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in india, air suspension is most coolest thing ever. every big buses have them. it is so cool. those air suspension bags take insane beatings, abused, tortured as hell.
Your website sucks... why i gotta enter my suspension to order wheels... i know what size i need.. also your site is way more expensive than some local shops even :/
@@Isacrus I gotcha. Lol but that shouldn’t even be an option tho. Ppl do those trash random eBay air kits then when they ride like shit or completely breaks on em they go back static & trash talking bags. The only air you should go is Airlift if you can’t afford it save if you can’t save then it’s just not for you
@@Hold.My.Tacoss EXACTLY and also they have to do it correctly they see someone with cheap bags and wasn’t installed correctly then they completely turn on them
As a track guy I don't think I'd ever go air because of the added complexity and cost. There's more things to go wrong, it adds weight, and KW V3 and Ohlins coilovers are 2/3 the cost for better performance. But as long as you do take the time to set it up right it can definitely outperform stock on most cars. I think price is a dumb thing to hate something on because that's just preference at that point. However, I think the hate stems more from the stance side. As a track guy, I DO NOT like stance cars with intentionally crazy camber and offset wheels, it all looks pointless to me when I could be having more fun improving the car's performance. I just don't like the style at all besides drift cars and it never pleased me aesthetically, I think well setup track cars look better with functional stance. Since air has that association with stance people assume any car on bags is a stance car and that's not true. Air has many applications and can perform. Whether it's worth the cost for convenience and time to setup is up to you.
OOF sorry Fitment Industries, you liked when I was still editing, don't think y'all agree with my second part lol. I have friends with stance cars but we respect each others' work in our builds. All good.
Your wrong though, A set of broadway static coils literally costs more than a airlift 3p kit at the end of the day now take into account things like spacers, control arms, and axles. Trust me bro people can afford air its not that special bag owners just wanna make an excuse for being wusses.
Another reason is because a lot of bagged owners can sometimes be elitist. Since it costs so much, I've seen bagged car owners belittle static car owners simply because of the assumed sociopolitical ranks. Just because you can afford 3.5k suspension doesn't mean you're better off, but doesn't stop some people from acting like they think they are. You could say static owners can be bad too, but I see more heat from those who are bagged tbh.
@@GammaRaediation I've went from static to air suspension. Most people who have air suspension has had static at some point and most people who run static hasn't ran air suspension. My personal experience from both sides of the isle are as follows: Static for 3 years: Never once had a bag guy ridicule me. At worst I heard them say they were tired of driving awkwardly and replacing/repainting things. Any guy that far into the stance scene typically has had static suspension before air suspension. If they are an asshole while on bags they were likely an asshole while on static. Air suspension for 1 year: "Oh it's bagged. All show no go" "Why add all that weight ?" "Bags are for groceries but you can't fit any" "How's your tow bill ?" "It's not worth it just get coilovers more for less" "Your suspension cost more than your car" "So this thing mostly travels on a trailer ?" " Why do that to a fast car ? " It goes on and on. ( I own a 2013 Camaro 2SS ) It gets to the point where I question why someone invests so much energy into viciously opposing what I do with MY money. That's not to say that I don't get compliments from guys on static. There are some really cool and humble dudes out there who will admit they want bags but just not willing to pay the difference or their car is simply more track oriented than mine. There are elitists every where and it's not because they have bags or static. It's because they are just assholes in life.
To those saying “just lift the engine”. Bruh. My Miata used to frame bang like a motherfucker. There’s no avoiding that when you’re on coils. You’re stuck at a specific height and adjustments take a while. Air suspension, you can adjust the whole cars height on the fly. Y’all just mad cause you’re broke 🤷🏼♂️
Our widebody, supercharged FRS on airlift is our most practical vehicle and we live in Northern Minnesota 😁 Going air was the best decision ever and more than worth the cost.
@@Datboi_Moshhh just let us believe it lol.. We have an S2000, Tacoma and an A4. In our eyes our FRS checks all the boxes. If they didn't use so much salt on the roads, it would be driven all year round.
Truck guy here, I prefer both. Have airbags in the rear along with your springs and the suspension is soft when you aren't towing and air it up for a load when you are. Air is a lifesaver in a work truck
Yes it is. Coming from a semi truck driver whenever I can’t back my truck under trailer because some idiot didn’t have the landing gear set high enough. I air out the bags and scoop the truck right under and hook and book.
Air is what im putting on my next car. getting into my driveway, speedbumps in the area, bad road design where there is a horrible angle from straight to uphill on the road. even on stock suspension i hit on that. the ability to adjust the height with a switch when you need it is priceless. especially on something you really care about. other cars i do will use lowering springs mostly but for the few dream cars i want to build all will end up on air.
I do think it really comes down to preference and willingness to fork over the cash for it. I'd love to do a air setup on my b7 passat, I just need to save up some coin for it, and take the time to install it properly
I've always been a die hard static guy. Partly because bags were just out of reach financially. But I've saved some money, and I'm tired of replacing oil pans, repainting bumpers and fenders. I bit the bullet and bought an airlift system. Hoping I can drive my car like a car again and be able to be low when I want to be low. BUT In my opinion, most of the hate is from who can afford it and who can't. Who knows how to piece together a manual system or find a cheap used system. It's not necessarily the cost of the air ride it's the price of the install as well. At the end of the day like it or not a major factor in the hate, is money. ♥️♥️ love the vids
My Audi A6 C7 3.0 Tfsi is on air suspension. I had static suspension on my cars, but still prefer air suspension. You can put it on the ground, easily over speed bumps without braking things, and yes you can ride very low with it. It's not just for show. Nothing more gorgeous than a badass ride that is sitting on the ground. Yes it is expensive, yes you can have issues with it, but so you can with coils. Let's get honest, we all have the same love and passion - - > LOW RIDES 🙏🙏
I was worried when Installed air on the vw dubs and how it would perform during the winter time. And let me tell you it works! No leaks, no frozen lines, nothing. I didnt even but anti freeze in the tank and I live in Canada. If you are thinking about it. JUST DOOO IT!
I've had issues in winter time with air ride (moisture freezing in valves & lines), there are products you can run in your tank to prevent that tho, even still always worth it when done right
Nice vid. I’ve had both coilovers and air. Air is by far awesome. Ride is great. The height adjustment is amazing especially for my steep driveway. Will never go back if I can help it for sure.
Getting air installed on my 14 Mazda 6 by a local company that does lot's of custom air ride work in a few month's. I am very excited and can't wait to have it. They know it's my only car and i use it year round rain or snow it need's to get me to work.
I love them BOTH, but Static prevails with ME. IT increases your skills on driving, IT rides GREAT, looks GREAT, and the price, IS what my pocketbook can handle.
Air ride is great and I personally love seeing a well bagged car . But driving slammed static is just so much fun it's not practical but fun and you also learn how to drive with patience and it's a pretty good skill to learn to drive a real low car 🤣 I look at it as practice for when I can finally afford my supercar
Not a fan of super low, intense camber stuff, but I have stock air suspension on my C5 Audi Allroad and the ability to improve ground clearance by almost 5” is insane! I like for more utility purposes, but it does look super clean if you don’t go crazy low and keep things classy.
Except in the 60s cars had leaf springs in the rear and almost no car had coil overs like we see today. Ever worked at a euro service shop and seen the amount of merc Benz with air ride ? Almost always wrecked. How about the gm air ride on Tahoe etc? That being said I love a hardbody on bags doors to the floor!
I think they're great, i love both air and static (never had air tho) i just think there are applications to everything. Big VIP style saloon/wagooon? Bag that mtfkr Shmol racecar? Racecar in general? Scrape all the way to the track my boi cos u is bout to kick sum ass
I've had both Airlift & KW V3's - loved both for different reasons. Often find myself missing the practicality of bags. And yes. Winter conditions were fine. Toss some air brake antifreeze into the tank and she's mint.
If I want my car to eventually achieve the perfect amount of slam I'm gonna need me some of that air for manouvering all the speedbump excess and rocky roads there are in Sweden. Also air is great if you want to dabble a bit in showcar but also take it around the track and have fun some times! Still saving though...
Static, only because I don’t really care for super low cars. A little lowering can look good, but if the car looks like it can’t get into a driveway with a reasonable incline from the street, I’m over it.
I like how MBZ does it, coil spring with bags, back when I did low riders, at Oakland frame and axle, we’d have a short stack of coils in the control arm pocket, so ride quality was not too bad
I’m fairly new to the car scene, but my biggest issue is the ride height. I went to a car meet last month, and I’d say about 60% of the cars running bags look like they had my monster truck stock ride height
Building a car in certain areas in the world can be challenging. Especially if you want the more exclusive “real” parts. I had the choice of going on air (accuair cvt) for about 6500 usd installed. That was to much for me as the value of the car according to the insurance was about the same. Went with a more premium coil over because I want te be comfortable on the street and have control on track and choice the Tein Monosport. People with a Z please consider them. They have changed my car for the better. They ride great. All in all it was 2500 out the door. Still not cheap by any stretch but reasonable. Wish to have bags at a few of my other projects. Maybe in the future when my new garage will be finished. Great video. And guys don’t hate bags. They can be very useful
You forgot to mention that most "car guys" on the internet hate on any aesthetic mod unless it has 1000 hp, and since bags are popular in stance scene they're mostly seen by some as purely aesthetic even if it's not.
Too much effort, cost and management for what you get. I am a bit biased here as i dont like stanced builds at all. Im a rally lover too so my gc8 is on lowered springs with sway bars and control arms and it comes in a lot cheaper, looks clean and feels amazing. Not to mention its perfect for any sort of racing 😛
There is a STI running air ride on the track in the Superspeedersrob show called Sorted. The presenters said it drove well on the track and also in the canyons.
Adds complexity to suspension, air lines, tank/compressor, fuses now I also gotta worry about wheel Fitment so it doesn’t run bag...my Bc coilovers have been just fine at 900 dollars, I don’t have it extremely low that I’m scrapping every second I’m driving. I put a lot of work to make my G sit the way it is tuning my coilovers, bags look good when laid out but once lifted to drive the stance changes. I’ll always pick coilovers
I’m currently installing air lift 3H on my 94 Corrado, I am always taking my time and stalling it took me about four hours to run the front lines so they won’t hear anything.
Cold was my biggest hold back I live in good ole’ Minnesota and it gets frigid so I was worried about lines getting frozen condensation the cones the price, which I’d just have to wait for tax return season deals
From someone who had had both, in my personal opinion I enjoy coils way more then air suspension. Bags have a few upsides but not worth the price and the hassle.
im trying to decide on what to put on my daily (yes i know leave it stock whatever). coils or bags. Live in appleton like them and the roads and ramps are kinda shit. whta do you guys think? static or bags?
I drive a 370z and often see people remove the rear strut bar for the tank/compressor. It's never seemed worth it to me and would rather spend the money on adjustable suspension or an angle kit
Ok but nobody actually uses air lift for performance. They just use it for taking photos and getting over bumps but its funny because every car I see with air still has the most damaged bumpers its like they dont even air up to get over the bumps idk it makes no sense
Please for the love of god, make the first Generation RL included in that though. Same car, just rebadged before the full redesign and before they went J35 in all the RL’s.
I would go with air suspension, so I can adjust my ride height due different cities and their road conditions. Plus I care for the bottom of my car unlike others who don’t.
I ran into that same situation after my bag got a leak 30 miles after I got it installed and was stuck 4 tow drivers told me no even with the wheel dollies smdh. Now my question is, is there a minimum psi number you can ride on you bag that will cause a leak?
Had it on my evo twice tried different setups and I hated both. Sure it looked dope but having the car sit for weeks when shit would break down got old real quick. Never had a bag pop always manifolds or remotes taking a crap.
I like them both but air suspension does work real well on drag racing cars a friend of mine has a 6 second in quarter mile ran wheelie bars switched air suspension and did not have use wheelie bars and still runs 6 seconds in the quarter mile
Hey wait what about the hybrid setups? Those coilovers with..idk what to call them... Pucks? It's like air and coilovers had a baby. What about those? I think fortune auto sells some.
I might have possibly spent more on bags for my mk3 Jetta, than I paid for the Jetta itself 🙄😂. Well worth it though, rides great and I don’t have to worry about killing my oil pan
