This is Why MEN are Abandoning RELIGION | W 

The millionaire pastors bragging about their private jet really can't help the image problem.

Men are NOT "abandoning religion." We're abandoning the fake churches that have strayed away from the truth of the Gospel. That does not mean we have abandoned our faith.

In my case, I went to elders in the church for help with my wife. Big mistake.... she was coddled because women are considered the weaker vessel... I was condemned and treated like a stray dog with rabies. I left the church and eventually got divorced. Best decision I have ever made.

I've abandoned the church. Not religion. The bible actually warned us of all this. My beliefs are stronger than ever.

WOW!!!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS! I am the son of a Protestant minister in a large main line denomination in the United States and what you have said about the feminization of the Church is dead on. In fact, I just had this conversation with my father the other day and he completely agrees. When I was a child our churches and my private Christian school were led by American and some British World War II vets. They were confident, accomplished, charming gentlemen who excelled in everything that they did. They ran our church board meetings and Bible studies with a level of principled leadership that can never be matched again. Over the past twenty years, most of these gentlemen have passed away (some are still rocking it in their 90s) and were replaced by their beta boomer sons and domineering boomer daughters. Now the women have taken over almost all of the leadership in our domination and they are completely hostile to all cisgender white men. My dad is 70 and the Church leadership on the regional level makes him go to conferences on checking his white privilege even though he voluntarily served in poor, inner city churches when I was younger. The Church is a complete mess but luckily my faith isn't in people. I can't wait to dig into Rollo's book. I already gave out copies of Rich's book to my fellow soldiers in my Army National Guard unit and the young guys have devoured every word. Rumor is that Rich's book is even being secretly given away by Drill Sergeants at basic training.

I went to church once and the pastor said I needed to give 10% of my salary to the church. I left and never went back.

Religion is not for everyone, but for me personally, it has helped me a lot, especially since I am a lone wolf, it gives me hope that my hard work, persistence and business will continue to grow in perpetuity and that in time the right people and women will be in my life.

I actually started to go to church after I got married, and stopped after I got divorced. Rollo was spot on once again. Great insight he has, I didn’t know that was so common.

when I was going through my divorce due to my (at the time) wife's infidelity my church was a huge support network. I had multiple people come visit me and check in on me, without it I would've been much lonelier. But everyone's church and experience may vary.

I wouldn’t say my friends and I have left religion after taking the red pill. However we have largely abandoned the church and the congregation. What the Bible actually says about a marriage relationship and what the pastor tells you about a marriage relationship are often two separate things. The church would never tell a woman she’s having issues in her marriage because she won’t submit herself to her husband as under the lord. They won’t tell women to not become pastors as the Bible does not permit that. Many churches won’t put right condemn sodomy. In most cases you find pastor will push the narrative that we men must forgive a woman’s past as Jesus forgave the church and ignore submission. The church is now a social circle to us. The pastor despises us.

Found my faith in high school, currently 23 and part of a church that has kept all the old values. No compromise or feminine takeover

Kevin Samules spoke about it Rollo, the show was why black men left he church . Even me am almost going my way 💰💵💴💳💷💎💶

I got RP'd by a cheating "Christian" girl.

I’m a church pastor in Australia. Fortunately my community is still very traditional when it comes to the gender archetypes and of its healthy complimentary roles. We have both a good single mens and woman’s support group also. Been preaching the series in 2 Samuel and it’s emphasis on the destruction of selfish gratification, sexual immorality, and how this is still relevant today, with catastrophic pervasive consequences.

I agree, the thought of going into a physical church again with other people and their problems is just unsettling, I have a personal relationship with god and seek him every day. It’s personal and private and in my own time and my own way.

I'm a woman and tired of church, and the weakness of the leadership and its just not real... I left church during the beginning of covid, and I just don't know where to go anymore. I want something real, not a show.

Church is a great place for 30 something ex carousel riders that are looking for a retirement plan.

Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life. It seems the majority of Christians have forgotten this or never knew this to begin with.

Don’t abandon religion. Faith is beyond money and women. Have faith in God….he does exists !

Church has become a safe haven for people that made poor decisions And gave them more excuses to do so

This is depressing because as a Christian, I find myself almost completely isolated as most women my age (late 20s) tend to be atheist or agnostic. I wish to be married and have children with a Christian woman and raise a family with traditional Christian values. But that is hard to come by these days because of this generational shift propelled by the internet and social media.

Rich Cooper was my introduction to the manosphere. It's good to see him and Rollo Tomasi collaborating.

remember its about having faith in something that will make you better... not following what a priest says to get your reward...

Absolutely 100% correct about the church siding with the wife in a divorce. My experience spot on.

One of the biggest reasons that a lot of young men do not go to church or any other religious institution is the laws and religious ethics are no congruent. For example no fault divorce. Not punishable.

The church knows who has control in the home and writes the check.

I grew up in the church, I started seeing not people trying to serve others but a corporate structure, feminists creeping in, women as bad as non church women. I saw decent men who wanted to serve but were denied because they were previously divorced. I have seen the most pious karens try to sweep their daughter's unwed pregnancy under the rug by celebrating it. The last straw for me was seeing people who didn't fit a image being ignored. I had had enough. I still believe in God, still believe in Jesus but I cannot take the modern American Christian structure seriously anymore. I haven't stepped into my old home church in almost a decade.

As a lifelong church member, there are lots of reasons men are leaving the church. The biggest reason is that most men under the age of 40 were never in a church to begin with so they never actually left. Church going Christians are a minority of the American population now. Another major reason is a general lack of belief in the major tenants of "traditional" Christianity. (Belief in the divinity of Christ, belief in the resurrection, belief in sin, belief in the ten commandments, etc.) Also, it is challenging for modern people to put their faith ahead of their own personal wants and desires now. Having served on Church boards for many years, I've seen all the silly stupid petty fights that go on in churches that make people angry. Most people don't have the spiritual maturity to learn forgiveness, so they leave after getting upset about some issue that really isn't that important or they leave over a misunderstanding. Pride, misunderstandings, and hurt feelings are the biggest things that drive people out of churches in my observation. Then there are the cultural issues in many mainline churches. Most (not all) of the mainline churches have become completely "woke" in their politics and theology. It is a cancer that is killing Christianity in the developed world. Even the more conservative and traditional denominations have some lesser degree of feminist taint because church members are saturated with it in the culture and then drag it into the church. The failure of women to willingly submit to male authority in the more traditional churches is largely due to the cultural shift in society being imported in by women by allowing them to sit on church councils, teaching Bible classes and Sunday School etc.

Wow! Rollo hit the nail on the head with respect to divorce and the religions/congregations siding with the women. I went through that exact scenario.

FINALLY!!!!!! Someone tells the truth instead of man bashing!

Reminds me of personal experience and stories I've heard. Things like girls riding the carousel early in highschool then "finding god" right before college, and pastors' daughters getting knocked up by their boyfriends, but claimed they were graped to save their image and everyone going along with it.

I grew up as a Jehovah Witness and absolutely hated it. That religion tore my family apart.

I’m a 25 year old man with a biblical studies degree. I left the Protestant church and now attend an Orthodox Church. I don’t agree with all of the theology of orthodox but it’s a place I can worship God. I’ve seen the feminization in church before my eyes. Majority female leadership, condoning young women’s actions, and criticizing good young men. The official members in the church were stuck up and super fake. It was like having a conversation with a robot. I was so thirsty for authenticity and had a difficult time finding it. It’s such a TikTok age of Christianity with bumper sticker quotes, watered down “sermons”, and spotlight junkies.

What a sad state of affairs. The Church has failed so many people, not just men. Even though I believe in God/Jesus etc I can’t bring myself to go.

Pastors assume that relationships are in trouble because the husband is at fault. So preaching is going to appeal to women. Also, nearly 75% of his congregation is female, so the last thing he wants to do is upset the ladies. Many of the men in church with their wives are quite feminine, including the pastor. It's rare for the pastor to be a sports fan.

Rollo really nailed it. All the irony I saw in church. Chritians dont need god to forgive them bc they forgive themselves all the time regardless what nasty things they do.

I have not abandoned religion. I have abandoned church and I am happier for it.

Met a woman on a dating app who invited me to her church (She’s a baptist, but was looking for a Christian church she liked) I took her to my church and now she’s considering converting. I’m Catholic and went to coed Catholic school from Kindergarten through my senior year. Religion has value but it won’t teach you to be redpilled nor is a church a magical place where you’ll find “the one” coming from a guy who’s been in church his entire life I never once met a woman I dated there.

I stop going when they stop telling women to *submit* to their her husband who is a man of God.

Most people are faithful if it suits their lifestyle. For the wrong reasons. Blaming religion because of the people twisting it and selfish is not right. We all got the choice to live how we want. By the way, Church is just a community. You don't need it to have religion or pray to God. It is just there to surround yourself with like minded people. Go your own way, speak to God directly if you are religious. You don't need a middle man to speak to God for you. The Pope is a great example of a middle man benefiting off you and exploiting believers....just like those money making cults.

As a weekly church going Christian, I can say from the various churches I've been to as an adult, it's about a 50/50 cointoss if a random single Christian woman is a never-wed single mother or not.

It kind of hurt to see this, but as a Christian man, this is true. I don’t blame God for it, I blame society and church leaders for not keeping up with the times. For some reason, God allows it. I grew up in a Christian home. I parted ways when I was 18, and dedicated my life to Christ at 36. I dated a couple girls at church, and I had no success. Both of those girls ended up dating outside church to guys who have no religious background. I myself, ended up finding a good Catholic girl overseas who I am now married to. So I can somewhat relate to Tomassi’s argument.

As a single man I did go for the message however...I started seeing more married men who were miserable constantly complaining about life. The women? They were pretty much throwing themselves at the men there with a slutty past. Now they are "saved". The women were very much put up on a pedestal. Just got alittle too cult like for me so I bailed. If I need help with an addiction I'll hire a professional that doesn't use religion.

Going to church to meet a “good woman” is like going to the food court in the mall and eat someone else’s leftovers they have left behind on the table. Eating scraps on someone else’s plate after they have enjoyed the best part of the meal. Wink, wink, notch, notch.

Church is where women go after they been ran thru i.e CC Ride…. They try to rebrand the 🐱 and claim born again. Basically, like trying to rebrand and rebuild an old beat up Honda with high mileage

All my life my experience was that church is geared for women. That's a big reason why I always hated it. If it was more masculine, I'd probably would've been more interested in going. Why the hell would I want to spend time with old ladies and middle aged moms getting all emotional about their lives every week? That has zero appeal for me. That has never appealed to me... Screw that! Let's just stay home and watch football. 😂

My mom found church after she had me. Got a nice, docile, hardworking beta to marry her. Good guy, treated me like his own but I can't help but look at him with pity and disdain now.

I've seem a lot of dudes who actually waited till marriage because they think God has the perfect women saved for them, and then they end up marrying some woman with a high body count who conveniently wants to find Jesus during age 25-30

The Church I used to go some years ago, has taken more from me, than it has actually given me. and I'm not talking about money, it's way more complicated.

Religion in the West has Followed society instead of Influencing society

Church today has the depth of a bumper sticker while many people are starved for truth and meaning. Everyone in my family/friends are either divorced or deeply depressed and it's not getting any better. Society is breaking.

If the concepts in church were presented for the first time to a man over the age of 18 there is no way he would buy into it. It simply isn’t logical. That being said church could provide a sense of belonging and a community to interact with. You guys were spot on in saying that statistically the church doesn’t insulate the threat of divorce.

I know churches are open to all. But a lot of gals are in the church living with a guy without being married for years. Supposed to be right with God and be married?

Frequently the pastor is sleeping with the wife during marriage counseling. Ask Ben Zobrist.

Jesus had the best resume in the business. Sometimes when a guy wants a job done right, it's best to leave it up to the pros.

If you want to find a good girl for vetting, you would have to go to a Turning Point USA event

The way I have heard it: Religion is not for everyone, but God is.

Exactly right. I was a youth leader at a community church who was headed by a female pastor and we had difficulty keeping men at church. That is not to say that a female pastor cannot lead, but it is extremely hard and challenging for a female pastor to lead men because of the differences in personality and biological predisposition, the church struggled to have a support group for men that never came to fruition. Some churches lead by female pastors preach modern day feminism when is in contradiction with what the bible says.

Rich you did a good job listening to your guests. That shows good maturity as well as high emotional intelligence on your part. I know that you're an intelligent man and enjoy talking, but it's very smart when you invite someone on your channel to let them talk. You did exactly that and I commend you for it. Hope you are well. Know that I am against this vaccine mandate for some workers and doing everything in my power to stop it.

I rarely see true men with their own thoughts and values in a church. Its impossible to be in a church if you are an alpha as too many things in christianity and religion doesnt make sense to a real man

Yep its in my church.. my wife left the marriage and the whole church I'd ralling around her and I'm there alone.. and it was my church.. and she left the marriage because she don't want to be married and I'm the bad guy

I love how these 2 compliment each other. I bought the Rational Male Religion book Rollo wrote. Sometimes it makes a good point but Im not halfway done yet. I found JC when I was 14, Im 35 now. TBH I hate how blue pilled the Church's get. Oldschool pastors would tell you to change. Modern bluepilled pastors just wanna sing songs and collect money. Id rather read a book explaining Bible stories in detail. Even then I hate it when the author gives some Blue pill advice steering you in the wrong direction. I swear the Bible (basic instructions before leaving Earth). Its guiding men especially to be as masculine as possible.

Why did RELIGION abandon MEN?

Religion is fading, thank God for that :D

As an atheist myself who does Not believe in God, this makes me smile.

Religion is very family based. Single people, divorced people, etc are not going to church

Abandoning the church not faith!

Oh. Wow. So...someone finally said it. Yes, the Church is feminine. I can attend Mass, as long as I sit quietly and listen in a well-mannered behavior like a little 9-year-old school girl while clergy lecture me on how to be a better human being while they continue to ignore their sexual deviance and culpability in one scandal after another. Hmm. Wanna "reach" me? Well, for starters father, try raising a family of your own. And where the hell is your sub-machinegun? Be a Warrior, for the love of God.

Mainline religion has compromised itself into irrelevance. Pretty much Self-Help lite.

Thank you Richard for having the courage to speak the truth... the shepherds/priests are wolves in sheep’s clothing. Good to know priests are covertly red pill...

religion doesnt help financially either, church doesnt care if you fired, they need their money!

Been going all my life. I find it sad. They never talk about the family. Most people aren't going to figure it out on their own.

I’m 20, and I have a tough relationship and view of God. I separate Jesus and God the Father, seeing Jesus as loving and God the Father as complicated not very caring of me. I’ve struggled and the women that have hurt me and manipulated me the worst were from the Seventh day Adventist church or grew up in it(which I was raised in). Christianity teaches men to be women pleasers and bitches, and I have a deep issue with that shit. I’ve found confidence and some happiness after God left me and abandoned me in my worst condition and when I decided to walk my own path(my ex(who was 5 years older and didn’t have a high school diploma still)manipulated and broke me, I didn’t know what I wanted to pursue in life as a viable career, and my father, who had been sick for 5-6 years, died. It all happened in less than 6 months, one after another. And when I cried out to God for peace and help, he ignored me. When I opened his bible, it angered me, because the verses of comfort I used to read, were now verses that taunted me and flipped the middle finger to my struggle. So I gave on God, since he obviously didn’t have as much interest in healing me as I thought he would have had. Anyways, great message sir

I have God in my heart. I don't need or want a church. Also things are coming out about Jesus and its mind blowing stuff.

I’m asian and I don’t really see much benefits in following a certain religion. Most people here don’t really care much bout religion because it don’t really have much impact on their lives

I started a church call, "House of Wokistan" send your love gifts and I will send you my new book called "Unicorns do exist '

Religions are legal systems set up to control the flow of property and power in a society. Religion and Spirituality are not equivalent. Religions typically co-opt the teachings of a spiritual leader for the benefit of the institution not for benefit of the followers. Religious institutions purport to advance the teachings of a founder or a teacher who inspired the creation of the religion. But in truth the only purpose of the institution is to further the power of the institution. Many people today see through the illusion and choose to pursue their spiritual practice outside of a traditional religious institution. Men seem to do this more than women.

I discovered Rollo Thommasi and the RP after brutal experience with religious girl. The problem is not in religion per se, more in membership of that religion... 😁

American Christianity in every major denomination is sopped in feminism.

Because besides Islam, modern religion is gynocentric and primarily serves women at the expense of men Keyword is modern. Liberalized religion destroys the original religion.

Sadly, single men that decide to attend a church are usually the target of shit quality single/divorced women the pastor/priest/bishop needs to get married off so someone else can carry their burden for awhile.

I was born and raised a Catholic and still have a complete and profound belief in God However I have lost all faith in and respect for the Catholic Church as it went down hill on full afterburner after the loss of Pope John Paul as it's mortal leadership When Notra Dame invited president nObama a champion of slaughtering the unborn to be a commencement speaker I loss all use for the Catholic church When the cardinal of NYC refused to excommunicate the Mayor after he allowed regulation that a woman could actually have her new born babies life ended my.lack of respect for the Catholic church turned to dispisement Religion is a very good thing but like all organizations it's only as good as long as it remains true to its core values and adheres to the rules and only the members can insure the leaders remain true to thier rules and values.

And a lot of these churches have turn into cash registers… my last girl was a So called religious women.. hand in the air with prayer .. 🤣And guess what she was a cheater and liar… What a full I was… Lessoned learned..I still believe in the Lord I just don’t know if he lives in the church like he used to…

This is one of the prophecies of the Bible. 2 Thessalonians 2 : 1-3. We playing right into the enemies hands.

“Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful.”

I was a strong believer in God 10 years ago but not anymore. Simply because it really f+ks my mind up.

The situation is same in Muslim countries, too.

Even the pope is woke now

Both religion and dating are illogical endeavours. Religion is having a relationship with an imaginary friend, while dating is having a relationship with narcissist who will leave you for someone better.

Isaiah 3:12 ¶ As for my people, children are their oppressors , and WOMEN RULE over them: O my people, they which lead thee, cause thee to err, and DESTROY the way of thy paths. This was prophesied that this would happen. Stay cold fellas.

Fascinating segment , i ve lost interest in church because it is very boring & lousy music 🎵

God I hope they don't find religion! I hope they find a relationship with a living God.

I’m actually going through the 18 - 28 phase where I was getting right with God. I went back to church. Was dragged there by a beautiful woman. Now I’m back in the streets. Cause indeed like the video said, Its feminized and nothing is really there.

My two cents worth. I think religion/christianity/churchianity has done much good in that in the past it clearly defined men's and women's roles. Unfortunately, not so much anymore. After spending my life researching religion I have come to the conclusion that organized religion is not based in reality and fact, but in wishful thinking. I do believe (based on the detailed complexity and order within the universe) that there must have been a first cause. Who or what that force was we can only speculate as that ENTITY has chosen to remain in silent obscurity.

Would really love to hear Rich Cooper talk more about spirtuality, faith and the idea of a higher power. Almost everything Rich says about the empirical science, rationality, psychology, social dynamics, business, entrepreneurship, human nature ect. is GOLD and extremly valuable! Helps very much to get closer to win in life, at least materially which lets face it is a huge deal!. But I'm very curious about Richards thoughts on things that are not rational per se, like spirituality things like intuition, love, selfless service, hope, courage, humility, serenity ect. (I know, very often marked as feminine values, and nowadays often misused in a very dishonest and/or hysterical way. (i.e. political correctnesss, feminism, weakness disguising as "compassion" ect.) But I personally do believe there is an important role for those "not so rational" values in their truthful state, I think its also important to comtemplate these concepts at least on a personal level, but I have found that healthy spiritual communities were you can learn about them, practice, meditate, strengthen ones faith ect. can be very useful to build a solid psychological and spiritual foundation It also helps with "doing the work" and crucial for me at least in maintaining hard work, when it comes to rational growth, good psysique, money, be captivating, but also to use those gifts in an ethical and constructive way for the community as a whole. Belief systems about the emperical "real world" is good and neccecary but I think the 'why' and spiritual values is what sustains the beliefs and help individuals to grow in a healthy way. That are my thoughts about this, maybe its a peronality thing from my part, but I'm facinated by deep and philisophical topics like ethics , psychology, meaning and values, and I think true spirituality plays a big role in that. Also, Rich, do you believe you have (some) feminine qualities?, or do you think thats bullshit and men are just men with only masculine traits, and women have only feminine traits, or do you think its normal for men to have (a small amount) a some "femininity" and even good for them to embrace it for the sake of authenticity? Maybe its not the right way to put it, but if I put it another way, do you experience for instance the need for intimancy with a women and the need to communicate feelings to a partner? and is that something men should avoid to talk about or express in some other way than sex, or is intimacy just a beta concept and part of the betatization by a thousand consessions. I want to admit right here and there that I couldnt give a fck if someone judged me for valueing intimacy, because I of course also value other things as well like physical and mental strength, courage, resilience, clear visions and goal oriented actions, and I´m not a slacker and I do the work to the best of my abilities, but I think its important to be your whole authentic self, be as honest as you can be. and have self-compassion, or at least try to develop some sensitivity. I'm guess I'm curious about if Rich is human and has a softer side to him, cause the image on youtube can sometimes be very harsh. this Is not supposed to be anything other than a constructive note, and 99,99999% of Rich Cooper material is so valuable, honest and true. And I'm super grateful for all the messages, wisdom and "harsh" truths you have given us. Nothing but love.

Some guy said that atheism is beta and believing in God is alpha. Even though that sounds like a meme, it holds some truth to it. Believing in God gives you a higher purpose, helps you structure your life, and understanding your value as a man. Atheism and feminism go hand in hand. If you believe women were created for men you can't put them in the pedestal feminism has put them on.

Here's why, Men are logical beings, women emotional. Religion caters to emotion not logic

I grew up in the church and was a youth pastor who went to seminary. Now I'm an atheist, but not a bitter one. I will have to say in my experience with being in so many churches in different cities, the best women are Christian women usually. But, I'm too connected to my beliefs to go after a Christian woman. However, the ones who grew up in church and have walked away from it usually dont have a high body count. But, I have had many women get annoyed with my atheism though they haven't been to church in over a decade. Some of my experiences with those kinds usually have bad dating patterns, but can quickly use God to get self-righteous. Ever noticed how both conservative and liberal women can get self-righteous? Ha!

Great video. Beyond educational.

If men look to the church for faith and then how you help others .Through construction or other programs Or leading other men to be Men. Church can be place where a Alpha male high achiever person can thrive.