This Japanese Combo Leaves Me Genuinely Speechless 

this can easily be beaten by an early surrender

I LOVE THAT THE 1v1 CONTENT IS BACK

This felt like a throw from Miriam. This comp seems pretty vulnerable to maa/spear/archer. The army value was almost twice as much for the Japanese player, that is what caused the steam roll He was heavily outnumbered and was way over extended. Just felt like he needed to chill in his base and let the 2 TC cook some more

As a JP main, thanks for this.. this Strat is immediately going into my tool box.

I think the counter here was simple. make units. Myriad despite having a 30 villager lead just didn't seem to be making enough. A lot of it had to do with rallying them out piecemeal and losing them, but still. Make units + get a keep, to then get network of citadels. At that point men-at-arms + crossbow would have shredded

As an English main, I can confirm that those mounted samurai are nearly unstoppable. Mounted samurai just flatten their counters. Like Drongo mentioned, the only thing to do is get up to gun powered units but it’s easier said than done. I’ve only pulled it off once.

"It's not a question of if, it's a question of... Sorry, it's not a question of when, it's a question of... " - WHAT!? :D

Mounted Samurai + Onna Bugeisha is a strong combo for a while, but it is far from being broken and unbeatable. In this game Japanese player had almost double army value of the opponent by the moment of the fight because they stayed on 1 TC, intercepted a lot of reinforcements and saved on Stables. On equal resources Spearmen + Longbowmen will beat this. Later on Spearmen + MAAs + Mangonels, optionally with Crossbowmen depending on the percentage of Mounted Samurai. Or just mass Knights, generally any mixed composition can be countered by massing one unit from this composition. Chinese in particular can also keep up with Yorishiro production bonus using Imperial Officials if they want to compete in tempo.

Randy can solve this problem :D

MMA to hold the mounted samurai, lansknechts clump with the archers to hold the onna-bugeishas

Onna Bugeisha can't melt english MAA since they have 8 melee armor. They would do only 2 damage a pop... MAA + xbow was the right call, but he didn't have the mass

Love it when you referencing HON

As a Rus player I’d go knights and streltsy to try and counter this

More 1v1 and 2v2 please!

Juggernaut hell yeah from Dota 2

This jp tech has been an amazing addition to my toolbox

I do this combo as a Japanese player, but top it off with the Nehan conversion buff, which makes the ona bugeisha even faster. The counter which I typically loose to is siege and gunpowder units. Ottomans are the worst D:

So nice to see more Japanese games.

Army pop was 75 to 50 and the Du Du was using high-DPS units so the pop diff mattered even more. If Myriad hadn't trickled-in reinforcements earlier and hadn't floated over 1000 wood for like 5 minutes, army pops would have been more even and MAA+spear+xbow actually does decent against MSamurai+OB. Myriad also came forward into the mid-map before the last battle, which put him at a disadvantage because Du Du's army is much faster and can force a fight

THERE IS A DINOSAUR IN RED'S STARTING BASE!

as chineese i have tried mass grenadier against this, its good, BUT zhuxi with their +1 range and 15% damage bonus really melt infantry and knight mobs, Support with some springs with rollertrigger and that was pretty good. Good dmg vs units and vs buildings too. Works in gold league i guess XD

Lantsneck definitely the best counter to this if you have access to it. Otherwise, archer and crossbow + walls should do it.

Won 5 games in a row last night in 2v2, my teammate using only royal knights and me using only ona-bugeisha, worked like a charm even against higher ranked opponents.

The only thing that comes to my mind that could beat this is knights and in the back line either archer to snipe buggatis or xbows to snipe samurai

walls ? like a small defensive village around production like gold and farm

Honestly I feel like if Myriad had rallied close to base way, WAY earlier and then sent spears/(cross)bows in groups of 6-7+, he would have just overwhelmed DuDu way before he could get a critical mass, let alone teched up to castle. Sending in stuff 1 at a time absolutely cost him the game.

Good stuff

landsneckt wreck it.

Maybe mass archers spears? Idk

Baldequins and a castle 😂

spear landsknek? maybe counters it

What if you go knights and archers mixed with crossbiws?

Archers/spearmen and some english MAA.

I think with Ayubids you go Camel Lancers and mass archers

Mass Knights?

Landschnek and HRE maa (with heavy maces) would rinse this army comp with equal army value

in any rts where a>b>c>d you play as a. modern games are imbalanced on purpose because it is easier to make things imbalanced in a new way each patch than to try to balance a game where new content is still coming out (let alone balance it at all) so the easiest thing to do is play what is most broken atm

Randy only. Let’s go.

MMA + Pykes ? + 1 mangonel

Drongo, Outback Octagon 3 👀 whens it coming 👀

im no conq but maybe like you said watch your troop number and play in your base more than in mid but yeah tough combo

TBF Myriad made a big mistake not having full melee armor upgrades against mass bugeisha. Extra 1 armor makes a huge difference against them. The answer to this comp might be knight + spear. Knights beat bugeisha on equal cost and spears helps them trade better against mounted samurai.

As Chinese, mass spears + nest of bees?

All your base are belong to us… 2001 song. 1991 game translation.

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English just sent too many troops to meat Grinder 😨

The only counter: do it yourself lol

Anything with a decent amount of melee armour handles onna bugeisha, so maa, particularly English maa should excel against them. Imo this is not an op combo. Red just made a myriad of mistakes

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spears + landSHREKT. thats the answer. Just play HRE xD

Spear nob?

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Do more ffa

"This Japanese Combo Leaves Me Genuinely Speechless" *produces speech*

Dorongo:"this combo is unbeatable" Meanwhile, Camel Archers(needs micro), camel lancers, camel riders(decent), desert riders(oh boy): excuse me?

Light infantry heavy cavalry is an obnoxious damage class combo, as you have few real overlapping counters. The best bet I can see is to have a tanky front line and bring counters for the heavy cavalry. Since generally damage is good against lightly armored units even without counter modifiers, but you aren't going to cost effectively trade with sams without anti-samurai units. Without tanky units to block off the Onna Bugeisha (Who would only do 2 damage to armor clad men at arms,) they are going to shred, as there are few survivable light units. So in a way, all fast attacking good general damage units sort of counter light, as they are awful against highly elevated armor. Musofadi warriors I remember when they had good base attack, as their attack speed was also pretty fast from what I remember.... Remember back when they got spammed? They were an anti heavy unit that had that dangerous combo of swing speed and damage, so they hit that natural "But we hit light too" band of attack speed. I feel like HRE, Ayu/Abba, and byzantines also have ways of hard countering this. Abbasid camels counter both JP unit types here, which is honestly really interesting.

What a name: du du 💩 💩

Mounted samurai are ridiculous. Even with Camels they smoke me i dont understand.

You have to beat the Japanese in feudal age. If you let the game get to castle you have lost already.

Yooooooooooo

Really escalated when Drongo said "He played against 'The same gay'" at about 19:20. Drongo, you gotta be nice buddy. Besides there is nothing wrong with being gay. He probably liked your playstyle. Thought you went hard on him.

the same gay xD

Oh man, gross

Day 22 of asking drongo for a 1v1

FFA Pleaaase, every 1v1 is a disappointment compared to FFA when I click :(

The combo wasn't really that strong, it was just a numbers game. By 17min Japanese had double the army size, and it literally stayed that way for the rest of the game.

Yeah I had to leave aoe4 until they fix ona b. The knights don’t counter them as they should.

try 2000