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This is why Electricians don't use Romex in wet environments (TROUBLESHOOTING OUTDOOR LIGHTS)

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Before you go pulling that NM cable through some smirf-tube underground, watch this video. Conduits installed in underground environments are considered wet, and NM cable IS NOT A WET-rated conductor.
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This was a quick and easy little troubleshooting job. The customer called and said they had a circuit that kept tripping everytime their timeclock came on, which controlled their outdoor lighting. So I decided to stop by and check it out.
I found all of the bulbs installed were incandescent candelabras, which can break easily and sometimes show as a short circuit while troubleshooting. I found quite a few bulbs that were bad, so we just took all of them out to see if that would clear the fault. It didn't. We flipped the breaker and it still tripped, with no bulbs in the fixtures. I inspected all of the sockets at each fixture, and there were no visible signs of anything shorted out or melted, so I began to think there may be issues with the wires inside the fixtures.
This is less likely to be the case, but I also noticed no weatherproofing at the base of each fixture so the likelihood of moisture getting into the fixtures was pretty. Upon opening all of the light fixtures I verified that the conductors inside the stone were soaked at every location. The problem with this is that Romex (NM cable) is not rated for wet environments. The insulation around the conductors is not made of a material that is rated to withstand moisture, and over time can break down and cause a short circuit to occur.
This is exactly what happened.
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@travisbruno1988 2 года назад

ive been a commercial/industrial electrician for 15+ yrs and a overhead lineman for 5 yrs. i still love watching you teach your techniques because you take pride in your work..keep it up brother God Bless and stay safe

@cynic5581 2 года назад

Ya, really took a lot of pride in literally putting tape on a known code violation, collecting money and rolling out so fast he didn’t have time to video the lights working. I’d really hate to see your level of someone not taking pride in their work. I can appreciate your sentiment. Dustin is a fantastic electrician however this is by far his worst video and something we’ve all done but should really keep to yourself.

@briank10101 8 месяцев назад

I wish everyone would say God Bless. 🙏

@lawrencepevitts2434 3 года назад

I've NEVER had a bulb short out. They almost always burn out open.

@cuxietube 3 года назад

Same here. Sometimes some flickering if the filament opens up and then moves a bit but I've never seen a broken filament cause a short. Although I once had a short when I tried to unscrew a light bulb on which the glass had separated from the base. As soon as I started turning the glass, poof....

@TheSeanUhTron 3 года назад

Same. Wouldn't the filament just illuminate or burn up if it shorts? I also believe that most incandescent bulbs have fuses in them (Basically the wires leading up to the filaments are designed to act as fuses in cases of excessive current draw).

@juicebocs574 3 года назад

I think he was referring to incandescent light bulbs identifying as shorts (continuity) if you don't remove them from the circuit prior to testing-- as opposed to LEDs.

@steve-o6413 3 года назад

Incandescent are better in wet locations show it as a open circuit from I've heard so far LEDs that are rated for wet locations don't hold up. Maybe they have improved over the years...

@nicktschaeche1376 3 года назад

Same here. I think Juice might be right. I've messed my words up plenty of times.

@richkloempken8473 3 года назад

The one important item that I always do when making up connections in a wet location is to make sure the wire nut is facing up. This prevents any water from pooling inside the wire nut and wire connections. It becomes ‘self-draining’. You never want to caulk around the base of a vertical fixture, as caulking can also prevent any water that may have gotten inside the fixture and base from draining. Exterior light fixtures such as the ones in the video are not water tight. Rain water will enter via the top finial or around metal to metal joints or glass to metal joints. Also every exterior fixture has rusted rivets holding the lamp sockets or a socket with a rusted center (hot) tab.

@jasonj4865 3 года назад

Or you could just use the expensive WP wire nuts like an adult. LOL

@djhatton6858 3 года назад

@@jasonj4865 my thought also. Seems like use of silicon filled wn would have been a good plus up

@jkK-lw9lu 3 года назад

@@jasonj4865 😭UL listed for damp environments too!

@robertthompson3447 2 года назад

I do irrigation wiring as part of my lawn service. Even with the jelly filled wire nuts, I still point them face up so they can drain.

@boeing757pilot 5 месяцев назад

Yup, that's the rule with moisture: things get wet; the goal is to allow them to dry..

@OtisPlunk 2 года назад

You can do a neat job of taping if you wrap your tape around a small 1/4" drive socket first and use this "mini roll" that you created to dispense the tape around the conductor tightly. Marine heat shrink tube with sealant is also a decent choice and maybe a braided sleeving for abrasion resistance. I love the 'real world' service calls. It's great content.

@gerhardschemel3565 2 года назад

I use a short section of heavy gauge wire use a low torque small drill motor to turn it

@Mr._Krabs 3 года назад

We need more videos of you working on real world shit. I love it

@TannerEskew 3 года назад

I’ve taped many wire on service calls where they just need to get it going again. Only some of us will admit it though! Good find

@Sparky-2036 3 года назад

I've been on service calls where it needs fixed NOW and then a date and time will be scheduled for it to be fixed right. Usually within a few days.

@paisleyprince5280 3 года назад

There comes a time where you can only do what the customer is willing to pay for. Really sucks when a couple of hours of troubleshooting has been spent to diagnose the problem correctly just to half ass the repair.

@donaldeisenbarth5255 3 года назад

Twist the up and apply tape. I for one soldered them and then taped. I noticed the code book is different than when I retired many years ago. Never felt confident in the crimp splices but I saw them hold up in very bad environments. I considered the book as a minimum standard and approached wiring from an engineering standpoint--often better than the code. Engineering was my background.

@timothyroberts8445 3 года назад

@@paisleyprince5280 charge for the troubleshooting and say have a nice day call someone else.

@rubenblanco1598 3 года назад

So much wasted video on a simple fix

@mariaelisakevin1 3 года назад

Seems to me that it would be best to always treat EVERY outdoor electrical component as if they were constantly soaked and use materials and methods appropriate for a wet environment as a normal practice. Yes, that would be overkill in most circumstances but you would never have to worry about anything being not quite enough.

@martinneosel3403 8 месяцев назад

@mariaelisakevin1 What about running a new length of replacement Romex through polyethylene tubing and attaching it to the masonry?

@eltonnoway5692 3 года назад

7:08 - The reason it's ALWAYS the last one you check... is because once you find the problem there's no reason to keep on checking. Its like when you lose your keys or something and you tear the house apart looking for them... you always find them in the last place you look because once you found them you stop looking.

@catawissa2weinhold579 3 года назад

I’ve been saying this for years and never met anyone else who thinks this way!

@rmiller2179 3 года назад

Its a metaphysical phenomenum- mena- menum- menum

@jacobplank 3 года назад

I like it, that's good and so true!

@brianmickelson4642 3 года назад

Came to post this and knew it had to already be here…. Well done sir

@executivesteps 3 года назад

RIP George Carlin

@vanderpoolfarmsl.l.c.9983 3 года назад

Well, actually there is one good reason to use incandescent bulbs. That is when you need light AND heat. Such as in incubators or warming cabinets.

@cesarmoore7996 3 года назад

Yes gotta keep those chicks warm 🐣

@roninjotatan 3 года назад

@@electrofrying1685 what led lights are you buying with li-fi?

@heynow7363 3 года назад

Or when they are totally enclosed. Sometimes a good old incandescent is a great value...they just work.

@darylsavage119 3 года назад

@@heynow7363 incandescent outside is a pain, sodium or mercury fittings however are still great outside

@heynow7363 3 года назад

@@darylsavage119 no doubt. I have an incandescent pole light on my corner of house 8 feet or so from corner. Lightning on this iron ore ground 300 feet from distribution lines apparently has blown a hole in 2 plus bulbs so far. I kept the last 2. I like the dual level motion detectors so there is a little light until you trip motion.. I drove ground rods on all four corners of home, attached to slab and specialty construction methods of walls. I may just need to abandon the dual bright motion and go with a good led fixture. Looks like I need to drive a rod at that light, too. It's the only one on the hill ever affected. Crazy.

@HypherNet 3 года назад

I don't think there's anything you could do to make a conduit outdoors not "wet" water will _always_ get in unless the conduit is fully potted. If air can get in (which it will, eventually), then water will get in via condensation, and then it will accumulate. At least that's my take on it.

@johndoe-so2ef 3 года назад

But with the right wire, it still works. I've seen plenty of wire running literally under water with no problems.

@lloydmills9619 3 года назад

Water in conduit is usually from air. Condensation.

@steve-o6413 3 года назад

You're right air has moisture, warm air meets cold air and condensation occurs over time water will buildup if not vented for evaporation. It probably would've been better if the Mason had slightly dome shaped around the pipes allowing the water to escape...

@electricaf365 3 года назад

Every piece of conduit in the ground has water in it

@danserrano2251 2 года назад

Primer, glue, putty

@budc.8172 3 года назад

Cement is water permeable, the amount depends on cement mixture, hence it is a wet location when exposed to the ground or outdoor conditions. It does not take high amounts of moisture to damage romex so the small amounts of moisture that make it through the permeable cement can do heavy damage to the insulation.

@josephlabranch6595 2 года назад

The real problem with using type NM cable in a situation like this, even if it was for a 12 or 24 volt circuit, is the jacket and inner paper, even though the conductor insulation might be THWN, the paper soaks up water, the outer jacket holds it in, everyone has seen THWN fail eventually because of a scuff in the nylon outer jacket on the conductor after a few years, but that is on a conduit that is more than likely filled with water because of condensation and elevation seepage, now couple that with rotting paper.

@thomasdragosr.841 2 года назад

Those fixtures were not sealed to the mounting surface. There was plenty of room for water to enter the splice area from rain or pressure washing. Also, there is no way to know if those conduits were continuous between fixtures or were punctured during construction. We have all seen crazy stuff like "direct buried romex".

@shimes424 3 года назад

Not sure if I missed it but main reason why it's frowned upon is because you lose amperage overhead. Conduit, especially EMT, can reflect the heat from high amperage back into the wire, so the 12ga-20a rating is for THHN in conduit when it has room to breathe and cool off. When 12ga Romex is in the wall, the insulation holds in heat like EMT does to regular pull wire. Free-air THHN can handle at least an extra amp or two when compared to Romex or EMT, but for obvious reasons we don't do that. For heat buildup reasons, we don't do both. EMT or Romex (except when necessary, like in basements where the Romex is exposed in the ceiling joints and it runs down the wall 🧱 to an outlet) (use fittings at BOTH ends of the EMT)

@Makitafan 3 года назад

You've really stepped up your videos! They are a lot more comprehensive with the code checks and safety checks etc! Great work. Ps thank you soo much for doing service call videos. Theyre inherently more difficult and thus more entertaining.

@StanSwan 3 года назад

lol

@tom13227 3 года назад

Filiment is the 'spring' thing. It is held in place by two contact wires which go to the base & foot of the bulb

@MrMaxyield 3 года назад

Of course Dustin knows what a filament is. I think he was speaking on the glass rod ..

@phenry5083 3 года назад

@@MrMaxyield no. he wasnt

@brendanpratt7760 3 года назад

Filament actually, but I think we got the idea. :)

@xenonram 3 года назад

@@phenry5083 yes he was.

@phenry5083 3 года назад

@@xenonram no, he wasn’t.

@markpotter8280 3 года назад

AS an electrician it is your responsibility to ensure the installation is safe. I agree with all your comments however I would have done an insulation resistance test (I dont know what the regs are in America but if the results show problems with the cables which I suspect they might in that installation. I would have disconnected that circuit and informed the client why it was disconnected and offered to give various quotes for fixing the installation properly. Yes I know they may have to have walls dismantled to achieve the same job or surface conduit etc etc but that is better than water getting back into that circuit and the wall becoming live and someone getting a shock. Awkward situation to be in would like to know your thoughts on this

@marcgaskett 3 года назад

Would never just “tape” it up where I am in Australia, always perform an IR test and in this instance I would definitely use resin heat shrink on the exposed conductors and then apply silicone inside the conduits and fitting and then outside around the base to completely seal that chamber and keep it free from moisture, like his fault finding methods but his repair work seems very cowboy to me

@ScottHz 3 года назад

@@marcgaskett yes, it was so weird to have the guy that says, ‘Get out your code book’ just slap electrical tape on as a fix - where’s that in the NEC?

@electricaf365 3 года назад

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@electricaf365 3 года назад

@@ScottHz as if you’ve ever opened an NEC

@Islamisthecultofsin 2 года назад

He should have disconnected the circuit as it is unsafe. The circuit breaker was also not a ground fault.

@BLud_Bro_FoE 3 года назад

Dustin bro,I passed ny journeymans exam today and I wanted to say thank you for your videos you helped me out alot.keep up the good work brother

@Josh-vp1hw 3 года назад

Congratulations! I wish you a full, and satisfying career sir! Welcome to the fold!

@ScottHz 3 года назад

Congratulations!

@jasonj4865 3 года назад

Congrats, also handymen will now be the bane of your existence.

@jakesully5402 3 года назад

Congrats dude !!! It’s a rewarding career. I remember my instructor sharing advice with the senior class just before writing our national exam (ie Red Seal in Canada). You might have already heard this from a colleague or instructor. Mine said a newly licensed electrician is at the most dangerous point of his/her career. Newly licensed tend guys put a lot of unnecessary expectAtions on themselves. Remember, you can’t POSSIBLY know everything just because you are now licensed. A license is a minimum standard of independence and competence. Often, a competent decision is one where u decide to admit to yourself that you need to ask a more experienced colleague for guidance because u are not comfortable with the scenario you are in. I’ve been licensed for over 10 years now, and am not afraid to ask a colleague for their opinion. Equally, my opinion is often sought. Keep this advice in mind and you will be fine.

@casey1756 3 года назад

Congrats

@josephlabranch6595 3 года назад

In 35 years I've never seen an incandescent lamp cause a short, I have had them cause an arc fault. I am completely with you on the superiority of led lighting, but sometimes I wonder how some of your surmises come from.

@peterrivney552 2 года назад

I agree when a bulb burns out it don't short a short is working problems this guy I would not trust to do any work on my house or garage ...

@stevelastname4711 2 года назад

I had the exact same question. Both sides of the filament have to be attached or there would be no light. Broken filament touches itself can't be a short, it is just simply open.

@juliovalencia4948 2 года назад

Haha true I've never seen that either in my 15 years

@iamthundermug 2 года назад

It's called running up the bill. milking the customer. I only get paid if i'm working and theres no more customers today so I'm gonna stretch this one out.

@juliovalencia4948 2 года назад

@@iamthundermug I charge by the job not by the hour you charge by the hour when you don't know what your doing

@briancorry208 3 года назад

I found the ending of this video to be just as satisfying as if seeing the actual fixture lights working properly! Thanks for the closure! 👍🏼

@XFolf 3 года назад

Never seen a light bulb fail to short... You really need to revisit your remarks on the topic because it really calls your knowledge to question.

@lw7238 3 года назад

I agree, the broken filament will just burn off.

@Ernesto11 3 года назад

It won't be inside the bulb, but in the lampholder (seen heat lamps arc and melt the solder on the bottom of a bulb, causing it to run into the lampholder and short). I agree a bit though, he was off the mark implying it could short out inside the bulb. That and not splitting the circuit in 2 right away. Seemed like he was milking the job

@animarkzero 3 года назад

@@Ernesto11 The thing that annoyed me the most was him not properly repairing the problem(heat shrink?) and on top of that he did not clean the wires which were totally oxidated!

@noferblatz 3 года назад

Don't run romex through ANY conduit. It's incredibly hard to pull this stuff through. Use separate wires-- THHW or whatever.

@meganw6007 2 года назад

I had wondered about that, because at my mother in law's house, an electrician had run PVC conduit from the main panel, through the exterior wall of the garage to outside, up along the outside, then connecting back through the attic above the 2nd story. The family was discussing whether they could use that conduit to wire something through the attic, and the insulation surely looked like NM-B/Romex to me, but everything I kept seeing kept mentioning "no Romex through any conduit" and I kept wondering what was going on.

@billclinton6040 3 года назад

I had a short in my landscape lighting. Took me a while to find the short. It was due to a missing junction box where the wire nuts were just buried in the dirt. Don't ask me who or what they were thinking. While fixing it, I discovered the builder ran NM cable in PVC conduit that's buried 12 inches underground. I decided to replace it all with UF cable. To my surprise, the NM was actually ok even though it was nearly 20 years old. I also replaced the really old HID lamps with some super nice LED lamps. So happy with the upgrades and now my landscape lighting is better than ever.

@josephlabranch6595 2 года назад

What is the voltage supplying your landscape lighting?

@jamm6676 3 года назад

I like the way you brought the code book into play while doing the job. Yea going through the code book just doesn’t interpret everything clearly at times. Much appreciated

@nunyabidness2143 3 года назад

Maybe if they didn't write the damn thing in Olde English it might easier to understand. Lol. It's like they don't want you understand it at times

@ScottHz 3 года назад

@@nunyabidness2143 maybe find a line of work that’s not so complicated. ;)

@nunyabidness2143 3 года назад

@@ScottHz worry about yourself. I've been doing this a while. I'll be just fine

@ScottHz 3 года назад

@@nunyabidness2143 Not worried about you at all - maybe don’t post RU-vid comments if you don’t want comments about your comments XD

@nunyabidness2143 3 года назад

@@ScottHz or maybe just don't be a douche. The code book can be complicated with the way they word things and the way inspectors interpret things. The work itself isn't complicated. Have a good one, or dont...

@PalmSandsRanch 3 года назад

I think you mentioned it but some clear silicone around the fixture base may have helped. I really appreciate your videos, I was an electrician over 20 years ago before I got into Healthcare, I still do all my own stuff and here and there for family but have lost a ton along the way.

@ADBBuild 3 года назад

Conduit is wet because of warm, damp air inside the conduit, causing water to condense on the inside of the conduit due to the colder ground (and conduit). Romex also shouldn't be used in conduit because the extra insulation in an enclosed space can overheat.

@matticussilverman6179 3 года назад

Things must be different in America, TPS (is that called Romex in the USA?) is fine underground in conduits - it can be rated higher too because the ground is cool and cools the cable.

@markstevens1729 3 года назад

@@matticussilverman6179 I’m in Canada and only single leads can be pulled in outdoor conduit. From the #0 from the pole underground to a #14 for a 15A 125v circuit, only single sheathed strands are permitted in conduit.

@ronblack7870 3 года назад

@@markstevens1729 nec in us is same. romex shouldn't be in conduit due to overheating . but in this case with 12 g wire and only 4 lights i can't see it pulling no 20 amps. or 16 amps either at 80%

@rupe53 3 года назад

@@ronblack7870 ... there may be an outlet on that circuit so if part of the branch is #12 then the rest must also be #12.

@guygrotke8059 3 года назад

It's a bitch to pull Romex through conduit if you have any bends. But in this case, it would be a bitch to pull it out to replace it with THHN, like code requires. Hope it never gets inspected!

@cosmoquinto2765 3 года назад

I like the “get your code book out” pause LOL

@kareltracy 3 года назад

In the house where I grew up from the mid 70's to early 90's, we had tube fluorescents in most rooms. At one point, a red and standard color ring fluorescent were combined to give a more natural light spectrum for one room. We almost never had to replace the fluorescent bulbs.

@zacharythebeau163 3 года назад

What I would recommend for stuff like this is liquid electrical tape it's like glue/silicone but electrically rated and if used right waterproof like heatshrink. I get there is no rating, but a layer if followed by regular electrical tape is vise versa, it's just a nice piece of mind.

@gerrishp22 3 года назад

I have always considered if Romex is listed for use inside conduit? If you only have romex and need to pull it into a pipe then strip the outer jacket. Good video and evaluating the wet location and rating of the wire which should be THWN

@timgraham7851 3 года назад

The previous owner of my house installed a TT-30 receptacle with "Romex" on a 20A breaker. Luckily, he ran it in 1 inch PVC. Ripped it all out and ran proper THWN to a new RV panel. The old ground was nice and green.

@lloydmills9619 3 года назад

That may have been compliant.

@timgraham7851 3 года назад

@@lloydmills9619 Nope. Conduit was underground and NM-B is not rated for "wet" locations. The conductors were also undersized.

@rbryanhull 3 года назад

So a 30a outlet on a 20a breaker. Not so goodly

@timgraham7851 3 года назад

@@rbryanhull Not so good for running AC.

@lloydmills9619 3 года назад

@@timgraham7851 Thats pretty normal on an AC. In fact the MOCP is the breaker size. They dont have to atch on an AAC and usually don't. Its common to see #12 on a 30 Amp breaker or #10 on a 50. The breaker only provides short circuit and ground fault protection in those cases.

@frontiervirtcharter 3 года назад

There's still *one* valid use for incandescent bulbs.. when the heat they give off is actually something worthwhile. EZ-Bake oven for your kid, chicken egg incubator, and maybe for stoplights .. Read something a couple of years ago where a city replaced the bulbs in its traffic lights and had to do an expensive re-engineer because they were getting caked with snow that the bulbs used to melt

@joshuawhite9725 3 года назад

I wired RVs for years, and someone stored our 12/2 Romex outside... I spent 20 minutes diagnosing a hipot fail on a unit, tracked it to a faulty 12/2 running to the second air conditioner, couldn't find anything wrong, ran a new wire. Cut apart the bad wire and all the paper inside was wet. It wicks in moisture like crazy.

@electricaf365 3 года назад

Honestly that wouldn’t cause a problem. Romex gets wet all the time. Doesn’t hurt a thing.

@roycsinclair 3 года назад

No reason for an incandescent bulb? Try putting an LED into your oven. Other than that though, I agree.

@sprockkets 3 года назад

Incandescent? No. But I like Halogen light. Damn hot though. Strip type LED looks cool too, but not the same. LED just doesn't have great looking 3000k light.

@hgbugalou 3 года назад

Point taken, but there are also LED bulbs designed for ovens.

@roycsinclair 3 года назад

@@hgbugalou Nope, there are not. Heat cause LED bulbs to decay. An incandescent bulb is quite happy in all that heat but LEDs are electronics and prefer their heat kept well away from them.

@garyowen201 3 года назад

@@roycsinclair sorry dude. You’re plain wrong. I’m a manager of an Electrical Wholesaler here in The UK. We stock and sell LED lamps for ovens and cooker hoods… very common if you know where to look

@roycsinclair 3 года назад

@@garyowen201 I cannot find them on Amazon AND every article I can find (even written in the last few months) say No WAY! There are some that say "range" but those are NOT for positioning inside an oven since the electronics WILL melt and burn in an oven. In short, provide a link. I wouldn't be totally unhappy to be proven wrong but until I can find one that IS labeled as for use in an oven I'll say you shouldn't even try.

@elc2k385 3 года назад

Ever since I became a 480V member, my muscles have gotten bigger, women are coming up to me and asking me my name, and my hairline has filled in. Thanks, Dustin.

@grandpa6535 3 года назад

Maybe I should try it. Top of my Head looks like I have the mange.

@barryomahony4983 3 года назад

THHN isn't listed for wet locations either, but most are dual-labelled as THWN as well. :)

@marlboromatt5656 3 года назад

As a homeowner I found that out . I searched forever for some THWN at Lowe’s and Homedepot . Even The helpers at the stores always told me they didn’t carry THWN. Then one day I picked up a roll of THHN and read the label and it said also THWN!!!!

@SgtJoeSmith 3 года назад

isnt romex THHN?

@Nunya_Business_ 3 года назад

@@SgtJoeSmith Yes

@SgtJoeSmith 3 года назад

@@Nunya_Business_ thanks. i thought so. im a 30 year fairly experienced novice with automotive and household electrical. im still learning more though.

@mikez4132 3 года назад

@@SgtJoeSmith THHN and THWN are the individual coated conductors for running inside conduit. They dont have the yellow or white sheathing that most assoc with Romex (brand name) or NM (non metallic) cable.

@johnfreisen661 2 года назад

Great video Dustin. The basic principle without all the legal bouncing from page to page in the code is - Non metallic sheath cable (Romex) is a "NON Rated" wire. In damp and wet locations, outside, underground, even in conduit, the wire must be "rated" for that use. Example THWN or XHHW (etc) are examples of rated wires for wet locations. I am so glad that you covered the codes from front to back about this. As so many just say, "but it works"...... my answer is "for now". I am sure that service call, the conduit does not go all the way back and the Romex is exposed to the concrete block and that why you could not pull it out. Seen that so many times from illegal work by patio and BBQ builders installing electrical. Frustrating. Home owners going the cheapest route always cost more in the end.

@946towguy2 3 года назад

Incandescent bulbs are especially useful when running a generator or inverter because they create a resistive load on the system and convert noise into heat.

@grandinosour 2 года назад

I use an incandescent bulb as a poor man's synce light to sync two generators to run in parallel.. An led build will not do this.

@sergeig685 2 года назад

noise into heat? Uhm what?

@946towguy2 2 года назад

@@sergeig685 AC Inverters and generators do not usually produce a perfectly clean and smooth sine wave. If you hook up an oscilloscope to the line and neutral, you will typically see "stair-stepping" , "saw teeth" or noise on the curve Putting a restive load on the generator plays the same role as the fuzzy cover on a microphone or the vibration damper between a motor and chassis. Resistance generates heat, be it a light bulb, a toaster or the brakes on your car.

@sergeig685 2 года назад

@@946towguy2 ah, you did not mean "noise" literally . Yes, incandescents are far less finicky with irregular or unstable power supplies.

@946towguy2 2 года назад

@@sergeig685 What we perceive as sound is oscillations in a medium being picked up by our eardrums. If you converted the oscilloscope output into an audio wave form or connected a speaker coil to the mains you will hear what the ac sounds like. , A true sine wave at 60 hz is just above B1 with 432hz tuning. Impurities in the sine wave will sound like distortion or noise. Adding a resistive load or a ballast can attenuate some of that noise, while smoothing spikes and dips so that there is less risk to sensitive electronics.

@smartchip 3 года назад

In. All my years, never heard of an incandescent bulb causing a short,

@barryomahony4983 3 года назад

Not from a broken filament. But I've had the glass bulb work loose from the edison base, and if someone rotates it bulb, the two conductors can short.

@gtb81. 3 года назад

i have actually had someone tell me they had two high dollar LED bulbs burst into flames, and burn the fixture up

@ScottHz 3 года назад

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shunt_%28electrical%29

@michaelterrell 3 года назад

I got my first car for $50, because of a shorted bulb. The left rear running/brake light bulb had shorted between sections. The left turn signals didn't work, if the running lights or headlights were on. Also, you could turn on the running lights, flip the lever for a left turn and play the radio without a key. It was a '61 Ford Galaxy, with a tube radio, so it quickly discharged the battery. My uncle had taken it to the Ford dealership, and they gave up, so he sold the 10 year old car to my dad. He was really pissed off that I repaired it for 29 cents!The short was between two of the support wires, inside the bulb, and the defective bulb was likely installed by the Ford garage since my uncle wasn't mechanically inclined.

@Nunya_Business_ 3 года назад

New wirenuts and a little noalox or whatever brand you want put inside will prevent the rust, always replace rusty wirenuts. You said it was too much of a PITA to install heat shrink, looked pretty simple too me. If it is too much of a PITA to do it right, don't do it in the first place. Your complacency will get worse, until it bites you, or someone else, in the rear...

@garybrown7044 3 года назад

the simple rule of thumb is never use romex (nm) outside the envelope of a conditioned building. uf cable is approved for wet, damp locations & for direct burial. pvc conduit is also great for outdoor installs. pulling uf cable thru conduit is a lot of work, & unecessary. 3m makes gel filled wirenuts for outdoor use. wirenuts filled with vaseline work good in a pinch. in all my 50+ years as an electrician & electrical inspector, i never had the owner of a high end house wanting to cut corners by using sub-standard wiring practices. the nec, (national electric code) is the minimum standard for wiring. always feel free to go above & beyond the code.

@sylkelster 3 года назад

Heatshrink with heat activated adhesive works well for that. How much moisture will that tape withstand?

@BlownF150 3 года назад

No reason to use incandescent lighting? I can think of lots of reasons ranging from welding rod cabinets, the fact that they aren't as sensitive to power quality issues, they tolerate transients without flickering badly, and in many cases LED bulb driver circuits don't last as long as good heavy-duty incandescent bulbs so it doesn't matter if the LED's themselves have 50,000 hours of life when the circuit board burns out in 2000 hours or less.

@Nunya_Business_ 3 года назад

It is called planned obsolescence. The light bulb companies have been doing it for 100 years. Early incandescents could last over 3000 hours. Sales high first year, sales low second year, bulbs don't last over 1250 hours third year... LED's, boards not designed to last either. Capitalism has its negatives for the consumer, but at least we can buy them. ;)

@MoneyManHolmes 3 года назад

Hi Bob. I have probably a dozen of the first generation LED screw-in bulbs and not a single one has burned out yet. You are correct. The manufacturers started to rig them with cheaper components when they realized they would last practically forever.

@Nunya_Business_ 3 года назад

@@MoneyManHolmes You are a lucky man. Bet they weren't cheap, I still had a lot of fluuorescents when they came out. I don't have any yet. They claimed fluorescents would last as long as 5 incandescents too, another lie. A predictable pattern. I will probably buy some eventually and when the first 2 or 3 die, figure out what the flaw in the circuit is and modify the design and fix them (likely cheap capacitors). Yes, I can, I just don't have a lot of spare time.

@BYENZER 3 года назад

Here here!

@BYENZER 3 года назад

@@electrofrying1685 Which kid? Not exactly clear. Do you mean the RU-vidr speaking, or a commentor?

@mech-a-redneck9745 3 года назад

As a mechanical repair friend of mine would say (Seen it an 100 times) I've seen it a hundred times. Home owner buries 14/2 NMB works until it doesn't.

@glennmanchester9151 3 года назад

I like the chanel. Bro im a plumber by trade started doing that in 84 out of local 77 in Massachusetts then over the yrs due to boredom mostly i worked for a biddy doing residential electrical mostly but between that and what i learned on my own i would like to think im a fair electrician anyhow anytime ive done any job ive passed inspection with flying colors and even had them say wow nice job so and those are the two trades most guys shy away from and i chose them and dove in both feet i tell people yeah you like the way i ran that you should see my plumbing lol it helped with my piping skills being a plumber so lol anyway im watching and enjoying so keeo it going

@electricaf365 3 года назад

Keep in mind that inspectors (for the most part) don’t know jack. I had an inspector ask me why I didn’t use a 10 amp breaker. After doing a service upgrade, I had an inspector tell me I needed a 600 amp service instead of a 150 amp service for a 1300 square foot house with all gas appliances.

@glennmanchester9151 3 года назад

600 amp service ? Lmfao i hear ya but they are not all like that and mostly are retired contractors themselves just trying to.subsidise their retirement income at least here its the case and usually are quite. Knowledgeable .. Maybe some are stuck in the past but most are up on new code stuff such as two ground rods in lieu of the single one for a 200 amp service upgrade here in fla theres a lot on poles that are weatherproof panels and of course meter cans etc that is common setup for mobile homes etc the last one i did the pole. Was so rotted out it was almost falling by itself needless to say it got replaced along w everything attached to it and it lol it had to be 30 yrs old and a clusterfiddle at best

@adamwilliams3673 3 года назад

Any time you tape in an environment like that, you should put a small zip tie on top of the tape. That way the tape stays put even if the adhesive on the tape fails due to heat

@electricaf365 3 года назад

Not a bad idea

@eitankahn9682 3 года назад

If you siliconed around the base of the light it would most likely keep the water out. It is most likely where the water is coming in.

@electricaf365 3 года назад

Water coming in wasn’t the problem

@gurjindersingh199 3 года назад

No matter what you do water will find a way in, not to mention condensation, I know this sounds stupid and it's most likely against code but I always drill small drain holes in my junction boxes, I also always use single conductors suitable for wet locations in conduit

@jkK-lw9lu 3 года назад

@@gurjindersingh199 and grease all outdoor wire nuts with noalox or dielectric grease.

@illestofdemall13 3 года назад

Butt splices also aren't really great for solid conductors so the tape works.

@mattmccaffrey4299 3 года назад

I don't know why anyone would use regular romex in a wet location thinking it would be ok just because it's in conduit. Stuff like that boggles my mind. I have seen regular romex many times just stapled under a deck too for outdoor lights or an outdoor fan. It's crazy.

@electricaf365 3 года назад

And it won’t cause a problem

@scottbishop2532 3 года назад

Anything outside is considered a wet location including in a garage and GFCI protection is code.

@electricaf365 3 года назад

But not for lighting

@audiocarp 3 года назад

@@electricaf365 But, there's at least one outdoor outlet on the same circuit, so a GFCI would be required.

@gregfazenbaker6033 2 года назад

Love your videos... they're not only educational and informational, but entertaining as well. It's nice to see you always referencing code so everyone knows it's not just opinion. Keep em coming! Thanks for all your hard work you put into these videos! 👍

@chrismader3689 3 года назад

I’ve been on a couple “so ready to get out of there” jobs.

@ElectricianU 3 года назад

We all have..."don't hate the player, hate the game" kind of a day lol

@wb5mgr 3 года назад

I’ll open you up to a really good troubleshooting tip for stuff like this If you want to see if you have a shorted line in the ground or if you want to know if you have to start taking fixtures apart. If you go to the hardware store and buy one of those rubberized light sockets this design to hang from the ceiling in a wet environment to screw a bulb into, you know the old-school ones And keep it in your toolbox… If you run into a situation like this and you want an easy way to find a short, what you can do is disconnect the hot lead from the breaker and connect one end of the light socket to the breaker and then wirenut The black wire that you removed from the breaker onto the wire coming off of the portable socket. Then screw in a 60 W incandescent bulb, yes it needs to be incandescent for this purpose LED or CFL will not do. What you are accomplishing by putting the incandescent bulb right at the breaker is basically placing a visiual current limiting resistor at the beginning of the circuit before any short could take place. If that light comes on, that indicates you have a neutral return path either on the neutral or a ground wire back to the panel in some form or fashion. Because electrical current must return to the source in order to complete the circuit for that light to light up. If none of the other lights on the circuit were lighting up before, but this one lights up when you put it in circuit, then logically that would indicate you have an underground short or a short in the wall somewhere in a junction that’s hidden and you’re going to have to investigate.

@newrenewableenergycontrol5724 3 года назад

Buchanan's became my favorite way to put wires together. Sometimes if there were any chance of moisture I could finish the connection by filling it with silicone. Eliminates that corrosion in joints which can drop voltages and heat up which is not good for compressor motors like outdoor refrigerators. Plus if used correctly they will not looses due to vibration. A good hard crimp on the wires insuring mechanical and electrical connections.

@Jason_Van_Stone 3 года назад

I use the newer klein hybrids (grey/black handle)....by far my favorite hand tool. The only negative, is the smallest hole size to strip wire, is 16 awg solid.

@andrewbargo1 3 года назад

Agreed, I finally switched to the hybrids and stopped carrying my linesman and croc jrs in my tool pouch. It's so nice to use one tool for multiple uses. and I can comfortably twist 4 12 ga. wires together to place under a wire nut with the hybrids. so not many applications where I miss carrying the linesman now. I used to be so stubborn about using multi tools. I hated the feel of them. But now that I realize how convenient they are, and my tool pouch is much lighter to carry. Wouldn't have it any other way. I still keep the other tools in the truck just in case lol

@Jason_Van_Stone 3 года назад

@@andrewbargo1 exactly. Was so use to my basic strippers, and having to pull out the linemans, back n' forth. I've been using the hybrids for a couple years now. We call our linemans "the electrician hammer" lmao

@ubersham 3 года назад

Thanks. I love when you go through the code book. It’s extremely educational.

@brucehirsch5437 3 года назад

I don't know. I've used electric tape in cases similar in a pinch when I didn't have heat shrink available. But I like to use heat shrink cause it's thinker and more durable than tape. And you could just slip it over the wire and shove it down to where you need it and just use a heat gun. I find it easier than to use tape in tight areas. I currently work in an industrial setting. I used to work for the power company too around low voltage aswell as high voltage. Mostly 15kv but sometimes transmission lines too which some are even oil cooled!

@xmodusoperandix 3 года назад

million dollar home “this guy doesnt wanna pay to bring this up to code” seems typical too much money spent on the yacht and golf clubs

@calculator1841 3 года назад

That's how they afford the home. Rich people are misers. Poor people spend money on junk food, liquor and cigarettes.

@james10739 3 года назад

I mean he said he would have to cut drywall and that might not help much so it could easily be like $5,000 or $10,000 if they have to break up the foundation and repair which for 4 lights it's just not worth it

@citylockapolytechnikeyllcc7936 3 года назад

@@james10739 Replace with some sort of Solar/Battery powered lighting, if the outlet is not needed. Even if wealthy, homeowner's mason could be 2 years out on availability. I know an ornamental iron guy... no business cards, no van graphics.... he works for 5 families only.... in order..... so your project is likely 1-3 years wait. Wealthy people spend on their own stuff. But busting everything up sucks. If the guy that built that outside space made a plan... (I still have the carpenters drawings of my kitchen. I wish his work was as good as his ability to make renderings). A tradesman who assumes wealthy people do not pay big money for their stuff is a handyman. Identifying the short, and making a temp repair is fine, but I would sell client on the proper fix, if they wanted additional outlets, or wiring to a firepit all as part of a deck renovation. And if the guy is selling the house in a year.... "good 'nuff the girls he goes out with" (Yeah, stole that one from AvE.. he can not sue me, without showing his face! )

@xmodusoperandix 3 года назад

@@SF-tb4kb right 😂 meanwhile insurance low balls or denies every claim of mine...forget taxation insurance is the new scam of the government

@xmodusoperandix 3 года назад

@@SF-tb4kb i just got screwed from the freeze in midwest power and gas cycles controlled outages insurance left me with the damages on busted copper pipes even though it was declared a state of emergency car insurance low balled us on two hail damage claims on brand new vehicles they never notify of lapsed insurance....the list goes on seems more like a scam to me

@butternutsson9403 3 года назад

its going through cement regardless its a wet location water goes through cement, UF is not more costly so, they should have just ran UF

@ftShinanigan 3 года назад

uf is more costly than romex.

@RB-xv4si 3 года назад

It’s definitely more costly but still, yes it should be used to stay code compliant.

@mrseanpride6449 3 года назад

Water goes through cement?

@butternutsson9403 3 года назад

@@mrseanpride6449 asphinctersayswhat?

@ftShinanigan 3 года назад

@@mrseanpride6449 yes

@Ho1yhe11 3 года назад

Uh at -60° incandescents are only beat by metal halide bulbs (which need a ballast) Your LEDs will not light up outside in an Alaskan winter

@mrlescure 3 года назад

Pretty sure he's based in Texas, so probably not something that would cross his mind.

@snap-off5383 3 года назад

This source disagrees: www.hyperikon.com/blog/led-performance-in-cold-hot-temperatures/

@mattolson7037 3 года назад

Not true at all. LEDs actually thrive in cold temperatures. Not sure where you got that information from

@jonsworld5307 3 года назад

this is true for some but if you get name brand the newer one in last few years are better about working in cold

@Ho1yhe11 3 года назад

I live in Alaska the GE brand LEDs starts flickering at about-20 and definitely doesn't turn on once you get to about-30 some of the sensor light LEDs can light up at -35 but at -45 or so none of them work CFLs work but take a long time to "warm up"

@Sam-ey1nn 2 года назад

Putting tape on it definitely seems like a hack, when you know that tape will get inevitably get wet, dry out and fall off and the short will reappear in probably just a few years. You absolutely should've used heat shrinking for a more permanent fix.

@spelunkerd 3 года назад

Thanks for a real world example and your care to check the codes. In my reading of this topic, one of the points brought up was heat dissipation, which is very different when one compares NMWU90 alone vs NMWU90 surrounded by conduit. The extra volume taken up by the cover reduces the volume of air inside the conduit, so the tables for conduit fill would need adjustment. Even though NMWU90 is not designed to be run inside conduit, I would guess that both mechanical and water protection would be better! Around here, inspectors will allow a short run for a few feet, which may help avoid an extra box for transition. The problem in your case was the lack of a plastic bushing and clamp to protect the wires from the sharp edge as they enter each light box.

@electricaf365 3 года назад

A plastic bushing for a plastic pipe?

@bruceanderson9461 3 года назад

@@electricaf365 if the plastic pipe has a sharp bur-round the edge off and you have a bushing

@electricaf365 3 года назад

@@bruceanderson9461 it’s smurf tube bro. There are no sharp edges.

@bruceanderson9461 3 года назад

@@electricaf365 something was sharp-maybe you can tell me what damaged the insulation as it is important to this discussion.

@abdulelkhatib2674 3 года назад

These are my favorite videos along with how to s. Also the way the fixtures are mounted to the pillars is an issue thats probably why its all getting wet. There is no sealant between the base of the fixture and the stone which will let water in.

@cdawg42 3 года назад

Fellow Sparky here. Just ordered my 2020 code book. Long overdue so thank you Dustin.

@ElectricianU 3 года назад

Hell ya my friend, enjoy reading...lol...though to be honest, you may get more enjoyment out of biting your own arm off 🤣

@richardrussell4288 3 года назад

DO YOU KNOW IDEAL SAYS NOT TO TWIST WIRES WITH PLIERS THIS LETS NUTS COME LOOSE NUT IS TO TWIST WIRES AT LEAST 3 TURND OF WIRE TO PASS INSPECTION THIS COME FROM SALES REP AND THERE INSTRUCTIONS . CHIGAGO LICENCED ELECTRIAN 40 YRS Have found many loose nuts on wires were twisted with pliers .

@ScottHz 3 года назад

@@richardrussell4288 I don’t get why you’d twist with pliers first, it’s a waste of time, when the wire nuts twist them for you (in addition to your reasoning).

@audiocarp 3 года назад

@@richardrussell4288 interesting! So many people twist beforehand with the lineman's pliers. Of course, if you overdo the twisting, it creates metal fatigue and weakens the splice. At the other extreme, I've seen wire nuts that weren't torqued enough to keep them in-place over time. I prefer the wire nuts with two wings which gives you more leverage. Afterwards, I tug on the individual wires to make sure they're not loose. Some people wrap tape over the wire nut, which I think is overkill.

@Veritas-invenitur 3 года назад

I have a box of Red, Black, and white 120c 500v double wall glue heat shrink for just this type of situation. I find myself using it far more than I should have too.

@heynow7363 3 года назад

Been working 13 hours today and come home and watch this. Ha. You give good advice and troubleshoot well. Had a job where the concrete guy and carpenter got together (you know where this is heading) to install floor receptacles in New deck addition. Hmm. Let's use steel bx in direct burial in dirt and concrete, with no fittings, into metal gangable boxes, and cover with a wp cover. Lasted 4 months. Then he calls me, his regular electrician. He's still waiting on me 2 months later. Last of list you go. I was thinking your job install looked about 10 years old then you said it. I really should record what I do, too. Sometimes the first line item on invoice should read "#1 Looked for weird shit.", as you said! How many times I've come to troubleshoot and a store owner says they already checked '_____' and that is exactly where fault is. The light bulb shorting you said...many electricians don't even know this. Keep doing what you do!

@nhtom8 3 года назад

When replacing the fixture on the stub, why no caulking or sealant? Maybe even a gasket or O ring. Just throwing it back on seems like you're asking for trouble.

@UCCLdIk6R5ECGtaGm7oqO-TQ 3 года назад

Seals are often imperfect in operation and frequently have the opposite effect where water will make its way in but then cannot get out. You'll often find that occur where a seal edge at the top of a luminaire or enclosure exposed to rain fall will seep water through over time due to tiny dirt particles gradually working their way into the seal creating a path for water to seep through. This then presents a problem as, once water has gotten past the seal and into the enclosure, it'll flow down onto a bottom edge seal and remain stuck there unable to drain away as the internal bottom seal is invariably much cleaner having never been exposed to the elements. So the solution to this is to always give water a means to escape once inside an enclosure, which could mean having no seal on a bottom edge, drain holes, or it simply by leaving it open to the outside world.

@nhtom8 3 года назад

@@UCCLdIk6R5ECGtaGm7oqO-TQ It sounds like you're going to have trouble no matter what so you should just make the best of it by allowing for faults - and not using BX in those instances.

@davidfstanford 3 года назад

I wire however I feel like. My house hasn't caught fire since it was rebuilt from catching on fire last time, so it should be ok.

@TonySteinbach 3 года назад

😂😂😂

@michaelrice500 3 года назад

"People who live in asbestos houses shouldn't . . . . " Never mind; carry on!

@jkK-lw9lu 3 года назад

@@michaelrice500 throw hammers or hatchets!😭

@ryanstanulis 3 года назад

I would've taped the wire in this situation as well, but did you really not replace the wire nuts with news ones? Also make sure to cut the ends and strip again for fresh splice. Great video though. Thumbs up

@rotohcf1400 3 года назад

When you said "Stripper lineman's pliers" the picture that popped in my head... oh gawd.

@barryomahony4983 3 года назад

1:05 Googling says either "stem" or "arbor"

@CrimeVid 3 года назад

If I have to tape something up outdoors or where it’s wet I use self amalgamating tape. if it has to be colour indicated I wrap over it.

@lourias 3 года назад

Code is also ambiguous regarding wiring for pool equipment.... For instance, the wiring from a pump motor to a timer. Even though that tubing is "sealed", that tubing can break, resulting in a wet environment.

@chargermopar 3 года назад

If govenments use these code books for inspections they should be available freely online so installers know what the requirements are.

@NCLUSA 2 года назад

I worked for 38 years as a construction electrician, I started wiring houses, I wired over 250 homes, most were very large homes, and then I went into doing commercial work, I have worked on some very big projects, airports, hospitals, Schools prisons jails and some very large buildings, so I have a good idea of how things work. What kills me is how a lot of people just don't understand how much WORK goes into doing electrical work?, it's really hard work you must work in all kinds of places and conditions, AND!!!, people don't seem to understand why Electrical work is so expensive, just go out and buy a bag of wire nuts today and you will see why it cost so much. I do my own work at home/farm today and just to add a few plugs and switches will cost a few hundred dollars even if I do it myself ) : ?

@J_M3444 2 года назад

A bag of wire nuts in my neck of the woods is $140. I’m sorry but that makes me Sick to my stomach

@john_thorpe 3 года назад

"What is it, comment below?" It's called a filament and it's made of tungsten.

@zacharythebeau163 3 года назад

He's talking about the post that the filaments hang from.

@willmcgo8288 3 года назад

The tungsten filaments are connected to lead-in or contact wires, that come in through the stem. There are also support wires coming from the stem to support longer filaments. The lead-in wires are often connected to the terminal contacts by fuse lead in wires, most of you can guess what those might be for.

@sailingsolar 3 года назад

@@SF-tb4kb Even with abuse that won't blow a typical lighting circuit breaker. Those tiny leads inside a bulb would vaporize carrying a 15 amp/115vac (1725 watt) feed if they touched. He's in lala land thinking (saying) they could blow a breaker and not burn up and blow open. Whatever!

@eclectichoosier5474 3 года назад

@@zacharythebeau163 The posts that hold the filaments, I have always called "stand-offs." There might be a technical name for them, but any time it comes up in conversation (not very often) people know what I mean.

@bgpwrddy 3 года назад

@@zacharythebeau163 it's the Filament Support

@bobniles1928 3 года назад

Repeatedly tripping the breaker for fault locating is not a good practice. Disconnect the hot and neutral at the breaker panel and use a meter to fault locate.

@electricaf365 3 года назад

🤣🤣🤣 guys with minimal experience crack me up

@bobniles1928 3 года назад

If you mean me, I am an EE and held an electrical contractors license. Repeated tripping a breaker weakens it and can be a causd of a future failure.

@electricaf365 3 года назад

@@bobniles1928 EE’s are worthless.

@bobniles1928 3 года назад

You shooting for the position of top troll?

@electricaf365 3 года назад

@@bobniles1928 you’re no contractor

@seanclark8452 3 года назад

You had access to the end of the wire. Use some heat shrink tubing over slid over the end! No tape glue to fail. Tape it after if you want...

@lw7238 3 года назад

Lets see. Heat shrink tubing. Or sorry we have to try and pull new wires if we can and if not replace all the cable for about thousand dollars if not more. Home owner, heat shrink the wire.

@a.t.7021 3 года назад

Definitely more repair videos like this would be great. I appreciate all you do. Many thanks!

@alangivens7983 3 года назад

You just got yourself another 1000V member. Me and my guys LOVE your content, keep up the great work.

@frrapp2366 3 года назад

while not a licensed electrician i do most of my own and the family's wiring needs the wildest system i ever worked on was in an old church in Mexico ; the fuse box was in upside down( fuse was live all the time), the wiring to the chandeliers was lamp cord and were 20 feet up and we didn't have a ladder that would reach!!! So we nailed 2x4s to the straight ladder put 2 ropes on and 4 guys holding the ropes while i went up to wire in the lights . I did make them pull the meter to turn the fuse box right side up tho!!!! One of the coolest things that we did was run electric up to the stage/ pulpit area , the building was originally a sugar cane plant and made of 3 FEET thick blocks of limestone . To hide the conduit we cut a grove in the wall with a circular saw and a carbide blade. The conduit was held in with nails driven in a V over it and then plastered over. But the conduit bulged out some (roll pipe ) and we were having trouble getting it to stay in. An older man came over and showed us (we didn't speak Spanish and he didn't speak English), he picked up a trowel full of mortar, bobbed it up and down a couple of times to settle it and then swung it to splat right in the grove! the pipe was sucked in to the grove and we just had to smooth the top over a bit. The Moral of the story we Both learn some new things

@flick22601 3 года назад

They make specialized incandescent bulbs for rough service and long life. Many municipalities use them for street lights and I use them in my drop lights (which are seldom used anymore). Also used on board ships and large equipment.

@Recovering_Californian 3 года назад

What LED brand actually lasts more than a couple years?? I've used various name brand LED bulbs and while the LED component itself will last thousands of hours the power supply inside the bulb doesn't. I replace LED bulbs nearly as often as incandescent.

@jonsworld5307 3 года назад

same or in some cases quicker

@MoneyManHolmes 3 года назад

Get some Broada bulbs that say “23 years” on the box. They were originally given out by electric companies and paid for by subsidies, or however that works. They can be found easily on flea bae. I’m going to delete this comment after you see it so my secret doesn’t get out to everyone.

@calmeilles 3 года назад

Philips does. But you're not allowed to buy them. Unless you live in Dubai where they're pretty much all you can buy. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-klaJqofCsu4.html

@ScottHz 3 года назад

@@calmeilles yeah, made special for the Prince. Loved the video on those from ru-vid.com

@drescherjm 3 года назад

I don't think I have ever had a led bulb fail. Although I am only talking about 2 houses the house I live in and a rental and a period of less than 10 years.

@Angelic_Reaper 3 года назад

On the topic of incandescent lighting, what about when you have really old wiring (original wiring in a house built in 72) and LED flickers in every socket, but incandescent works perfectly fine. Any thoughts on the cause? My best guess is voltage or amperage fluctuation within the wiring

@dustintunis9347 3 года назад

Have you checked the voltage? With how little power LEDs use, amperage wouldn't be an issue. I don't know how to test it, but it should be 120ish volts @ 60hz, maybe it's not at 60hz and that's effecting the LEDs. Hopefully somebody with more expertise will chime in.

@J_M3444 2 года назад

Also if you have any dimmer switches that are original to the incandescent bulbs that will cause a flicker, they are not rated for LED bulbs

@robertthompson3447 2 года назад

Voltage may be too high.

@RB-xv4si 3 года назад

When I was doing service, a lot of electricians I worked with liked to pull Romex from the hand hole of a pole light to the fixture just because it was easier than pulling individual conductors. One of them was even a master electrician. Somehow it didn’t occur to them that they could use cable and stay code compliant if they just used UF cable.

@andyandy4459 3 года назад

In reality it'll work fine as long as it's protected from UV sunlight. And Romex is much easier to strip than UF.

@RB-xv4si 3 года назад

@@andyandy4459 this is not really the forum for hacks. Are you lost?

@electricaf365 3 года назад

@@RB-xv4si well he’s right. And the insulation on the UF doesn’t have the same ambient temperature rating as romex or THWN. It will crumble with the heat from the metal halide or high pressure sodium lights. Nowadays with everything going to LED, it’s probably not a problem anymore. Oh, and I’m a master electrician and I’ve done it before.

@RB-xv4si 3 года назад

@@electricaf365 thwn is fine for wet locations but it’s not ok to run into an HPS or MH fixture because it’s only rated 75*C. You need to splice to higher rated conductors prior to entering the fixture. Same goes for UF cable. Ok to run until you get to the pole light fixture. Congratulations on being a master electrician. I’m a journeyman.

@electricaf365 3 года назад

@@RB-xv4si which means nothing by the way. Being a journeyman. Being a master electrician. Means nothing. A well trained monkey could become either if those.

@billycroan2336 3 года назад

Why were you using fault current as a test method to know if the short was still present. Wouldn't it be safer and less likely to cause damage to use a multimeter in continuity beep mode? Possibly more convenient too, since you can then touch it and work on it without going back and forth to the breakers and hear the buzzer at a distance.

@steve-o6413 3 года назад

It probably didn't make difference if it was Romex or even direct burial cable the original electrician probably cut into the wire while stripping the outer sheath of the Romex or that jagged cut of the PVC cut into the unprotected wire once the sheathing was removed. Wires move everytime a current is produced so I would have tried to put a plastic bushing of some sort on the conduit...

@heynow7363 3 года назад

I'm gonna need some documentation on that last statement. This is not fluid dynamics, you know.

@steve-o6413 3 года назад

@@heynow7363 if you ever seen a downed Power line dance like a Snake it's because of a extreme current flow to ground. This is a exaggerated version of what is happening inside a conduit everytime a current is generated. Usually so miniscule it's almost undetectable, but this why when wires leaving a ridged conduit, a plastic bushing is required...

@electricaf365 3 года назад

@@heynow7363 it does vibrate a little bit under load

@mokeman3 3 года назад

BINGO !! - BING-Fricken-OOOO! The guy is a CLOWN to state that the PVC insulation on the (red) wire in the Romex "breaks down if sitting in water". That is utter BS considering that the high pressure water in house, sprinkler systems, and other WATER delivery systems are made OUT of the same PVC that makes up the insulation in the Romex. I absolutely HATE people in RU-vid videos who make uneducated, ignorant, and false/misleading claims! He needs to update the video and state this very important correction! Also, the dad give-away of the 'cut insulation' evidence mentioned here, is the "green" corrosion seen on the wires.

@jkK-lw9lu 3 года назад

@@steve-o6413 so using a plastic bushing according to nec is good, but using romex outdoors (against nec) is ok?

@realityquotient7699 3 года назад

In 53 years I have had ZERO incandescent bulbs short out and the only time I've had a bulb shatter is when the bag it was in got tossed into the trash. Never mind the fact that non-incandescent light is frankly crap.

@lw7238 3 года назад

LED's never last as long as they should. Crappy color on them also.

@realityquotient7699 3 года назад

@@lw7238 I know it many not bother many if not most people, but I can see the 60hz flicker in non-incandescent lighting.

@lw7238 3 года назад

@@realityquotient7699 Not me, that's too bad. Does it bother you or do you try to ignore it.

@realityquotient7699 3 года назад

@@lw7238 It just causes eyestrain. I do note that LEDs have been improving in that regard, they don't flicker nearly as bad as they used to. The light is still not as pleasant as incandescent though, and the best incandescents are the halogen bulbs.

@lw7238 3 года назад

@@realityquotient7699 That's too bad about the flickering for you, I never knew that this problem ever existed.

@samjones1954 3 года назад

FYI - my years of tracing building intercom and fire alarm circuits.. I would like to pass this on to you. I would have gone first to the middle fixture, then ohmed it back to the panel and the other way. which ever way you find the problem, then go half way again, that way. When you have 200 fixtures connected to one zone, this approach saves a lot of time. I saw you went to the first fixture. You would have been better off at the middle one first..same outcome, but closer to the problem.

@electricaf365 3 года назад

Isn’t that what he just said? Start in the middle and cut the circuit in half?

@samjones1954 3 года назад

@@electricaf365 must have missed that

@imark7777777 3 года назад

Fun fact in my lifetime I have never had an incandescent bulb short as far as I can remember except for the Christmas tree style micro bulbs. I've had the filament break and make contact then incinerate but always blow clear. There is a couple of useful remaining of the incandescent bulbs, heat it's a very efficient way of providing a little heat like say to keep a well house warm to prevent freezing or to keeping traffic lights clear of ice and snow... Technology connections... And I generally prefer them for outside lights. The market should be adopting LED, we shouldn't be forced to adopt them.

@billmccluskey6294 3 года назад

Was wondering what the code book said about this at the time of installation. Codes are constantly changing.

@jasonj4865 3 года назад

Its a gray area always has been. IMO Romex in outdoor conduit is just sloppy always has been. It ends up getting stuck way more often than thhn, that's the real issue in the damp location. Dudes light shorted out because sloppy work with a razor knife and the wire is now stuck in the conduit. Guess it's Jack hammer time. Romex gets wet for long periods it becomes sticky add the smurf tube and its basically fused in the conduit.

@jameskaten8291 3 года назад

NM cable has never been listed for use in wet locations.

@jkK-lw9lu 3 года назад

@@jasonj4865 smurf tube wasn’t even invented

@jasonj4865 3 года назад

@@jkK-lw9lu not following. Are you saying smurf tube didn't exist when the code was written? My point is simply whether or not it is permissible by code it falls outside of best practices.

@jkK-lw9lu 3 года назад

@@jasonj4865 1980 was when smurf tube was listed, and has never been listed for outdoor locations

@j.james.s.2412 3 года назад

It's called a filament.

@matthewperlman3356 2 года назад

I am curious what your thoughts are on using liquid electrical tape for a situation like this instead of regular electrical tape? I frequently use the liquid electrical tape for insulation damage repair in low voltage applications with good results, but I don't know if it would be exceptable in an application like this.

@juana.2745 3 года назад

I never really had anyone teach me how to troubleshoot in the right way, just a lot of error eventually turned into a streak of success. When you understand how the electricity moves, when you see the dumbest little things lead to the trips and the funky voltages, and if you get sent to a lot of troubleshooting calls, eventually all decent electricians will naturally go into doing exactly what he documents in the video. I wish this type pf content was more widely available a few years ago, this is good stuff.

@jmarino715 3 года назад

Couldn't you just go to the end of each run and butt splice new cable that's the proper type to the old preinstalled cable to pull the new cable through at the source of the run?

@jmarino715 3 года назад

@@Californians_go_home It's run through conduit. I'd say that would be super-easy to fish a new cable through. Honestly, just putting the wires together and wrapping with tape could even work. I only mentioned a butt splice to prevent snags.

@16vSciroccoboi 3 года назад

@@jmarino715 never going to work. It's Romex in pipe that's been sitting for years. You'd probably give a tugger a workout a that point. And when your tape or butt splice comes undone halfway through the pipe you'll really be having fun

@MrLectric 3 года назад

The ending tho!!!..😂🤣😂🤣 SUPER EPIC!!!!..😂😂🎯💪🏾💯

@nobadmojo70 3 года назад

Good to see you! The video was great in both content and quality. Regarding the conduit, Ryan Jackson says the conductor is rated for what it is rated for. The conduit doesn't do anything to change what the conductor (or cable) is rated for. Once again thank you for the great content. I really enjoyed the service call edition with code reference. Take care.

@bluegizmo1983 3 года назад

Tells us not to ever use incandescent lights. Uses an incandescent light for the turn on reveal at 21:00 😂

@lw7238 3 года назад

HA HA Incandescent are great to use in specific locations. I'll take them over LED's in most situations.

@luisloya1120 2 года назад

That was actually an LED specialty lamp.

@MausSpaece 3 года назад

Was that tape rated for a wet/damp environment? I would much rather have heat shrink tubing.

@ronblack7870 3 года назад

do both , tape first that way the heat shrink can't slip off after hot cold cycles of weather

@lauram5905 3 года назад

I'm an armchair enthusiast so I'm talking from a place of ignorance, don't they have heat shrink tubing with a little bit of silicone in it for weatherproofing splices? I swear I've heard that somewhere.

@andrewb6 3 года назад

The glass 'rod' is often called the stem. The two filament end support wires can be called lead-in wires. The rest of the support wires are, well, support wires. Thanks for the great videos!

@rebus570 3 года назад

The only thing I would have done is fill my wire nuts up with noalox before assembly, it prevents the rusting inside & water proofs joint then tape up wire nut to wire, have used this on sign lighting where j box is buried at sign & underground splice boxes, it last forever.