Yeah, same thought. That was the part that stood out in this video. It’s a promo at the end of the day. AEW taught these guys to make it gritty and make it “real,” and Punk himself has said that he values that about the company. I could legitimately see Adam trying to do that and unknowingly crossing the line with his words.
@@blablablaa14 the yankees line only works towards ppl from Boston though as EVERY boston sports fans HATE the new york teams. Punks from Chicago so you would have to do a rival of Chicago sports teams
Tony all of a sudden paying attention is gold ... Like "Crap... There goes the neighborhood. We just did this in WCW, & TNA, & now AEW ... why can't I just have a nice home?"
Back in the day, Tony Schiavone did a great promo in the Ring, as a Heel for NWA-TNA (Impact Wrestling). He had worn a beige/cream colored Aloha/Hawaiian shirt. I think that Mike Tenay ("the Professor") was in the ring too.
"Mick Foley, who we had here as Cactus Jack, will be their (the WWF/WWE) champion. Yeah, that will put some Butts in the Seats. Heh !" - Tony Schiavone (or was it Eric Bischoff, that had said this line) for a WCW Monday Nitro episode (which was also shown on the same TV network, as AEW's flagship show (straight from Daily's Place), Dynamite).
@@thejedimaster5057 The interview Page did was simply saying he was hard-headed and didn't always listen. Punk literally ignored avice from the Undertaker.... the UNDERTAKER! No one in their right mind brushes off advice from the Undertaker in the business and Punk did it. He has no business criticizing Hangman for not taking advice.
no they're not since most guys on the roster don't know how to cut promos including Page, only when they're shoots like this that will ruin the company...Page had to resort to shooting in order to make his promo become interesting but clearly we knew with how Punk is burying talent he would not respond well to this backstage
@@SuperChaos002 I'm not trolling I'm dead serious...when you get random guys claiming that you're trolling sometimes I think it may be you who actually is...ya know?
First off I just want to say from a fan point of view Hangman I would have loved you to have KO'd Punk right there. If that wasn't enough messing with Jon, Mox/ Ambrose was absolutely the wrong move. Punk is not the man he use to be, anybody can go watch you tube matches. He's not that man. Punk was givin more power than he deserved to start. Hangman was spot on. Punk is doing the same behind the scene antics that made his exit from WWE. Hunter knows and saw it before. Punk needs to retire and stay there.
@@codesm96 I could care less about cm punk, but you're right. Its the same worked shoot b.s promo these guys keep trying to cut. "This is my home", "I busted my ass to get here", "you're a problem in the lockeroom", "I'm here because of you guys", "We were never allowed to make it" , "I was never supposed to make it because I'm not big enough". And guess who helped popularize it by cutting only these kind of promos? The same guy that's getting it here lmao 😂
This was a 1 year kickstarter to AEW and Tony Kahn choosing to support immature infants to run their company and CM Punk having one of the most shocking returns ever to the WWE. Thank you Adams page!!!!!
At the time I only took it as CM Punk being a former WWE guy coming in and Hangman wanting to stick up for the AEW originals. Didn't know it was all because of Colt Cabana. 😂
Wild thing is I don't think Punk even cared where Colt went ... I think the others made shit up about Punk that then became believable and people didn't/don't want to hear him out
Now CM Punk in WWE shows up towards the end on Survivor Series 2023 . He’s not working with children anymore. H tried to help AEW get the ratings up bring back quality wrestling. Now he had to put a child in his place back stage in Wembley before his match. Now we will wait and see the night after on RAW , I hope he goes off on the where he’s been. And I hope he comes with the title X out the he never lost .
This was not just directed at CM punk, but also Tony Kahn which is why he hasn’t been on TV in a couple months. Originals like Page feel that Khan is trying to turn AEW into WWE 2.0.
It's hilarious that he's not on TV but the guy could barely stay backstage during commercial breaks at the recent Minneapolis show. He had to have come out with a live mic at least 5 or 6 times. Tony can barely keep the shine off himself.
@@billywashere6965 There's something about you typing out and sending out the same thing twice just in a different way that doesn't make it any more true.
@@maxthescarecrow4038 RU-vid bug. I typed it out originally with a hashtagbut RU-vid said it didn't post -- nothing showed up. So I tried it again. - shrugs -
95% of fans didn’t even connect the worker’s rights line to Cabana, and Punk’s reaction was to make a mountain out of a mole hill and air grievances that most people weren’t even aware of. And the fact that this promo stayed in Punk’s head for as long as it did speaks volumes of Punk. Like Mox said “fragile mind, fragile ego, fragile body.”
@@frenchtoast2319 Not really sure what the issue is. If you like a person and they have a different political leaning than you, you just write them off? Man you must have a lot of friends....I have conservative friends, and while we disagree we also understand that politics is bullshit theatre, and that 98% of politicians are lying POS' anyway.
Love how people can now get worked again in Wrestling. TK existing and Hunter leading WWE is causing a lot of work. Things like this adds a little taste of kayfabe for us after decades of nothing
There's something important between that "those small quiet moments when no one's watching " Line. There's something behind that I have know idea what but it feels significant
Oh no AEW got a million PPV buys on the show Punk was on it must need protection from him. This wannabe cowboy and all the other whiny little nerds in his cliché are nobody’s they don’t even have the star power NWO had to take over a company. How are you gonna go off script without punk even knowing how is he now supposed to trust you in a match when you could dump him on his head intentionally when your supposed to actually protect the person you work with. And idk actually make money? Not do shit just for yourself?
I don’t get how wrestlers can get mad about promos regardless of if they get personal. The whole point of not having scripts is to make it more realistic and entertaining, if you get butt hurt and cause scenes backstage because of it then it defeats the whole purpose of not having scripted shit.
What nonsense. This is precisely why bookers and producers you need some element of control over promos. Not saying you script it all, but making it clear where the boundaries lie. All this backstage drama has taken its toll on AEW. Just look at ticket sales and crowds. It's diminishing because fans can't be bothered with this crap anymore.
The writing was on the wall that Punk was going to win way before hand. No hype. Page's promo actually made it interesting. "Maybe they're going a different way with this. Maybe Page might win." Hindsight, Punk was mad because Page was right.
Dudes like a jilted ex.....you once took a drink for a carton that was empty anyways and Punk will pretend it makes you the worst person ever and go to tell every female you know that youre the worst person theyve ever dated.
What, you mean being accused of something you didn't do, because the Klik 2.0 decided to pull a smear campaign *for months* with their little friends who pretend to be wrestling "journalists"? Because newsflash: Punk didn't get Cabana fired - that mooching jobber was a background extra in his last few months at AEW. The Dork Order aren't over, so why keep more dead weight around?
They were firing warning shots (Page, Kingston) for everyone to see about Punk. All the backstage drama came out in promos and everyone missed the signs (everyone remembers MJF's promo) but this was the beginning of the All Out CM Punk temper tantrum debacle. This a walking/talking Darkside of the Ring happening in front of our eyes.
Hey Hangman, how is Colt Cabana doing...you get him back on TV?...NO?? How Come? You're the difference maker...right? Did you get that union started....? No? ok then you're just talk. enjoy you're 800,000 fans including extra 100,000 from the Big Bang lead in.
Hangman told what everybody thinks , and CM Botch's ego got hurt and he is still salty like a drama queen he is lmao , Tony said enough of your shit and took off the belt from him
@@liamgraer9594 How would this be a work? Punk was scheduled to beat Moxley in his hometown, I honestly can't see Punk losing in Chicago this caliber matches , instead he lost the title a week before , it just make no sense , It is more likely that he caused major heat in the leadership and they punished him, MJF 'leaving' was clearly work since it was already reported that he signed his new contract, but this is definetly not a work imo, hearing about all that backstage drama around Punk makes this theory even more believeable
@@davidkosiba624 punk came back early from injury just to put MOX over so he could erase the Interim champ tagline One week he's back next they build to match next week they have the match on TV as quick as possible so punk doesn't mess his injury up further . Sure seems like a clever work to sort out the booking sheet after the champion got injured winning the title. Your op said Tk said enuf of your shit and booked MOX to squash punk. Like I said they worked you good If you think punk and his attitude was so bad why would he go out and job to MOX so quickly why didn't he kick out of MOXs second finish if his attitude is so bad! I think punk is an asshole and rubs alot of people the wrong way but I don't think aew changed its booking sheet for any backstage issues other than Kingston and Guevara . I might be wrong but i think punk came back from injury to do exactly what he did Build up the match with mox quickly and put over MOX quickly. Again I'm no expert I could still be wrong. Could be punk pissed everyone off so tk booked it this way But I doubt it boss Seems like a work to me
Yes sir you are 100% correct and F hangnail slag he is the Anti alpha tough guy that for 1 second no 1 is affraid of or takes serious and weakest pops ever
My favorite part about all of this is Punks “if you have a problem come see me and say it to my face” attitude and then this man did NOT have that same energy for Hangman😂😂 like bruh… cmon
So..... How did that promo work out for AEW? Lol 😂 Everybody who took Hangman Page's side.... How's that working out for you guys? 🤣😭🤪 Yah shoulda listened to CM Punk.
In retrospective the way how Tony looks and his hand gestures make sense. He new from that moment on that it got personal. However, it got fans reacting and that’s a good thing. If Punk can not take that he is in the wrong place.
I think he can take it. We didn't even know about any of the behind the scenes shit until Punk shot back on Hangman and he started bitching backstage. If anyone can't take it it's the self proclaimed "cowboy" that wears butterfly pants. 😂
It was a bitch move by punk he went into business for himself and tried to bury hangman it wasnt part of the segment and hagman couldn't do anything about it cm punk was trying to bury him starting to see why people dont like working with him
@@DamnitBobbeh2399 wait are you saying the guy who doesn’t give a shit and is continuing as usual ignoring the drama can’t take it, but the guy butt hurt months later crying like a baby and trying to start fights can?
This promo got me fired up, and excited for a match that had almost no build. It's a shame it caused so much backstage drama, because it was straight fire
But, it had absolutely nothing to do with what they’ve set up for the match. Hangman just went into business for himself with this rambling promo because COLT CABANA was let go...Colt “toot toot” Cabana. Needless to say, this is the best thing Cabana’s been a part of in his life. This promo was something only dirt-sheet guys would understand and it made no sense in regards to the angle they were supposed to carry over into the title match.
@@notgonnapay nah you trippin. This was the best promo of the whole fued. And punk could not take it because he is too much of a egomaniac who actually thinks he is the best in the world.
@@badmotherfucker6328 yeah, I’m tripping here...it’s like Punk said at the press junket after he won the belt, “I’ll put it this way: if anyone here dislikes me, it’s nobody's that dislike me.”
@@David-fanboy I agree, he was over, once upon a time. But how over is he now? Three guys who were way down below him this time last year are challenging for MJF's title, and nobody ever talks about Hangman in the title picture, even after beating Moxley a while back. If you were judging by how someone is being used on TV, you would think that Moxley won that match and not Page. And before that, I have zero memory of what he spent the last year doing. Some people don't need the title to be over, and some people do, and Hangman is one of those people.
@@roebuckmckinney you think though even though he isn’t in title contention doesn’t mean he isn’t in high profile matches like the Texas Death Match. It’s right now looking like they’re getting a BCC/Elite rivalry off the ground even though he broke away from them. Time will tell what they do since he has a kayfabe injury
Joe - This was the moment that I knew Page was the real deal. Got chill from “Defending AEW from You!” Still think this promo will still be used creatively down the road. Great job!!
Funny cause Kingston said basically the same stuff in the lead up to his match with Punk and he didn’t have a problem with the “No one wants you here” stuff
That’s because CM punk knew it was coming it was all worked into the storyline that they were talking about. However the Hangman promo was not talked about prior nor sign off on.
This is the new kayfabe… Mixing the backstage real life stuff with the in ring stories… Brilliant! Wrestling needs to blur the lines and create some time of suspense
Uh it is not new. They did this but x 1000 back in the 90s. It was glorious. Now all we need are some slutty hoochies in tight dresses like they also had in the 90s. I loved that era!
Except this was a straight shoot that cost him his spot. Punk is an asshole when it comes to talent backstage, Page was telling the truth but Page went into business for himself. This isn't kayfabe, they got a lot of heat backstage but clueless Tony and his awkward cokehead ass with his billionaire daddy's money doesn't know how to handle the situation...this isn't brilliant, it's pathetic and embarrassing
If it works- except this didn’t. It made no sense to their storyline or the PPV. Kudos to them for trying, maybe? But it needs to make sense on both levels, and this was confusing to regular viewers.
@@davecomeau5719 Go listen to Dutch Mantell’s take on what happened. The payoff is coming down the line… And the fact that social media is blazing with this, and has this as the top trending story in wrestling makes it successful. If nothing else, CM Punk just put himself over even higher. The Young Bucks and crew apparently rub many backstage the wrong way. It seems like Cody Rhodes left cuz of them. Punk might be setting this up in such a crazy way given the real life, backstage aspect of it all. It’s believable, and wrestling needs believable story lines. This is a genius way to usher in a new era of kayfabe
@@milkman4eva I’m talking about Hangman’s promo at the time. If it works *now*, it didn’t do its job at the time to promote the match for that PPV. I don’t disagree about what’s happening now.
@@thedecipher346 Which is precisely like Punk himself did to Cena, and even the Rock more than 10 years ago. What Page said during the promo might indeed sound unprofessional, but Punk is now in Cena's condition, here.
Update and now punk is happy and making himself and wwe more money and ratings while mr cowboy is in aew chasing viewers away from watching and trading drinking alcohol to drinking blood 😂
@@KOHoxton eh I feel like being a founder, evp and actively involved in the company regardless of how much drama you cause means you care about the company more than someone there by his own admission just for a pay check and has shown little loyalty or respect in any company he’s worked for.
Oh no AEW got a million PPV buys on the show Punk was on it must need protection from him. This wannabe cowboy and all the other whiny little nerds in his cliché are nobody’s they don’t even have the star power NWO had to take over a company. How are you gonna go off script without punk even knowing how is he now supposed to trust you in a match when you could dump him on his head intentionally when your supposed to actually protect the person you work with. And idk actually make money? Not do shit just for yourself?
As far as I’m concerned, THIS is where Hangman Page turned Heel. It just took the company 3 years , their biggest star leaving, and opening their eyes to another young wrestler with more upside in Swerve Strickland, for them to finally realize it.
Schoavone is great at selling ‘oh sh*t this is real’. His face here and don’t forget he was on the announce desk the night Scott Hall showed up on WCW Monday Nitro and he was great at that too.
It was unprofessional for Hangman to go into business for himself and bringing backstage politics into it. But with that said no one even remembered this promo until Punk threw a fit about it lol.
Literally everyone forgot about this until Punk called Hangman on Dynamite MONTHS after this promo aired. There is absolutely no reason why Punk couldn’t have just let this go. Punk has reason to be mad at the EVPs if it turns out that they actually did leak the story about Colt to the press (keep in mind this has not been confirmed yet). However, in my mind, Hangman didn’t really do anything wrong, and Punk is being a child for the grudge he is holding against him.
“Forgot about it” implies fans caught onto this in the first place. This went over everyone’s heads and no one was even talking about this promo until Punk brought it up months later when he called out Hangman Page on Dynamite
Oh no AEW got a million PPV buys on the show Punk was on it must need protection from him. This wannabe cowboy and all the other whiny little nerds in his cliché are nobody’s they don’t even have the star power NWO had to take over a company. How are you gonna go off script without punk even knowing how is he now supposed to trust you in a match when you could dump him on his head intentionally when your supposed to actually protect the person you work with. And idk actually make money? Not do shit just for yourself?
I like how when punk was in wwe he roasted the shit out of john cena, HHH, and Vince McMahon but when the same was done to him he cried like a baby and tried to fight people in the locker room. MJF, Kingston, Moxley, and Hangman all spoke the truth about this prick.
And now? After Survivor Series 2023, CM Punk comes out and is in WWE ? Where is Hangnail Page? The baby face , drinking his opponents blood in an outlaw garbage match that basically he and Swerve pulled their pants down and took a shit in the middle of the ring , and put it in the companies face in TK’s face and the investors for Time Warner if they want to do business with this company. And Punk is no longer in a company working with children . But back in the WWE! I can’t wait til the RAW after Survivor Series.
😂😂😂 tell me more oh great one 😂😂 no it’s about there soft egos.. colt 😂😂 he’s done nothing his entire career lmfaoooooooooo As far as mjf they are working you good son 😂
omega has problems w/ his guts, jungle boy is in the doghouse for life, hangman is on the IR & the bucks, imo, arent getting over at all since they brought their heel EVP personas to tv 🤷🏻♂️
This is the promo plenty of AEW fans like to pretend never happened. Hangnail Page started this shit and Punk finished it, and now Punk is The Real AEW champion forever and nobody can say different lol.
Oh no AEW got a million PPV buys on the show Punk was on it must need protection from him. This wannabe cowboy and all the other whiny little nerds in his cliché are nobody’s they don’t even have the star power NWO had to take over a company. How are you gonna go off script without punk even knowing how is he now supposed to trust you in a match when you could dump him on his head intentionally when your supposed to actually protect the person you work with. And idk actually make money? Not do shit just for yourself?
my man hangman just spittin facts and punky boi just crying by the inside like in all his career. btw: He is right, he snatched all the opportunities from young talent and not only did he steal the championship twice, but he has generated a lot of toxicity in the fans and in the locker room, making everyone tense. exactly the opposite of what he promised
