually has continuity through the story along with good character arcs so that we all can get behind the story. The best piece of product that Disney has put out was Rogue One and the series tied into it Andor because it had good character arcs that actually added to the entire Star Wars storyline in a positive way.

@@ReckSaber3664, I agree with you. It's much easier to shit on things and baselessly point things out as "lore-breaking" than accept that Yoda and the Jedi, though noble and wise on the whole, were always complex and imperfect. For those who don't know, most of the Clone Wars animated series got sign-off from Lucas himself and was produced/directed by Dave Filoni well before the acquisition of LucasArts by Disney.

Don’t say that! You’ll hurt their tiny egos and make them implode

Or, the show is bad regardless?

For real though, isn’t cortosis an extremely hard to find and probably of insane value? It would make sense for someone like Plagueis to have someone stationed around one of the very few mines of cortosis out there. Both as a Sith and a business man.

​@@zaurijunior He bought up all the land in the novel. He had a monopoly on the mineral

​@@kenknowlton3085 well, with that in mind we can already tell that The Acolyte is going to focus on Plagueis and will be to his novel what The Siege of Mandalore was to Ahsoka's novel

He knew all the time 😮

@@tufab3494 I'm sure that you are right about that.

for real

You forget ….. and former apprentice and their apprentice.

@@SpottedHares the problem with the sith is even under the rule of two they betray eachother drastically. but the secret apprentices are not true sith until their masters can officially give the title, therein are never truly darth. more like sith assassins. and that separates the difference

Amandla is a baddie though, she could turn me to the darkside any time

I don’t think Windu knew he just learned from yoda during that conversation

@@Silas_Barbour I think so because Windu in episode 1 was not in the know.

1000 years of peace doesn't mean all knowledge was burned. Trillions were killed, planets were destroyed, the wars that had occured before the peace would never be forgotten by the Jedi. Look at how much we are curious about this fake lore lol. Imagine the dark side evil boogyman being real. And could come back. With more wars and footage to learn about in a thousand lifetimes. Holocaust - Never Again 9/11 Never Forget

I always interpreted it as the Jedi having something of a "restricted section" of their library like Harry Potter. They have holocrons that only Masters can access, which details what they know about the Sith.

. . . my personal Theory: there's a mention in Legends Lore- regarding a Sith Apprentice, who came to Reject the Dark Side, embraced The Light . . . and walked away from ways of The Sith, either an Apprentice of Darth Zannah or her Successor . . . . . . I believe- Yoda, was this Sith Lord. . . . it would explain, how he knew about Darth Bane and The Rule of Two- for he learned these facts, from the Woman who defeated The Founder in Battle, or the one who went on to defeat her . . . . . . when Yoda told Luke Skywalker in "Empire"- "Once you go down The Dark Path- forever, will it dominate your Destiny- consume you, it will . . ." he was speaking, from real experience . . . . . . I believe- Venestra, would have known of this terrible secret- Yoda, may have trusted her enough to confide in her . . . Windu, in contrast- would have Slain Yoda without mercy, had he known- The Grandmaster would have told Mace, just enough- to not raise Suspicion . . . . . . irrespective- Darth Plagious, Darth Sidious . . . would have considered Grandmaster Yoda- to be their greatest Ally . . . an ex-Sith Lord, running the Jedi Order . . . heh- no wonder Sidious called Yoda, his "Little Green Friend"- I don't think, that phrase was spoken, totally in Mockery . . . but, in partial recognition- for Yoda's crucial contribution to The Sith Grand Plan . . . . . . only after Order 66- would Yoda face the consequences, of his actions Centuries before . . . for his very presence, amongst the Leadership of the Jedi- Doomed them ultimately, to total Destruction . . . . . . what a tragic Burden to bear . . . so many loved ones, slaughtered despite your own abjurement of The Dark Side . . . if true- it would put Yoda alongside Vader himself, as one of Star Wars most complicated figures . . .

it is one of the main reasons yup

thanks!

You don't know what vernestras going to say to yoda, no one other than her has a hint of it, she hasn't even seen the sith lord... you'd know if you were paying attention.

@@popcrazyfishProductions I'm paying lots of attention, I just refuse to pay for Disney+ so I'll never watch the show.

@@the_inquisitive_inquisitorwow being caught in a lie so you lie again to cover your ass.

I'll give you the TLDR then, Yoda according to this show does not know about the sith. The green alien woman who came to speak to Yoda appears to believe the villains of this show are evil Jedi who have gone Rogue. For PT fans this show might even enhance the PT. Because now Yoda appears to know some Jedi have gone evil in the past which maybe explains more of the distrust the council had towards Anakin feeling he could become an evil Jedi @@the_inquisitive_inquisitor

@@TheDCbiz What's the difference between an *evil, rogue Jedi* and a Sith? They've both got red lightsabers. Same thing, right?

I think the show has made him like 50 years older from the legends novel or something like that but it really doesnt matter, just like Master Foreheads age lol

In the novels both Plageuis and his master were extremely long lived species like 1,000 years plus. It explains how they set up everything Plageuis master was in charge of Banking clan or Something similar so funded whole Sith plan.

Same. As a fan of kotor and other legends materials

If The Acolyte made you "think" ... especially in some deeper way... then idk what to tell you.

Those people can't stand positivity. They literally come here to try and get people to be as miserable as them🤡 and then when it doesn't work they use death threats

Exactly, but anyone with a red lightsaber can be looked at as a “sith”. Qimir thinks of himself as a sith, similar to how Ventress thought of herself as Dooku’s apprentice(which in that case she was), but in the end, she was merely dooku’s tool. I think Qimir will be a similar thing to Plagueis. Once he finds Plagueis, he’ll learn he was manipulated all along and be tossed aside.

@@tonyyao4785 and Leslye Headland herself has confirmed that Qimir and Osha are not Banite Sith. That scene with Darth Plagueis in the cave, he was spying on them. He's not Qimir's master (at least not yet)

​@tonyyao4785 he didn't call himself a sith, he just said that THEY would call him one.

They would know if he as a rogue Jedi or a dark Jedi because they'd know about any rejected Jedi that could have been his mentor. A Sith trained by another Sith makes way more sense in this situation.

@@grantjackson8183 even better. the same outcome is going to end up happening. Qimir and Osha accept Plagueis’ offer, then after they do their service, get betrayed. Classic

Hear, hear!

@@DarthJarJar10 The concept is a good one. The execution of it was terrible. People are screaming WOKE this and GAY that. Could care less, if the characters are well written and acted. The writing was horrid, and the lead actress was terrible, not to mention an open racist.

So, as an "originals aged" SW fan, (whatever that means) you're completely fine with showing the Jedi as incompetent, corrupt, selfish, fearful idiots who will throw their highly respected fellow Master (who also was trusted with training younglings) under the bus... for... reasons?? Ok. Sure, buddy. You have fun with that one. 👌

@@Loki_Yogi That's what I hate about this show especially because I love the Jedi but that's not the problem most people have with this show. For a lot of people, it's not even about the bad writing and we can observe that very easily. It's really not even the shows fault for writing the Jedi that way, it's been a process that fans (especially TCW fans) have been egging on for years. From here, it's just going to get worse and worse especially if Dave Filoni is involved. The Jedi will continue to be portrayed as incompetent, corrupt and selfish because the masses demand it A lot of people will openly say the CIS is the good guy of the Clone Wars despite the atrocities they commit. They will do all sorts of mental gymnastics to justify it and usually people will call it 'the lesser of two evils.' It's been like that for years. That should tell you the direction Star Wars is going

Yeah, now if we can just get a 'Lord of the Rings' story in which Gandalf and Aragorn and Frodo are all a bunch of shady, corrupt people, and Saruman and Sauron are just misunderstood, we'll be making some progress in ruining great stories all to be "dark and edgy".

I think she carries the Sol cover up to the grave

Yoda said "we're all good, as long as you don't have any apprentices."

Yoda knew about the rule of two of darth bane (clone wars). I'm pretty sure he is aware of the existence of sith

He had to know since the presumption of the sith extinction for a millinia would pre-date Yoda's birth. So he either learned the rule of two in a vision or he's talking to the sith.

Kibh Jeen became a Dark Jedi. He went mad. I believe he learned about the Rule of 2 from Darth Rivan. When the Jedi confronted Jeen he rambled to the Jedi about the Rule of 2. They didn't believe him initially but later considered it to be true. So Yoda learned of the Rule of 2 from that story.

who?

@@ForestRaptorreally old turtle jedi who trained younglings in his old age. However his specialty was investigating crime in the Coruscant underground. He helped Ahsoka find her lightsaber, after it was stolen in the episode “Lightsaber Lost”… we also see his corpse in the Kenobi show, frozen under the Inquisitors fortress.

That puts you 44 years ahead of the majority of the fan base.

Thank you. Commented as such. Should have just gave you the thumb up. 😂

I just cant get over when they made the mistake of introducing new lightsaber colors like green, eww, only blue and red lightsabers are cannon and you cant convince me otherwise

Genius, This sums up the “fan base”

tegridy mkay

As well as the second greatest cover up. That we know of, at least.

And that’s why the Force had to create Anakin to slaughter them, they’re too corrupt and have moved away from the force and into politics

Why is that interesting? People act like it's so stroke of creative genius to take a good character and make him not-so-good.

@@Joel-wx7zk That seems like overkill, like executing people for jaywalking. Jedi kept the peace for a thousand years, but they got too involved in politics. I guess they all need to die. Okay, that makes sense. Sorry, but this is a twisting of 'Star Wars', a desperation to be "dark and edgy" because it's assumed that that makes it more artistic or profound or whatever. I guess we should rewrite 'The Lord of the Rings' and turn Gandalf into a shady figure, same with Aragorn. Make Saruman and Sauron sympathetic people who were just misunderstood.

​@@user-kz5gw7xe4oExactly. This show is weird, basically every creative idea Lucas had, these writers tried to duplicate and make it better. "Lucas had one chosen one?? That's fine we'll make TWO." This show is pure trash

If I was that old like Yoda, I would probably not even care about life of other people, they would be just like mosquitos for me. 😀

Because at that point, it was too late to do something about it, and the Jedi didn't have any other options. This situation is the exact opposite. That's why it makes no sense😂

Doesn't the discovery also directly tie into the arc where Yoda learns about transcendence from the Priestesses, where they show him the future of what will become of the order? I've heard it explained that those two arcs are tied so closely together that Yoda's arc may have happened first, and that he already knew of the impending Order 66, and had to let it play out. For multiple decades leading up to 66, jedi youth had slowly shifted into thought processes and ideologies that strayed form the ways that Yoda and other older masters had been taught and teaching, and that was exacerbated by the war as well. Yoda had learned of what was to come before the downfall, and was told by the Priestesses not to mention it, if I recall correctly? Or, he made the decision not to tell them because it was too late, etc. There's a lot more open theory on that, but at least Yoda's take on your issue is much more explainable than the information from this show being sat on for about 85 years and then not being remembered in TPM.

Exactly!

They were during the HR a lot more loose so it fits

Why not just Qimir? Have you seen Alan's guns?

I want to see receipts

I was kind of thinking this...like Dr. Strange and the one way to win. Or well I guess he would be Tony?

Correct Iraq was the step too far.

They were there for nuuqs in Iraq...

It just comes with the territory it’s usually not serious, some people are a bit unhinged and on the internet too much

He tried to kill Darth Sidious and failed. What's complicated about it?

When u are the wisest of the wise, ignorance is a huge failure.

He failed because he did know, or at least had a good idea that the sith may still be out there and he made the wrong decision by waiting until he couldn’t hide it anymore when maul popped up.

He failed because he SHOULD have known..he was in charge and never saw it comiq.. That's a huge failure on his part...​@@chrishealton3830

Well it’s not like he knew when it would happen or if it was even destined to happen

He so a possible fall of the Jedi, not how and if would come to be. Even Windu sensed a plot to end the Jedi.

Imagine killing yourself because you wanted to go home early

Amazing writing, right?

@@conquerurfear8113 That was literally a bit in South Park, it's in the Coon & Friends trilogy of episodes.

I mean being responsible for the death of 50+ people because you didn't want to keep it in your pants... it's pretty bad when you have conscious.

@@ForestRaptor Those witches committed suicide. Guilt free

In that imo terrible clone wars show, didn't Yoda also find out about order 66 prior to it happening or at least the idea of order 66 being implemented?

@@TheDCbiz if I remember correctly, I think that was all the same situation. I want to make sure I have it all correct so I'll watch it again but, I think he found out about the chips or that something was wrong with the clones. I don't think he knew about Order 66 specifically. I'll let you know in a bit though.

@@taylormadealpha thx I appreciate it. I don't like that show

Se must crticise beforehand as to prevent it.

He failed to kill Darth Sidious. That is true.

@@user-kz5gw7xe4o Exactly. Not sure why are some pushing anything beside that. He meant he didn't beat Sidious, nothing else.

Aren't retcons and headcan and fun?

Yes... because training someone to be a Jedi is a total dick move. 🤣🤣🤣 How retarded..

This is another level os screw up and retcon, of the likes of taking all the credibility of a deaths. If that happens we can't believe in anything that we se on screen beacause writers will always come with loose interpretations of scenes, which is not clever, it just makes your universe lose weight and fans desengage. This clearly is not what Lucas meant with those sentences and don't be cinical to say otherwise, this is just cheap and disrespectful.

Every time you hear "we investigated ourselves and found no wrongdoing" _that's_ Internal Affairs. They're THE MOST corrupt!

Jesus has NOTHING to do with Star Wars.