This is OVERKILL - ROG Ally + RTX 4090 XG Mobile Review 

Gaming on the go in 2024 gonna be crazy 🎉

except it isn't, you're clearly limited by your CPU

Cringe

Insert bass drop from Rise of Skywalker

How is it in comparison to 4090 gaming laptop?

And it's just a 4080 with a performance of a 4070ti

@@avrhamcom not even a 4070ti

its a trash Gpu more not over price shit XD

Twelve years ago, people like you were probably like: "Still insane that this portable PlayStation Vita costs more than a PS3."

@@OutlawMantis -🤓

That would kill their real objective, which is to sell you their overpriced proprietary crap.

That would ruin their business model.

Imagine if they just went with some sort of double thunderbolt/usb-C solution instead of one usb-C + some weird janky iPhone 4 looking connection. And if not, is it too much to ask for them to make the onboard gpu connected to the built in screen and the e-gpu connected to an external monitor as an standard option or something? Kinda expected that feature on my ROG Z13…

The hope is in a few years the Steam Deck 2 will have thunderbolt eGPU support.

that is exactly why they avoid putting usb4 on ally, to sell their expensive shit

Damn I didn't know you were a gamer

It's KarlRock lol

There are other xg mobile gpu's!

@@T90MT The videos I know him from were about games and consoles lol

You can with docks. Alot of steam deck docks are compatible.

Expensive ... and requires a huge external enclosure, which to me entirely disqualifies it from the "handheld" category. For high-performance portability -- there have been high-end laptops for years.

This is meant for hardcore gamers who want access to the best hardware money can afford paired with a handheld device. This setup works best with an external monitor setup + keyboard/mouse or controller. None of us need a Lambo but some of us are going to get it and drive the shit out of it anyway.

its not gonna last long just make sff its a better option its capped to 330 watts and theres no guarantee how long is the xgmobile life span with small factor it might not be worth it in the long run

@@Chris-ih4hj SFF is pretty great...they just dropped a 4060 Ti that fits in a Velka 3, that's better performance than almost any mobile GPU.

​@@cris1735if it was made for hardcore gamers it would've had touchpads. As of now it's just a toy for the richer kids

How is that egpu when it comes to running games at 4k or 1080p, can you hold 60? I don't have a pc because I don't have room for a desktop setup and I've been looking at the ally for a minute. I want to buy both ally and 6850m so that I can take it to people's house.

@@iiishception Lookup 6700XT benchmarks. the 6850M XT AFAIK is just a 6700XT

I order the XG 6850 for my X13 laptop and to use with my Ally ,anything I need to know or your opinion about it?

it should be fairly easy, if someone has some good soldering skills, to create an XG to PCIE port adapter. It is only a connection of wires, there is nothing special about it, that is what ROG is doing in the first place anyway... just connecting the wires from PCIE to their proprietary contacts on the adapter.

Yeah, I think ASUS made a huge mistake. Instead of trying to sell their £2000 eGPU that has a custom port. It would've been better to sell a custom £150 dock, which allows you to use any GPU and you just slot the ROG Ally into like a Nintendo Switch.

A decade or 2*

@@BluesFanUK_ lol 2 decades ago the original xbox was the most powerful console. This won't even be a thought.

@@ultracellez1989 20*

@@ultracellez1989 bold of you to assume that nvidia won't keep the price of the 4090 ridiculously high even when the 6090 is released

​@@ultracellez1989 Huh?

That's one of the things that I don't like about the Switch.

@@TakiUdon it would be more justifiable if the dock contained booster hardware of some sort, or if the switch would run at full core/clock when plugged into a charger, but without one or the other it really is less likable :/ I've picked up a used switch lite until they do a proper revamp.

Wow. I didn't realize the throttling in the Switch was mainly related to the battery.

@@gabrielrullan7451 the dock lacks any kind of active cooling which means the switch is capable of fully cooling itself at peak performance, but the battery cannot sustain that without risking brownouts. As it is the battery life is quite poor and the cells die faster and faster as time goes on, hopefully they release a Deck-style model that's thick enough for a legitimately useful battery but we will see. As it stands now, all switches (including the Lite) can fit in a dock to charge, so a real "Pro" model with a proper battery would likely be too thick and thus not backwards compatible with existing docks.

@@StormBurnX Nintendo really shoot themselves in the foot with that dock design. I remembered seeing it back in 2017 and my first thought was, why?

i feel like for these product its kind of like the old PSP days. Just long enough life so when they dont hold a reasonable charge anymore 3rd party extended replacements will be available. lol

This is me exactly. I travel a lot, and that’s why I love the Ally. But I don’t bring the XG Mobile with me when I travel, it just serves as my dock for when I am home, so I can play on a bigger screen.

​@OddEyeUrkle with that amount of money why not just buy a separate home pc?

@@OddEyeUrkle even more, for that amount of money, why not just buy a gaming laptop?? All in one system without having to lug around your ally and the egpu.

horrible setup

Better yet, have the GPU communicate with the device via a WiFi direct 802.11ac chip that plugs directly into the top of the device, then you can just plug the GPU in the wall and enjoy games on the comfort of your couch without the dreaded wire

Lol

the amd xg mobile is for around 800 though

Core Keeper

Exactly just buy one of the razer egpus cases and insert it 😂

If only the 4090 egpu was cheaper than the actual 4090 lol

@@kiri3639 That’s because it is an actual 4090, it just costs more because it has a usb enclosure around it

No, but I can check if you ask on Discord.

That should only be in reference to the iGPU, but this guy has 16GB of dedicated RAM that should not be blown through for that game, so it's strange.

Looks like it's Core Keeper

@@SterAlux i think that's what it is, i saw it when he jumped into armoury crate. I added it to my steam wishlist already lol

You're getting 4060 performance with dlss just with extra vram 🤡🤡

@@Weneedaplague it’s a 4070 performance, stop low balling

No lol

It is a pc technically

That’s what I’ve been saying lmao

Agreed , just buy a laptop and this point

Its called an egpu enclosure

Play on pc then u baboon

Lucky!!!

How is this even legal

@@Avioto Laptop gpus are less powerful compared to their desktop counterparts. They were saying that the 4090 mobile is using desktop 4080 hardware.

​@@Avioto because I'm pretty sure they have the names to target certain power profiles, it doesn't and never will match a desktop GPU. The RAM configuration is probably not because it's a 4080, but because laptops require a small bus width. It's not some elaborate scheme...

No shit, nobody expects it to be as powerful as a desktop GPU. It's a small laptop GPU that doesn't need heaps of power.

Performance-wise, it's closer to a 4070 (non-ti).

The mobile version of a RTX 4090 is not as powerful as the desktop variant, not even close. matter of fact, it is on par with a desktop rtx 4060.

True, it would have a cheaper cost, but it consumes far more power, will be far noisier and won't be easy to transport.

@Mantis: Mega Outlaw Star Fan GPD has a lower cost AMD based eGPU coming out that will give a high-end gaming performance, at a fraction of the cost, that can be used with any system that has USB 4, Thunderbolt 3/4 or Oculink.

As an owner of both units I agree, the cable length is a bit bad. However on some setups, even if you dock the device, it will still charge the unit even if you dont utlise the gpu which means you have x2 charging cords, so you can leave the other one at home or even at work/in the car. So you can have a x2 setup, one at home, one in the office/car/friends. The price is admittedly high, but it gives you a mobile gpu pc/gaming console kit. its the ultimate portable setup whether it be a laptop or tablet or the ally plugged into it. I think when people see the actual kit together it opens up a lot of options. Yes there are cheaper options such as a pure gaming laptop or just pure work laptop, but the units are light enough to be portable in both modes. Or you can just grab the Ally for light gaming on the go, or the tablet for some work, or even the laptop for a little bit of both. This is why I like the kit. It also extends the life of the laptop/tablet/Ally. The gaming decks are already struggling with modern games, one of the reasons I prefer the Ally over the Steam Deck. You have the best of both worlds. Only issue is the short cable it drives me nuts, I hope someone makes a cable extender kit.

you know the cable length affects performance yeah?

@jamesick I did wonder if their was a reason for the length. I use a wireless keyboard mouse option and/or xbox controller so it not really an issue when docked. More the undocking method used. Although I have seen people use pci express cable adaptors on ad hoc gpu setups with external psu. Does the length really affect performance that much?

It's overkill cause of the CPU bottlenecking that's why.

For sure

Laptop 🤮

It's better than ally and egpu for sure​@@GPTLeader

​@@GPTLeaderur family 🤢🤮

WHY SHOULD I GET IT WHILE I CAN BUY SOMETHING THAT LOOKS MORE BETTER AND PERFORMS GOOD

It happens very often :[

@@TakiUdon wow... Thanks for all your hardwork😉

I'm playing Steam games, but you can buy s subscription service to something like Xbox game cloud if you don't want to rebuy games.

I had same thoughts but I'm also on the road traveling year round. Always wanted a pc but it never made sense. Also tired of lugging my ps5 around. It might not make sense to a lot of people but for me this is perfect

115W issues? I should be on 317/9.

@@TakiUdon no sorry, performance issues without eGPU. Alright thanks!

I had the same issue (I have an Ally + 6850). You can turn off the lights for the RGB in the Armory Crate settings. Unfortunately, there is no way to turn of the red lights on the XG Mobile, but I find that much less distracting.