This Language Is Not As Simple As You Think! - Chants of Sennaar 

Another thing is they don't ask questions, all they say are statements

They are really positive people.

one other noticeable fact is that their words for people (alchemist, monster, brother) are all pictograms.

​@@cheeseninja1115Like all words in all languages in this game.

@@Quintinohthree not all of them!

Live comment reaction:

i don’t get it, what was it supposed to mean?

​@@lux5164maybe it's a critique on a reaction content? (sniperwolf situation)

​@@lux5164it was funny. Not expected

@@lux5164 zoomer speak for unexpected

ikr everyone loved it

I love chants of sennnaar😃😃😃

This is exactly what I said when it saw this video in my notifs

Hell yea!

I love duolingo

In the warrior lore they receive the call from the bards to defend against the monsters. It’s implied the warriors regarded the devotees as more monsters arriving, as shown in their art.

​@@panampace Apologies, I must have missed that.

I disagree @@panampace . The order of the mural implies that they were called to the tower, met the bards, and then built the fortress and started guarding against the impure. Additonally, I think that there has only ever been one monster: an alchemist caught in a lab accident.

I don't think it's that deep. The warriors seem to use the term "Impure" for others who do not follow their call or create music. As they lack a glyph for "Monster" as the Alchemists have, "Impure" is the best fit. The same thing happened when he translated between Alchemist and Devotee. The Alchemist said he would "Create a formula" and the best translation was "Make a potion". You effectively have to ignore the connotations of some words and just look at their basic meanings when exact translations aren't available.

@@pretzelbomb6105 Well, yeah that sounds better now that you mentioned it. Guess I just like to overcomplicate stuff.

@@pretzelbomb6105 > You effectively have to ignore the connotations of some words and just look at their basic meanings when exact translations aren't available. Just like real life, huh!

Reminds me of the Christian missionaries coming into my island centuries ago. We do not have a word for "sheep/lamb" since there are none here, so the missionaries use the word "pig" as a subtitute because pigs were (and still are) highly valued in the island society. The pig of God.

@@pretzelbomb6105No I really think it is that deep. The different cultures have entirely different theories about what’s going on. It’s kinda the whole lore to the game. Their call *is* from the bards, *to* push back the monsters, which they interpreted the devotees as too.

First year in material engineering, they are like 5x more understandable then the untenable shit i been putting up with

I believe that's the point. You are never asked a question by an Alchemist, even when it seems you should have been. Instead, every statement is made like an assertion of fact and it is left to the recipient to confirm or deny it. Being a society clearly based on scientific rigor, it then stands that their concepts of "statement" and "question" are functionally one thing. Basically, they don't ask questions because every single thing they say is already a question.

@@pretzelbomb6105 this is wildly profound actually, love that the game just lets you figure this out from their sentence structures alone

​@@pretzelbomb6105like every sentence is for example "apples grow on trees, right?"

​@@omahabrowneyes To an extent, yes. English Alice- "Do apples grow in the ground?" Bob- "No, apples grow on trees." Alice- "Apples grow on trees, got it." Alchemist Alice- "Apples grow in the ground." Bob- "Apples do not grow in the ground. Apples grow on trees." Alice- "Apples grow on trees."

I want to believe the warriors thought they were going to beat back some devotee mob since devotees and monsters were "impures", only to encounter a mutant in the dark.

​@@FeyTheBin Taking into account how chill they are around the caged monster when you see them in the lab, and the complete lack of blood or other signs of a struggle in the mines, there's a serious posibility they thought it was just a crazed dude, and one seriously onesided curbstomping later they still think the monster's just some crazed dude. (Which actually isn't even that far off. He's the lab 3 scientist, who for some reason decided to drink his faery formula instead of turning it into a key, and turned into that.) Also fun fact: while the warriors seem to have an extremely polarized worldview, distinguishing only between people who play instruments, people who don't play instruments but are still tollerable (scientists and other warriors) and people they don't tollerate (literally everyone else). They still manage to be some of the chillest soldiers in any videogame ever. I mean, think about it. You NEVER actually see them kill or injure anyone. The monster seems fine after they capture it, hell they even cover it so it won't get hurt by the light. And even their word for fighting actually just translates to "push/expell", plus they fully embrace the devotees as soon as they learn how to comunicate and realize they can play instruments, plus they're chill with the scientists by default, so their standards certainly aren't that high. I mean at worst you can say its kind of implied they kill you if they catch you. But the animation is the same as the devotee just changing the shadow and when the (SPOILERS) do kill you in the last levels its a completely different animation so its way more likely they just beat you and throw you out. For a culture all about being a warrior... they're more like riot cops at worst. Their best weapon is literally just a really big closed door.

My theory is when scientist in lab 3 opened the door upstairs and saw what was going on there. He was shocked and closed the door again and went mad somehow.

even though you can't interact with those barrels

Yeah afaik you never help the guy get his barrels

poor guy :(

​@@panampacelet the guy have his 2 barrels!

I would buy DLC just to get that beautiful man his 2 barrels.

I feel this

Duolingo could learn from this game.

His name is Duo

When intention is lost in translation, lol

we are linking languages with those text message things tho

I was going to make my third root level comment twelve minutes in about how it looks like classical alchemy.

No, we’re not talking about our first floor friends we were talking about the monster that lives right above your so-called chosen ones because they think they live at the top so they wouldn’t explore far enough to reach the monster

love it when tyler shows us his slime ❤❤

@@Naniblocks that's it, I'm sending you to Dave

@@demetriajones3231NOOOOO NOT DAVE HIMSELF

Slime cam most exciting part

If translating in this game seems fun, you could try problems from IOL (or rather ILO - international linguistic olympiad) or other linguistic olympiad. I hope this comment won't get censored by this, but here you can see sample problems: ioling.org/booklets/samples.en.pdf

The big difference being that those have units top left and work their way in usual reading direction through tens, hundreds and thousands.

@@Quintinohthree Oh of course, the people who made the game took effort to make it their own, but i noticed the similarities immediately.

The bard’s language feels kinda like a play to me. Like the line through is the backdrop and the words are like actions or props.

You don't have to wait!

This one was easier unfortunately, grammar is even more english-like than the other languages

@@alexzgreat133 you have a good point which ive also mentioned but i think the symbols are harder

@@edizlikese3132 i think in-game the language is harder because of the way the place is structured, and how the people act. science is tough!

I agree strongly

That's what the alchemists meant, but what the warriors hear is "impure," which we previously saw used for outsiders/the abbey people.

I may or may not be misremembering what was depicted in the warriors' floor, but it seems that the warriors use the same word for both devotees and actual monsters, which is... a bit concerning, but as long as the meaning gets across fine, I suppose.

@@tcxd1164Yeah, the warriors had a statue depicting the devotees as monsters.

@@tcxd1164it’s ok they cleared up that mess when Tyler did the previous conversations

The monsters are between the bard and alchemist floors, which isn't an area the warriors can reach as the bards tell the warriors to stay out of their place. Thee warriors themselves really like music, so they treat the bards above them as chosen ones for bringing music to them (very infrequently, in all likelihood), likely shooing away the devotees that later arrived below on the bards' behalf (their civilization's sworn duty) because the bards are classist and don't like working class plebs. All the while not realizing the devotees have musicians too. Since the bards are holy to the warriors, what the bards dislike are the impure and became demonized, as opposed to the alchemists who probably don't even know about the religious folk all the way down and are purely concerned about the literal xenomorphs stalking their mine shafts. That's my impression of the string of tragic miscommunications that could've ensued, anyway. The trouble with cross-language communication is that one culture's language will often have a bunch of words for things another culture doesn't even think about existing, either due to lack of exposure in the first place or them simply viewing the world from a different perspective.

Wow called it

good luck

How are you still alive?

TYLER IS NOT THE RIZZLER😤😤💀💀💀💀🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢

Funnily, I think the game is often too guiding with the languages but on the other hand sometimes needs you to go to/do some very specific place/thing and if you miss it (like Tyler with the mine cart) it can be pretty frustrating. Luckily didn't happen to me too often. Edit: And funnily enough, it seems that Tyler also missed the stairs in the silver mine. Those two are exactly the ones I took a while to find.

@@1vader Yes, and that. It took me a while to form the habit of spamming middle mouse button to see what I can interact with.

kinda

no the final floor is actualy the easiest one in the game

I know, but I won't spoil

Somehow it does, and then it's easy as fuck.