This is why people hate building PCs these days 

@Lurch it'll become a test bench and *probably* be better off

So, we hate tempered glass now? Give it five years, the trend will finally die... Only for people to crave it once more!

@@pieceofschmidtgamer there's no way we'd go back to solid panels other like fine meshes/screens so I'd say it's here to stay unless we go to open air cases

Man how the fuck am I going to ship that by the way Let us say in theory you were moving in a year. How are you going to ship your computer? I've seen so many horror stories of prebuilts and I've got multiple hard drives on top of that, yes ship btw because literally mailing it to myself seems cheaper.

@@pandemicneetbux2110 send the computer and take the glass separate :tm: also TG is stronger than a lot of people think. It's rarely the thing broken when pcs getting shipping damage, actually.

Dragon gang lessssgooooooo 🤣

She thinks pop's a little over the hill 🤣

@@brahtrumpwonbigly7309 My rig is.

@@Superagent666 I actually have an Asus board. But the Msi just looked right.

​@@floydwegienka6582 Asus has just taken L after L recently

does gpu sag piss you off?

Then you have Dell and HP purposely making standoff locations a non standardized size so you CANT use their case with aftermarket parts.

that sort of anti consumer practice should be illegal lmao @@southpark159753

@@southpark159753 Jokes on them, I never wanted to use their trash cases

Outside of certain server makers, they still for the most part do.

@@southpark159753 That's why we have drills, tappers, spare wires/connectors, and stand-offs. Then what you just described is no problem at all.

Well personally I wish they would >> through his decision monologues and just summarize what he is gonna do and why, instead of us having to sit through his brainstorming. Nothing is as irritating as someone else's indecisiveness.

​@@Firepulserhe's monologuing because this is what goes through anyone's mind when making decisions, his advantage is he's got all that gear to try out whereas we're just left with a what if. The monologue is an essential part of this video. Just skip to the end

DMC 2 sucks like Dark Souls 2 sucks!!

@@Edd211 Dark Souls 2 definitely did not suck. If you found it too hard try a magic build or walkthrough. You are sooooooooo missing out on some amazing bosses, environments and experiences. I honestly almost feel sorrow for you if you end up missing out. BTW, I've played all From Software games.

Oh yeah, try fitting a USB 3.0 case cable to the side mounted port on an ATX board in a mid tower case when the drive cages can't be removed.

Yes, this. Hope Jay sees this, that is such a good idea!

Commenting to help him notice

Also makes upgrades easier than ever. I like it.

If I were to make a "desktop" computer, that's what I'd do too. But I doubt I'd buy anything but a laptop now because I like to take my computer with me.

I need to see what this looks like

@@quillaja You do serious gaming outside of the home?

@@bricaaron3978 More likely needs a laptop and would rather invest in a good laptop over a PC. Different needs.

that's such a helpful site.

It's helpful but not perfect. Especially CPU cooler height. Sure, that Dark Rock Pro 4 will fit fiiiinnnnnne.

Agreed it is helpful even to those of us that have been out of PC building and tech sphere for a few years.

@@TheSolidSnakeOil it can't do all the work for you, but it will do a lot of it.

It's not the be-all, end-all of pc building sites, but it is certainly one of the best. It's still lacking a few things that would otherwise make it a total one-stop site for pc building. They don't keep track of the RAM + Motherboard compatibility and that's a huge oversight, especially since the motherboard manufacturers are pretty open about what their boards will or won't support. Nothing sucks like ordering everything, getting the parts home, and realizing that the super-nice RAM sticks you bought won't work and the only motherboard available that _can_ use them will wreck your budget. It also lacks some basic specs for monitors, like color gamuts, cable interface VERSIONS, and matte/glossy. But I can forgive that, because at least it's not an issue on the system building side.

Make separate loops, one red one blue

actual simp

Ok so for the mega man question mega man figures are really rare and expensive so I think the smallest will be the 1 inch or darts/4 inch nel and they would cost u a 100+

It did?? For me it just reinforced not to try this, unless you have tons of time&money... Do you have spare MBs around "just in case?", well neither do I.

3D printer go brrrrrr hahaha

Or even one of the upgrade capsules. That would be exceptional

finished? you must be new here.

get a smaller megaman as gfx card support

@@oIdsteve nah it takes him forever but he eventually finishes projects... sometimes

@@Mack_Dingo Def a great idea. I'd say MM since he has X already. But seems he's basing the pipes off of Quick Man's stage, the force beams.

Not really that bad, just have to be patient with it while you're putting it together and you likely want to put parts in that you plan on having for 6 or 7 years. Wouldn't do it if you were the kind of person to get the new Nvidia x060/x070 every year. In the middle of replacing my recently deceased Titan X Pascal with a 4090 and I've been taking my time with my acrylic tubing runs.

Water cooling is definitely not necessary. If I didn't have a kid, I wouldn't even be using a case to be honest. The entire industry tries and conditions people into thinking they NEED a certain level of stuff to be able to play video games. I've done the great majority of my adult video-gaming with onboard graphics. I played league of legends when it was popular, call of duty, Ark, Path of Exile. I've played most of them both with and without boosted gfx and besides occasionally having to turn down the settings compared to if I had a card, I don't notice any difference in the amount of fun I have. Meanwhile my friends, who insist on having stunning graphical experience are overheating, overvolting, or having compatibility issues and other such things from trying to put a $600 new gen gfx card in a $600 previous gen pc all in the name of trying to do the same thing I'm doing (play games). I've also used 100% stock cpu coolers in every one of my personal builds. My last build (hand me down for my kid) has the heatsink and fan held together with a ziptie from when I tried to remove it for a good cleaning. The HSF was welded to part of the cpu and I had to pry it apart, breaking the plastic. I also bent half the pins getting cpu out. Got it all back together, that thing is going on 7 years old now and it runs minecraft and hundreds of thousands of other good games. PC gaming can be one of the cheapest hobbies around. I'd build a lower TDP rig if I actually ever felt like I need watercooling. Most of you guys seem to be packing enough heat in your systems that I could make some virtual machines and we could both game on it at the same time with framerate beyond what our eyes can even reasonably handle...

@@thmswalters To each their own, I see no problem in letting those of us who spend the money have our fun with powerful hardware. I also don't see the problem in going the opposite direction if that's what you want to do. Personally I am impressed with the level of asceticism you're at. But really, nobody thinks they _need_ a water cooling loop to play video games, the conditioning of needing a "certain level of stuff" is usually self-imposed by the individual when it happens. By that I mean people have a budget and a performance goal usually, and some people have a performance goal that is always high and will always try to get the best hardware to reach that level. My current PC is 8 years old, GTX 970 and a heavily overclocked i5, provided stunning graphical experiences but new games are just asking too much for it to keep up even at reduced settings. So after 8 long years I am finally upgrading with mostly secondhand parts to an RTX 3080 system. I used to say the same thing, seeing all these people with the newest hardware always complaining about games not running right while my 970 was error-free, but I can't deny my excitement to finally be running a computer that is powerful by modern standards again. You're right that the fun in video games is not as correlated to what's in the PC case as most people make it out to be, but nobody is going to deny that prettier graphics at higher framerates will always be a better gameplay experience than lowering the settings and running at a lower framerate.

Eight _thousand_ dollar build?

Ohh nice cuz hot water has more volume than cold or room temperature one so sealing the loop while the water is still hot will creat a bit of vacuum and even if the system runs at maximum there wouldnt be any extra preasure to force open any connection point .

@@kaszas272HU Essentially. Yes. The change in volume is the result of the increased molecular activity and reduced density when heated.

Or just get a decent air cooler, they are as effective and have way less failure points

@@ilmisxx2 Also no danger of destroying your 5k dollar PC when one of those water tubes pops off.

@@ilmisxx2 I believe a good water cooling setup can be a little cooler, but the main benefit is noise level. I do personally think the added work/risk to components isn't worth it, but a fair number of people do.

A 90 degree case will take care of the sagging issue because the card is mounted vertical.

Or some kind of UV ink maybe add a blacklight

it takes a lot more than two hours

@@nopenope7088 took me 2 hours 14ish minutes I timed it. My case is also big, Asus gt501, so it was easy to work in, and the fans all came pre installed.

Jay's (and other creators') videos make it seem more complicated because they are dealing with small cases, large components and usually accessories or water cooling that most people would rather not utilize. A casual builder would rather have a mid to full tower so access is easy and there isn't much planning to be done.

@@nopenope7088 2 hours seems super doable for a first build to me.

@@nv_takeout if you say so. it took me a full night to get my formd t1 build finished last month.

you want flow here's your god damned flow🤣

I just did a lian li v3000 build using two cross flows, and I love them. Those rads made the plumbing incredibly simple, one 420mm mounted up top, which feeds right into a 420mm in the front, and then down back into the reservoir. Best flow, best performance, and quietest system I've ever built.

Agreed. Just finished a new build this week and I'm really happy with the board. XMP on 7200 MT/ s DDR5 worked straight away.

Flow rate and the room temperature. 😂

Oh, man. I've been in some heated arguments about this over the years... Heat transfer scales with temperature-difference. If you've got an ambient temperature of 20C and water entering the radiator at 40C is cooling to 30C, halving the flow so each bit of water spends twice as long in the radiator should mean it cools to around 25C - if the temperature difference is halved at time X then it should be halved again at time 2X. If you're treating low water temperature as the goal then this might seem like a good thing, but the real goal is moving heat away from the processor. When you're removing 150% as much heat per bit of water but from only half as many bits of water, you're only removing 75% as much heat. The same thing happens at the processor end. The fastest heat transfer is when each bit of water first hits the hot thing. That bit of water will slowly soak up more heat if it stays longer, but nowhere near as much as the next bit will in its initial surge. The faster your flow rate, the faster each bit gets out of the way of the next bit's initial surge, and the faster that bit gets through the radiator and back around for another initial surge.

I was thinking the same thing. Print out something on laminate/adhesive that could cover the extra exposed white of the mobo tray and other exposed portions of the case. Could also cover the back of the case excluding fans with the same material to really make it immersive.

could also do orange coolant to match the lava and cover msi dragon with the Megaman dragon

It's a lot easier now than it was in the early 90's when you hade to use household water plumbing gear to hook a huge outboard water cooler to your PC, so you could overclock your 486 and make it run 40% faster! It's like horsepower on a car, the more power you put in, the less the increase makes a difference, and you don't get nearly as much out of overclocking modern processors as you could much older ones.

That's what he said 🤣

That is a good suggestion.

Well this makes me feel old. I've been here since the early days before he quit his day job. In my mind that was just a few years ago!

i used to watch j2c linus techdeals etc too, wiser to not drag anyone

Isnt that hard. Cable goes into closest hole and you pull it through as much as possible. Who cares what it looks like behind the panel. You are the only person who will ever see that and rarely at that. I havent opened the back of my case in a couple years.

I have a Cooler Master HAP 500 case, they don't make a GPU too large for it yet, and once they do, I can chop the eight 5 1/2" drive bay down or just remove it, now that I have NVME's and a few 3 1/2" SSDs! It's not like I don't have 4 additional 5 1/2" hot swap bays in the front I can get 8 SSD's into, and all kinds of extra space elsewhere.

Unlikely, since the difference is usually less than 20c, especially on the part that’s near the glass that’s going to be basically the same as water temp.

Was thinking the same thing myself. Murphy's law says it will explode into a thousand pieces one day and the user will have no idea why.

if you plan to use the same memory SSD, should you wipe them before upgrading?

@unknownGoblin Depends on what you're upgrading. If it's only a video card or ram, then no, but if it's a whole new system, then yes, of course.