This is the best focal length

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As unquestioned authorities on all photographic and video topics, Chris and Jordan put their boundless knowledge to work determining what is objectively the best focal length. In the tradition of Siskel and Ebert, things got heated.
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0:00 - Intro
0:48 - The best focal length is…
2:27 - Correction 1
5:27 - The worst focal length is…
5:56 - Correction 2
7:05 - The second best focal length is…
7:13 - Correction 3
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@Simon74 Год назад

Thank you for finally settling this debate with FACTS and LOGIC once and for all.

@mariavanschie7946 Год назад

Amen, because it is so true, photo's from a 35mm make me dizzy because of the warping and distortion. 50 is acceptable. 85 is perfect.

@curtisbme Год назад

I think Jordan needs an award for how patient he is with Chris always being wrong.

@albert_gyorgy Год назад

I think Chris needs an award for how patient he is with Jordan always being wrong.

@niccollsvideo Год назад

@@albert_gyorgy You're my new favorite person for the day! Thank you!

@albert_gyorgy Год назад

@@niccollsvideo Achievement unlocked. Thank you!

@shaanbilla3944 Год назад

I think both of you are right, These two lenses, 35 and 85 could do almost all jobs🙂

@curtisbme Год назад

@@shaanbilla3944 Of course but we aren't having rational discussion, we are choosing a side.. ;)

@hiteshwarmehla2267 Год назад

I am loving the fact that they shot Jordan side at 35mm focal length and Chris side at 85mm. Then combined them together. What a great easter egg! ❤️❤️

@jonathanmvisser Год назад

Wedding shooter?

@hiteshwarmehla2267 Год назад

@@jonathanmvisser I am actually an amateur. I do filming/photography for my own fun.

@pdlagasse Год назад

I totally missed that … thanks for the excuse to go watch it again!

@rrosomasa Год назад

how can you tell? I'm genuinely curious, i couldn't tell any difference

@jesbek Год назад

@@rrosomasa shallower DOF in Chris 's ISO

@joshyang886 Год назад

Is it just me or it really gets more and more personal by the minute… 😂 I love this

@Tarets Год назад

What do you mean? That was a logical discussion based solely on FACTS!

@cinematicjohn 7 месяцев назад

@@Tarets Something to be written on stones...😘

@_o__o_ Год назад

DP is my favourite

@socas_nic Год назад

👀

@vexphoto Год назад

I’m more of a POV type of dude. 😮

@CarletonTorpin Год назад

Came for these comments.

@niccollsvideo Год назад

I'd review your DP anyday!

@BenjaminSandness Год назад

I can’t even remember DP Review’s videos before they imported the current much loved Canadian flavouring

@alhOOO2O Год назад

I watched the first 2:26 of this video and can safely say I agree with *everything* you said and you are indeed right the 85mm is the perfect lens, I don’t feel I need to watch any further into the video as I’m certain I’m right

@mariavanschie7946 Год назад

Facts. Every focal length under 50mm is worthless, it distorts the subject to the point of unrecognizability, especially when shooting people or basically anything with a form or surface. 50mm is alright, 85mm is perfect.

@jennifercall9014 Год назад

😂

@princesanghera Год назад

This was so entertaining to watch! You guys are killing it 😂

@pfirsichdrop Год назад

I think 8mm is objectively the best focal length. You can get great landscape shots, but it's also great for portraits and especially wildlife and sports shooting. You just have to get a little closer which should not be a problem with wild animals at all

@j_a_lee Год назад

Exactly. And you can always crop to get other, (paradoxically) lesser focal lengths.

@ANSWERTHECALLOFJESUSCHRIST Год назад

That made me laugh! 😄

@CarlBergsdorf Год назад

I always use a 8mm then just crop in post the frame I want and do some AI upscaling 😄

@j_a_lee Год назад

@@CarlBergsdorf For astrophotography I put my fish-eye photo into Google picture search then type the text from the top result into Dall-E 2 to simulate a telescope that would otherwise be outside my budget.

@SingularityEngine Год назад

Actually the 8mm is a hindrance in closeup shots because you will be eaten by lions and stabbed by your street photography subjects. No, 400mm is the best focal length, and I will not be told otherwise. Closeups without intruding? Check. Beautiful bokeh? Check. Birds? Check. Oh, wanna do a wider shot? Just stand further back, idiot.

@torogoz2001 Год назад

This whole discussion just proves that a 24-105mm zoom is the most useful, sensible lens to have.

@henryl716 Год назад

If you refer to sony 24-105 f4 . Optical performance are below average especially long end. I think It’s not my copy’s problem . it’s the design . there’s no free lunch to get such wide zoom. Just want to put it here as a buyer beware. I was encouraged by good reviews all over the Internet.

@wentan8978 5 месяцев назад

@@henryl716the canon 24-105 F4L is bloody amazing though

@edwardtye4119 2 месяца назад

@@wentan8978 I have this lens as my only one. It covers pretty much everything I need it to, and is sharp from f/4 to f/8, which is where I like to use it anyway.

@TeraAFK 2 месяца назад

And clearly an adjustable crescent wrench is the best wrench. Who needs a set when you can use one for everything?

@bradbennett1420 Год назад

This script and edit are amazing guys. Great performances too. But when ‘35mm is the worst focal length’ popped up I legit laughed 😂

@mariavanschie7946 Год назад

Me too, because it is so true, photo's from a 35mm make me dizzy because of the warping and distortion.

@tombonifas4501 Год назад

Brilliant! Simply brilliant! Thanks guys for brightening my foggy, dreary, cold March, day. I love the forgiving sort of, "I appreciate your opinion but, it's absolute rubbish" approach AND to completely omit the, "I appreciate your opinion....", portion is pure, video genius. My favorite lens?........ the one without all the dog hair stuck to it at the time.

@simoncharacter01 Год назад

absolutely 😂

@ghislaincote4882 Год назад

"This applies to painters as well" 🤣🤣🤣 Very well written. Thanks guys.

@petermcginty3636 Год назад

Chris, I am batting on your team! I bought an OM-5 and I am currently building my lens kit. I bought an Olympus 45mm f1.2 Pro - WOW. An incredible lens, beautiful images and VERY versatile. I also bought the 25mm f1.2 Pro. Magnificent! The near perfect lens for so many occasions. I am planning on getting the Oly 75mm f1.8 and know exactly how I will use that lens. Then, my sister said, "Hey, if you are blowing all your money, you should get the 17mm f1.2 Pro". My immediate thought was, "When would I use it?" You guys are a riot! Do not ever change! Thank you.

@DanielLasia01 13 дней назад

I feel a 17mm focal length can only do selfies and interiors; by far, that wasn't so much needed.

@MandEmma Год назад

Love it every time you guys are together. It is fun to watch and I found myself smiling while watching

@xkben90 Год назад

I like to use my 8mm lens on my full frame for squirrel photography. I like the challenge it brings. 🤓

@PhillyNichols Год назад

35 and 85 is a perfect combo as long as one of them can do macro. But I would definitely choose 35 if I could only have one.

@kevenspargo6829 Год назад

Solid perspectives, and you guys have perfect comedic timing. Do you rehearse much to pull off videos like this so flawlessly?

@DanielHodotcom Год назад

I’ve watched so many of your videos and this is the funniest ever! You guys are absolutely brilliant!! Amazing rapport!!!

@justinklemish7894 4 месяца назад

this was such an enjoyable 8 and a half minutes of chaotic goofery. pure gold lol

@DavidDarrow Год назад

I would happily welcome more content like this. Productive? No. Entertaining? You betchya!

@pdlagasse Год назад

If they ever relaunch “The Odd Couple,” it needs to star you guys. This is one of my all-time favorite review videos ever!

@dawidmajewski3103 Год назад

Guys, you nailed my favourite ones! For majority of the shoots i use 2 camera setup with 35mm and 85mm attached to the cameras. I rarely need to change lens for anything else.

@arfmf Год назад

10% like/views ratio. That's outstanding for youtube standards. This video deserves waaaay more likes than that.

@3BMEP Год назад

LOVE you guys!

@thatjordandrake Год назад

Back atcha Hugh!

@MrTmiket0007 Год назад

You guys are the absolute best, from now on I will only use a 35mm lens and a 85mm lens 😂Keep up with the awesome content 👍🤗

@wwz3320 Год назад

great episode as always!

@warrenwilson7836 Год назад

This might be the best RU-vid photo review ever posted - humorous satire with the most straight-faced delivery. Thank you for the perspective.

@qvarfoto Год назад

This was even better than the annual best/worst of each year videos! Amazing stuff. And yes, I agree with you...........

@d-godfather Год назад

I remember more than a decade ago, digitalrev was considered king of camera reviews and these two even jested that they're likely to be queen of camera reviews... Fast forward today, these two have absolutely reached the top when it comes to camera reviews... All Hail the New Kings of Photo/Video reviews 👑👑👑😁😂

@Hangiinjohnny Год назад

Kai and lok are together again in England and very much has the same vibe

@d-godfather Год назад

@@Hangiinjohnny yes, I've been following them since they put up their own channels.

@SolidBrixStudios Год назад

I agree with Chris, 85, 50, and 28 are some of the best. Even tho I shoot most of my videos at 35mm 😂🤣

@tedkloske9273 Год назад

This video is great! Thank you for all your insight, and for finally solving this age old issue! I now know the best focal length and it was so simple!

@thequarantinecatholic 11 месяцев назад

This is informative and fun to watch!! Thank you!!

@manaphyex3964 Год назад

If there is a sharp lens that is 35 - 85mm f1.2 , there would be no more arguments like this.

@the_wiki9408 Год назад

Nobody would want to carry it.

@shang-hsienyang1284 Год назад

I'd settle for a 35-85mm f/2.0. And after seeing the Tamron 35-150mm f/2-2.8, I really think it could be achieved.

@ZXH88 Год назад

I agree with Chris, 85mm is a highly underrated focal length and 35 is just a mediocre compromise. A 28 and 50 just do everything better than a 35. And if I really have to bring just one lens I would choose the 50.

@mispevill3928 Год назад

All I can say is, I love you guys! And will always will even in you PP channel😊😃. I learned a lot from you even in your blogs.❤

@rickfarber4243 Год назад

Thanks. A very creative and entertaining way to package a discussion about the benefits of various focal lengths.

@bodythetan Год назад

6:40 pushed me over the edge 😂

@jaysantiago-BX-NY Год назад

Great content, as always!!❤️ I can watch you guys discuss growing grass! 🤣 I wonder if there's a difference of what a beginner would prefer as to what a much more experienced photographer/videographer would prefer? 🤔 🤷🏽‍♂️

@guyplay Год назад

Love you guys. Been a subscriber since day 1

@yendor2043 Год назад

I enjoyed this. Keep this format please.

@martinbrochu7906 Год назад

You made my day guys! 🙂

@WayneLLC Год назад

I felt like a marriage counselor looking at this episode.. hilarity 😂

@nopsFU Год назад

Brutal. I can't wait for your April 1st video.

@SixStringGrace Год назад

I'm here for it! All reviews should have this level of dialog.

@jodatseyal7877 Год назад

Hi, I use combination of Sony 35mm GM with 135mm GM on Sony A7 IV for everyday family photos. And I love them both. However, for travel I use Sony 24mm GM on A7c and this works well for me. In my humble opinion, its a personal choice and every focal length is good if that is what you are comfortable shooting with.

@thatjordandrake Год назад

35mm and 135mm you say....

@petercruz1993 Год назад

Toxic comments section

@axa2wa Год назад

The Statler and Waldorf of photography!

@niccollsvideo Год назад

YES!

@therealbrianmartin Год назад

DP Review is always my first choice for photography science 😅

@andylawn9521 Год назад

This was soo funny and yet informative at the same time. You guys are geniuses!

@thebitterfig9903 Год назад

There was a compact pretty close to 85mm. The Sigma dp3 Quattro. It has an APS-C sensor with a fixed 50mm f/2.8, not quite macro but 1:3 for rather close focus. The Quattro line also was available with 21mm, 28mm, and 45mm equivalent focal lengths, although they’re just about all discontinued by now.

@bassandtrebleclef Год назад

I think 'favorite' changes with life circumstance. Loved the 35mm when getting close when my kids were younger. Now that they're older, they don't want me up in their grill and they're playing indoor sports, so a longer focal length with speed is needed. Best tool for the job.

@richarddenise3886 Год назад

Objectively. the greatest You Tube video in the history of man or beast!

@funtaril 7 месяцев назад

This is my favorite video of all you've ever done. And for my APS-C I got a combo of fast 85 and 35mm (eqv.) primes and versatile Tamron 18-300, so basically I'm all set.

@JaySilva88 Год назад

You both are right: there is a "best" focal length to capture a certain subject and tell a story in a certain way. You want to isolate the subject? 85/135 But you want to get the big picture? 35/50. Afordability is something you just touched lightly, the 50 is so affordable there's no way you can touch that with any other focal length. So I'm declaring the 50 the best focal length!

@DanielLasia01 13 дней назад

50mm focal length is extremely versatile.

@MikaEriksen Год назад

Best lens, 14-800mm f/0.95-5.6 zoom

@stephensmith1509 Год назад

I think Canon actually makes something like that for broadcast tv lol

@OldGirlPhotography Год назад

Well that cleared it up nicely. Thanks guys. Keep it coming!😄

@joerobbins9120 Год назад

you guys are awesome! keep up the great work

@anastasiospapatsoris5326 Год назад

I really enjoyed your video! If I were forced to choose only one lens (full frame reference), that would be a 50mm lens. Analysis of my images revealed my other favourite lenses to be 135mm, 35mm, 75mm and 21mm, in descending order.

@TheTangyapple 3 месяца назад

Nice, i also pair a 50mm with a 135mm. Distance from my subjects is better for me that way. And besides, people who pair 35mm with 85mm are objectively wrong to do so 😉

@jimee998 Год назад

7.5mm fisheye is ideal for all situations

@SamTaylors Год назад

At last, somebody said it. Thank you.

@maxdistortion Год назад

This was so entertaining! -- It also played a part in me getting a 40mm Canon 2.8 lens used. I'm a 50mm guy, and I wanted to say that's the best focal length. I still want something that can veer toward portraiture but just wider.

@frank21cn1 Год назад

Had so much fun watching this. Please make another one like this hahahaha

@Ulrich.Bierwisch Год назад

My favorite focal length is 24mm. I have used the Leica 12mm/1.4 on the GH5 and now GH6 a lot and if I had to go with only one prime, it would be this combination.

@selmertime Год назад

I am with you! My 24 rarely leaves the camera body! I do like the 35 equivalent in my x100v too, but I keep coming back to 24.

@seth094978 Год назад

I like my Olympus 12mm/2 quite a lot, but it certainly could never be default for me. I'm actually thinking of getting a 42.5, 45, or 50mm to use as my primary lens.

@adnanmansour8757 Год назад

I love this episode, by the way how was your respective blood pressure after that ! The lens in my bag almost 80% of the time is the RF 24-70 f2.8 and that should almost keep both of you happy!!

@julesc6215 Год назад

Love their reviews but this one is the best I’ve seen yet 👍💪

@funfunfun536 Год назад

Oh, finally! Thanks DP for making everything crystal clear!

@donbergeron5466 Год назад

I love the Fuji 90mm, but have recently changed to the Z group - and the Z 35mm (which can also shoot in the 50mm dx range), is now my walk around lense. My Z 24-70 f2.8 is my dream work horse though.

@gong9901 Год назад

Lens

@thatjordandrake Год назад

Nikon needs a new 135mm!

@JeahnLaffitte Год назад

I love my 10-1200mm f1.2 zoom lens. It does everything I need it to and is only 56lbs and costs $1.8m 😊

@JoJoOnTheMove Год назад

🤣 You have beaten them both, i agree with you 👍

@tomgoffnett5624 Год назад

The Sigma version of that lens is only 1.2 million.

@pablojaviermuratore Год назад

Well it was a fun way of showing which lens to use in each occasion, loved it!

@ingridbond3432 Год назад

totally enjoyed that, and i LEARNED :) TY

@vintehindecembre1607 Год назад

50mm is great for 24x36 shot but not wide enough when shooting 16/9, and most of images are now displayed on 16/9 monitor. So If you want to shoot 16/9, the best lens is 40mm. I've tried 35mm vs 40mm for a long time, the difference is real ! Give it a try !

@TheHipClip Год назад

For landscape photopgraphy, I often use a lens between 50-135. Wide-angles look nice but never interesting. You can never really convey that sense of awe when visiting a beautiful scenery, so it's best to focus on one subject, rather than a mash of everything.

@piotrgraniszewski8544 Год назад

Sounds like you have no idea how to frame wide angle shots.

@cesarm8811 Год назад

Fun video to watch. The best focal length is the lens you have at the time of taking photo. Let's Chris and Jordan, discuss the best candy bar, beer, wine, food....etc.

@dtg3852 Год назад

One of your best vids thus far. 👌

@sambennett5203 Год назад

Love this one, guys! 😂 In a round about way, you nailed it. In Micro Four Thirds my favorite two lenses are the 17/1.2 and the 45/1.2. Obviously, very different lenses for very different purposes but with those two I could cover the vast majority of my photography needs.

@petermcginty3636 Год назад

Both great lenses! Stunning images.

@Elazarko Год назад

34mm and 90mm ff equivalent?

@vladimirkarphotography Год назад

Yes

@BrittleMoon Год назад

my 3 lens outfit atm is 24 / 40 / 75 and I love them all dearly but if I had to pick one for sheer enjoyment (not necessarily versatility) it’d be the 75. Beautiful focal length

@maxfrisket Год назад

I agree and how do you feel about the 40mm? I'm curious :)

@vznquest Год назад

Chris and Jordan are the GOATS of gear review at this point

@GainesvilleKen Год назад

Classic camera club debate--content and style! Very funny and insightful.

@mbvglider Год назад

My favorite is 35mm. I also do like 24mm. I probably wouldn't use them together, though. I like keeping to two focal lengths when I'm using primes, and that means either I go with 24 + 50 or 35 + 85.

@danielmoscovitz2520 Год назад

I like 20mm and 40mm a lot, the tamron 20-40mm f2.8 zoom is bright enough and small enough to make me not want primes anymore. 24mm is often not wide enough for me and going wider than 20mm (say a 17-35 at 17) just adds too much distortion. I also like the 135mm for faces, studio type shots, anything with shallow depth of field. I guess I'd be happy if I could just shoot at those 3.

@jonhuij Год назад

There is a rumor tamron is making 20-50 2.0

@maxfrisket Год назад

Same here 40mm is my favorite the 16-20mm are fantastic then 85 for portraits

@astrobotnautics5291 Год назад

I have to say, my favourite FF focal length is 65mm. A bit of an odd choice but I really enjoy the compression you can get, where it's a bit closer to an 85mm, but at a slightly wider angle closer to a 50mm. Great for 2 shots. I was very excited when Sigma announced their 65mm Cine T1.5, and I hope they will bring an AF, affordable version to Sony E or Canon EF soon. Would be nice if it had a good MFD too. Fantastic show, glad to see you guys over on Petapixel. I'm very much enjoying this more comedic style as the channel draws to a close.

@involvementinc7748 Год назад

You two experts are CLEARLY the best presenters EVER! I now have an almost clear idea of the best focal length lens...Sheesh!

@JohnRobertsTV Год назад

This was great. I have to go with Chris on this episode as he had, by far, the most creative insults (e.g. the mistake was the lens taking Jordan on the trip. Hilarious!). As for lens focal lengths, I like a high quality zoom for travel, but primes for street photography. When I use a prime it's typically 28mm, 35mm or 50mm. Alas I agree with Jordan about the versatility of 35mm and would travel with that one if I had to use a prime.

@johnbuckingham6895 Год назад

Chris in his pompous ass mode is always comedy gold - that comment about calling the lens was the real gut buster. The only thing which would have made the video funnier is if their puppet stand-ins had done the arguing.

@ammadoux Год назад

bird photography mostly, but for causal shooting the 17 mm of the m4/3 = 35 mm is my favorite. also loved the 75 mm 1.8 form Olympus for landscapes. sorry i am not taking sides, LOL. great video boys, you are so funny and great photographers.

@niccollsvideo Год назад

But admit it. The 35mm lens is terrible for bird photography right!

@duhaalhashimi9191 Год назад

yes it is 😂

@tomgoffnett5624 Год назад

The acting was top notch, the comedy was top notch. I no longer care about focal length and just want to watch videos like this all day long. Liked,subscribed and hit the notification bell.

@safari8292 Год назад

absolutly love it guys :) amazing lenses. I love and adore the G master 35 F1.4 that I have it is like magic, my next best is the sony 90 mm macro. You nailed it.

@wobblythumb Год назад

My two lens rig consists of a 35mm and a 90mm, so this discussion had me feeling pretty validated. Then I noticed how often Chris said "utilize" when he really meant "use", and I began to wonder: could he possibly be wrong about other things too?

@niccollsvideo Год назад

Oh I can be wrong about many things, but not the best focal length, which is 85mm.

@DocDealgood Год назад

35mm + 85mm covers almost all 👍🏼

@workingwiththelight3119 Год назад

Great video! My favorite focal length is 18mm on Canon M50 which is 28mm in FF I believe. I just like my face best. 16mm distorts more and anything over 22mm makes my head square and flat.

@gvz7225 Год назад

Thank you for making me smile!! And my favorite lens? As someone else mentioned, the one without the dog hair attached to it...

@peaceone9733 Год назад

🤣🤣🤣 Totally objective, and of course you can see how serious a topic this is!

@xXadambXx Год назад

For me is 50mm, but 35 and 85 is also perfect, 24 is amazing for wide .

@xXadambXx Год назад

of course f/1.4 :D bigger than 1.8 , but not too big and expensive :D

@carravagio16 Год назад

2,678,043 videos between the two of you and this one is the best!!

@zaddy6960 Год назад

I watched the first couple minutes twice; and then it started getting heated. There’s nothing more that I love than fake sincerity.

@future62 Год назад

I have had pretty much every prime between 14 and 135mm and concur with Jordan on the 35mm. 40mm is the true ideal but much harder to get in the right configuration.

@toddysurcharge771 Год назад

I ADORE my Sigma 40mm f/1.4 Art lens for Sony-E mount. It's the one I would keep if I had to get rid of all my lenses but 1. It's wider than 50 and while not far off from 35 it just hits me better than the 35.

@CarletonTorpin Год назад

I’ll watch this show every day. Please continue being best photo personalities on RU-vid.

@digitaldevigner4080 Год назад

What a great satire on every single social media debate about this subject.

@josephparks4270 Год назад

I love the humility.

@vorpled Год назад

I know this is a joke, but it’s 40mm.

@patrickmckeag3215 Год назад

Another fun video. Great work guys. I have to vote with Chris for 85mm over 35mm because of the kind of photos I take, which are mostly portrait type shots at family gatherings. I like to get head and shoulder shots and with 85mm you are not too close to your subject. With 35mm the camera is right in the person's face, which is intimidating. My 85mm mostly stays on my main camera body