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THIS IS WHY YOU COME OVER THE TOP...DO THIS TO FIX IT 

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In this video Jim explains why you come over the top, it's easy to fix when you pay attention to your anatomy.
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@meredithayaun6353
@meredithayaun6353 Год назад
Hi Jim! Thank you for such a clear explanation! I went to the range and hit solid shots that were so pure! I have been open using a mass swing, I hit the ball bullet straight but not as far as I would like. I was really using my mass to crush the ball!!!! I am 65 and a women and know this is the way for me to go. I have been teaching golf full time since 1989. I played the Women's European Tour for 10 years and won the 1986 Scottish Open. This is a breath of fresh air! Thank you
@MrEagle8697
@MrEagle8697 3 месяца назад
I'm gonna throw in my kudos to Jim. I used massively struggle with over the top. It stunned me when I started trying the swing how hard my former baseball pitcher right side wanted in on the action. It was like watching an autonomous entity activate in my swing. I've been able to slowly shift the balance to my left. Golf is soooo much easier and more fun now. It's legit.
@metropacks
@metropacks 4 года назад
I've improved. Trying to make sure that my left shoulder is coming up instead of left on my downswing. So many ppl. Are trying to convince me to go back into a traditional swing & they're hitting the ball so inconsistently where I'm finishing with superb balance, ball striking, & tight draws all day. Thanks Jim
@fredfarmer8854
@fredfarmer8854 6 месяцев назад
The minute Jim says" sorry i talk a lot I've got something to say." You feel how passionate he is about his teaching methods.
@thebaccaratfather
@thebaccaratfather 3 года назад
This swing is legit!!! I use to do remax long drive competitions so have always had a long powerful swing. I started blocking everything right though and wanted to get rid of it. I remember seeing Jim's swing years ago and finally decided to give it a shot. I knew it would shorten my swing by staying still but I am actually hitting it even farther now with a draw. I would definitely join the academy vs teaching myself this swing. Unfortunately I had already purchased another online course that did not work, and I value my marriage. (My wife obviously doesn't understand the feeling of hitting a power draw) Priceless. If you have a steep swing give this a shot, the game will be fun again. My only thought now is start it right because I know its drawing back.
@andykoh8893
@andykoh8893 6 месяцев назад
The best golf coaching I have ever watched-cheers!
@cwford3577
@cwford3577 4 года назад
Wow, makes sense. Looking forward to trying this out and I dig Jim’s teaching style.
@alanchristie8897
@alanchristie8897 4 года назад
Another great video. Been in the academy for a year now, and I’m loving golf again. Anyone not sure whether to get instruction from Jim should go for it. Loving the shot tracer Jim. Keep the videos coming 👍
@michaelplunnkett1295
@michaelplunnkett1295 3 года назад
Luv this Jim as a great exercise on the range. I really like over-emphasizing my swing/body/shoulders as a exercise. Can’t wait to take this one to range today
@mcgillgolfbox
@mcgillgolfbox 4 года назад
Excellent description & explanation .. and nice shot tracer !! :) cheers Jim
@fredericktomolillo8961
@fredericktomolillo8961 4 года назад
Can't wait to try it...feels strong and comfortable Thank you
@savaii4menow
@savaii4menow 4 года назад
And that's my stand n Swing. Nice and Thank you.
@RalphCecere
@RalphCecere Месяц назад
I watched several of Jim's videos and decided to implement his method to only get AWESOME results! I practiced chip shots first and then went to the range to hit PW and 7i. My dispersion was tight! Hitting a draw became effortless. I went thru about 75 balls and maybe mishit a few. The whole 'sesh' was effortless. The setup works out of the gate, I'm freakin' out on this. Gonna work my way up to driver going thru the bag. Jim you're such a cool cat man! Love the vibes, so mellow: Closed Stance, Weight on Lead Leg, Keep shoulders closed and Swing with a STILL CORE. DUDE YOU ROCK! Love from Montreal, Canada
@jimvenetosgolf
@jimvenetosgolf Месяц назад
Halo oui! Keep up the good work! Love Montreal 🙏
@RalphCecere
@RalphCecere Месяц назад
@@jimvenetosgolf Where are you located?
@jimvenetosgolf
@jimvenetosgolf Месяц назад
@@RalphCecere southern Maine for half the year
@miketaylor4652
@miketaylor4652 4 года назад
Love how you pet your dogs before you talk to us shows your a dog lover 😊
@TKB231
@TKB231 Год назад
OMG ... this is the best explanation of over the top I've ever seen or heard. Thankyou Mr. Venetos !
@presscyrus7547
@presscyrus7547 2 года назад
Thank you so much, Sir Jim Venetos.
@mikethomas9555
@mikethomas9555 6 месяцев назад
Jim, I have been working with this swing on my simulator for the last few weeks. I have to say, I have never felt such compression on my irons. My ball flight has been a draw , and my ball speed has increased considerably. I have never been a long hitter, but I can see how this swing will give me better distance. My feel is , I set up weight on my left foot and leave it there. The more still I am , the better compression I get. ⛳️
@justsomeguy7540
@justsomeguy7540 4 года назад
Jim' you are a guru, you have a charismatic way of teaching and 100 percent back what you say, thanks for making the golf swing alot simpler
@dogloverjb6873
@dogloverjb6873 3 года назад
Great insight about human anatomy.... for the golf swing.
@courtneyroy270
@courtneyroy270 Год назад
Nice guy, and a genius, your not doing bad Jim, thanks man.
@hernanduarte3779
@hernanduarte3779 3 года назад
Jim... nuevamente yo desde Patagonia Argentina... lo tuyo es Fantastico!!!
@reggie1251
@reggie1251 2 года назад
I have been playing around with this for most of the summer with some success. The ball striking is certainly better, but I have been drawing or hooking the ball 30, 35 yards to the left on the range so I have been reluctant to take it to the course. In studying Jim's video I noticed his right arm folds in the backswing where as I have been trying to keep my right arm as straight as possible, using my wrists to cock the club. Once I started consciously folding my right arm on the backswing I started hitting the ball a lot straighter with a tight little draw that Jim talks about. I am really excited about using Jim's method.
@whitefang9309
@whitefang9309 Год назад
Jim got a thank you been doing this technique really helps me tremendously keep up the great videos
@quietlivingman3361
@quietlivingman3361 4 года назад
As always on point.
@hardrockminer-50
@hardrockminer-50 4 года назад
First time I've seen someone talk about the natural dominent side! I recognized this several yrs ago & thought why not try it letting my dominant side take control like it wants to. Didn't work! Too many yrs batting right handed I guess. Could not do it. Gotta try this. Jumping on the left side to to talk the right side into following along...
@waymoreblues
@waymoreblues 4 года назад
Jim, thanks for these excellent tips. My golf swing is cured and my body isn’t shot after playing 18 holes. Now I can play 36 easily and I’m almost 49 years old.
@randoshus3762
@randoshus3762 4 года назад
With the short irons I've never hit it as crisp as with the Venetos swing. I lag putt better with my right arm just like you said...
@gRaindog58
@gRaindog58 4 года назад
When the student is ready, the teacher appears. I found Jim before I had lost hope but as a result of injury. My right knee and groin we suffering from my instantiation of the traditional swing. Jim’s swing is the elegant solution.
@macleryy
@macleryy 4 года назад
Already Shared it. Good luck to me. Good Video!!!!
@acadieux000
@acadieux000 Год назад
You are soooo brilliant!!!!
@philbrown4279
@philbrown4279 4 года назад
CLICK!!! Absolutely makes sense!
@redghost3170
@redghost3170 Месяц назад
I studied this method and knocked 12 strokes off of my game. It works.
@fredfarmer8854
@fredfarmer8854 5 месяцев назад
Keep doing what you're doing Mister Venetos.
@jimvenetosgolf
@jimvenetosgolf 5 месяцев назад
Fred! I have a funny story about you that you’ll enjoy. Email me through my school if you like, I’ll explain
@rickandersen707
@rickandersen707 3 года назад
I've been a high handicapped golfer for many years....around 16 - 20......took up Jim's system about 3 weeks ago....played Sunday Dec 20 th....scored 42 pts in a stableford event at our local golf course off a 17 handicap.....so I had played the course to an 11 handicap.....this set up has given me what I was searching for.....so I'll stick with it.... BTW......the right foot usually aches after golf.....the last 3 weeks or so....not quite as much pain in the ankle......Thanks mate......sent from Australia
@orkayen
@orkayen 3 года назад
for driver and 3 wood, where do you keep the ball? He says we don't need to hit up for the driver. So, I am curious.
@bwinms1
@bwinms1 3 месяца назад
Good stuff
@salinger007
@salinger007 2 года назад
Jim, Thanks so much for all your videos. Everything you say makes perfect sense. The thing I still struggle with, however, is that "magic moment" when the swing is for real. Practice swings and most range swings are good, but that very dominant right hand wants to come into my swing when I'm hitting the shot that counts - even though I'm putting it in a subordinate position. This doesn't happen all the time, just when it seems the shot matters most. If you have any ideas about how I can deal with this, let me know. You're set up position and artistic approach to golf has made golf very enjoyable again.
@jimvenetosgolf
@jimvenetosgolf 2 года назад
I do. Sign up for my school and let me fix that. I’ll get you sorted.
@609_
@609_ 2 года назад
Superb.
@amorabito1
@amorabito1 4 года назад
Jim. when you said "you know who you are" at 8:56 I raised my hand!
@jimvenetosgolf
@jimvenetosgolf 4 года назад
Anthony Morabito you’re not alone but you’re insightful enough to acknowledge it and that will start the change for you.
@30secondgolflessons
@30secondgolflessons Год назад
One of my fav teachers! #AGB
@paulwilfridhunt
@paulwilfridhunt 3 года назад
You’re great
@DunnGolfing
@DunnGolfing 4 года назад
Middle knows middle 👍 you stay behind the ball at all times even after impact and then your stuff makes sense use your 2 Half's to work together no worries 👍
@jimvenetosgolf
@jimvenetosgolf 4 года назад
I don't think you understand what I teach. No staying behind the ball here.
@groundcontrol9422
@groundcontrol9422 4 месяца назад
Yay for me ... ! ... I'm a lefty playing right handed clubs ... 😅 .....
@nol_clss
@nol_clss 4 года назад
Wow Jim that’s huge and all very important to understand as a golfer/student- a great lesson and way to empower your students- that includes the prior video also, super cool videos! You truly are a giver of many usable and valuable knowledge in golf learning and development. Your method- stillness is amazingly a beautiful way to golf. So powerful yet played so effortlessly. I hope everyone who follows you understands that there’s so much more you could do to help them when they sign up with the academy. Wishing all and everyone the very best of luck for the contest. Sweet range finder!!
@nol_clss
@nol_clss 4 года назад
New pup!
@mylesbumgarner9394
@mylesbumgarner9394 4 года назад
Interesting
@lifesaver3499
@lifesaver3499 Месяц назад
Hi Jim, I will try to keep my left leg as still as yours in the backswing ..could you do a video on keeping your legs still (vs traditional swing) and a video on head position and on keeping the head still ..more face on shots in that video perhaps ..cheers!!
@terrymccusker7779
@terrymccusker7779 Месяц назад
Jim I have to ask …are you sponsored by Converse? Side note 1964 my best friend & I were the first to have black low cut converse in Milwaukee Wisconsin , we were both Boston Celtic fans… all the best Brother !!!
@andrewthompson545
@andrewthompson545 3 года назад
I tried ur method to day n hit it effortlessly, uv deff got sumthang, wish i live near n id join ur training facility
@jimvenetosgolf
@jimvenetosgolf 3 года назад
If you live near an internet connection, you can join the school and it will feel like an in person training experience.
@andrewthompson545
@andrewthompson545 3 года назад
Ill join if ur a dog lover especially a mastiff guy
@holyster2285
@holyster2285 4 года назад
Thats really what Is changing my swing nowdays... My brain ,when i reach the top of backswing, always tells to my body to reach the ball with my right Hand,but this generate only over the top move. The only way for me Is to think to initiate the downswing with my left hand keeping my backside to target as long as i can. You are the first one to speak about the dominant side and you are completly right, always trained my right side a LOT more than my left
@michaelplunnkett1295
@michaelplunnkett1295 3 года назад
I’ve only played golf two years and in that time I never think about my arms only my shoulders/slot and arms simply follow
@holyster2285
@holyster2285 3 года назад
@@michaelplunnkett1295 it's not about your thoughts, it's how your body react istinctively. Golf isn't about istinct, because if you follow that,you ll probably fall in a "mind error" wich will cause a problem on your swing. If you can dominate your istinct, with the right practice, you can reach a good golf swing. That's my thought obviously
@burtveracruz
@burtveracruz 3 года назад
I have a low handicap but for years I've struggled with an unwanted fade, relying purely on tempo and take off planes to hit the ball solid. This changes everything. I'm using a slight hybrid of this technique and my natural swing.
@jimvenetosgolf
@jimvenetosgolf 3 года назад
You’d do better not to try to hybrid this swing. Just perform it as I describe and you’ll hit the ball better than you can imagine.
@burtveracruz
@burtveracruz 3 года назад
@@jimvenetosgolf You're actually right. I play racquetball and I realize that the same mechanics I use in the racquetball swing mirror your set up. And it's powerful.
@ENCXBG1
@ENCXBG1 3 года назад
Golf swings by Negan!
@TheGolfster3
@TheGolfster3 3 года назад
I am a right handed person playing left handed clubs. I have been told to switch since I started this god forsake game :-). Taken this into account, would your method apply to me in this situation?
@GolfTestDummy
@GolfTestDummy 4 года назад
Definitely going to share the video, but only because I hope 1 more person is moved to contact you.
@StayConsistant
@StayConsistant 4 года назад
Would love to see a video of him playing a round like one of your videos. Nice to see the technique on the course.
@kymstock1852
@kymstock1852 4 года назад
Shared to my 3 golf buddies
@maeu59
@maeu59 4 года назад
Cody Bishop yes good idea!
@nol_clss
@nol_clss 4 года назад
Seen him tee off many times and a few times in same round. Definitely graceful and plays beautiful golf often in the 60s and low 70s.
@StayConsistant
@StayConsistant 4 года назад
@@nol_clss that's awesome. Not a doubter or skeptic. Would just love to see a YT video of it. Feel like it would also get many more views and followers.
@thomasgaudet6940
@thomasgaudet6940 4 года назад
Well I be !
@TheBanjoFlyBoy
@TheBanjoFlyBoy 3 года назад
Diggin' your videos🏌🏼 However, I am curious as to how you collect your range balls from that rocky lunar like surface😜⛳️
@jimvenetosgolf
@jimvenetosgolf 3 года назад
Trained lizards
@andrewthompson545
@andrewthompson545 3 года назад
We had low sun today and high winds, i lost sight off ball, wen i got to greens i was in middle, freaky...
@kieranhimself3655
@kieranhimself3655 3 года назад
When you talked about left handed golfer playing right handed clubs. Thats my father he is left handed uses right handed clubs but has a left handed grip ha ha he plays off 2
@Pfbauman
@Pfbauman 8 месяцев назад
I am beginning to use this swing technique and have found it to be the best positioning for my aging body and arthritic left (trail) side. I am curious, do you initiate the downswing with your hips or lead shoulder first? I was a former student of Graves Golf Academy and could never be successful with their kind of swing originally developed by Moe Norman. Your type of swing makes far more sense than theirs. I will very likely become a student of yours.
@jimvenetosgolf
@jimvenetosgolf 8 месяцев назад
Tip of the iceberg. I don’t actively initiate the downswing. I create a spring from stillness. All explained in my school. Looking forward to helping you with your game. 👊
@jetviser
@jetviser Год назад
I understand setting the body 45d closed. Do we drop back the trail foot in the process (i.e., so the alignment of the feet matches the 45d closed angle)?
@jimvenetosgolf
@jimvenetosgolf Год назад
Yes. Your feet will help you to hold your shoulders closed through impact.
@rons.5173
@rons.5173 3 месяца назад
See Lee Trevino. This is hilarious.
@bmatt9379
@bmatt9379 19 дней назад
Question for people using Jim’s swing- are your clubs normal lie or upright? Mine are regular, but I used my son’s recently- his are 2* upright and I seemed to hit my iron shots a little better. Does this make sense?
@jimvenetosgolf
@jimvenetosgolf 18 дней назад
@@bmatt9379 your lie angle is related to your body proportions, your swing path and your club head speed. The swing I teach creates a shallow swing path and a high club head speed. The higher the chs, the more upright your lie would need to be.
@ManofOrthodoxy
@ManofOrthodoxy Месяц назад
should a lot of right handed players play with left handed clubs?
@michaeld6061
@michaeld6061 3 года назад
I’d like to see if you are missing the target to the right as the ball is starting off where you are aiming and you are relying on a draw to bring it back.
@jimvenetosgolf
@jimvenetosgolf 3 года назад
Michael D that’s funny, do you think I would use or teach a swing that would miss the ball right? Watch more of my videos and you’ll see that my stock action always starts the ball on the same line and draws 2 yards.
@michaeld6061
@michaeld6061 3 года назад
Jim Venetos Golf Academy I’d hope not but alignment would be different to a classical swing. Do you line your feet to the target and then you turn so that your shoulders are closed to the target and the result is a draw back to the target. I suggest that it would help in your videos to show where the target is and how to consistently align so that the result is at the target. The mat is aligned with the camera but you are setting up to hit the ball way right; it would help if you were hitting straight down the camera line.
@jimvenetosgolf
@jimvenetosgolf 3 года назад
Michael D I appreciate your insight. You are watching free videos I put out on yt. In my school I go into great detail about the system I teach. Sign up for the school, change your game and make all the requests you’d like.
@alleyoop2017
@alleyoop2017 4 года назад
I didn't know Negan gives golf lessons. Lol.
@RockWonder210
@RockWonder210 4 года назад
alley oop We all give golf lesson
@geemac7267
@geemac7267 3 года назад
Exactly what I thought.
@jp_arrazola
@jp_arrazola 3 года назад
What do you do if you want to hit a fade?
@jimvenetosgolf
@jimvenetosgolf 3 года назад
Fades are easy when your stock shot is a draw. Sign up for my school to learn the fade.
@youngchung922
@youngchung922 3 года назад
Everyone is struggling to play good golf including me. According to mr jim, Golf is so simple,don't have to learn complicated and unnatural hard theories. looks so natural and simple. even life llong golfing,often all of sudden loses what i have been doing. the golf should not be that way.
@Mr.mallaer
@Mr.mallaer 4 года назад
This is absolutely correct. What golfers call right handed clubs are in reality left handed clubs and left handed swing. Also the dominant hand does not like being under the non dominant hand. I used to play tennis and two hands on the racket usually meant backhand with dominant right hand on top. I started playing golf and two hands on the club with dominant side in front and dominant hand in my case the right hand on top, and everyone started claiming that I was left handed. I could hit the ball perfectly well just with my right hand. Eventually they convinced me to switch to so called right handed. It took me months for hands to agree that dominant hands should be in an inferior position. The right hand always wanted to snatch the club out of the left hand. Eventually I learned how to play left handed or what they call in golf mistakenly the right handed. It’s much easier to get left handed than right handed equipment, and people don’t constantly ask me stupid questions about me supposedly being left handed. I am using left handed equipment and swing now but call it right handed and everything is good.
@Mr.mallaer
@Mr.mallaer 4 года назад
I did forget to mention that I lost some of the swing speed by going lefty.
@jimvenetosgolf
@jimvenetosgolf 4 года назад
Mil Sneler if you’re losing distance, I can fix that. jimvenetosgolfacademy.com
@carryk9222
@carryk9222 4 года назад
interesting.. but how do you get speed
@jimvenetosgolf
@jimvenetosgolf 4 года назад
carry k circular swing path and the torque created by staying still.
@toddmccool2601
@toddmccool2601 3 года назад
What do you do when you’re crappy at both ball striking and putting.
@jimvenetosgolf
@jimvenetosgolf 3 года назад
Sign up for my school and that will be thing of your past
@Duane422
@Duane422 Год назад
when you say close your stance i cant really tell how you are doing that bc i dont know where you are aimed
@chad8928
@chad8928 3 года назад
Jim, r u a PGA professional?
@jimvenetosgolf
@jimvenetosgolf 3 года назад
I was in the PGA, left it because all they focussed on was marketing and interpersonal skills...no golf instruction, no club building, no tournament golf.
@ParTeeCupGolf
@ParTeeCupGolf 3 года назад
So if it is difficult to use our left hand as dominant and if I cannot do it what so Ever, should I switch to lefty so I can use my dominant right hand? Anyone switch to lefty clubs to use right hand dominate and lead side?
@jimvenetosgolf
@jimvenetosgolf 3 года назад
Mat Stepis don’t switch sides. It’s not about your dominant hand, it’s about your perception for swinging the club. If you switch sides you’ll likely continue to do the same thing. I suggest signing up for my school. I help golfers like you all the time.
@ParTeeCupGolf
@ParTeeCupGolf 3 года назад
Do you have to live where you do business? Or can it be online? I live in Denver Colorado. More info on the class.
@jimvenetosgolf
@jimvenetosgolf 3 года назад
Mat Stepis I’ve been teaching virtually for 8 years. We will work online and it will feel like I’m at your side.
@1slander1970
@1slander1970 4 года назад
Question....does the use of bladed irons increase the shot shape?
@jimvenetosgolf
@jimvenetosgolf 4 года назад
1slander1970 first may I adjust your lexicon..blades or blade irons. Second, the difference between blades and perimeter weighted clubs is blades are less forgiving than the others. Other factors effect your shot shape than just the head such as the shaft flex and offset so your question is a bit incomplete.
@samuelbm87
@samuelbm87 4 года назад
This looks like the place where I got my only speeding ticket-- Ely county, Nevada
@jimvenetosgolf
@jimvenetosgolf 4 года назад
samuelbm87 Never been there
@caseyturnbaugh9484
@caseyturnbaugh9484 4 года назад
Where is that? Death Valley?
@plentyofouts
@plentyofouts 4 года назад
How does a baseball pitcher throw it straight with the right arm and a body that’s well open at the point of release? Shouldn’t they all miss the plate 10 yards left?
@jimvenetosgolf
@jimvenetosgolf 4 года назад
plentyofouts is this before or after they throw out their shoulder from the misuse of their arms?
@plentyofouts
@plentyofouts 4 года назад
Jim Venetos Golf Academy Its world class athletics. A shelf life comes with the gig. Unless your suggesting world class performance without a physical cost.
@jimvenetosgolf
@jimvenetosgolf 4 года назад
plentyofouts a little leaguer can throw out their shoulder so not sure if you’re choosing the correct example. Try something where both hands are on the implement. If you’re just looking to argue, please move on. What I teach is proven at all levels.
@plentyofouts
@plentyofouts 4 года назад
Jim Venetos Golf Academy Not just trolling man. Interested in any different perspective. Appreciate what your saying. Has merit and at least worthy of consideration. I’ve just found that looking at true functional commonalities between the highest level ball strikers is the best way to discover the deepest truths about highest optimal level ball striking. And tremendous rotation (from Hogan, Trevino, Palmer to Dustin Johnson, Garcia, Koepka) seems to practically be an axiomatic fundamental.
@jimvenetosgolf
@jimvenetosgolf 4 года назад
plentyofouts high jumpers previously went over the bar belly first. Maybe what the pros are doing isn’t ideal since zero percent of the golf population can replicate it. Try it before you state your case. You’ll thank me.
@ewanharrison4007
@ewanharrison4007 3 года назад
Hi, it would be great to see where you are aiming exactly before you pívot round. It looks like you have the club head aiming where you want to go with your shoulders and feet aiming right. It would be great to see this with a long iron and driver too!
@jimvenetosgolf
@jimvenetosgolf 3 года назад
All in my school, sign up and enjoy!
@chairmanmeow3693
@chairmanmeow3693 4 года назад
There should have been some Star Wars music at the beginning
@wreckim
@wreckim 4 года назад
Or Tommy Lee Jones is still looking for The Fugitive.
@TheWhatYouNeed
@TheWhatYouNeed 3 года назад
Man.. Mel Gibson really living in the middle of nowhere
@michaelthorpe1869
@michaelthorpe1869 3 года назад
George Carlin's brother?
@dry509
@dry509 4 года назад
You didn’t look like you pivoted at the end...it looked like a conventional swing.
@ljbrandt500
@ljbrandt500 4 года назад
That was a lot of taking to say to keep your weight planted on you left foot through the swing??
@jimvenetosgolf
@jimvenetosgolf 4 года назад
ljbrandt500 glad you enjoyed it
@RBMasih
@RBMasih 4 года назад
Boring lesson. Do you ever swing the club?
@jimvenetosgolf
@jimvenetosgolf 4 года назад
rajan masih your comment suggests that, you don’t like hearing a concept and you haven’t dug very deep into my channel...I’ll await your response once you do your due diligence.
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