Dan, please tell me it's not just me but does one of the Flash villains at the table look like Sylvester Stallone with different facial hair because now I can't stop thinking about flash vs rocky
Bart Allen is the 5th Flash. Jay Garrick is the First Barry Allen is the Second Wally West is the Third Walter West is the Fourth (Also known as Dark Flash) Bart Allen is the Fifth.
@@eddybrash1793 if you want to you can add Jessica Chambers and that Russian chick who once called herself Lady Flash. She was part of Blue Trinity and then worked for Savitar.
@@DanExclaimsplease, you give such funny commentary that I still watch your vids when I know the stories! Plus it’s a story everyone should be told about
Joker laughs about his stupid plan and while he’s laughing, he suddenly realizes he’s back in Gotham tied up to the bat signal. That sounds like something the Flash would do.
Can you imagine being Gordon or a random cop on the roof probably to summon Batman and suddenly you hear insane laughter and look to the previously unobstructed batsignal just to see a clown tied to it laughing like a maniac?
The Flash, from the Joker's perspective, just isn't *fun*. You might be able to kill people or blow something up, but he moves too fast to set up, let alone appreciate, the joke.
@@jarowanHonestly I think the fact that Flash has a sense of humor would ruin the fun for Joker. Batman never laughs about much of anything. He's always brooding and stoic. Joker might think he wants to make him crack but as we know the one time he did make him laugh it's heavily implied that ended Joker's life right after. And honestly I think if Joker even saw Bats start giggling a little he'd be so bewildered it'd probably freak him out so much he'd just surrender. Remember when Terry fought him in the Batman Beyond movie? Terry being willing to trash talk back to him completely ruined him. Not only could Flash make light work of him before he could even put his plan into motion: he'd completely clown him (pun intended lol.) Honestly, if you wanna stop Joker you either just kill him, or roast him. He only thinks he's funny because Bruce doesn't criticize his material or play his game lol.
That's the thing...the Rogues aren't crazy, at least not the successful ones. They have it figured out. The ones who just want money, the Captain Colds and Tricksters...they aren't thinking of trying to kill the Flash. They just wanna keep him busy. Distracted. Maybe at best knock him out. Killing him? Brings way too much heat on them and most of them are pro-thieves. They don't think like the Gotham freaks and tend to not associate with those who do.
Reason why the villains all have agreement with the Flash(es). Let the villains finish their Evil Villainous Monologue. They've worked REALLY REALLY REALLY hard on perfecting it. And knowing the Flash(es). They agreed to it. Because the Flash(es) is/are bro(s) like that.
There's a great issue of Impulse with The Riddler in it. He says that there's a bomb in the city, and gives Bart his riddle. Bart zips off, checks every building in the city, and asks Riddler if he meant this bomb, and hands it to him. Then Riddler tells him he has a second bomb, and, before he can even tell the second riddle, Bart hands him that bomb too, telling him he found it while looking for the first one. 😂
Flash Family: *_All able to move at insane speeds, to the point a few can mess with time and space just by racing each other._* Rogues: "Finally, a worthy opponent! Our battle will be legendary!"
Rogues: No. You will doom our entire timeline. Rookie: What, are they the governor of time? Rogues: No, the rest will rip time apart trying to stop you. We survived the last time by luck. WE will stop you if you try.
More like don’t kill anyone, Flash’s rogues have a strict code that Captain Cold uses to keep everyone in line. The biggest rule is no killing, especially women and kids. If you break this rule you get harshly dealt with
The rouges have gotten so good at quick decisions and planning to counter the flash that they are like 2 storylines away from being an anti speedster squad
fun Flash fact: there is in fact a group of cops in the future (pre-Flashpoint was their last appearance afaik) called the Renegades that are just cop versions of the Rogue's, set to battle Eobard Thawne.
Spelled "Rogue" The U comes after the G. Having the U before the G. You spell the French word for "Red". Though The Rouges does have a nice name for a group. Most likely made up of French....uhm...well let us say Criminals. No, wait! Food Critics! Far more evil. MAHAHAHAH!
I love the idea of the joker just casually setting up chemical weapons taking half a second to dust himself off or sneeze just to open his eyes and be back in Gotham City limits and go "what the fuck just happened?"
There was a scene in one of the animated shows a bit like that. Joker had set up a bomb, and was watching video footage of the Flash trying to defuse it, and then he just disappeared. Joker didn't know what happened, so he rewound the video and ran it super-slowmo, to see Flash just pick the bomb up and run it out of the city.
@@omgitzthunderlol4598The Rogues aren’t indiscriminate with their efforts, which helps. Their goal is always a set objective with clean and concise planning, unlike Batman or Superman villains who just destroy when they feel like it. The Rogues have a sense of precision, which is vital for combating someone who could exterminate planet earth in half an hour and still find time to make lunch if he wanted.
@@zippinga68games40During Blackest Night, the son of one of the Rogues who had been turned into a Black Lantern was feeding him random women and children... When the other Rogues found out about it, they threw him in the pit his father was in for breaking their biggest rule...
I respect the hell out of the rogues. They look at a guy who can move and think at Super sonic speed and go, “alright, lets fucking go” and will actually hold a chance because their plans would easily defeat other super heroes
The average off screen villain fight is hilarious. It’s usually something along the lines of: “Hands where i can see em! Gimme all the money- . . . Where the F am I?!”
I feel like this is why flash villains have such a strict code to follow. Cus they know they are surviving on the fact that the flash knows they have rules so they aren't major threats
Depends. The Classic Rogues? Yes, but characters like Gorilla Grodd, Girder, Magenta, Amethyst Black, Mumur, and some others are ok with Killing People.
@@baligong3592 I'm mostly just on about the rouges since those are his most popular (other than grodd and reverse flash), cus I know grodd has no respect for human life and RF will kill literally anyone if it makes Barry even the slightest bit more miserable
@@baligong3592And he usually takes them far more seriously than Captain Cold. It's an exchange. Flash tolerates their bullshit to a degree, and in return, they follow strict rules and generally keep MOST crime in check. It's like a mafia. Yes, they're harmful, yes they hurt people, yes you stop them, but shit gets worse when they're gone.
One thing I like about The Flash is they (especially Wally) actually cares for and treats his villians with compassion and understanding, no matter what they do.
To be fair, Batman and Superman can also be deeply empathetic when they're written well, especially Bruce. The problem is that B-man and Supes just keep getting writers aiming to be more "dark and 'realistic'" who clearly just want to make a Watchmen issue but know they're never going to get the chance so they'll settle for extra-edgy-angry Batman or losing-all-faith-in-mankind Superman, completely missing the point and heart of the very characters they're writing about. Add that normally either Bruce or Clark are sacrificed on the alter of "Designated Leader of the People Who Are Wrong," in any divide-amongst-the-heroes storyline and you have a Batman who shows no compassion or Superman who's a self-entitled jerk in 3/4 of the recent officially released materials be they animated or print. ....Sorry that turned into a rant. Anyway even among the other heroes Flash IS kind and friendly with his villains, I just hate that poor characterization seems to have robbed a lot of the other heroes of the empathy they originally had. Also, anyone over age 25 who claims they're not thinking at least partially of the JLU scene with Trickster when the topic of, "Flash is the nicest core Justice League member," comes up, is lying.
Joker learned the hard way that Gotham is the only place for him. Superman and the Flash don't play around with him Edit to add: I give a damn about the Injustice universe.
Was he locked up in those instances? The way it's worded make it sound like he shrugged and went back to Gotham with him tail between his legs. Regardless of where he was defeated, he should've been knocked out/restrained and thrown in prison for years. In fact, considering the corruption and how often super villains escape in Gotham, it would be even better for him to be locked up ib Metropolis or Central City.
@@amanpreetgill7564Yeah if he has terrible writing to back him up. The very foundation of Injustice is so silly billy. The concept that Superman could be thinking he's fighting Doomsday but somehow Doomsday isn't super strong, super durable, super fast, weighs like a feather, and isnt giving off two heartbeats from Lois and the Baby along with people like Wonder Woman and Flash doing nothing to stop him. Etc. Etc. Yet he still goes full force against him. Also how there's like 5k different ways to ressurect a character when you get to the Justice League level power of DC but no one went "hey Superman, lets put her in a lazarus pit lmao" Also I cant see why Doomsday would be Superman's greatest fear. I would assume it would be something like the death of his parents or maybe causing others to fear him. There's nothing unique about Doomsday compared to anyone thats killed Superman like Zod or what not. I like the games and there's good moments in the comic but nah, everything involving the Joker is terribly handled. I'm sure there's some way it couldve possibly worked but the plan Joker went with and how well it worked was awful.
@@airraverstazI believe the instance he's talking about is a recent one shot comic when Joker tried to blow up Metropolis and Superman absolutely bullied the shit out of him. You can find a reading of the comic by typing "Superman Humbles the Joker" on youtube
Some random villian, "Imma rob Central City!" Flash "Sup, heard you talking smack." Another random villian, "Imma merc the Flash! And have a plan that WILL work!" Literally the entirety of D.C. Universe's Heroes and Villians at their worst, "ArE yOU SurE AbOuT tHaT?!"
The psttern i seem to find is flash villians understand that idea. They know flash can solve a problem in a second, so if they want to pull something they need to have a plan b, and plan b for the plan b Example, here Jokers plan is simple, just laughing gas bombs and thats it. With batman he doesnt need to plan more than that. But with flash he does If it were someone like trickster, he would set a trap in case flash tries to disperse the laughing gas, or something that activates once he finsishes
I want to see a comic where the flash just stops messing around and just fixes everything in an afternoon lol he could just clean up every city and speeds all the real villains to jail.
"With Superman, _you're going to jail!_ With Batman, you may show up with a busted up face and some broken bones! But, with Flash, it's like he comes at you from this position that _he knows_ you could be better! It's just makes ya _feel bad,_ y'know?" I call it the "what if your beloved grandmother could see you now" method of crime fighting, lol
And the time Riddler showed up in Bart's town and got owned without Bart even knowing who he was. Bombs scattered across an area don't work so great against someone moving faster than the speed of sound.
which is funny because a big part of jokers deal is that he and the batvills get out because gotham is intrinsically corrupt, in a functioning city he would actually stay in the cell. of course, he's popular and they need him to sell books. but in-universe logic, they would have jurisdiction for a crime committed in central.
@ryanweible9090 plus I've seen people mention that the reason Joker even gets out of Gotham's prisons so much or doesn't get the death penalty is that Jersey, which Gotham is based on, doesn't have the death penalty. Makes me curious how that'd go in other cities if he was arrested and they didn't have those two things in Joker's favor
Reminds me of a fan theory for the campier Flashes with jokes for rouges; namely that everytime he witness or finds out about a murder he's unable to stop in Central that he gets upset over the Flash goes back in time and erases the baddie from ever existing by ensuring their parents never meet.
The Rogues being generally less vicious than other supervillains plays into this so well. Clever tricks are a better weapon than brutality against a man who can damn near freeze time from his perspective.
I like the idea introduced in the Young Justice Universe. Where heros and villians never go after each other on a personal level, there are lines that they don't cross because of self preservation. The Joker attacking the flash on a level that high would totally be a deal breaker.
@@RomanvonUngernSternbergnrmfvusfr. Rural cops don’t fuck around, cause there’s only a handful of them and are VERY territorial and have to police a bunch of other territorial gun nuts that just itching to use their 12 gauge on someone.
I mean, maybe. But that's not where the big scores are. You could rob the bank in Smallville I guess, but what's the point? You'll get WAY bigger hauls in Gotham, and far more robberies go through there than get interrupted. Batman is usually too busy fighting Bane to prevent him from nuking the ISS or some crazy bullshit to bother with small crimes.
Joker is terrified of Bart Allen (Impulse, Barry’s grandson), he made Joker surrender and flee to Batman for safety. Bart never even fought or realizes Joker was a villain, just thought he was a clown. Annoyed him so much he surrendered.
Knowing how dangerous Joker is and what it's going to be If Flash isn't there, i'm not suprised if Flash goes straight to the batcave and roast him about not be able to taking care his own trash.
What were the 3 main codes for the flash villains? 1. Never kill, injure, or harm anyone trying to stop them. 2. Never deal drugs to kids. 3. Never ever kill any of the Flash
The thing about it the flash cares enough villains to actually give them help. Quiet as it’s kept they somewhat in their twisted way have love/hate relationship with the flash. It’s almost Batman level if he went missing the villains would be emotionally broke.
Flash is the heart and soul of the DC Universe. As long as there's a Flash running around, there's hope and levity. But as soon as one dies, as soon as that heart and soul is taken, the universe just goes to shit. From that moment, it's on sight around the clock, no mercy no items one stock friendly fire mandatory.
Technically the fifth. Christina Molotava was the fourth. You might even go with the sixth, if you count Jesse Quick being named Wally's successor during Terminal Velocity.
1 frame, the joker smoke starting to disperse, second frame yellow lightning surrounding the joker smoke, third frame joker in gotham with suitcases (the rest of the bombs are in them)
If you search through the comics, you will find out that most of the flashes Human rogues are just weirdos who came off their meds temporarily. There are actual scenes where the flesh is talking to one of his rogues and asked him if he came off his meds and the dude is like. "Yeah, they make me feel weird."
Being a villain in central city is probably the biggest flex in the hall of doom if they let you in and don't just laugh in your face. The rouges are very tricky and can be extremely dangerous to the point they even scare themselves. Sad thing is pretty much all of the rouges were normal guys who had a chance to drop the life of crime but to an extent the flash being present in their lives has been seen as a sort of challenger in their eyes. Many of them don't even really have a long game in mind if they actually pull off their plans it's just habit for them at this point and they are usually expecting the flash to show up and they try to beat him but they all know how it's gonna pan out every time so they usually aren't even mad when they get caught by him but that's probably mostly due to the fact that the flash is a nice guy and he tries not to physically hurt people and he will even show up for the rouges and help them in their lives as he wants them to just live a normal life and be with their families.
‘You have to be pretty brave to do something in central and key stone city considering you have to deal with 4 flashes and one kid with super strength’ meanwhile Bart Allen the 3rd flash being killed by those same criminals 💀
bonus points for Najubas track , found that album when a lot of things in my life departed- it just captures the meaning of "fleeting moments", probs why it works well on a Flash short, sadly so did artist, rip
Remember back when Impulse had his own series and The Riddler told him he’d put a bomb under someone’s porch somewhere in the city. And then Impulse just handed him the bomb in the next frame.
The flash lets them, the rogues are almost exclusively mentally ill or wronged in some way, and every flash knows that nothing they do will be something he can't stop or will actually hurt people, so he plays into the delusion while trying to ease them back into a normal life, its kinda like a Play at this point
I like The Rogues, always have. Cap'n Cold was a killer in the Injustice video games. Absolute Zero is dope AF. & it was great when The Rogues murdered Bart Allen. 👏 bravo
I just really love the idea that heroes whenever heroes take on another heroes rouges gallery they just stomp it. There is a really great tumblr post about Batman and Spiderman switching cities for a while that suggests that either would completely counter the others villains becuase of their different methods and attitudes.
That one person who pissed the Flash off so much, The Flash didn't freeze him in time, he slowed him down so much, that he blinks once, every hundred or so years.
I have to say I love your videos man they got me back into comics and they’re some of my y favorite and some of the best short form content on this platform
The Rouges work so well because of how they plan and operate as a whole. They don’t just run up to a bank, blast the door in and try to run out the back after stealing the money, they have checks and balances if and WHEN then speedster shows up. They know how to keep the flash off balance both physically and mentally, stretching him to his limits and even then they know they have to have a 3rd or 4th plan in place for their escape route. It’s why the big bands always invite the entire gang instead of just Cold or Mirror Master. And yeah don’t kill a speedster, because then you have everyone and their mama chasing after you, and you most definitely don’t want to run into the Uncle or Nephew of any said speedster because they might just put you in perpetually limbo for all of eternity just to say they didn’t actually kill you
Joker doesn't mess around with the Flash cause he's a street level villain so he fights against a street level hero. If you think about it Batman could stop 1 of the Rogues at time, maybe 2 or 3 but not the whole team. We saw how Batman villains are never a match for speedsters: when Riddler did the clever thing of going out of Gotham when the No Man's Land occured he went against Impulse, the problem was that Impulse was so fast that he found all of Riddler's bombs in a second and so dumb that he didn't know what a riddle was
Also it's just not as fun for Riddler. He wants to prove he's smarter than people. A lot of Flashes would have no problem admitting that, while still stopping his plans.
@@zehkiel8018 to Riddler's defense he had to choose between staying in Gotham during No Man's Land or just going away in a more safe place where people don't fight for territory and food. He did the smart choice
@@niccoloproia3678 Oh for sure. But that's still really not the city for him. Can't scratch that itch of proving his superiority over other top tier intellects. Maybe he could eventually settle in, but I don't see the rogues taking that kindly, nor do I see him submitting to the rules of criminal activities in Central City.
@@zehkiel8018 i agree, after all Riddler is a Batman villain first and foremost. About the Rogues not liking him i'm not totally convinced, Riddler (when written properly) is usually the less murderous Batman villain after Catwoman. Sure he's a megalomaniacal diva but i don't think the Rogues will despise him more than other (worse) guys operating in Central City like Gorilla Grodd or Abra Kadabra.
I have always appreciated how fundamentally different Flash's Rogues's Gallery is from Batman's. I am not sure if that. was DC intent but it has made both characters more interesting over the years.
I made up a character that I like to daydream about that comes to odds with superheroes from whatever franchise I set him in. Even he acknowledges the flash as pretty much the only significant threat/hindrance.
Speedsters are crazy overpowered. Considering Superman vs Flash had this reveal where Flash said "me and any other Flash you've raced have been holding back, this is how fast I can really go!" and instantly won the race in the blink of an eye.
Back in the day the Joker went up against Impulse and Impulse didn't even try to play Joker's game. He didn't even let Joker finish his speech. Impulse simply searched the entire city and found every bomb the Joker had planted before the Joker finished explaining his scheme.
