This Is How Tekken 7 "Ruined" Dragunov | Demonstration 

My first introduction to Dragunov was Tekken 6, and his pale-ass skin, creepy grunts and overall demeanor made me think he was a vampire for a long, long time. The stage I always fought him in in Arcade Mode was the cemetery, which didn't help.

that movement when you realize T7 doesn't have footprints in snow

1:38“ I’m making this look very easy “ *drops it right after* Classic mainman :D

I actually agree with this video, used to play drag in tag2 with kaz as secondary. I find lowering a characters execution makes it feel less rewarding especially when you have already put the time to learn the hard stuff in the past, it's a very deflating feeling. Combine that with over buffing his key moves and what you have is a character that is now easy and bland. Sorta like a kazumi....

In T6 he was literally my main character, after Lars. I even remember I beat my friends with him, in a little tourney we did (nothing special). I start use him again after 8 years, and his still fun to use.

A small elaboration: You can iWS4 from CH WR2 or db2,1,2 to juggle in T7 as well, and the combos work pretty similiarly to TAG2, but for whatever reason you get less damage that way in T7 (as opposed to picking up with d2). Would have been cool if you still had the option to do the easier pickups for the combos for smaller damage, but to get max damage you needed to do the more technical stuff in T7. Edit: What I said applies to CH WR2 but db 2,1,2 still requires a pretty hard iWS4 pickup to get max damage out of it.

Maining Dragunov in Tag 2 made me feel like a God, not so much in T7. I still play him now and again, but he's no longer my main, had more fun with him in Tag 2 and even T6.

Real Drag players always go for the F3 cancels

Gets Trolled by a Dragunov player, makes a video about him straight after. Very cool Mainman very cool

As a Dragonuv main, I appreciate you getting this information out to the Tekken community. TMM you the man. Keep up the great work.

This video shows that there’s no pleasing Tekken fans. Fans: The game is too hard and inaccessible to new players. NAMCO: Here, just reduced the execution barrier. Pros: Kamsamnida! Arigato! Thanks bruh! He’s top tier now! Everyone else: he’s ruined. He’s no longer interesting. NAMCO:😒

I hope that by TMM switching between games that everyone can realise that TTT2 wasn’t a bad looking game by any means. T7 simply looks like TTT2 with more shiny and watery character models. We desperately need a new tekken game that actually takes advantage of modern day graphics. Remember people. T7 despite releasing on console in 2017, is really a 2014 game (location tests)

Good to see you helping the community iron some things out. Putting people before your shirt. True hero

I used to sub Dragunov during Tag 2, with Feng being my main. Now Draunov is my main and Feng is my sub.

They didn't remove the iWS4 from ch iWR2 you can still do it. JDCR was doing that a lot when Dragunov was powerful in T7. I don't know if it did more damage but he did it anyway. Does he still have combos that require you do the iWS4? Because he's gotten some pretty easy follow ups to his starters.

When people tell me that Dragunov is their main in Tekken 7, 9 times out of 10 this is their first Tekken game.

Damn, didn’t know Dragunov was a execution heavy character since I started playing from tekken 7. So I went over to a arcade that still has ttt2 cabinets and I tried him... while the ff2 is ridiculous, the instant ws4 doesn’t feel that hard to execute

I get what you're sayin, but the staple filler and screw in season 2 is f4,4,3 f1 f3df cdc 4,4 S! so from that perspective it is quite similar to his tag2 bound. This is a lot of hits so it makes his best ender f3df cdc 4,1 quite difficult. His optimal combos are still quite technical.

Does it really matter how good the combo damage on snake edge is when the only good time to use it is as a high crush and you get the CH throw instead of a launch?

Yeah, he had several execution barriers that made him satisfying to play in T6 and TTT2. In T7 he became mundane and brain dead. What a travesty. And it’s all thanks to appealing to the casuals, like they couldn’t just give them easy mode characters alone, they had to mess with established characters as well. Smh.

TMM if you want to do that CD its d,df just like julias. you only "hold" DF briefly if you want to go further. notation for the ws+4 is d,d/f,n,4. Also you can B! from d/b+3 but requires a cc iws 4 but its very inconsistent.

Dragunov was my main in Tag 2 he was really fun to play , they buffed him alot in 7 but also got really boring , all his tricky stuff is gone . I completely lost all the interest on the character , wich is pretty sad cause i invested alot of time on him . Moved to Miguel and never looked back .

I remember bringing my Tekken 7 to the community centre and letting random’s play against me. This one guy always picked Dragunov And he knew nothing about frames are Fighting games in general not a single combo neither but he knew that running 2 was plus as fuck so he kept spamming the shit out of it. it’s crazy even casuals know about it

I'm just not getting it, you always complaint about the high learning curve and high execution of tekken and now you think they ruined dragunov because they made him easier. I agree that they ruined him but it sounds weird for me that you also think that they ruined him by making him simpler while all you say is ''make tekken more easy''.

making his combos consistent and doesn't 'ruin' him. You still need to do those f3 cancels to max him out.

Didn't MainMan say Tekken 7 was a complicated game, by saying how Korean backdash was difficult for beginners. Maybe making dragonov more easy to play was Bandai Namco's decision to make the game beginner friendly. lol MainMan contradicting himself.

I spent weeks practicing his combos in tag 2 and when tekken 7 came out and I saw how easy he is I immediately lost interest and dropped him

liking this video only because you did those transition between tag 2 and t7 making quite educational video and interesting .

You forgot about: WR2 on block was only +4~+6 in Tag 2, in T7 it is +5~+7. b1+2 on block was only +3~+4 in Tag 2, in T7 it is +6~+7.

You can do f+1 after crouch cancel from Dragunov's snake edge to get a full bound combo, but the window for it is incredibly small and almost impossible to do online unless you're playing against someone with a great connection.

Tekken 7 is my first tekken game and I absolutely love it, but after watching a bunch of Main Man's videos on older titles, I wish T7 had as much attention to detail as they did (maps, character animations, etc)

2:39 Did they actually remove it? I understand there's just better options now, but you technically still could do the crouch dash into WS4 if you really wanted, right?

They removed Drag 1+2,4 and gave him a fucking power crush. I HATE THAT SHIT SO MUCH.

It's really a shame that there was so many dragunov players back then and upon T7, it's like sighting mewtwo if he ever comes and face you. He has been downgraded HARD. No fun tricky games. Scaled hard to do combos down, so isn't proficient to do it anymore and so on. I dropped Dragunov and went to Steve. I do go back to Dragunov at times for nostalgia.

Now do Lars TTT2 vs Lars t7

As a Russian I’d like to admit a pretty good pronunciation of word “spetsnaz”

Bruh the Tag2 stage is way more beautiful

Season 3 appears* TTT2 Dragunov: "Haaa ssshhhhit"

For the DB 3 you can get a combo after it. You have to do a SSC into instant qcf ws4. You can see Nobi do this a few times in some old ttt2 videos

drag now has less rewarding but easy combos = he is ruined idk man, i still use the hard stuff, and when you play him i dont see you doing iws or f3 cancels...

You know, it's really not that hard or complicated(except for ff2 bound), now he's just over hyping dragunov's difficulty but he was more technical than t7 dragunov. It's just that the screw system favours him more than the bound system.

Here’s the thing people. Execution is muscle memory. And T7 is geared towards offense, like angry ungga bungga offense. And who’s one of the better ungga bungga guys? Dragunov. He has so much Super moves as mainman calls them and simplifies the gameplan which is the difficult part. Mishimas have the same burden and gift. Which is why Kazuya somehow becomes an easy character and a hard character at the same time. Mostly hard but when you’re rolling you’re hard to stop. At short sets, with a few lucky 50/50s you win. Medium length sets is where Mishimas struggle the most and they excel so hard with long sets, because hopefully by then you might have downloaded your opponent’s patterns

i doesn't even play tekken but i keep seeing videos of this guy and i love them

I've been wondering what made Drag turn into a ghost town in season 2. Out of the 100s of hours online and at tournaments I've played, I've only encountered one Drag, which is a shame since he's been one of my favorites since DR.

ive never used dragunov in prior games other than just messing around and practicing instant WR moves, but dude when i was just messing around in T7 against fairly decent players that i've known for a while and played against in my room etc, i couldn't believe how far i was able to go with just using some of key moves and just good movement, it's pretty ridiculous how a non-dragunov main can be fairly even and even win against players that i've considered pretty good (im a tekken god rank)

I've only played Tekken 7 and I'm a hardcore Dragunov main and love playing him, but this seems so much cooler...

Ah yes the old Dragunov staple. Reminds me of King’s swag combo

In TTT2 he looks much like in T6, am I right? It feels like a lot of transitions/combos were simplified in T7 for a lot of characters, not only Dragunov. Which is understandable.

I was actually wondering about the differences the other day

In both T6 and TT2, Dragonov could do crouch cancel - instant wr4 to get a full combo off of his snake edge

Lmaooooo you said Hollywood effect. I was laughing for at least 5 minutes straight

The same people complaining that dragunov is ruined because he's more consistent are the same people complaining that they used to lose/drop combos because dragunov is such a hard character. It's some elitist bullshit defence mechanism they need to fall back on, their fragile ego can't take it. Funny how people drop a character because of these changes for tekken 7, surely if you actually liked the character you'd still be playing as them.

"I'm making this look very easy" he says, while doing something that is (objectively) extremely easy. That pick up has NEVER been considered technical. Not to mention that CH WR2 launching them in that way back in TTT2 was actually a good thing overall since it improved its wall carry. Having to use f,f2 as a bound was pretty annoying though, I'll give you that.

Never really understood the allure of a character that's hard to use. The game itself is already hard enough, so the idea of people gravitating towards a character because of the execution it demands kind of eludes me.

That iWS4 after db212 is so fucking hard seriously

Well, considering I've never liked Dragunov, I never really took the time to learn him too much, but him being the most popular new character since T5 has definitely caught my attention, and now I understand why, his execution was very difficult, and Tekken players usually really appreciate characters who are difficult to use, yet are really effective in high level, hence, Kazuya, Bryan, King...etc. However, seeing how easy he is now in T7, I might have an easier time, trying to legitimately learn how to play Dragunov.

Been a Tekken 6 player and Drag main for a while now (since I don't have T7 yet) I tried T7 and T7 Dragunov really feels different than hist T6 counterpart.

I don’t get how this comparison is valid when the two games he’s using to compare both have different combo systems and gameplay systems (tag vs solo). That’s like complaining about how they changed the play styles of every T7 character who returned from Tag 2.

How tf did you get that uf4 so many times at the end there?

I don't think making a character easier to play but still rewarding you for doing hard stuff is a bad thing overall. That way, more people can play the character and if they really want to improve with it they'll have to learn the harder combos

did you run tag 2 on pc? with what?

I recall having heard it’s actually being possible comboing of db3 in TTT2. By doing cc iws4. Not sure tho

I been using Dragunov since t5 and I'll never drop him as my main. I hated the ch wr2 back then because it's so inconsistent to combo but I miss the ff2 bound because that makes him difficult like King's ff1 in T7.

lots of execution for drag? man, please. the character was a spamming, scrub friendly annoyance. now tekken 7 is out, most drag players, like bob and lars mains disappeared. only the genuine ones stuck with their nerfed characters.

I remember using Drag for the 1st time in Tekken 7. And when I played a match I tried to crouch cancel after the sweep 😑

You actually get a jab on SSR after WS+4 from his snake edge.

Nobody is mentioning how you could actually pick up CH WR2 by dashing into d2

easier execution? well ....for the sake of online competition i guess? i remember when in tekken 5 when you have to VERY SKILLFULLY use 5 - 6 jabs just to get your opponents to the wall we call it "jabble" instead of juggle for laughs

are you using pc on ttt2?

Does Bandai Namco watch ur videos?

Dragunov was fun in tag2, in t7 he is one of those characters that get boring fast and nearly no technical challenge..

the moment you realize TTT2 looks better than T7 in every way

make same with law? i cant do back flip into while standing uppercut in tekken 7 :( but i could before

How about Paul? :(

Whoa! It's like watching a Michael Bay film! 🥳

make a video about feng wei please

This makes me hate Tekken with a passion, I can’t play one character and people make a big deal that he is easy, smh

I'm a pretty, easy beast too! Maybe I should try Dragu!

Do you see how making a character pointlessly complicated makes him really fun and easy to use online?

Yo main man have you gone Rusty and didn't build another combo video?

@mainman can you talk about how lars doesn’t work for tekken 7

I still play drag

Well to be honest, namco made tekken 7 easier compared to previous ones so more players come in just like capcom did with Street fighter 5 but not on the same level because STFV is super easy compared to previous games.

You can get a full combo off Dragunov db3 in Tag 2 by doing crouch cancel iws4. Not practical but cool to know

1. Db 212 is not reliable at all in T7 either. 2. You still need to dash after a wr2 ch to get a d2 or ws4 combo lots of times in t7. 3. Dragunov was already nerfed heavily which is why his pickrate is garbage compared to his former self. Yeah JDCR loves him but does he ever pick him in tournaments anymore? Simply no. Nobi barely uses him. Noroma barely uses him. There hasn't been any significant placings in tournaments where dragunov was the main character since the nerf. Character is dead. Much better idea to pick up OP characters like Jin, Steve, Geese, Kazumi etc. BTW kazumi has the best wr2 in the game dragunovs sucks.

Wonder if we’ll get some more comparison videos...🤔

ah yes my main boye, i indeed had a hard time getting good with him in TTT2 (and still do) and earlier, but ngl i never used that chance to try him in T7 because i just hate this game lol

He was so interesting I mained him in t6 but not in t7

I get the change to fff2 but the no crouch cancel on the sweep is dumb..

I would gladly trade Dragunov's Power Crush for his Bloodhound Combo in TTT2.

How can I get tekken tag tournament on my pc? It’s not on steam

I fail to see how this ruins the character

Should compate t6 and t7 bears

Ironically Tag 2 ruined Dragunov for me. I used to play him in T6.

Wasn't dragunov also scrubby in tekken revolution

how are u playing tag 2 on pc?

How's making him less execution heavy ruining him? He's not that easy lol

I used to play with him on Tag 2 I dropped him on 7 and just stuck with jin. My team was Drag and Jin

i miss the old draggy

use to love playing draganov, now he's just a drag to play