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This Japanese Combo Leaves Me Genuinely Speechless 

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@TheErick211_
@TheErick211_ 4 месяца назад
this can easily be beaten by an early surrender
@TheErick211_
@TheErick211_ 4 месяца назад
You avoid the humiliation
@JanaenLola
@JanaenLola 4 месяца назад
That’s funny 🤣
@benzerbenzou6475
@benzerbenzou6475 4 месяца назад
Actually it s easily beaten by a well managed very early Feudal All in
@aaabatteries9948
@aaabatteries9948 3 месяца назад
and the early surrender can easily be beaten by just uninstalling the game
@KonnorGann
@KonnorGann 4 месяца назад
I LOVE THAT THE 1v1 CONTENT IS BACK
@dibrown2404
@dibrown2404 4 месяца назад
This felt like a throw from Miriam. This comp seems pretty vulnerable to maa/spear/archer. The army value was almost twice as much for the Japanese player, that is what caused the steam roll He was heavily outnumbered and was way over extended. Just felt like he needed to chill in his base and let the 2 TC cook some more
@TheBeefPudding
@TheBeefPudding 3 месяца назад
isnt it myriad? lol
@apache7delta
@apache7delta 4 месяца назад
As a JP main, thanks for this.. this Strat is immediately going into my tool box.
@soapmctavish4093
@soapmctavish4093 4 месяца назад
japanese civ is in the sultans dlc right ?? then how these players play these new civs like order of dragons ,byzantines or japanese??? even before it was released
@MacAaron
@MacAaron 4 месяца назад
​@@soapmctavish4093it was realesed months ago
@corycosta6257
@corycosta6257 4 месяца назад
@@soapmctavish4093there was a small group with early access for balance testing, but you have to buy it now to have access.
@nguyenhongquang6397
@nguyenhongquang6397 4 месяца назад
@@soapmctavish4093 The DLC was released on the 15th of November 2023. What do you mean?
@soapmctavish4093
@soapmctavish4093 3 месяца назад
@@nguyenhongquang6397 Idk i thought it was released just now
@twin4o
@twin4o 4 месяца назад
"It's not a question of if, it's a question of... Sorry, it's not a question of when, it's a question of... " - WHAT!? :D
@bmoore117
@bmoore117 4 месяца назад
I think the counter here was simple. make units. Myriad despite having a 30 villager lead just didn't seem to be making enough. A lot of it had to do with rallying them out piecemeal and losing them, but still. Make units + get a keep, to then get network of citadels. At that point men-at-arms + crossbow would have shredded
@johnnypenso9574
@johnnypenso9574 2 месяца назад
A keep costs you 8MAA or crossbows in resources + the villagers gathering stone are not gathering gold or food so the opportunity cost is even higher. Building a keep puts you many, many units behind in a game when you are already short on units.
@olegdragora2557
@olegdragora2557 4 месяца назад
Mounted Samurai + Onna Bugeisha is a strong combo for a while, but it is far from being broken and unbeatable. In this game Japanese player had almost double army value of the opponent by the moment of the fight because they stayed on 1 TC, intercepted a lot of reinforcements and saved on Stables. On equal resources Spearmen + Longbowmen will beat this. Later on Spearmen + MAAs + Mangonels, optionally with Crossbowmen depending on the percentage of Mounted Samurai. Or just mass Knights, generally any mixed composition can be countered by massing one unit from this composition. Chinese in particular can also keep up with Yorishiro production bonus using Imperial Officials if they want to compete in tempo.
@chrisnewtownnsw
@chrisnewtownnsw 4 месяца назад
would spears counter ona bugisha with equal resources in a designated fight? As in even if the ona b slightly win they still lost too much gold in order to win?
@olegdragora2557
@olegdragora2557 4 месяца назад
@@chrisnewtownnsw Onna Bugeisha will evaporate Spearmen, because they have extra range so that more of them are attacking at the same time. Interestingly 1 Feudal Onna Bugeisha loses 1v1 to 1 Dark Age Spearman. The Spearmen are there specifically to keep Knights at a distance while other units prevent Onna Bugeisha from diving on Spearmen. This is why Spearmen need to keep moving back and forward to keep them alive to prevent Knights from joining the battle.
@cardgame98
@cardgame98 4 месяца назад
there was not enough time to build mass knights, maybe with white tower double production
@aidieltaufik9954
@aidieltaufik9954 4 месяца назад
Ona only being defeated by landskeinet as chinese no other option you need to use handcanon or ness of beast with lancer or imperial guards or manggonel that the only way the lack is only of cost maybe
@johnnypenso9574
@johnnypenso9574 2 месяца назад
Spears will be shredded by the onas and Samurai in seconds. The Samurai deflect the first hit while the onas swing freely behind them. Once the spears are gone it's free game on the crossbows. Alternately you can send the onas to the spears and bring the knights around. The onas will shred the spears in seconds while the crossbows focus on the Samurai. The gap will be closed quickly and the crossbows overwhelmed.
@qt3326
@qt3326 Месяц назад
ずっとイギリスのハラスに耐えていた日本が女武芸者と騎兵をためて一気にイングランド本陣に切り込むさまは感動的だった 3の歴史的建造物がホワイトタワーならできなかったと思うが内政差が開いても諦めてはいけないと思った いい動画をありがとう
@danthology777
@danthology777 4 месяца назад
As an English main, I can confirm that those mounted samurai are nearly unstoppable. Mounted samurai just flatten their counters. Like Drongo mentioned, the only thing to do is get up to gun powered units but it’s easier said than done. I’ve only pulled it off once.
@alekseykosyanenko5996
@alekseykosyanenko5996 4 месяца назад
Randy can solve this problem :D
@sledmanyamaha4845
@sledmanyamaha4845 4 месяца назад
Very true Randy's solve everything
@RealShaun
@RealShaun 4 месяца назад
Mounted samurais eat randy for breakfast though
@MN-mf2bf
@MN-mf2bf 4 месяца назад
Onna Bugeisha can't melt english MAA since they have 8 melee armor. They would do only 2 damage a pop... MAA + xbow was the right call, but he didn't have the mass
@johnP0908
@johnP0908 4 месяца назад
yeah, he's definitely outnumbered on this one. made sense why the Onna's just pushed through the back line. that MAA line was so thin.
@godwinyo5206
@godwinyo5206 4 месяца назад
MMA to hold the mounted samurai, lansknechts clump with the archers to hold the onna-bugeishas
@jeffbrowngraphics
@jeffbrowngraphics 4 месяца назад
as english??
@leo90au
@leo90au 2 месяца назад
When you raised your voice I got epic Warren Smith vibes lmao! 😂😂.
@sxxon751
@sxxon751 4 месяца назад
I do this combo as a Japanese player, but top it off with the Nehan conversion buff, which makes the ona bugeisha even faster. The counter which I typically loose to is siege and gunpowder units. Ottomans are the worst D:
@stephencook567
@stephencook567 4 месяца назад
As a Rus player I’d go knights and streltsy to try and counter this
@codiserville593
@codiserville593 4 месяца назад
I hope you have a good way of getting that much gold income
@159donat
@159donat 4 месяца назад
you also need imperial age for that stresltsy
@jeromemartel3916
@jeromemartel3916 Месяц назад
@19:19 Mass knight keeps you alive.
@zaramath
@zaramath 4 месяца назад
More 1v1 and 2v2 please!
@Marc-gj9vx
@Marc-gj9vx 4 месяца назад
Lantsneck definitely the best counter to this if you have access to it. Otherwise, archer and crossbow + walls should do it.
@CloudCuckooCountry
@CloudCuckooCountry 4 месяца назад
Army pop was 75 to 50 and the Du Du was using high-DPS units so the pop diff mattered even more. If Myriad hadn't trickled-in reinforcements earlier and hadn't floated over 1000 wood for like 5 minutes, army pops would have been more even and MAA+spear+xbow actually does decent against MSamurai+OB. Myriad also came forward into the mid-map before the last battle, which put him at a disadvantage because Du Du's army is much faster and can force a fight
@jeffbrowngraphics
@jeffbrowngraphics 4 месяца назад
Won 5 games in a row last night in 2v2, my teammate using only royal knights and me using only ona-bugeisha, worked like a charm even against higher ranked opponents.
@USHIQUE
@USHIQUE 4 месяца назад
as chineese i have tried mass grenadier against this, its good, BUT zhuxi with their +1 range and 15% damage bonus really melt infantry and knight mobs, Support with some springs with rollertrigger and that was pretty good. Good dmg vs units and vs buildings too. Works in gold league i guess XD
@dota2freaks
@dota2freaks 4 месяца назад
Juggernaut hell yeah from Dota 2
@TamuSmann
@TamuSmann 4 месяца назад
All your base are belong to us… 2001 song. 1991 game translation.
@ethans92
@ethans92 4 месяца назад
Love it when you referencing HON
@kelleren4840
@kelleren4840 4 месяца назад
Honestly I feel like if Myriad had rallied close to base way, WAY earlier and then sent spears/(cross)bows in groups of 6-7+, he would have just overwhelmed DuDu way before he could get a critical mass, let alone teched up to castle. Sending in stuff 1 at a time absolutely cost him the game.
@HitPointPersonal
@HitPointPersonal 4 месяца назад
This jp tech has been an amazing addition to my toolbox
@henrikalo3379
@henrikalo3379 4 месяца назад
THERE IS A DINOSAUR IN RED'S STARTING BASE!
@khaleds.4651
@khaleds.4651 4 месяца назад
Dorongo:"this combo is unbeatable" Meanwhile, Camel Archers(needs micro), camel lancers, camel riders(decent), desert riders(oh boy): excuse me?
@sirchoob4239
@sirchoob4239 4 месяца назад
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@Spanishflea.
@Spanishflea. 4 месяца назад
So nice to see more Japanese games.
@hl321662
@hl321662 4 месяца назад
TBF Myriad made a big mistake not having full melee armor upgrades against mass bugeisha. Extra 1 armor makes a huge difference against them. The answer to this comp might be knight + spear. Knights beat bugeisha on equal cost and spears helps them trade better against mounted samurai.
@Adribird
@Adribird 4 месяца назад
Archers/spearmen and some english MAA.
@Abraktil
@Abraktil 4 месяца назад
walls ? like a small defensive village around production like gold and farm
@Tom3K_grabarzzzz
@Tom3K_grabarzzzz 4 месяца назад
The only thing that comes to my mind that could beat this is knights and in the back line either archer to snipe buggatis or xbows to snipe samurai
@tattedn9ne360
@tattedn9ne360 Месяц назад
Been struggling with Japan keep getting rolled on. I hope this helps
@NathanMann-eh3wu
@NathanMann-eh3wu 4 месяца назад
Drongo, Outback Octagon 3 👀 whens it coming 👀
@KaminariRazuren
@KaminariRazuren 4 месяца назад
Maybe mass archers spears? Idk
@Marc-gj9vx
@Marc-gj9vx 4 месяца назад
archer + crossbow + layers of walls should do better.
@falldarerise3707
@falldarerise3707 4 месяца назад
im no conq but maybe like you said watch your troop number and play in your base more than in mid but yeah tough combo
@falldarerise3707
@falldarerise3707 4 месяца назад
also aoe4 world is say those melee units are only counter by archers and knights so knights front line archer cross bow back line yeah idk tough to deal with
@manhkhangtran9501
@manhkhangtran9501 4 месяца назад
(RCQ) Đu Đủ have true nick name MeoMaika ( Mèo is mean Cat ). Vietnamese player.
@GrabbaBeer
@GrabbaBeer Месяц назад
a bunch of great bombards and jans will stop it lmao
@JamesJohnson-kl1eu
@JamesJohnson-kl1eu 4 месяца назад
landsneckt wreck it.
@johnnypenso9574
@johnnypenso9574 2 месяца назад
Landsknecht have no ranged armour and get absolutely shredded by Yumi archers with cheap cost and much faster movement speed. Once you kite the lands it's game over. There's a counter for everything.
@Eoin1
@Eoin1 4 месяца назад
Anything with a decent amount of melee armour handles onna bugeisha, so maa, particularly English maa should excel against them. Imo this is not an op combo. Red just made a myriad of mistakes
@chrisnewtownnsw
@chrisnewtownnsw 4 месяца назад
nah you can see combat simulator RU-vid vids where onna bugeisha fight maa and they still win. Maybe against English maa they may or may not win but if they did it would only be slightly better than a neutral trade
@Eoin1
@Eoin1 4 месяца назад
In the case of English, I think maa is the way to go. Other civs would have to rely on their own particular bonuses. Playing with them up against civs that get early knights for example has never felt good to me. Ranged units should work against them if they have a meatshield. It's not a straight-forward answer, and they can be a dangerous unit, but they're certainly not as op as Drongo suggests. This game was lost because red threw away all his reinforcements. Bugeisha trail off in the late game too, so if slightly better than neutral trades is all you can get, then it should be enough
@mnmmnmm
@mnmmnmm 4 месяца назад
@@chrisnewtownnsw english man at arms get +2 melee and ranged armour
@gabrielfernandes-or3lo
@gabrielfernandes-or3lo 4 месяца назад
What if you go knights and archers mixed with crossbiws?
@alierenyuksel2853
@alierenyuksel2853 2 месяца назад
Nowadays I have been seeing malian and japanese duo in 2v2 and if u have any solution to beat them please let me know
@hp1612
@hp1612 4 месяца назад
Đu Đủ in vietnamese is paypaya :D
@codiserville593
@codiserville593 4 месяца назад
Hah, guess that's fun to know
@quano5409
@quano5409 4 месяца назад
@@codiserville593 It is the clan rule or sth, the [RCQ] clantag is an abbrev of [Rau Củ Quả] or [Vegetables and Fruits] so clan members are all renamed into some kind of fruit or veggie
@darneljones8700
@darneljones8700 2 месяца назад
was surprised why no bannerman?
@JuanRuiz-vg6pj
@JuanRuiz-vg6pj 4 месяца назад
I think with Ayubids you go Camel Lancers and mass archers
@sergeybut3812
@sergeybut3812 4 месяца назад
attracting video
@BadMoneyUk
@BadMoneyUk 4 месяца назад
Landschnek and HRE maa (with heavy maces) would rinse this army comp with equal army value
@johnnypenso9574
@johnnypenso9574 2 месяца назад
This would be Samurai and Onas in that case backed up by Ona Musha in castle age. Anyone with any knowledge of the game won't go mounted Samurai against HRE.
@VanGoHAF
@VanGoHAF 3 месяца назад
Baldequins and a castle 😂
@jhndyt
@jhndyt 3 месяца назад
Good stuff
@sokandoteofar8819
@sokandoteofar8819 4 месяца назад
Mass Knights?
@KobuCake
@KobuCake 4 месяца назад
MMA + Pykes ? + 1 mangonel
@calicogrimm6205
@calicogrimm6205 4 месяца назад
Randy only. Let’s go.
@WalrusJones185
@WalrusJones185 4 месяца назад
Light infantry heavy cavalry is an obnoxious damage class combo, as you have few real overlapping counters. The best bet I can see is to have a tanky front line and bring counters for the heavy cavalry. Since generally damage is good against lightly armored units even without counter modifiers, but you aren't going to cost effectively trade with sams without anti-samurai units. Without tanky units to block off the Onna Bugeisha (Who would only do 2 damage to armor clad men at arms,) they are going to shred, as there are few survivable light units. So in a way, all fast attacking good general damage units sort of counter light, as they are awful against highly elevated armor. Musofadi warriors I remember when they had good base attack, as their attack speed was also pretty fast from what I remember.... Remember back when they got spammed? They were an anti heavy unit that had that dangerous combo of swing speed and damage, so they hit that natural "But we hit light too" band of attack speed. I feel like HRE, Ayu/Abba, and byzantines also have ways of hard countering this. Abbasid camels counter both JP unit types here, which is honestly really interesting.
@DragonHeir7
@DragonHeir7 4 месяца назад
As Chinese, mass spears + nest of bees?
@TraibornGames602
@TraibornGames602 4 месяца назад
spears + landSHREKT. thats the answer. Just play HRE xD
@AlVonWolf
@AlVonWolf 4 месяца назад
Do more ffa
@wargumbyx
@wargumbyx 4 месяца назад
in any rts where a>b>c>d you play as a. modern games are imbalanced on purpose because it is easier to make things imbalanced in a new way each patch than to try to balance a game where new content is still coming out (let alone balance it at all) so the easiest thing to do is play what is most broken atm
@ourcade8265
@ourcade8265 4 месяца назад
The only counter: do it yourself lol
@dankchill
@dankchill 4 месяца назад
"This Japanese Combo Leaves Me Genuinely Speechless" *produces speech*
@RisitasKEKW
@RisitasKEKW 4 месяца назад
What a name: du du 💩 💩
@adminnvbs9166
@adminnvbs9166 4 месяца назад
You have to beat the Japanese in feudal age. If you let the game get to castle you have lost already.
@codiserville593
@codiserville593 4 месяца назад
That's discouraging to hear haha but I know a bit of how you mean. So then that means you gotta be attacking in under ten - nine minutes
@VanGoHAF
@VanGoHAF 3 месяца назад
Fully upgraded OOTD dominates Japan
@KaZuYoO908
@KaZuYoO908 2 месяца назад
is japan actually good?
@stevenedwards8073
@stevenedwards8073 4 месяца назад
Spear nob?
@justinjones3326
@justinjones3326 4 месяца назад
spear landsknek? maybe counters it
@smbintegrated4465
@smbintegrated4465 4 месяца назад
Mounted samurai are ridiculous. Even with Camels they smoke me i dont understand.
@fabianmorgenstern7778
@fabianmorgenstern7778 3 месяца назад
the same gay xD
@aaronsevivas9264
@aaronsevivas9264 4 месяца назад
Really escalated when Drongo said "He played against 'The same gay'" at about 19:20. Drongo, you gotta be nice buddy. Besides there is nothing wrong with being gay. He probably liked your playstyle. Thought you went hard on him.
@amirTehrani1994
@amirTehrani1994 4 месяца назад
Yooooooooooo
@muratparlak7601
@muratparlak7601 4 месяца назад
English just sent too many troops to meat Grinder 😨
@codiserville593
@codiserville593 4 месяца назад
Oh man, gross
@sholtzi2593
@sholtzi2593 4 месяца назад
The combo wasn't really that strong, it was just a numbers game. By 17min Japanese had double the army size, and it literally stayed that way for the rest of the game.
@VladimirLenine1917
@VladimirLenine1917 4 месяца назад
Day 22 of asking drongo for a 1v1
@Blender3DProjects
@Blender3DProjects 4 месяца назад
FFA Pleaaase, every 1v1 is a disappointment compared to FFA when I click :(
@vicarious_gaming
@vicarious_gaming 4 месяца назад
no ffa is boring af
@chrisnewtownnsw
@chrisnewtownnsw 4 месяца назад
Yeah I had to leave aoe4 until they fix ona b. The knights don’t counter them as they should.
@mnmmnmm
@mnmmnmm 4 месяца назад
onnabugeisha aren't even op lmao, knights do a great job at countering them
@chrisnewtownnsw
@chrisnewtownnsw 4 месяца назад
@@mnmmnmm nah RU-vid search onna bugeisha aoe4. You'll see simulated fights between o-b vs knights and they slaughter the knights
@iLightSoundGeometry
@iLightSoundGeometry 4 месяца назад
try 2000
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