Fake money,fake education,politics,history,food....something of a fakeocracy we inhabit these days it's becoming more apparent, why would music be exempt i guess ?
I remember reading how Barbra Streisand once complained about her recording being manipulated by the engineers and demanded that they restore her original work (they removed the sound of her inhaling during a song).
This. The really great singers didn't care about pitch correctness. Quite to the contrary; their pitch being all over the place was consider "character" and if they performed live, they had good, bad and mediocre concerts, depending on how they felt that evening.
Freddie Mercuty predicted it; "We are in a golden age of music. There will be a time when technology becomes so advanced that we'll rely on it to make music rather than raw talent...and music will lose its soul." He was right. Dua Lipa - as good as she might be - doesn't tick any boxes for me.
Fil, you are a voice in the wilderness... I decided a long time ago to forget modern music...the public gets what the public wants, let 'em get on with it...
Very thorough analysis of Dua Lipa's vocal sounds. I agree pitch correction stiffles the personality and originality of the individual's voice. The natural voice is what makes me feel the performance and moves me in a way that doesn't happen when altered. Great information, Fil. 🎼🎸🤘
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People today do not care, they have no interest in musicians and the skills required to be a top pro. I cannot admire people, who cannot stand and deliver, without software. It is manipulated and looses what I personally love about the real live performance.
People never cared much about the top20 top40, but people who are more interested than average in music have never gone anywhere, it`s just that the crap is so easily available that it`s easy to not see the greatness that is truly out there.
Agreed, and it’s not just the vocals that are manipulated. It seems that gone are the days where artists have to be talented. It’s a real shame that we are now at the point where we question whether we are listening to a real voice. I’d rather the odd imperfection as this is what makes for a more human experience.
When I was first developing my voice, I found a video by a young woman who had singing on pitch as #6 in order of importance. To me it seems like #1, and now four years later I have no problem singing on pitch. People need to just do it.
@@jamesfarrow6752 It has never been more competitive to be hired as a professional musician. We are constantly compared (in competition) with 100% accurate machines and software. When I entered the music business in the late 70’s most musicians could play one instrument to a decent level in one genre. Contemporary musicians are multi-instrumentalists, also skilled in composing, computer technology. There really is no ‘cheating’ it is just an arguably misguided idea that ALL imperfections however slight should be corrected.
Lovely analysis of the tell-tale signs of multiple video takes, Fil. Even better is your explanation of the implications. 👍👍 Best Wishes. ☮ It drives me a bit nuts when people miss the obvious clues of multiple takes. For example cuts which must show another camera in view milliseconds before the cut if it were one take. Keep up the great work!
Analogue can be manipulated, too. It's just not as convenient as with a DAW and plugins. You might be surprised to see (with your eyes) how many edit splices exist in classical and jazz recordings. Often it was to combine the best parts of multiple takes into a complete recording, but what you heard on the record was not a continuous single performance.
One thing that cannot be pitch corrected is the natural reverb of a live space. It does not matter how many shots or takes are used for a“ Live “ video acapella. The second video can easily be considered as having been electronically given a studio reverb, as she is in a confined “dead” space. With such it can be inferred that it has also been pitch corrected.
It is similar to photoshopping models. You know, early on pictures would be retouched-the errant hair would be removed or a shadow, or red eye, or a blemish would be smoothed out. Now the architecture of the face or body will be redone. No normal human could achieve this because NOT EVEN THE MODEL CAN!!!
Only partially true. I read this great article on a record producer from the 70s who was known for mixing/mastering live albums, and his main point in the article?? Live albums (even from the 70s) were rarely entirely live. Almost always something was re-recorded to make the album sound better, and therefore be more sell-able. It was (even then) about making some bucks.
@@ProckGnosisI think it was a little off, what was done is songs from different performances possibly at the same venue were combined to form the best album possible. Which can be considered a little deceptive, then again maybe some were being very deceptive.
@@Firemedic361 Trust me, they do everything from punch ins to full track replacements. The recording is a commercial endeavor, not an art work (although it represents the art of its creators).
Well... kinda, mostly, and it's a human thing, I think. It's in our nature to use all our senses and vision tends to be above hearing in the hierarchy. IMNSHO music performances come in one of 3 primary settings: recital, concert, and show. Recital is a direct, live, proximate performance static lighting, no video walls, and in many cases no electronic amplification; it's 100% "real." Concerts are live performances of works that will include non-music elements to enhance the listener experience or the storytelling of the music - wardrobe changes, "artful" lighting and video, electronic amplification with various effects to duplicate things from the studio recording, and electronic playback to fill in parts for which there are no live musicians. Show is just that - it's about what you see, first, and then what you hear, and it's more TV/video/movie production values than a concert, but the primary emphasis is on the whole experience rather than just the performance of the music. Carrie Underwood's flying (above the audience) pickup truck, Bon Jovi's video robots, (name I cant say due to NDAs) visual gag of "flying" from the "B stage" back to the main stage, lots and lots of video that ties directly with the live performance, etc. This includes star vocal and instrumental tracks as well as additional performance tracks (additional parts, effects, musician replacement) because "hey, we're puttin' on a show here!" If that means the audience hears an enhanced or recorded music performance from the star or other performers, that means the audience gets their show free of certain defects. Broadway has done this for years, and I can say with certainty that live music performances have done so for close to 40 years. From the up-front, like The Who having the tape machine on stage for Baba O'Reilly to Boston hiding the tape machine with its subsequent failure exposing their early formation as mostly a mime act.
Thanks for your analysis and passion for real voices and artistry in music and vocals. It is precisely the human-ness that makes music and performances beautiful and compelling. People need to realize how much music is now processed and manipulated.
I guess this is why I prefer singers prior to 2000. I grew up in the 60s and 70s, and that's still my favorite era. However, I also love 80s music and music from the 40s on because it isn't manipulated. I'm hearing raw talent.
I don’t think the obsession of viewing everything through the lense of talent alone is useful. I’d be willing to some of those singers you’d name wouldn’t have a great voice ‘technically’. Surely the songs themselves and how they’re delivered counts for more than just ‘talent’.
You’re awesome Phil. My Mom who passed in 2020, used to tell me continuously through my upbringing….” Don’t believe everything you hear and only half what you hear” nowadays it would be……Don’t believe nothing you hear or see.
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I would have sworn that this is auto tuned. It’s got that weird, echoey, slightly robotic sound. It is awful, whether it’s her natural voice or not. Addit: Okay, I misunderstood the time stamp that said “real”. It is auto tuned. My ears were right.
Maybe the songs become awful when used to showcase the singer's talent! Where is the song in all that 'technique'? Self-conscious 'perfection' precludes emotion. It all seemed to start with Mariah showing off her range. It was neither playful nor emotional -like it is when MJ does it.
Yes we may say that hah. And maybe also if you can't sing naked or without pitch correction or backing track of vocal you should NOT be allowed to call it a LIVE performances and charge insanely high prices for it...maybe we could say that?!
So, as a Vocalist who HATES auto tune and pitch correction and learned to sing from the greats, I have a question. Do online platforms like RU-vid apply their OWN pitch correction? Or is it possible to be an artist who does not use any pitch correction in today's day and age? Also, as a side note, I'd love to see an analysis of P!nk's voice live and in studio recordings. She has a lot of texture and personality to her voice, so I would be curious to see if/how much of her work is pitch corrected and how much is raw. I wouldn't be surprised if she uses pitch correction, but I also think she has so much texture present in her performances that pitch correction might strip that I'd be curious to see how 'processed' her work is. Thanks for another awesome vid! ❤🎵🎶❤ Raw vocals forever!!! 🤘🤘
Dua on tiny desk is off the chain. Her voice shines and is on point. I can't say for sure if it is or isn't pitch corrected. Elton John performs live with her and enough said. Love her brassiness, her voice is great, different, exciting. ❤
This is why I adore music from the 30s and other eras because its amazing real talent none of this false pitch correction just pure beauty, and as someone who was in a band as a singer I often started to compare myself to these pitch corrected singers until I started to learn how to produce and use a large arsenal of tools but it totally disillusioned me and I stopped with music now I just sing around the house and in the car. No one cares about real voices anymore or unique voices or skilled and honed voices. Well except the amazing followers here. Its sad what the world has become. Thanks for keeping it real mate x
Don't give up singing! Have a listen to Lisa O'Neill's Tiny Desk concert and read some of the comments there. She sounds like no one else, and her whole ethos is about connecting with the earth and with her ancestors, so there's no trickery. The comments there and the appreciation are wonderful and heartening 😊 Listening to her and others like Ren Harvieu has given me more confidence in my own singing. I don't listen to any of this mainstream rubbish 😂
Fil, keep it going! I have no doubt you will accomplish your goal in this world of pitch correction, auto tune, and misinformation from the music industry! Very informative analysis video! 💜
The beauty and/or curse of digital media is that it is dirt cheap. You are not dealing with actual physical media (tape, film, etc.), so it costs nothing but labour to shoot/record multiple takes and edit it together seamlessly. And never mind the saving in distribution costs. Problem comes when "producers" think the market wants this flawless, soulless, hit all the right notes and beats programmed, and pass that off as music, and it becomes a self-generating nightmare.
it is the public itself that is to blame, they accept everything, have very little knowledge. do not seem to care. it sounds so extremely the same to me, almost every artist. i mostly listen to old live concerts, past century.
I think most of the commenters here missed the point. I remember watching Adam Neely where he put voices of people like Aretha Franklin through melodyne. They were pitchy af yet people now are trying to be smartasses with comments like "modern singers suck cause they can't hit a note to a cent" while it's pretty much impossible to do that. Dua sounds great and it's what Fil said at the end in the video: singing and looking at the graph can be soooo misleading and tricky. We're not robots and slight inconsistencies can actually sound cool, give character and portray emotion. Also if you want to be technical, how much cents above and below the note is actually not on pitch anymore? If it sounds good, then it sounds good, even if it happens to be 5 or 7 cents off. There's also quite a few acoustic performances here with a guitar and people often don't realize that guitars aren't always perfect either when it comes to intonation - when you sign you adjust your vocals to the accompaniment that you have and so sometimes when isolated it might be slightly off on the pitch analyzing software but with the guitar it sounds perfect cause both are in tune relative to each other. Just a few thoughts.
Agree. One thing that annoys me is how people love to whinge but without any humility. This becomes the industry standard because of us and the expectations we have from our music. I personally don’t care for the obsessive attention to detail about intonation and stuff like that but the reality is most of us do.
One more thing - it’s not just ‘close enough’ when a real voice doesn’t hit the note according to A=440 on the equal tempered scale. It’s also a characteristic of individual voices that do it, to be higher or lower than ‘the line’ a certain way. And even then, a ‘perfect’ voice may not hit the line based on the pure value of the note. If there are no other instruments tuned to equal temperament for example. Maybe it’s just drums and voice, or a guitar with sweetened tuning, or strings. Now, you can actually use pitch correction software to allow for this but it’s a hell of a lot more work and the standard appears to be everything equal temperament and that’s what people are now used to. I remember when we used to tweak the pitch manually, when computer editing started in about 91-92, long before the specialised software. Of course, you could only deal with obvious and clearly delineated notes. When the first software turned up (IIRC it was Antares Autotune but now it’s everywhere, including as standard features of audio workstation software.
Hi Fil, Interesting analysis on Dua Lipa’s vocals. I’m going with mostly pitch corrected on her songs. I feel I can hear a lot of processing going on. And her voice has no substance. It’s all the same sound/tone… and her diction/enunciation is not very clear or convincing. Yes, she did have some bits of good singing but questionable at best. That said she is beautiful. does have some catchy songs and is a good dancer. Thanks Fil, for looking at her voice. Nice job! Debbie☮️
@@debbier938, I hear weird artifacts, as if she’s using an auto tuned microphone. Her voice is all echoey sounding. Was that you I replied to on JHRA’s video of the anthem fiasco? I stopped replying on that thread because a troll broke the conversation.
Hi Fil, Thank you for this interesting and informative analysis! It's a darn shame that today's music has been reduced to the tune of pitch correction. No more real voices, feelings, and emotions! SMH! On a better note, Congrats on getting 393k subscribers on your channel! Keep on rockin'! 😉👍
i love your videos, but i'm seriously concerned about someone in the industry (the people behind the artists you talk about) ruining your career or your youtube channel, or even your life? so thank you so much for keeping up with your content, cause i haven't seen anyone talk about this with so much accuracy and knowledge
Great video! So important to criticise pitch correction without criticising the singer, and you did that beautifully. Don't hate the player, hate the game!
That statement ("Don't hate the .." 🙄🙄🤦) is utter bullpuckey: Without "players" there IS no game! Period. Everyone allowing, causing or ignoring "wrong" is: guilty. CAN be called-out & criticized for it and, absolutely, deserves it! Go tell your friends (and everyone who's, ever, asserted that trope and quoted that idiocy to you. They, WITHOUT QUESTION, do not understand what they're talking about and THINK that they 🤷🤷(🤦) "sound wise" (🙄), or something, but: are utterly in error, on that!
@@SonicProfessor_a.k.a._T._Andra It's a metaphor. It means it's better to criticise (and seek to change) the system, not the people who have to operate within it. If Fil had spent this whole video laying into Dua Lipa, he'd have just pissed off the very people he's trying to educate.
@@Tanzi24 I wasn't attempting to argue that he "should have." No. Your concluding statement is very accurate. ...However: in the sense of: active steps to consider: one can NEVER "change a system" without altering the: behavior, thinking, 🤷🤷 who can say, exactly, what else (as I am forced to broadly generalize, here)🤷?, of those operating the system and within the system. Without that: no useful change will occur (only alterations of the prior practices to maintain the same-or very similar-function). I am (I think: CLEARLY!🤷) discussing: NOT this video or the persons in it, specifically! I am theorizing regarding: the postulates you have delineated/mentioned. I am not speaking about: Fil, here. At all. Nor am I speaking about Dua Lipa. ...what I am addressing is: the ineptitude of the phrase you presented (although, also: you made a clear and useful argument. If, both, the statement were treated as you explain and the resulting behavior were over 65% similar, even ...I think I could agree. ...however: as I am going to assume you well-know: an all-too-vast swath of humanity, neither do nor would operate that way (without manipulation, force or reward/punishment). ...and: regardless of what the system is we may be discussing/applying this to?: again: if the thinking and (thereby) the behavior (or: vice-versa, indeed!) of: those maintaining the operation of any given system/the functional perpetuation of such, are NOT changed, "the system" (whatever it may be) will not change; despite: force, power. manipulation, etc., et al.!! It will work its way back to maintaining a status quo which keeps the same results recurring. While not every party is "a direct cause" of this, without them assisting in: maintaining operation or accepting all that "comes with," the system could not, easily, maintain its continuity nor keep producing the same results. You see this, don't you? While perhaps negative criticism of "those within" does little to help change (esp. if one does not go to work upon the parameters, controls, what-have-you, of said system (and begin enforcing penalties for ill behavior or manipulation of elements (controlling behavior of others. absolutely, included)!),), it, also, is necessary and easier to effect change: on limited divisions or elements and to force rehaul of a system by causing dysfunction from within\and/or: impermissibility of continuing maintenance of corruption or purposeful error. BOTH are necessary.
Given how the industry now works, I do wonder if She knows? How many artists believe their own hype not realising processing was put over their voice. So many of the bigger chart artists just roll up and do the take then leave the studio for other work, leaving stuff for the producers and engineers to work on.
@@FSHB have you thought about your comment. These "artists" dont know. Its like Rhianna and her Sony c800 mic - they think its just the professional recording chain.
@@Fl4ppersJust because *you* are only just learning about this, doesn't mean that artists who have been in the industry for over a decade are somehow unaware of this stuff. They work with high-level producers in studio and live, and they absolutely need to be *very* aware of these processes because they have to work with different variations of pitch correction technology, sometimes unable to use those technologies. You don't get to be a good singer like Dua is without having a *very* well-tuned ear; she can hear this stuff better than you can by orders of magnitude. She knows far better than anyone else would.
@@keithklassen5320 thats for that BIZARRE bloody comment. I've been an amateur musician and engineer for 30 years. I have met people who sing who do not realise it is a thing. The industry just refers to it as a "vocal chain" in the same way your car mechanic talks about your "engine" instead of the various pistons and vlaves, switches and wires.
There has always been a large selection of people who do not care about pitch or being in tune or how well the toms are tuned. They just know they like the song. If you are a person who has been involved in creating music, music production, ie - A trained listener, It's all in the details. Sadly, talent has little to do with popular music. Production values reign supreme. Natural talent is no longer a requirement.
Sounds likes sour grapes from fil.,he hasn't made it and is annoyed that people with less talent than him have ,talent is the least important thing required to be a star plenty of talented people cant make a living
@@misterzero8667 No one that follows his channel believes that. But once in a while, a disgruntled fan accuses him of some nefarious thing because he points out a flawed production by an entertainer they love.
HEY FIL!... check out how most big English bands( and others) used LIVE vocals,yet faked the stage performances using jumbo screens to help timing while shooting hundreds of different shots! This could be a HUGE topic for you. Just satin Zeppelin was the master of this...but check out the Who and Stones as well.
The more videos I see if the 70 and 80 s timeframe convince me that it was all staged fir good intentions...to showcase the bands performances/ talents...just saying it's ALL GOOD
Her "dry" vocals actually sound better than I was expecting. But she certainly does not have a great or special voice. There are a million just like her out there!
As I'm watching this video, I keep going back to upvote it, then realized I've already upvoted. You provide such a service to the community, it is indescribable. Thank you!
Lol! Much appreciate trying to explore this topic, but people want to believe what they want to believe (like their favorite singer is ALWAYS AMAZING!!). I've gotten into SO many arguments with folks, pointing out how the "amazing performances" and "live vocals" in a video weren't really live (and likely re-recorded). One of the obvious give-aways something isn't live is when the vocalist pulls away from the mike, but the vocal volume doesn't drop. Another is when the singer is dancing around, bouncing up and down, yet there's zero fluctuation in the breathing or pitch of the singing. Like I implied. Folks are dying to be lied to.
It's sad that fake perfection has become the standard to aim for 😔 I like my favourite singers because they are expressive and honest (e.g. Lisa O'Neill, Neil Hannon). I know they can sometimes sing a bit off key, and I wouldn't care at all if someone pointed that out, but in the scheme of things it doesn't matter. I much prefer an expressive performance including 'mistakes' than a processed-sounding pitch-perfect performance. However, I do think that the more people hear pitch corrected music the less they are able to cope with hearing 'mistakes'! We played as part of a local folk festival earlier this summer, and there were some singers there, and there were some youngsters in the audience who looked spell-bound by what they were watching and hearing, which gives me hope 😊
@@theyouofyesterday6254 Part of the problem is that fake sells (it's also usually cheaper to deliver), and it's marketed and sold in a way that it seems real. On top of that, the vast majority of listeners just aren't discerning enough to know the difference, and another large chunk of the listening audience doesn't really care so much anyway. So, a fake product will still sell well enough to encourage further faking to occur!! Happy to hear you are seeing folks in the audience that still like a real live performance with real instruments being played!
This type of music is more like talking to music rather than singing,it’s as if they are following the line of the Alps with their vocals. I think that following your channel is making me more aware of how unmelodic their voices are.Thank you for enlightening me,cheers Roly🇬🇧.
Older music had better melodies, harmonies, and exemplified true genuine musicianship. It’s a shame what the music industry has done. The days when musicians put long hours in a studio and played until their fingers bled to produce quality music are gone! 🤘🎸✌️
Keep up the fight Fil! I’m so freakin fed up with this (crap) music farthest thing from music and you’re proving it every week. Auto tune, pitch correction, Lypsync. Started in the early 90s being a guy from the music of the 80s high school in 84 I was in the thick of it and we never thought it would end. I can honestly say I heard of few (artists) over the last 25 plus years. The music just sucks bad. Fil keep up the great job and exposing these SOBs be it record company’s or Again (artists) back the day it was about music now it’s about clicks and view. Back in the day today’s artists would have been chewed up and spit out By artists from the day. Sick sad part, for 20-30 they think they’re the greatest thing the best that’s ever been. It’s crap. Again I’m an 80s guy, 60s and 70s music Awesome fantastic. Again thanks Fil.. I’m done lol
It`s obvious when you see it on screen, not so much when accompanied by instruments, backing vocals and maybe even an audience singing along. Not for an average listener anyway, and I don`t think this channel has many casual listeners tbh.. 23:43
There is another financial advantage of pitch correction: you spend less in recording. This is they key issue here - its not like pop audiences have all perfect pitch and there is a race to see who's more in tune. You just remove the natural (and good) variation to achieve predictability, to drive costs down and profits up. That's what's really sad.
Listen to Beth Hart. She is GREAT and I do not detect pitch correction in her live vocals and she’s got quite a few live albums out there. Pure, natural, powerful, amazing talent!
I defended Dua Lipa in the last analysis video. I think it's only fair now to point out that she's right up there with early Michael Stipe and Eddie Vedder for most unintelligible lyrics. Is there an app to bring out enunciation?
Pitch correction or Autotune can make almost anyone a singer. It’s that simple. Pitch correction and Autotune make time in the studio far less, as well. Even live shows are questionable. Are the artists lip syncing? Is the band playing live or not? Sure, artists of the past used multiple recording of the singer to achieve a certain sound, but it was still the singers voice. Then when the artists played live, it was live. Even when the singer was not on his game, it was live and the fans heard how bad the singer sounded. Broken guitar string, drumsticks, singers falling down all changed the sound, and fans heard it. But we loved it. Artists were giving the fans everything they could on every show, even on bad days. Then, the bands finished up on the road and they wrote, recorded and hit the road again. All that being said, as a metal head, I do like Dua Lipa’s voice. I’m just not turned on by her songs.
This videos hurt my soul ... my God... thank you for being a voice of reason. How sad what is happening .. all fake instagram life style. People are getting use to hear unreal voices..
@@Magnumaniac lol. So true! Or as Quiet Riot's Kevin Mark DuBrow humbly sang, "So you think my singin's out of time. It makes me money. I don't know why. I don't know why."
@@Magnumaniac I had no idea that was a remake nor of a band named Slade! Thanks for sharing your knowledge and inspiration to discover a new band! Listened to Run Runaway and Far Far Away so far. :)
That is one SCARY thought man, that one day this technology would be so widely-accepted, that just as one might say "I can't play guitar for you, I don't have my guitar with me" a singer would say "of course I can't sing for you, I left my laptop at home." That would be one sad day. Well, Paul Simon said it back when in "Can't run, but" (the Rhythm of the Saints) "the music suffers baby, the music business thrives". Music - and art in general - is not the same as the businesses that try to sell us said art. Their interests aren't the same at all.
I don't care for her voice. She sounds very throaty and strained all the time. Only a little note here or there when she releases it to her upper register sound free.
Luckily there are current singers who go out of their way to present their artistry as honestly as possible. Both Ren and Chinchilla have (live) after the title and their duet ‘Chalk Outlines (live)’ has to be the pinnacle of what can be achieved by two talented vocalists using natural reverb and filmed in one continuous shot (unlike Lipa).
LOVE, LOVE, LOVE your so SPOT ON video explanations around this topic. For many of the masses this "scientific" explanation may well beyond their comprehension - NO, I am NOT being condescending , or trying to belittle them, just stating what reality is. This next statement is a little away from above topic but just as relevant (or actually far more important). You may well not wish to consider what I say but the same thing about the masses not recognising being "mis-lead" applies to a certain medical intervention that took place. (Enough said on that issue - I just happen to be AWAKE!).
Fil, fine video as always, it amazes me how poor today's music actually is, but a lot of youngsters are extolling the virtues of 60's/70's/80's music and how great it really was on utube, let's face it, there is no comparison and the unfortunate thing is these so called artistes are earning millions on the back of well, basic rubbish. Keep up the good work mate and take care.
I have noticed the inconsistencies in videos on utube. I have also watched a video on processing a sound video. Putting together different cuts of vocals Interesting stuff but not honest music. Thank you Professor Fil for this informative intructional analysis of the current music industry. Back to my old vinyls for real music.
We've been editing and splicing different 'takes' on tape for... as long as tape was around. Classical, jazz, pop, gospel. Then came "punch in" recording where an individual track could be recorded over to replace a word or phrase where the part was early, late, off pitch, or the singer mispronounced words. In the original vinyl release of J.J. Cale's "Cocaine" you can hear a punch in "double" where the engineer hit the record button a fraction of a beat late. The days of a single one take recording being what you bought in the store ended after WWII.
@raygunsforronnie847 Thanks for the information. I was mostly thinking auto tune and pitch correction. Also the sequencing in videos. Ah well. Live and learn. Thanks again.
I love playing the fretless bass. Wonder if pitch correction could help my occasional intonation issues when recording ?🤔 yeah, I know, practice, practice, practice. Just curious.
It obviously would/will... Better than with vocals... There is also nothing wrong with correcting a few notes on an otherwise great performance... It's just sad the industry does it regardless of how it sounds on everything 😢
I wonder how much this manipulation is used to leverage against the interests of the artists and in favor of the label as far as rights/ownership are concerned?
We are entering into the age of humanizing pitch correction, and i predict induced flatting or sharping in auto tune for live “performances” where we won’t be able to tell live, and real talent wont matter in these circumstances. The only way you’ll be able to tell is intimate acoustic settings. God help us.
Why do so many modern pop singers half mumble their lyrics? Her pitch is fine...although she does use pitch correction and auto tune most of the time by the looks of things, but her diction is terrible. I've heard he speak and she sounds fine, it's only when she's singing. Arianna Grande does it to...a lot of the modern pop singers do it. It's almost like they're trying to do an accent or something, but to me it just sounds like they've just been to the dentist and the anesthetic hasn't worn off yet.
Her voice is like nails on blackboard whether it is 'corrected' or not. The millions of 'views' she gets is because she is beautiful (I will give her that). Her type of 'crying while talking' singing is a sad form of the art.
I'm with you. Het voice is so irritating. The wailing style and whining makes it quite difficult to understand sometimes. Looking good and fancy dances moves are much more important. You can always "touch up" the vocals later Another great vid Fil.
@@Stuski666these crying/whining/honking/wailing voices have been getting on my last nerve for a few years now. I thought I was a cranky lunatic when I found myself sitting in an insurance office with my fingers in my ears. Thank goodness it’s not just me.
A true test of singing a true pitch was the old "Open Mic" nights at Folk Clubs in the 50s/60s and 1970's, the only means of pitch correction then was to stick the fore finger in your ear and listen to your voice. "Neyah" was the favoured sound.
