Love the content on this channel, but can never afford any of the hardware. Now the HP DL360 G8's are finally affordable, 11+ years later after release :)
Patrick, this is so far from serving the home that after I watched it I removed all the mini pcs from my 42u cabinet, sat in it and cried. Beauty of a beast nonetheless!
I run three old Dell servers in my home lab. Between the three, 104 CPUs, 597gig of RAM, and about 7tb of drive storage, which doesn't include a PC running a 16TB storage array. (8tb available, raid-1 config, upgrading when my animals stop being sick and I can afford another pair of drives). What I have I think is an already overkill home lab (This hardware is just stuff that was bound from the boneyard when the company I work for was retiring hardware) I get how exciting this hardware is, what kind of performance you get, and the kinda "fun" you can get into, but the whole "Serve the Home" theme... ... who runs THIS level of hardware at HOME? Who can AFFORD this kind of equipment? I went and looked for a price tag just to feel my stomach drop and I have to contact retailers to get a price. Also, when you want to review the hardware, but, have to lean on suppliers to give you "hot off the press" hardware... That's... That's not HOME use. This channel should be renamed to "Serve the Enterprise" or "You can own this in 12 years"....
@@BryanSeitz That's my point. This isn't serving the "home" audience by ANY stretch of the imagination. The name of this channel is very much misleading.
It should sound a bit different. Sennheiser MKH 416 sitting just off frame in the sitting set to using a lav mic here. This is lav mic #11 (DPA 4071) and it sounds at least somewhat better. We still need a bit more sound treatment, but the set is much larger and it is a different type of mic. The stationary shotgun microphone does not work as well when I am walking around and turning my head.
Yeah, I just compared the frequency between old and new studio using some past videos. For new, there is considerable high-cut on frequencies over 1k, almost half the energy is attenuated over the typical vocal range compared to the old studio. The EQing on the lapel mic might be different or maybe a different/make model.
Crazy that all that is packed into 1u, this single server could probably have replaced a rack of servers when I worked for a company that did web/cloud hosting some time ago.
Your comments at the end made me think of a cool idea for a video: Compare the performance of an entire 42U rack of dual socket Intel E5 v1 servers to a single 1U dual socket Epyc Genoa server. I honestly think we've come to the point where a single 1U server replaces the compute of an entire rack. Would be interesting to do the tests to find at which generation it's break even.
Replace the compute, sure. But try getting 10+ PETAbytes of storage on that 1U. Then try AFFORDING it. There is still a place for larger machines - for at least a few more years. BTW - you're not looking at a fair comparison anyway, the E5 v1 is a 10+ year old server CPU platform. At least compare to fairly CURRENT stuff.
@@bricefleckenstein9666 You seem to be missing the point of my comment. The entire premise is to find out in what length of time has the industry been able to compress an entire rack worth of compute down to a single 1U server. Storage density has increased as well, but it is a much more linear, rather than exponential progression, so is much less interesting which is why I didn't mention it.
It's very much possible, because going over the network is slow in comparison, so multiple servers is always a disadvantage. Probably best inter connect at the time was ? InfiniBand
@@semosesam Then why not go back to the ORIGINAL Xeons of the Pentium II generation? Why stop at the E5? And you're somewhat wrong about storage density, I've USED the original ST-506 and that was a SMALL drive in physical size when it came out (14" was the norm at the time). Gets worst than that - the MAIN memory on a Bendix G-15 (I worked on one when I was in college) was a magnetic DRUM that wasn't a ton smaller than a washing machine drum (about 3/4 the diameter of a typical apartment drier drum, IIRC, or about half the diameter of the ones you find in most laundromats). Held ballpark 4k or something tiny like that of storage. And the G-15 did take up about the same size as a 42U rack, so the "compress an entire rack" happened a LONG time ago.
Would really like to see more short depth rack servers. Custom or off the shelf doesnt really matter. Something that can fit in a typical home lab rack.
4:36 you are wrong, those two screws make it possible to attach EDSFF drives internally. We use them to attach those drives to water coolplate in our custom servers. Also, externally we use them with latchless handles (they're held with friction from leaf springs pushing them onto the water coolplate). I can give you more info if you're interested
The sound in the new studio is completely different, It's actually weird, hahahah. There are some moments when it even sounds like an AI, especially in the moments when Patric is not on camera.
Always cool to see EDSFF drives in their natural habitat. I work in the storage industry and have a lot of hands on time with EDSFF, but only with specialized test equipment or test benches.
Do Gigabyte and Dell partner? This looks so close to a Dell PowerEdge server, both with the internals and even the diagram on the underside of the cover.
EDSFF needs to become a more common standard for nvme drives, just imagine how many of those things you could fit in a 2u case if it was entirely those drives along the front
What do you mean by fully loaded? You can easily crank up one of these systems to 50k. The number of servers per rack depends a bit on airflow design of the data center, and a lot on the amount of power you can draw per rack.
I like the approach move out from VGA. It's should be obsolete by now in server field. May be, HDMI a lot better than use Mini-DP because you can take any TV and Monitors to use with it. May be the problem are BMC chip itself, while BMC should also implement HDMI instead. limit resolution to just 1080p at 30fps to keep bandwidth suitable for remote management.
You should create a new channel named ServeTheBusiness. This is way beyond the homelab. These types of server are for high availability - hyperconvergence.
Why? The STH main site is by far the largest storage, server, and networking review site out there and has been for almost a decade (it just turned 15 but the first 5 years it was smaller.) We were doing 8-way GPU servers back in 2016-2017 before they were fashionable.
Totally true there are lower-core count SKUs for higher per-core performance, and also lower core count, high cache Genoa-X parts for a lot of applications that can take advantage of that type of chip.
I would guess that the latching mechanism effectively gives OEMs a chance to advertise when the chassis is in the rack. Aside from that, they would just look generic, or god forbid, the storage manufacturers would be the most recognizable part of the faceplate. Seems pretty petty, but I wouldn't be surprised if that was the thinking.
@@thedopplereffect00 then you'd be able to replace your dell sleds with HP sleds and we all know customers can't really have nice things if they are not tied to specific vendors. ;)
Would love to see a reasonably priced (home lab territory), low power, 8-16 core x64 cpu with lots of pcie lanes...would love me some nvme storage options
Epyc 8004 is probably best bet if you can get your hands on one. There is an 8c 80w chip but once you add in motherboard and ram it's not cheap. It will be great when these get dumped on the market in the future though. I'd love one for my NAS rebuild that I'm planning.
I don't need anything like this. I have an old poweredge R720 that I'm using to teach my kids some useful skills, and to run their game servers But man, when you show me stuff like this, I really really want to sell a kidney and upgrade.
Good pickups. Absolutely not. I got very sick two weeks ago and this is the first full video I have recorded after being somewhat recovered. On the audio side, different microphones / types. This has taken 11 lav mics to get anywhere near the MKH 416.
@@ServeTheHomeVideo I hope you are back to yourself soon. Be well. You probably know way more about this than me anyways, but I have good luck with with wireless Sennheiser lavalieres. Shure is the other major player.
Serve the Home, or Serve the Data Center? I don't know many people that would get this for their home. A little disappointed that you're not focussing on home-use equipment.
Strange comment. The STH main site has been the largest server review site for a decade? We have 13 folks working on STH so we have plenty of people to do both.
Ah. This explains all those used large capacity 2.5" drives on the market. I thought they were pulled out of laptops but some of them seem too big. Didn't realize people used them in rack mount servers too. The removable caddies on servers always reminds me of Dave Bowman removing HAL 9000's cartridges - somehow those cartridges seem too large these days - in the imagination of the late 1960s that would have been the size of miniaturized computer storage units. If they'd made the movie today the cartridges would be long, thin things the size of M.2 cards.
mini HDMI is absurd for a data center/racked server situation. If they want to move away from VGA it should be to DP. Could be full sized, could be mini, could be over USB-C, doesn't matter much. But should not be HDMI
HOLY CRAP!!! I think many businesses will be challenged to afford a beast like this! Definitely never going to see anything remotely like this in any home I'm ever going to be in....
probably depends on the BMC or whatever is monitoring the fans. assuming it is OK with the tamper switch (lid lifted), and it considers fan with 0RPM a warning and waits until the affected components are out of temp spec before shutting things down, you might get away with it.
Screws, screws, screws.. working in this Business more than 20 Years now and always hoped: the next Generation will be without Screws.. No no, the Screws getting tinier 😂😂😂😂
Something not being discussed here... Gigabyte as a brand typically loses about 1% performance hit in exchange for a 5-15% lifespan longevity bonus. It's been that way on their desktop systems for almost the life of the brand, and they've brought the concept over to the server space to compete with the bigger brand names that tend to try to get you to turn over a whole datacenter every time the 3-5 year mfg extended warranty purchases run out.
Oh no. Cables to the fans. Nope. Enterprise won’t be doing that. Way too many years of popping fans easily when one fails - maybe even while still in production if you must. Powering things down is for home gaming. They missed bad on that.
0:48 An electrostatic discharge mat would have been more appropriate, but sure generate static electricity between the sensitive components and the blanket. It also kind of like your saying it isn't that big of a deal... I hope the warranty on your parts covers that According to Super User, industry experts estimate that static can cause product losses of up to 33%.
This thing is bonkers - but those EDSFF drives would actually be awesome for System Z. The current interface cards only allow 1 U.2 drive per adapter card, which can be limiting.
Thanks for the info.I glossed ever the rest of it. But, was really interested in the ssd drive. I was just thinking the other day how putting a m.2 stick in a small bay would make sense.
Rather than deal with 3 different types of storage for 17 drives, why not one that has 24x E1.S slots in a 1U like a Super Micro SSG-121E-NES24R? U.2 seems like dead tech already...
Serve the home? That looks like true overkill, unless your home is also a Resort. Thanks. No mention of price? Clearly configuration would impact that but say the price the way you would use it?
this thing looks like it could easily fit 24 e1s bays and being a dual cpu, pci-e lanes won't be a problem. wouldn;t some grills on that top metal plate help a bit with cooling, or would they mess up the air current? looks nice, i will buy a few of these once a get rich!!
Definitely going to take some getting used to the new layout and little differences to style with all the changes, but I like it so far. Also looking forward to getting to play with these in 10 years or so. Just finally got my hands on some intel scalable servers to run with some front facing NVMe, can't wait for those that have it standard to really come down, it's slightly overkill for most but it will be good to see it more accessible to all market segments.
I dont know... For business use i have to go back over ten years for the last time i actually used storage in servers... All storage is done by dedicated and redundant powerhouses like netapp or similar.. so this hardware will make our storage solutions faster in the future which is great.. but when stability is more important than raw performance i really prefer a seperated storage / compute situation
